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Street-level light rail cheaper than monorail or elevated LRT

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Street-level light rail cheaper than monorail or elevated LRT

The infrastructure cost for street-level light rail vehicles (or new generation trams) is much lower than the monorail and elevated light rail transit options put forward in the revised transport masterplan for Penang.

From what I gather, these are the infrastructure costs for the various urban rail options:

Street-level light rail: RM40m/km
Monorail: RM170m/km
Elevated LRT: RM220m/km

So the question is, why is the project delivery partner going for monorail and elevated LRT when the original transport masterplan consultant (Halcrow) had recommended trams and bus rapid transit? Why the change?
In fact, the original tram routes proposed by Halcrow have now been inexplicably reduced to a miserable 2km stretch (with just six stops) in inner city George Town that appears targeted at tourists.

Bear in mind that that new generation street-level light rail vehicles can take as many passengers as an elevated LRT system at less that one fifth the infrastructure cost. And although these light rail vehicles run at street level, they can go up on ramps at difficult or congested stretches (see video above).

For the 17.5km Komtar-Airport elevated LRT route, the cost works out to RM220m/km x 17.5km = RM3.85bn. Add to that ancilliary infrastructure costs, and you arrive at the RM4.5bn figure mentioned in press reports last year.

But if we had street-level light rail vehicles or a new generation tram system, we would reap massive savings in infrastructure costs which could then be used for an expanded and more flexible rail and bus rapid transit network (including on the mainland) instead of a rigid and inflexible elevated LRT and monorail system focused mainly on the island.

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So why are they going for the more expensive options?

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Utopia
Utopia
24 Apr 2016 11.31am

Support re-route PG LRT away from 3 schools in Sg Nibong Penang that have over 4k of students to ensure a tranquil learning environment in the schools:

https://www.facebook.com/3MinutesOfTranquility/info?tab=page_info

http://www.chinapress.com.my/20160421/支持輕快鐵改道避開學校-公眾可授權3校提訴求/

Light Rail Fails
23 Apr 2016 7.25am

Are you sure? #lightrailfails

Eric
Eric
20 Apr 2016 8.55am

I believe Anil were not a penang resident. A land system on Penang island? This is totally … hell. Penang already very congested in the traffic and there are not enough space for road. Imagine that you want to connect Komtar with Gurney, unless you want demolish certain building, your rail planner either go through penang road or burma road. These 2 road are about 3-4 single direction lane but even so it alway having traffic jam. If you going to build a land system, it would take up at least 2 Lane for the rail and what about when… Read more »

Lapala
Lapala
22 Apr 2016 9.41pm
Reply to  Anil Netto

Go underground save ground space for pedestrians.

glissantia
glissantia
18 Apr 2016 2.30pm

I suppose BRT sounded good at the time of elections. Now, we have to think of “political” funding, generous foreign donors and offshore accounts. BRT is not promising in that sense. At most, you lay out an extra lane along the route, and each bus – even the best – may cost max. RM 250,000.

Tua Pai Kiah
Tua Pai Kiah
14 Apr 2016 2.31pm

Anil
This Sat 16 April 2016, 3.30pm-5.30pm Dialogue Session on Penang Transport Plan (Laluan LRT di Bayan Baru) at Level 4 Sunshine Square Auditorium organised by MP Sim Tze Tzin.
See you there.

roy
roy
15 Apr 2016 2.25pm
Reply to  Tua Pai Kiah

A good place and time for Anil and his ardent readers to meet.

Jetty
Jetty
17 Apr 2016 12.32am
Reply to  roy

http://www.penang-traveltips.com/bayan-lepas-lrt.htm

No LRT to Queensbay Mall or to Bayan Baru Market/Sunshine Square, so people will not find LRT convenient!

For sure Kwang Hwa Primary School supporters near Sg Nibong have strongly object to the set up of a station. Reason noise pollution and safety of pillars only 6 metres away.

Jetty
Jetty
17 Apr 2016 12.37am
Reply to  roy

NO to LRT Penang from Kwang Has Primary School board.

http://www.kwongwah.com.my/?p=126171

Alex Yap Shaw Liang
Alex Yap Shaw Liang
14 Apr 2016 10.29am

One consideration would be space for surface rail. And if ee consider the properties that may need to be demolished to build a surface rail it may actually be quite high. If we build it on the road it may make our roads even more congested.

bumi non malay
14 Apr 2016 6.08am

Good thing don’t come cheap, Cheap things don’t come good….. BUT Under UMNO-BN Administration Malaysia they are all EXPENSIVE AND POOR QUALITY and continue the IDEOLOGY of 1% Malay Holading the Equity & Wealth of 99% of Malays….. And you Expect things to improve when every corruption income is mover overseas with Bank Negara Approval …Lets face it Non-UMNO state are performing better….if like PAS wants to bed with UMNO & have hudud…then that state also like UMNO states….ABU ..UBAH Pecat PBB-Adenan-Taib from Sarawak!!…how about LRT or MRT in Sabah-Sarawak too??

gk ong
gk ong
18 Apr 2016 12.21pm
Reply to  bumi non malay

Like that who will want Gerakan to come back?

kaycee
kaycee
14 Apr 2016 4.42am

Besides taking up more land LRT or Mono Rail compete with traffic in congested Penang. Underground MRT although expensive but worth it over the long run. If Federal government not prepared to fund it then LGE should fight for private funding.

Oon Chooi Huat
Oon Chooi Huat
13 Apr 2016 7.55pm

Anil, space constraint esp in Penang!

David Loman
David Loman
13 Apr 2016 5.30pm

Why not go Lawatan Sambil Belajar at Singapore (don’t worry about losing Bin Chui) to learn from their MRT and LRT experience? Singapore has limited land space but still able to have a good MRT/LRT network.

http://www.thesundaily.my/node/359833

Ravi123
Ravi123
14 Apr 2016 4.36pm
Reply to  David Loman

Anil can employ Tunglang to visit SingLand and return with a report for anilnetto.comon best transport option for Penang; and hopefully he returns with a lion roar and lose his phobia for the cats.

zoro
zoro
14 Apr 2016 8.18pm
Reply to  Ravi123

no need to employ him. he will do all means. to discredit his cm. fast the cm goes away better his heath. now no time for kopi or or sg pinang or and belum valley.

Gwynn Jenkins
Gwynn Jenkins
13 Apr 2016 3.08pm

when fees work on a %, the cheaper option is not so desirable

Cheong Kian Kok
Cheong Kian Kok
13 Apr 2016 3.36pm

But land expensive

james k
james k
13 Apr 2016 9.10pm
Reply to  Anil Netto

Not really, they still have much smaller footprints compared to street level rail. It would be possible to be done on mainland but not on land-starved Penang island. Ideally I support a street level system but it would be almost physically impossible to be implemented on the island. Imagine, where would one find space for street-level rail from Komtar to, say Gurney Drive? Through Kelawai Road? Northam Road? Burma Road? Already congested enough. What about Air Itam and Paya Terubong? However I hope we can at least put in suggestions through state gov official site to campaign for street-level rail… Read more »

zoro
zoro
13 Apr 2016 9.13pm
Reply to  Anil Netto

over big longkangs. streams and dual carriageway road?

Rscrugby
Rscrugby
13 Apr 2016 2.45pm

Because kapcais in Asia will block their way. Everybody in cars, trucks and buses have to make way for kapcais. The trams will too. In Europe and Melbourne ok.

Richard Loh
13 Apr 2016 1.22pm

SPACE, do we have enough space on street level? More trees have to be removed, land acquisition, more relocation etc?

zoro
zoro
13 Apr 2016 9.21pm
Reply to  Anil Netto

no problems as all the trees will be deflected by the bridge concrete structure. but trams overhead wires will be affected by trees. what about storms and rain causing trees to fell one overhead wires? habis miss flight, parents, husband, wife, children and gfs

rajraman666
rajraman666
13 Apr 2016 1.22pm

Anil
You can tell millions times but the more expensive is their choice.More expensive more ….you can decipher my meaning.
Above ground or elevated one need land for structure and under the structure it’s waste of space but some people’s don’t agree.

rajraman. I closed my cased without further defence.

zoro
zoro
13 Apr 2016 10.27pm
Reply to  rajraman666

milions times. of course deity gets millions in discount but what about billions times when 1 mbd is involved. of course we get cheap items in pasar malam. any further discount if sourced from pasar malam trader? otherwise missed opportunity. why buy one that depends on driver. china is ahead in drones which is automatic wo dtiver. elevated trains do not required and driver on trains. further if one tram is delayed, when it arrives 3 or 3 trams of the same route arrives at the same time. the first tram will be packed like sardines and the second and… Read more »

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