Poor enforcement against illegal parking: Penang Forum dialogue with CM

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This was part of the discussion with the chief minister which focussed on illegal parking. Media reports described it as a “heated exchange”. You be the judge.

As has happened in the past, whenever Penang Forum committee members raise problems with the state government, they invariably are invited to take over or advise the state government or local council on the matter.

In this case, Penang Forum rep in the MBPP Lim Mah Hui was invited to take charge of the towing of illegally parked vehicles. But he declined as he claimed that his advice in the past was not heeded.

While some may welcome such openness to seeking expertise, others may share the view of one of the Penang Forum members who described such offers as “shifting the responsibility” from those entrusted to actually do the job.

Anyway, the main issue here appears to be the underutilisation of the council tow-trucks and the poor enforcement against illegal parking. I don’t think you need much expertise to handle that. Those responsible just have to get on with their jobs.

The question is, why were new tow-trucks acquired when the existing ones were underutilised and why are the enforcement officers unable to step up their towing of illegally parked vehicles?

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glissantia

Beijing went from millions of bicycles to cars. To get rich was glorious. Billionaries and foreign investors praised the “open economy” and “development.” Now, they choke and suffer various “modern” diseases. The municipality resorted to putting up large pictures of a sunlit vista for visitors to pose against for photos. Something like our plastic palm trees. Most people are firmly delusional and will not take their heads out of the sand before the coming apocalypse. Their idea of progress is ever more or bigger possessions or adventures. As for officials who managed to gain power over public wealth, the response… Read more »

owc

Good news. Tourists from China (2000 employees of Perfect group) are coming back to Penang:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilBm4gjp_Ps
Asia Comic Cultural Museum is the latest attraction.

rajraman666

Facial expression of Deity. Support his face with hand – not going to bother what others going to say. Decision already made. Small laugh when he is unhappy – to hide his displeasure. Throw challenge – Can Councilor have the power to terminate state appointed staff? – try to make the Counselor stupid. rajraman. Wondering why Deity protecting non performing Mayor? She can’t delegate the job. She not supposed to tow a car but delegate the job to someone. If the person can’t perform she had to change a new person and if the new person can’t perform,it’s means she… Read more »

peng cheong

Penang should emulate Johor in promoting public transportation – see the free bus service Bas Muafakat Johor: http://www.basmuafakatjohor.com Perkhidmatan Bas Muafakat Johor merupakan perkhidmatan bas yang disediakan oleh Kerajaan Negeri Johor melalui 4 Pihak Berkuasa Tempatan yang terlibat serta di kendalikan oleh Perbadanan Pengangkutan Awam Johor (PAJ). Tujuan perkhidmatan ini diadakan adalah bagi mengurangkan kos sara hidup warganegara dan memberikan kemudahan serta meningkatkan mutu perkhidmatan pengangkutan awam kepada rakyat di laluan-laluan yang telah di kenalpasti. Perkhidmatan Bas Muafakat Johor diberikan secara percuma kepada seluruh warganegara. Laluan perkhidmatan Bas Muafakat Johor merangkumi 15 laluan di wilayah Iskandar Malaysia meliputi kawasan Johor… Read more »

tunglang

Loke chosen as PHC director
http://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2016/03/06/loke-chosen-as-phc-director-uproar-as-seremban-mp-appointed-to-manage-penang-hill/
Penangites lovingly call a street hawker food: Tok Tok Mee (for Wantan Mee)
Now, someone or ‘it’ imports an unfamiliarised taste: Loke Loke Mien.
How to digest???
Is Penang short of talents to run anything under the sun?
Can’t blame that Niao Kong still stuck at 28th For Komtar to really feel the ground of reality from above CAT iCloud.

zoro

Love to hit below the belt. Many food are prepared by Burmese, Bangla and non Penang lang. Ho liao, ho bee and ho jak. Yum yum. Nasi kandatvClear line 1. Secret recipes.

tunglang

Niao Kong already enforced no foreigner cooking local cuisines in Penang.
How to fight an online troll warfare when your Venerable not even inform/update you of this intelligence (no foreigner cook enforcement)?
Either ‘it’ did not b’cos you are so near (in worshipping) yet so far (in KL?) from ‘it’ or you already make a knee-jerk mockery of your Idol!

peng cheong

Penang-born talents prefers to operate elsewhere eg. Jho Low … in New York, Khaw Boon Wan as a minister in Singapore…

So Penang has to rely on foreign talents eg. Jacksen F. Tiago as the coach of state football team.

tunglang

Hitting the Archilles Heel of MBPP may have caused a Krakatoa (volcanic) explosion from 28th Flr Komtar Tower. Short of a high-pitch screaming from Venerable Niao Kong, the Pontius Pilate act of washing it’s 4 paws is all too familiar in the absence of Chow Chow which might have ‘softened’ the face off. This explosion we Penangites have gotten used to it. How will CAT defend a still lackadaisical MBPP after 8 years of honeymooning @ work when Competency is still a CAT’s laughing stock? (see it in the video above) Sampai lah memberi jawatan yang susah yang sepatutnya di… Read more »

Swat

Kinda funny, day by day you sound more like a firebrand towards LGE.
Just curious, are you paid for that ?

tunglang

Let me laugh like Niao Kong in the video. If I am paid, do you think I want to waste my limited time helping the Arrogant CAT to buck up? I might as well sing praises for Gelakan & Bee Bo End here (to create awareness & change perception). Even my daughter told me public perception of Niao Kong has gone from good to bad since the proposed Gottlieb Road widening which will cut into most of her Pg Chinese Girls High Sch recreational field. How about cutting into Heng Ee Secondary Sch where Ah Piang has a place for… Read more »

zoro

It is better to offer some suggestions rather than complains. We can’t have both. We complain about persistent traffic jams. What we want the authorities to do? To facilate the flow, trees and some straightening are required. If not they are seen not doing anything. We take public transport but they are under armno Gomen and services may not be convenient and time consuming. Bicycle, they are too hot under sun and wet under rain.

tunglang

To facilitate flow of traffic, widening road by cutting into a school field is AOK??? You must be dreaming with Niao Kong … fantasies. Think out of the CAT Box instead of lamenting “what to do” like an idiot champion of Competency (My Foot)! Pls lah take out the ‘C’ letter from venerable CAT & you have AT which translates into Hokkien meaning Ah Too (a nickname for someone who never uses a brain to solve problems but rather invokes knee-jerk anger to counter like a Jerk. I fear what will Putrajaya become if such a Jerk sits there with… Read more »

zoro

wah you are better than cat? what solution. give solution and suggestion. either you behave like a cry baby, a grumpy old man or like a broken record you repeat over and over. volunteer and show us you are better in action. show you are captain penang. save penang.

zoro

SWAT, can it be a carbon copy, photocopy, chinese and Penang copy of Ibrahim Ali, tinju Ali or isma?

zoro

no problem if received donation from another royalty. rich people who has a car need subsidised bicycle? if have a car will still use it. sell it n donate the $ to buy bicycle. people remember generosity and not kiamsap.
you have not seen how many bicycles a bus can carrys? penang is a small place with narrow roads. certainly i love to see rapid load and unload buses in narrow road.

Tabik Kopi O

Dr Lim could not function because lack authority to execute his vision. Many wish he could take up LGE challenge to be the Enforcement Chief with state resources. If he can show results, who knows he can be the darling of many Penangites to become a CM one day!
Tunglang would have taken the challenge we wonder?

zoro

he is only good as antic broken lp record on a turn table. every tropic only grumpy blame negative ions and these are the contributions.
the blame should start at the supervisors and managers. what are supervisors or manager doing? dr lim as councilor should point that to the managers or mayor. if no action then to cm. imagine. malaysians like pm n cm look at small potato spend his time…. why we employ supervisors n middle managers for?

tunglang

ZZ, you want to take cheap shots at me?
Come see me… Don’t act like Cheap Minister Niao Kong taking shots at others with useless points.
This truly reflect your upbringing. I won’t blame (like Niao Kong) your gene though.
You are what kind of stuffs you are made of.

zoro

look at your own up bringing first. uncouth speak like mafia tai loh very dictator telling people to see you. why not tell cm to see you since you have so many complains and he is not doing his job. you only complain and sick of broken record. if i give useless points you give no points but complains. you take cheap shots at cm. tell him to see you. just waste my time to see a broken record and offer no point.

Tua Pai Kiah

Ai yah no fighting in cyberspace lah !

Zoro & Tunglang can physically meet up with LGE next week at Komtar ICT Level 2 during the official opening of Asia Comic Museum there.

May be Anil can be there to videotape the event; viewership sure hit all time high !

zoro

piah kiah, i have no problems with mppp and state gomen. tunglang has tonnes and higher than penang hill. please remind him. he wants to be capt penang fighting parking crimes and crime against humanity in environ botak hills, land reclamation and heritage in penang way. he will clamp any illegal cars that is the job for tunglang.
like spidey, we will support one who fight against crime and for justice

tunglang

A Kay Bo Piao.
Spinning & wasting of anilnetto.com spaces.
Anyway, … Komtar Tower of Niao Kong is a must for feeble minds & intoxicated high. … Just call out Niao Kong …

zoro

Sori Anil for taking space for someone ego, PERSONAL issues, grouses and taking cheap shots at komtar. they are displaced from this blog’s front page snd headlines. also not forgetting the person’s cheap shot on a national practice…. must be chow for yap more.

Pin

Because you have been throwing cheap shots to those who have different opinion than you.

tunglang

You asked for it:
If given a chance to ‘tarik kereta’ I would love to take the challenge.
But is the CM ready & prepared to take the risk of his MercS300Lansi get towed by me?
Think about the risk for your venerable Niao Kong.
Keep Calm, Keep Wondering!

peng cheong

Many big cities are now building “rapid bus” networks, with dedicated lanes. If well designed, these are a cheap, effective form of public transport. But governments that invest in public transport while retaining the inducements to drive are mostly wasting their money. Ideally, all would follow London, Singapore and Stockholm in charging drivers to move around the city at congested times. But cutting subsidies would be a good start. So hats off to the great cities of Latin America, which are doing more than those in Africa or Asia to reform. São Paulo has abolished parking minimums; Mexico City has… Read more »

tunglang

Simple.
To this Niao Kong, “either I do the job OR you had better do it better”.
Ego is too big to be questioned. Bin-chui too thin to tear.
As I said earlier, go to TNB Kantin (Anson Road) to order a Nasi Pattaya, cut it into half & you get a real hot x-plosive taste of current Penang issues. For more to come, just order another.
Is this a leader you want to vote for a job ‘too difficult’ for CAT?

Btw, why is the meaning of C acronym in CAT: Competency? My foot!

zoro

of course you blame on the cat. you never blame the …. what your armno polisi been doing? you sounds ferderal gomrn ttraffic polisi also go on awol? polisi is more power than cat. you only pay little tax to state but armno gomen charge you everything include gst yet you still want the state tax like bullock cart wheel? sori your heritage. no wonder more you make malaysia paying more tax but less work.

tunglang

What a knee-jerk Jerk!
Same temperament as Niao Kong.
Quick to draw, slow to think out of the box, if ever will.
Sorry, I won’t care what stuffs you are made of to spew incoherent like Boy Scouts.

zoro

it show how bias and unfair when you are slow. you cant debate and offer any suggestions. your stuff is old granny but and act like tenderfoot …

tunglang

No even in Penang, can comment like a Komtar Tower watchman.
Either you are feeding wrong info (to confuse & twist & personality attack) or you prefer to hallucinate in the imaginable 308 fever for Niao Kong’s venerabilities.
Come to Penang & drive or ride Rapid Penang around the island to see the evidences.
Knee-jerking is bad for you health.
See the real thing before commenting from hearsay or what else imaginable.

Jetty Lee

Councillor Lim frustrated not able to carry out his plan for smoother flow; then said LGE did not response to his proposals. LGE then gave him the enforcer role with resources to tow away those blocking traffic. Councillor Lim not date take up this role knowing he can tow away cats and his life soon be towed to heaven by road bullies? Lesson learnt from this clip is many LGE critics can talk and comment big time but given the enforcer roles suddenly chicken out? May be they want to become Mayor instead then tell LGE they need local plan… Read more »

tunglang

If Lim Mah Hui takes on the challenge, chances are a Merc S300Lansi from Komtar Tower of Arrogance may get towed for illegal parking in places like Campbell Street!!!
Who says a ‘tua liab’ car cannot be towed?

zoro

talk like paper tiger. do it and all people in the world support you because it is right. what kind of teaching from parents and up bringing. you must also do to bn niao kong too. scare and… tail between legs with armo tau khors.

Will Barclay

2.5 cars per day towed by 6 tow trucks… Doesn’t sound as though this resource is being fully utilised!

tunglang

Anil, anytime go to Farlim near main traffic light & you can see cars parking by roadside. Everyday causing traffic slow down. Still where is enforcement? Go elsewhere, the same issue. If you want to be Competent as a state gomen, then do it right from the start. Why argue & shift responsibility as if CAT is only able to do it without comparison. And worse to laugh off Lim Mah Hui. To ask other to take on the job sounds too feeble which shows a lack of will to clean up lackadaisical work attitude in MBPP. To say the… Read more »

Tan Wee Theng

I wonder if those who are suggesting privatising tow trucking have had the experience of dealing with private tow truckers before?

tunglang

One fact: private tow truckers don’t deal or haggle. “Want to tow or not?”
And tow truckers have their omni-present ‘feeders’ on the road – looking our for accident cars. And they are fast to the scene -faster than our Polis.
I have a friend who was a 4WD kaki, is a 4WD mechanic & a tow trucker. Your 4WD turn turtle in rainforest? No problem only if you can pay. No cham seong.

zoro

must be very exclusive. 4wd in penang island.

tunglang

Can’t comment b’cos Zorro rides a donkey & wear an eye mask with no peripheral vision!

zoro

Driving 4wd with donkey bars in Penang very progressive and visionary and yet wants to be jam free for you only otherwise more cheap shots at anyone having opposing views.

tunglang

How many summon tickets for parking offences collected per day by MBPP? No need to scratch heads on how many cars to tow away for illegal parking. 2.5 – 3 cars is unbelievable! X-Files is more believable. May I suspect corruption @ work(?) Scenario – officers about to tow away a car, owner (allegedly) ask for cham seong. (Allegedly) pay a duit kopi. Settled(?) Ada duit kopi, better than no car towed for the day. Why the hassle & paperwork? This may explain why so few cars towed. Happy Officer: Satu Kopi-O kau kau & Roti Bakar tabah Telor 3… Read more »

Tan Wee Theng

Tunglang, you are making a serious allegation which is very unfair to MBPP officers. Have you seen it with your own eyes or it’s all in your creative imagination. I have seen many vehicles being clamped or towed away unannounced in my neighborhood but I am happy to pledge that NOT ONCE have I seen what you are suggesting.

Tabik Kopi O

Creative imagination from kopi o induced hallucination?
If so, my support for Tunglang but can’t afford to bail him if he gets into troubles with road bullies

zoro

it takes 2 parties. taker n giver. tunglang n calvin are suggesting penang langs n kias are very corrupt. dr lim. that is the main problem. penang public CAN be corrupt. they are willing to give and take. if our chief ali baba n 40 thieves can do it and calvin says senior management not show examples and close one eye. yet these are the people look down upon lky

tunglang

Go look out the English Dictionary for the word – suspect.

zoro

tan, we the majority is wrong he only suspects. we yen wong him. i say sori to him.

Tabik Kopi O

Nowadays Clampers being used fast and efficient, and saman RM50 on spot to remove each clamper. “ChamSeong” can be caught on mobile; no binchooi if posted easily get identified globally! Pay the saman on spot no direct negotiation pls. Money collected can fund State Bike Puncture Repair Looks islandwide, and LGE can offer DrLim a Director post encouraging people to bike to work, to hawker centres etc. Rayleigh brand bicycles have made comeback. Various categories various pricing to suit different levels of binchooi Penangites. Tunglang should afford one ~RM300 for goodness being a Markeing Manager, and goodness sake dont ask… Read more »

zoro

your suggestion is good in private areas. but you clamp in farlim rd tunglang is kau peh kau puh more as it narrows the public. idea if car obstuct the flow, it has to removed.
easy to be a broken lp record repeat and have negative ions. contrbution is kau beh and kau. better drink susu than kopi kau kau. workable soln is difficult to please teh tarik or kopi o drinkers

tunglang

Pls lah. Write better English. Sounds like Bangla!

zoro

good suggestions. i do not have issues with mppp and state. tunglang has a lot higher than penang hill. piah kiah so okay for tunglang to clamp cm’s car if flout the law. tunglang as godfather bring the mamaks for support. but he is capt penang super hero

zoro

if there are 10 kereta lembu tunglang expects all of them to be clamped. if kereta lembu narrow the road, the tow car will come and block the road and tunglang will complain louder about why the jam from distance. if tunglang’s car happen to be one out the 10 cars. got clamped. he will ask why other cars are not clamped? any clamped owner will ask why the 9 cars are not clsmoed? if tunglang went to station to claim his car but find dents and scratches are all over. okay semua okay? who wants to do the towing?

zoro

Penang forummers should set example and take the lead. Turn it into bicycle capital of Malaysia if bejing was once a bicycle capital. Most people live on the flat ground and hills are in the middle of the island. But instead, they come to work in stylo and show off with flashy and highly powered cars. Dr lim as councillor can cycle to work and aduns and mps on weekends can also cycle. Bicycles are not cheap especially those made of carbon fibres. Incentives to be given to mppp staff riding to work such as free repairs, shower rooms in… Read more »

tunglang

I would love to have that.
How about state gomen subsidised bicycles for Penangites?
No need bin-chui bicycles to keep costs low.
To complement cycling, how about RapidPenang modify its buses to carry bicycles?
Cycle > Hop In > Hop Out > Cycle.

tunglang

Anil, good ideas can get potshots.
Just twist & turn & the potshots aimed without reading the whole sentence:
“How about state gomen subsidised bicycles for Penangites?”
Are they potshooting Penangites who collectively are taken as Tunglang?

As I said before, when the exhilarating minds get overdrive-worshipping an idol, how to think clearly & out of the CAT Box? Anything is but a knee-jerk of a jerk!

islandjoe

I agree this would be ideal but the roads are so chaotic its putting people off until we can get proper dedicated bike lanes on at least the big roads. Right now we can’t even get our roads right for cars. Even the lanes can shrink in width and then magically widen again (e.g. Mt Erskine Rd., Northam Rd, Kelawei Rd. etc). Too dangerous for bicycles. If they get that dedicated bicycle lane along the coast road into town, it would be a good start. Once in town the traffic is slower and less dangerous. Then we can say to… Read more »

tunglang

Last night I had a dream – Niao Kong: Think out of the box, men. Don’t blame us! Only I can blame anyone. I am not fully responsible for illegal parking & tow truck problems. Pls understand. I got so many botak-ed hills. But if you want these problems solved, you take charge lah. I clean my hand. You can sack anyone, I don’t have the political will to do it. You are fully authorised, but I won’t be responsible! At the end of the day, I am still a voted representative of the people. I have a job not… Read more »

islandjoe

Seriously asking his critic to take on the job is actually pathetic, childish, passive aggressive, and smug. He knows very well this guy will not be given a proper mandate when he as CM with the mandate can’t get it done. These critics should tell him that if he or the mayor can’t get these things done, then to step aside because its what they’re hired to do. If the mayor is busy, then SHE should come up with a new staff structure to address it. Not ask this person to take it over ad hoc. The CM’s tone saying… Read more »

zoro

what is the difference with coming a new staff structure and asking someone new if he can take over? latter is more direct. gomen wants to employ a new mas manager to turn round the losses. they are direct to applucants. dr lim could be an applicant. he chose not to be he

Johan Khun Pana

With a drastic drop in fuel price , motorist & motorcyclist are driving round and round for no apparent reasons. 1- Ensure strict enforcement on to illegal parking 24/7 2- Get rid of all those “jaga kereta” for goodness sake. Issuing tickets is not solving problem. Clamp it or tow it. Another 2 agencies are involves in this , the regular cops and the traffic cops. Where are the 2 of them ? They should be haul in for explanation. The proposal to impose “entry fee” to all privately owned vehicle entering certain zones is a good one. Rapid growth… Read more »

zoro

dr lim should find out the reasons why. if they go on awol, monitor and check on them. give them. min quota on no of vehicles. if armno gomen polisi can do it why cant they do it too.

Tan Wee Theng

Anil, at what utilization rate would we say that the tow trucks are being under or over utilised? What is the current utilization rate anyway? Where can we find the records? Is the information in the public domain? I live near Macalister Road. I see MBPP officers actively clamping and towing illegally parked vehicles on regular basis. To be fair, I wont know if they could do more or being over zealous in enforcement.

bennyooi

Penang committed to mitigate acute traffic problems

chl

After listening to both Dr. Lim’s and Mr. Ranjan’s points, I think it is the right move to straighten Jalan Masjid Negeri. Why do I get stuck in a jam at Jalan Masjid Negeri? 1. The traffic light at the Convent Green Lane intersection is hard to see if you are coming down from Jalan Scotland. If you are stuck in a jam, especially around the bend near McD, try to see whether the traffic light has turned green. You probably can’t. That slows down the cars as they are not ready when it’s green. The latency adds up and… Read more »

lim

Little hantu, you are really a little hantu, mbpp should think of how to increase car parks…

Why dont you give some useful suggestions.

I agree with Xiao Bee i believe some ppl are just trying to find fault with lim guan eng…

Swat

Keep crying over spilled milk ? Penang forum looks set to fight DAP ?
The critical situation here is in fact, everywhere not only found in Penang or Malaysia only !

calvinsankaran

LGE often boasts that he has transformed the civil service to reflect his CAT mantra. Obviously to PH cheerleaders and non-Penangites this claim works every time. Many of my friends from outside of Penang are under the impression that LGE has turned Penang into Singapore under his tenure and are shocked when they see the reality on the ground. The traffic jams, the parking behaviour as well as the pathetic service and enforcement of MBPP and MPSP provide them with a reality check that very much different from what is being claimed in the PH ceramahs. Recently I had a… Read more »

zoro

penang civil servant most corrupt? then you should be like dr lim. why macc under armno gomrn take no action? you and they must be no better to allow such thing. macc are receiving millions in buget. they dont catch big fishes. now even kampong fish and sotong cant catch. no wonder out chief can get away so easy. gaji buta better than petronas

zoro

no wonder malaysia is in s drain. senior management (allegedly) see corruption and allow it? the juniors are behaving like tarzens as senior become one eye jack. senior allow it and take no corrective. you must be one of them semua boleh

Tang

Those who want to drive have to pay special tax to the state as long term plan to reduce car ownership, and at same time increase more public buses, mini buses, and tuttut taxis.
With reduced motor cars, then have dedicated lanes for cyclists.
Meantime, plant more shady trees by road side.

Tua Pai Kiah

Penang Forum folks next time come to state meeting set good example come walking to Komtar and don’t drive.

zoro

state gomen has to spend millions to control vehicles. how about vehicles driven by lyden an outersider? armno gomen control all the public transport.like bus taxi train and boats. even the free lloop bus is not provided by armno gomen but penang lang and kia under lge gomen pays for it.

peng cheong

Singapore is to introduce new satellite-based ERP (electronic Road Pricing) – this unit will be able to alert drivers of priced roads well in advance (before turn-offs to alternatives), inform them of charges, and provide real-time traffic information. Armed with this information, the drivers can better decide when to drive, which route to take, or leave the car at home and take public transport instead.

The money collected from ERP is used to fund/subsidise public transportation like bus and MRT.

See the graphical information here:
http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/transport/ncs-mhi-to-build-islandwide-satellite-based-erp-for-556m

Harish

Illegal parking happens because there are too many cars in Penang and there is simply insufficient parking space most of the time. Penang Forum should promote public transportation and discourage people driving (bad for environment with carbon release to atmosphere) in order to alleviate the problem. Do something positive instead of complaining to the state government.

Plain Truth

” Employees going AWOL for 12 days and the boss having to beg his workers to work. ”
If this is the way that the MPPP is run, the MPPP boss should be sacked.

zoro

dr lim a big talk but he is a poor manager like former cm. that is malaysian culture. semua boleh. kau tim indiscipline. we need people like lky to straighten up