Sia Boey: ‘Do we want another concrete jungle?’

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Comments made at the launch of the heritage and arts district at Sia Boey on 6 September 2015. How times have changed.

“…the heritage shophouses will be retained, where ever they could be, we will make sure that they will also be able to contribute to a land and air of authenticity, and of course, the ambience and atmosphere necessary to signify that this is a Penang heritage and arts district.”


You can see the full report of the launch here.

But now, there are plans for a huge transport hub at Sia Boey

Over the weekend, a relative of mine from Singapore spent a few days in Penang. He had visited Penang occasionally over the years since 1954, and Penang holds special memories for him as he held a wedding reception here many moons ago.

He was disturbed by what he saw during his latest visit and upon his return, he sent me a text message: “Penang has lost its charm. It is like a concrete jungle.”

I messaged him back: “What to do… that’s the battle we are fighting here.”

“The battle has been lost… too late,” he responded.

I wrote back: “If we don’t do anything, it will get a lot worse.”

His wise parting words: “I agree, but you must get the support and (use) the right channel. Good luck… oh ya, you need plenty of good luck.”

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Sora Zhen

many people complained when the state government started the Spice project.
same thing is happening now.
but we believe such projects are beneficial to penang people.
so do not be bothered by the pf accusations.

David Loman

The Solar PV System at sPICE Aquatic Centre saves RM40k in electricity bill each month.
http://www.chinapress.com.my/20160823/spice水上運動中心-太陽能發電月省4萬/

tunglang

Immature = insecurity of self, egoistic 24/7/365 in vanity, narcissism (esp in politics), low self-esteem in the absence of outside social adoration or in disputes, social-skill deficit, low or zero EQ, quick to anger or fury, hunger for massive social approval or political thumbs up, if in a group = have no individualistic thinking but act with blind herd mentality, actions tuned to overt-idolism or worshipping of whatever held in venerability (remember Davidian Cult?), defensive drowned in desperation without seeing any light of option (for the better), constant euphoria that sleeps in normal day time & erupts at a moment… Read more »

tunglang

The next time when any entity sings: “Do we want another concrete jungle?” better run a mile away!
The next time when there are GE ceramahs & you still hear that same song, throw rotten eggs.
The next time when you read a political newsletter that brandishes that same phrase headline, cut it out & keep it for future “Didn’t you said so” evidence.
The new time I hear another “Do we want another concrete jungle?”, my instant reply is “Yes, You Desperately Do”

David Loman

A lot of tension among certain readers on Sia Boey issue.
To release tension, please cheer for mixed doubles Chan Peng Soon-Goh Liu Ying who will be in the badminton mixed finals at the Rio Olympics.

Live screening of the match at :
Time : 1030 pm
Date : Wednesday, Aug 17, 2016
Place : Festive Square, Gurney Paragon Mall, Penang

David Loman

Sad to note the choice of words used by the Malay newspaper in their headlines that belittling the silver medal achievement of our mixed double pair:

Kosmo! : Peng Soon-Liu Ying hampakan jutaan rakyat Malaysia.
Berita Harian: Bergu Campuran Sekadar Raih Perak

Teh

Azizul sekadar pingat gangsa despite talking big before the Olympics to get Gold.

zoro

look at tun lang releasing his frusco.plenty to bark and howl at the cat. he only hide here and too scare to confront his nemises.

tunglang

Belum Rainforest free trip to meet the bunians waiting for you.
Kay bo?

zoro

better for you to be there … less pollution. and rubbish here

tunglang

This confirms a Kay Bo behind a mask!

zoro

Confirms persecutor and north Korea Kim trying to silence those with different views

zoro

Confirm the parrot is repeating over and over. … scared of CAT

tunglang

This confirms a Kay Bo behind a mask!

Mannan Thalapathi

Anil
Don’r over work yourself. Suggest you go visit China and come back with fresh perspective of UNESCO nature vs man-made conflicts.
See this clip and then book a flight there :

We thank you for your many interesting thought provoking articles.

tunglang

Thank you for sharing the video: Stunning China (UNESCO World Heritage Sites of Guilin and Yangshuo in China) No plastics, no high rise joss-sticks condos, no need for overt bin-chui make-over. Just plain old world charm China that is an envied Green Sanctuary even to the Avatars. When the world erupts into another world war due to human insanity of ego, fanatism, greed & unchecked materialism, this place called Guilin & Yangshuo will survive thro the seasons with their own food security. And even afford roast duck & chicken rice & Guilin Mineral Rich Water. 28th Floor Komtar Tower must… Read more »

Hokkien Digimon

Why the nature lovers do not support Tiger Park for the hills of Penang island? Firstly we get to save our national icon to roam and breed freely in such habitat. Secondly we get to draw tourists to earn halal revenues for the state. Thirdly and most favourable supporting factor will be that no developer can illegally clear the hills as the tigers can eat them alive to safeguard the environment!

tunglang

National Parks with free roaming tigers are different from any jungle. Penang island has just this much limited jungle to realistically support tigers. Do you want the farmers & orchard owners be mauled by man-eaters.
Be realistic & not speak for the sake of countering.
If you want real tigers in Penang Island, go see one in Pantai Kerachut. It is a Saka Harimau (Tiger Spirit). You may see its paw prints on the beach.

zoro

but you can many small tigers in penang which pg lang call CATs. unfortunately one is trying to terminate all the CATs. so even there is no hope for tigers in penang. even in belum valley you dont see cats or tigers but monkeys, monyets and ma lau the 3Ms. they are up to mischief

zoro

you onky in tv or mivies. lijiang snd daki have changed. lijiang charge 150 fir 3 days entry. u see backbackers and guest houses in og but lijiang all coffee house, wong feu hoong inns and shops. more money making place. bur the houses are creatively design unless slums in pg.you only knows how to tell a man and his pan. a tricycle wifh volumous load of polyform or plastic material. this happpen all over china. CATs you want to go? copy cats.

Shun Feng

Mannan offers constructive feedback, makes more sense than those irrelevant writings of tunglang.

Lai Huat

It is good for Penang people to travel overseas, then give good feedback to the state government.
No point reading The Star, and criticise state government unfairly.
Plenty to learn from Singaore, just one hour flight away.
For a start, please plant more trees and add more greenery to the Penang island. Learn from Singapore the type of trees to plant, and how to maintain them in good health.

Moh Wah Kong

There is a guy in Penang changing colour steadily from neutral to Bn blue. This is an intelligent move. congratulations, and keep it up. Somewhere a badge of entrance to rich and famous is waiting for you.

zoro

no barking and howling over a smooth long drive over pg bridge and highway to enjoy his favourite hideaway. without highway driving in trunk roads is stressful and pain in the ?ss. but not highways in my pg backward. what a shier.

tunglang

Furor over Penang Forum letter to Unesco unjustified http://www.themalaymailonline.com/what-you-think/article/furor-over-penang-forum-letter-to-unesco-unjustified-sm-mohamed-idris AUGUST 16 — Much furor has been created over Penang Forum’s letter to Unesco requesting for an advisory mission and an impact assessment of the proposed Penang Transport Master Plan and how it might affect the Outstanding Universal Value of Penang’s World Heritage property. NGOs have been accused of putting Penang’s world heritage status at risk and back stabbing the Penang state. Are these accusations justified? Under the Operational Guidelines Clause 172, the World Heritage Committee invites the States Parties to the Convention to INFORM the Committee, through the Secretariat, of… Read more »

tunglang

Post Laju, pls wait for an impending approval (pending my T&C) of my secret letter to Paris by venerable politician @ 28th Flr Komtar Tower.
Your political understanding is greatly appreciated.
Cheers Kopi-O kau kau.

Shun Feng

MCA can sponsor you DHL.

tunglang

You have nothing better & constructive to say?
Never mind if it doesn’t makes sense except to ring a happy song in your Deity!
C’mon, you can do better than this from your political master.

zoro

Tun lang always have plenty to say. He is very CONSTRUCTIVE like DEVELOPER. So a developer masking behind a rubber like Gelakan Dr Saw chye once quoted.

tunglang

Today, I want to send a secret letter to Paris.
Must I submit this private secret letter to 28th Komtar Tower for intrusive approval by a venerable politician?

tunglang

All the hoo-ha over one single letter — James K. AUG 15 — I must admit that I am deeply concerned by the overblown reaction of the Penang State Government and Georgetown World Heritage Incorporated (GTWHI) recently over the issue of just a single letter. The letter was written earlier this year by Penang Forum (a Penang-based NGO) to the UNESCO World Heritage Centre regarding concerns that physical developments, policies and a transport masterplan that may harm the heritage value of Georgetown. The overblown reaction by the state government raises a few serious questions: 1. Is writing a letter and… Read more »

Teh

The Penang State Government has identified a 9.2 acres piece of PDC and state land situated off Gat Lebuh McCallum and Lebuhraya Tun Dr Lim Chong Eu, a mere 500 metres away from the original proposed site in Asia Boey. With a much larger land area without the limitations of existing buildings and structures, the new site provides greater flexibility and new possibilities for the Penang Arts District. The new site can cater to the single largest collection of art galleries and cultural museums, creative boutiques, arts schools and workshops in Malaysia. We would of course not forget to populate… Read more »

zoro

pf wants a transport hub far from heritage area. this means you pay more and take longer time. so pf wants to defeat the purpose of transport hub. why all the detour and changing over. go right to the point. yes only driving cars cann do ir

tunglang

“I Want To Believe” BUT…

zoro

Tun lang wants the transport hub beside pg airport to to compete with the noise pollution there. A Trinity of 3 in 1. Land, sea and air.

tunglang

PKR leader describes those who slam Penang Forum as ‘immature’ https://www.malaysiakini.com/news/352462 While DAP leaders are united in whacking Penang Forum for a disparaging letter sent to Unesco World Heritage Centre in Paris, a PKR member has thrown his support behind Lim Mah Hui, the NGO’s representative. PKR Tanjong chief Ng Chek Siang expressed support for Penang Forum’s stance in protecting Penang from overdevelopment at the cost of risking the state’s Unesco World Heritage Site Status. “We also find it rather immature that some people label Penang Forum and its steering committee as being backstabbers for writing to Unesco as a… Read more »

Shun Feng

PKR is useless in Penang.

tunglang

Then all of Pakatan Rakyat in Penang is USELESS, wrong?
Pls look up the BM dictionary for the word: pakatan.
Oh, how about adding this useless thing to Goergie Bush’s “If you’re not with us, you’re against us”
Introducing a politically arrogant phrase within the walls of politically screwed-within PR:
“If you’re not with us, you’re against us, you’re useless”

zoro

heritsge zone is already concrete jungle. all buildings. where are the green parks? all chinatown is concrete jungle. many old buildings have been neglect by owners. let it rot..singland come to the rescue like in melaka they beautify the building and draw in crowds other old buildings draw in drug addicts. why not pf and cohorts buy over the old properties?

umno dedak tastes good

if Sia Boey transport hub is wrong in the first place, how about komtar ? prangin mall ? first avenue ? arent these modern ‘monstrosities’ right beside UNESCO site wrong too ? why no noise when komtar was built in the 70s ? what are you going to do about these buildings now ? demolish them ? if a tram is considered more practical, why KL, Singapore, Bangkok and Tokyo hadn’t adopted it ? would anyone want a slow moving coach with limited capacity, having to share the road with millions of cars and kapcais ? PF keeps on barking… Read more »

zoro

That is what you call master plan by international planner? Anyone knows that transportation is essential in Vietnam and thailand it needs to run north south direction and not East West direction like Malaya, road and rail was in north south direction and over decades in East West direction
Many times it has been asked why halcrow cost for elevated structure is 80m/km and SRS is 220m/km. Pf never bothers to investigate who’s costing is wrong when it insist halcrow’s cost is the lowest.

umno dedak tastes good

elevated trams ? with pylons, cables & supporting structures built high up too ? why dont just build LRT then ? why the hassle ?
now you are talking about the airport. would tourists exiting from the airport want a slower coach than that at KLIA ?
also, you said a sizeable stretch, implying that another stretch will be build at grade. so the problem of sharing the roads still stands, no ?
c’mon PF. where is your brain ?

umno dedak tastes good

yes, and so is traffic congestion. with a slower, smaller capacity coach all the way south.
if that is PF’s solution, bravo ! as a somewhat ‘enlightened’ NGO, surely you can suggest something more practical.

umno dedak tastes good

as much ? wow, such ‘confidence’. then again, other city authorities dont seem to buy your ‘confidence’, eh macai ?
heard of PPHPD ?
cant wait to see more ‘brilliant’ proposals from so-called PH NGO, who thinks all of Penang is just as dimwitted.

zoro

pf say tram can carry as many psssengers as lrt but different elevated structure. we are not kg people.if a donkey weighs 100kg the elevated structure will be quite the same and the cost cannof be 4 times different. pf does not know what s lrt looks like. how can tram carry almost the same as lrt? lrt can have 4 or 5 cars (wagons) lnked together. pf please show what is the length of pf tram?

tunglang

Why must we choose Fast + Furious Cosmopolitan Lifestyle – travel fast, overtaking fast, beat traffic lights fast, drive in emergency lanes fast (to beat the jam), BUT life is also fast cut short due to this reckless lifestyle.
You have ONE Life, Don’t Cut It Short Too Soon!

umno dedak tastes good

apakah kereta yg awak pandu, tunglang ? suka fast dan furious ?
suka sangat fast dan furious sehingga tembak sana sini. ha-ha-ha !
pergilah makan dedak !
inilah dedak untukmu- dari tuan awak.

zoro

he has almost a well protect car. an armour like car with high seats. he use a 4 wheel drive around the heritage zone. try to be fumny? … the 4w has bull bars

umno dedak tastes good

lets go back to the issue, shall we ? why Sia Boey ? the question should be, why not ?
then where else can you build a transport hub within the centre of George Town ? with centuries of urbanisation, you can see that there isnt much spare space, is there ?
one also needs to consider the central location of the hub. so where else ?
unless if you are proposing Taman Manggis, maybe ?

umno dedak tastes good

why komtar ? where else do you suggest ?
how many people would NOT go to komtar for official business/shopping/transport ?

tunglang

For dedak business in Komtar Tower?
I am assuming.

umno dedak tastes good

jadi awak salah seorang yg suka datang ke komtar utk makan dedak ?
ini cuma anggapan saya ya
pergilah makan dedak, tunglang
inilah dedak kamu – dari tuan kamu.

zoro

he has almost a well protect car. an armour like car with high seats. he use a 4 wheel drive around the heritage zone. try to be fumny? he will ramp like a bull. the 4w has bull bars

tunglang

Are you trying to imply there is more to Taman Manggis controversy?
A slip of tongue, I assume of this troll!

umno dedak tastes good

bukankah tuanmu suka makan manggis ? sampaikan Taman Manggis pun kecoh sana sini ?
kalau bukan Taman Manggis, kat mana ? rumah awak ?
pergilah makan dedak !
inilah dedak anda – dari tuanmu

tunglang

Don’t try harder pusing sini, sana.
What you said speaks volume of your character.
Opportunist troller paid by Komtar Tower?
BTW, how good is your dedak taste. I mean from Komtar?
If I am not wrong, you are a clone of zoro!
Pls try harder here & there & everywhere in anilnetto.com

zoro

Yes a Clone, a CAT, a copy CAT. More nightmares. Better go back to your tang hills. don’t forget your 4w drive and your highway.

tunglang

Komtar Dedak not enough?
So finally admit to being zoro + umno dedak tastes good 2-in-1 combo trollers!
Try harder for 3-in-1 combo!

zoro

We have instant noodles, 3 in 1 coffee mix. Microwave, turbo cooker, bread maker and more. A char keow teow cooking pot.which turn like concrete mix and you just put a stirrer. Where is enough? The world is not enough.

Peter Tan

Ahli politik mudah lupa.

Tan Wee Theng

I feel sad that someone, like in the Star War, has gone over to the dark side. To say that Sia Boey is not within the UNESCO heritage boundary is disingenuous and mere playing with wordings in zoning definition. Perhaps, we need a real Penang-lang to understand the sentiment of Penang-lang after all.

glissantia

Average period for switching to the dark side is about 1 year. Average period for the public catching on is about 3 years. This is true in all countries and all political pretences. Long live cepat kaya.

tunglang

But there are still the fools who still worship such political traders to the hilt!
Perfect, angelic, untainted, cannot-make-mistakes – such are the unquestionable qualities of Absolute Vodka Perfection + Venerable Deity.
Absolute Vodka Fools. Now your turn to knee-jerk, CAT Jerks!

zoro

Same with dark side switch to light side? Otherwise you tell judge no meet for wrong doers?

peter pang

So, real Penang Lang wants the BCF with its Tram, and Congestion charging, and Bad connectivity with the Mainland, and Non Existent connectivity for Teluk Bahang, Tanjong Bungah and Air Itam among others, that will cause Misery and Traffic Chaos in Georgetown ?? That is news to me personally, as a Penang Lang.

Tan Wee Theng

If a hub is a MUST, we should look at the state land at Ferry Terminal. The state owns some barren concrete land there with no real heritage values. Connectivity to Butterworth, Teluk Bahang etc can be solved by ferries. After all, Penang Ferry is for sale and I believe SRS Consortium is a body that guarantee DAPAT LISENSE. I believe Penang State Government can get ferry license through this Consortium as well. Leave Sia Boay alone.

zoro

ask tun lang better with kopi o kau kau. he is an expert. no kopi o kau kau life is difficult to do business. that is why we hear all those bark and howling over garfield, tom, sylester, tom cat and hello kitty all rhe CAT

Perai Also Penang!

Where are the inputs from Penang Forum when SiaBoey plans are put up on display at Komtar Concourse 2 years back? I happened to be there and asked 2 officials there then, and they told me most critics reluctant to put in black n white their suggestions.
If Penang Forum seeks to be the custodian of heritage matter, why little focus on Butterworth or Seberang Prai or elsewhere mainland Penang?

jack

Its not what you want Anil. It’s what will work for the booming population of people moving to penang. Do you realize what other parts of Malaysia is like? Have you realized that population has shot up in penang? That said, traffic control is the most elementary yet focal point for any state government to roll out. Continuing from that point, its basic knowledge to put into action the most efficient transport. Your idea of a tram is the most broken method to solve congestion. Yet you still stand behind it as if it were the best idea. The halcrow… Read more »

zoro

Where will Gomen get money to build? Did halcrow tell how Gomen to print money to implement the plan? Where is the sourcing of funds? Pf can write with BN to apply for heritage status but like a mouse asking putra for $$$ but … bark at UNESCO?
Why not PF raise the money to implement the halcrow’s plan after there are 40 NGOs, pkr and tun lang and helen’s good mate with international connections. Gelakan and amno will be happy with 40 Ngos. Write to UNESCO for funds??

zoro

why developers built castles in the air but people are screaming if developers are throwing $$$? Did they throw money at your face?

tunglang

Show us the popping population growth proof instead of shouting insanity of population growth as the main argument.
Move people rather than move cars.
And move people with the least cost-to-users ratio. Pg is an island, not a huge valley like KL.
Paham kah???

tunglang

Another troll?
From developers or from Komtar Tower?

zoro

Did anyone ask for trams except pf which is a novelty but will die off and passengers abandon it?

peter pang

The BCF is so half hearted that it could not even design a tram line map for the mainland. And how about this, BCF fancifully states that “”you can get board a tram in Butterworth and alight in Tanjung Tokong, or board a tram at the airport and alight in Raja Uda””. Pray tell, how long will it take me to travel from Butterworth to Tg. Tokong using this slow slow tram ? How is it different from the bus ? The teeny tiny half page dedicated to the mainland is made even more pointless, obnoxious, and useless by the… Read more »

tunglang

Publicity Stunt 🙂 🙂 🙂 : “Do we want another concrete jungle?” If one can honestly say that without blinking 2 eyes at the same time, I Want To Believe (X-Files Mantra). Times has changed faster than the slow flow of Sia Boey canal water. “Shui” = Money is staring right into the blinking eye$ of CAT right in the canal below stared from Komtar Tower. Why not make more “shui” (money) from this Sia Boey Publicity Stunt? We Penangites must wake up today from such unsavoury snake-oil salesman speeches of Political Traders. But one thing for sure: these salesmen… Read more »