How to slash Penang transport infrastructure cost to RM10bn

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Lim Mah Hui and Ahmad Hilmy say by just using a modified version of the Halcrow plan, the state could have an integrated transport network for the whole state for just RM10bn – instead of close to RM50bn.

And the state need only seek about RM2.6bn from the federal governement – not RM10bn or RM20bn.

See the full article here.

By the way, with all the focus on getting billions for transport for Penang, whatever happened to the request to the federal government to compensate Kedah for protecting the northern region’s water catchment areas in Ulu Muda? It seems to have gone quiet.

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Lim Goh Poh
Lim Goh Poh
21 Aug 2019 8.12am

RM100 million to get a fleet of mini buses running deep in Penang, morning office hours send folks to FTZ fCtories by zones amd likewise afterwork. Connectivity, punctuality, and convenience the keys to wipe out unnecessary driving contribiting to global warming with ozone depletion because of excessive carbon from motor vehicles.

Pipit
Pipit
23 Aug 2019 4.18pm
Reply to  Lim Goh Poh

‘Pas Mutiara’ was launched today – monthly RM50 for unlimited travel on rapidPenang buses and ferry. Enjoy savings. No excuse not to take public bus now.

https://www.orientaldaily.com.my/news/north/2019/08/23/303504

Shriek
23 Aug 2019 8.55pm
Reply to  Pipit

Everyone seems diam diam. This means no. No no no. If tu lang happy, he will talk the most. But there is no lead from Penang forum

Ameer
Ameer
24 Aug 2019 12.14pm
Reply to  Pipit

Pas Mutiara can slash our transportation cost.
Anil should help to promote it here.
Thank you Pipit for highligting this.
I can now save money.

Pipit
Pipit
25 Aug 2019 12.28pm
Reply to  Ameer

PAS Mutiara now.
Akan Datang : Feri Pelancung

Wei
Wei
25 Aug 2019 1.32pm
Reply to  Pipit

no bus hugger come in with hands and legs up in the air showing support…?? what a let down….where is the bin chui 4WD driver Tung Tung ?? NATO ??

Pipit
Pipit
21 Aug 2019 12.04pm

How about having electric buses like in GuangZhou China? Less glamour but certainly cheaper.

Pipit
Pipit
22 Aug 2019 7.32pm

Top 10 places to visit in Penang

Hope this will entice outstation readers to visit Penang to support the local economy.

Don Anamalai
Don Anamalai
23 Aug 2019 12.17pm
Reply to  Pipit

After all the negative vibes propagated in this blog, good to see positive promotion of Penang as a travel destination. It is not all bad in Penang. Look at the positive side! Cheers Kopi!

Lim Goh Poh
Lim Goh Poh
22 Aug 2019 1.35pm

Successful bus system in Houston. May CM Chow and team go there lawat sambil belajar.

https://youtu.be/nVy69Td-ses

Can implement near immediately.

Milk Tea
Milk Tea
21 Aug 2019 12.51am

Big NO to both. Use the 7 billion to combat climate change first. Start building coastal walls, many parts of Penang are vulnerable. Dead fishes shows the sign.

Shriek
21 Aug 2019 7.04pm
Reply to  Milk Tea

Bukan bukan bukan. It is boh. Boh tea. Use the money for mimium teh susu. Susu teh is cooling but milk tea is firely hot.

tunglang
tunglang
24 Aug 2019 7.29pm

Companies are cutting costs, people are eating out less, parents are stretching their small budgets to see thro’ the months. BUT here we have a state gomen that spends like tomorrow will be better, no thanks to the trade war between China & Donald Trump. A car is a depreciating investment solely for transport, not so much of a show of class (to rub shoulders with developers) or for exceeding comfort of elected officials who are supposed to serve the people above all else. Why can’t a car be serviced or overhauled as good as new? Toyotas are reliable workhorses… Read more »

Shriek
25 Aug 2019 5.28pm
Reply to  tunglang

Tu Lang, everything has a design life. Life span. Even overhaul, you fly or go and make the spare parts? Look at heritage Wong fei hoon houses. Repair like Frankenstein.

tunglang
tunglang
27 Aug 2019 8.34am
Reply to  Shriek

Mind you PgDAPCAT also has a life span.
Not 9-lives trying CAT-luck with Penangites as Niao Kong had wished for 9-terms CM but hard luck!

Preema
Preema
27 Aug 2019 1.42pm
Reply to  tunglang

Unfortunately Gerakan and MCA/MIC have lost all their lives and cannot be reborn or reincarnated due to bad karma. If you vote for opposition, you are bringing in the extreme R&R of Umno and PAS alliance in the next GE. Not good for non-Malays.

Lim Goh Poh
Lim Goh Poh
24 Aug 2019 4.06pm

We live in precarious world now in the midst of hehe noise shrieking and provoking penanglang just because not being able to agree in disagreement. Bigger noises affecting mankind like Amazon fire, glacier melting and rising sea level, trade war disrupting globalized supply chsin affecting Bolehland (Penang FTZ), Kashmir dispute escalating to nuclear warfare, Iran-Saudi doctrine debate leading to Israel-US embargo and war strike, North Korea and USA rhectorics, Japan vs South Korea tech war, Brexit vs EU, Hong Kong crisis……. Time to ignore those depressing signal of impending judgement day so i retrieve and dust off my old walkman… Read more »

Shriek
25 Aug 2019 5.23pm
Reply to  Lim Goh Poh

Small thing kbkb. Big things every quiet. If listen to walkwoman, let Amazon burn like Rome burning. While emperor nero play his fiddle

Pipit
Pipit
23 Aug 2019 3.54pm

Poorer than we think: Malaysia’s official poverty figures ‘vastly’ undercounted, says UN expert
https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2019/08/23/poorer-than-we-think-malaysias-official-poverty-figures-vastly-undercounted-says-un-expert

If one has low skills and cannot survive in anaexpensive expensive city, then better move to kampung (grow vegetables or fruit) to have a more blissful life.

Pipit
Pipit
25 Aug 2019 7.28pm
Reply to  Pipit

Malaysia’s poverty rate much higher than reported (CNA)

No report by RTM or TV3.

Preema
Preema
27 Aug 2019 1.38pm
Reply to  Pipit

PH must be brave to dispute those padt statistics from BN that are deceiving.

Our B40 is really hardcore poor if they choose to live in expensive cities in Malaysia if they do no have skills and qualifications to earn good wages. Education is important for their next generation to escape poverty, not BR1M.

Pipit
Pipit
24 Aug 2019 12.57pm

Activist lawyer Siti Kasim has called on the government not to simply dismiss suggestions made by a United Nations representative to reassess the existing poverty line income (PLI) in the country. “The reality on the ground is you cannot survive in Kuala Lumpur with a PLI of RM980,” said the lawyer. UN Special Rapporteur on Extreme Poverty and Human Rights Philip Alston had on Friday (Aug 23) called on the government to re-assess how it measured poverty so that the hardship faced by many Malaysians was not dismissed “by statistical sleight of hand”. Alston said that rigorous independent analyses had… Read more »

Pipit
Pipit
25 Aug 2019 12.25pm

KUALA LUMPUR, Aug 25 — National Patriots Association has urged the Pakatan Harapan government to focus on economic issues, including eradicating both rural and urban poverty, rather than bickering on ethno-religious issues.

https://www.malaymail.com/news/malaysia/2019/08/25/focus-on-economy-instead-of-obsessing-over-race-and-religion-patriot-tells/1783996

SpaceMarine
SpaceMarine
23 Aug 2019 1.15pm

Hongkie emulating the success of their fellow MM2H mainlanders (70s post-retirement life) in vlogging their living experience/cost in Penang to encourage more hongkies to migrate. Expect more immigration from hkers seeking for a peaceful setting in contrast with the constant unrests at home.

https://youtu.be/_DDkg0HBc0I

Shriek
23 Aug 2019 9.00pm
Reply to  SpaceMarine

Different classes of richness. Those really well off go to UK. Those barely afford found as third class and hence only Thailand or malaysia

SpaceMarine
SpaceMarine
22 Aug 2019 12.17pm

How come HDB scheme never been replicated in Penang? Also housing hawkers under one roof (hygenic food courts). Much to learn!

https://www.scmp.com/comment/opinion/article/3023639/singapore-calm-while-hong-kong-boils-and-its-down-citys-greedy?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook#Echobox=1566442017

Pipit
Pipit
23 Aug 2019 9.28am
Reply to  SpaceMarine

Lee Kuan Yew, having being educated in UK, created a better housing scheme than the Ang Moh. The Hong Kong youth should admit that the British did not provide them a good legacy in public housing, so no need to wave the union Jack today. In Hong Kong, less than 16% of the population – or around 1.2 million people – live in subsidised “home ownership” flats. In Singapore, over 80%, or about 4.5 million people, live in flats built by the public housing authority. Singapore’s Housing and Development Board builds and sells affordable flats on 99-year leases. These flats… Read more »

Jenny
Jenny
23 Aug 2019 3.06pm
Reply to  Pipit

If only Lim Chong Eu collaborated with LKY in the 70s to have HDB scheme in Penang, then we have good public housing on the island today.

Shriek
23 Aug 2019 8.58pm
Reply to  Jenny

Chong Yew collaborate with sinkapore. Only gave (part of) the komtar project to his relative to build high rise office tower. Rest is his story

Ameer
Ameer
24 Aug 2019 12.16pm
Reply to  Jenny

In the 80s we laughed at Singapore HDB flats as pigeon home. Today new HDB flats are even better than most of our private condominium!

glissantia
glissantia
25 Aug 2019 1.27pm
Reply to  Ameer

Also other aspects related to socialism and enforcement. E.g.
– Action against uncivil neighbours, vancals, thugs.
– Aid to refurbish old flats, nearby infrastructure to maintain value.
– Access to rooftop (called “void space”) for social fuctions.
– Building committees (if they exist) cannot swipe the money they collect.
– No cencern over developer running away and “cannot be found”.
– No concern over racist neighbours.
– Most people do not need a parking lot due to good public transport.

Shriek
25 Aug 2019 5.32pm
Reply to  Ameer

See evolution is at work. Sinkapore has no choice but modifiy here and there. Like airlines. 1st generation 2nd generation jet. But look, Malaysia make improvements in shop houses and walk up flats.

Benny
Benny
23 Jun 2020 5.58pm

I support to cost down and use something with less maintenance. However, the CHINA’s ART is not a mature train system yet. Furthermore, cost of the land is not cheaper.

glissantia
glissantia
25 Aug 2019 3.42pm
glisssantia
glisssantia
22 Aug 2019 1.10pm

If the international loan is RM40-45 billion (at 90%) instead of 5-8, the kickback is proportional. Today, even HR departments get kickback for taking in pre-imported immigrant workers. This is the devilish reality of the “free market”, “development” and neo-colonial globalisation. The Great Shaitan will provide the neo-liberal slogans with which to con your citizens.

This is why the West finds China to be such a terrifying threat. Don’t judge it from the bad deals a certain world-class kleptocrat managed to do with specific businesses (of known bad reputation) from that country.

Gooner
Gooner
21 Aug 2019 9.49pm

Dear Anio, appreciate if you can get information and images from the public display of PTMP on going currently

Shriek
25 Aug 2019 5.37pm
Reply to  Anil Netto

Should okay. Otherwise the first man TuLang will be kbkb?? Tu Lang is internet savy normally keen on pmpt. Otherwise his comments are spinning and trolls

Pipit
Pipit
21 Aug 2019 8.30pm

The Malaysian Cabinet has given the green light for Go-Jek to offer motorcycle ride-hailing services in the country.

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asia/malaysia-go-jek-go-ahead-motorbike-ride-hailing-11828520

Mat Rempit now can cari makan.

SpaceMarine
SpaceMarine
22 Aug 2019 12.12pm
Reply to  Pipit

Desperate attempt to increase KPI on youth employment. This surely will cause more accidents and risk on lifes being lost. Ministers should focus on real corporate/MNC investments that create real sustainable jobs.

Don Anamalai
Don Anamalai
23 Aug 2019 12.19pm
Reply to  SpaceMarine

Is this how PH hope to reduce unemployment rate among the youth?
An extension of Mat Rempit culture?

Should focus more on TVET to raise the skill sets of our youth, as Kula is trying to promote.

Pipit
Pipit
23 Aug 2019 8.06pm
Reply to  SpaceMarine

PAS is more concerned about the sexual implications of Gojek.
https://www.malaymail.com/news/malaysia/2019/08/23/pas-mp-claims-go-jek-will-lead-to-more-sexual-harassment-cases/1783619
Zakir should advise them not to be too obsessed with sexual matters.

tunglang
tunglang
24 Aug 2019 11.51am
Reply to  Pipit

When the mind always think about external bad sex, the consequences are warped reasoning, abstinence without biological satisfaction, mind+body+spirit self conflict, & a devilish attempt to sneak on sex while thinking nobody is watching!
That’s not a God given life to live happily thro’ to ever after this life!!!

Pipit
Pipit
24 Aug 2019 8.10pm
Reply to  tunglang

Live the present moment and face the daily life challenges.

Do not focus so much of afterlife, and not be tempted by the ’72 virgins’, as you could be manipulated.

Pipit
Pipit
25 Aug 2019 10.42am
Reply to  tunglang

Craving – to be fixated on an outcome, makes one unhappy. This is the 2nd basic principle of the 4 Noble Truths of Buddhism: the origin of suffering.

No need Zakir to dispute.

Lim Goh Poh
Lim Goh Poh
21 Aug 2019 5.01pm

Looks like only elevated schemes the only option favoured by CM Chow, putting to rest proposal by Mah Hui.
https://www.buletinmutiara.com/state-govt-open-to-options-other-than-lrt-project/

Pipit
Pipit
22 Aug 2019 4.11pm
Reply to  Lim Goh Poh

GEORGE TOWN, Aug 22 — Penang Chief Minister Chow Kon Yeow today said that the state is expecting to top RM10 billion in total investments by the end of the year. He said this will almost double last year’s total investments of cd billion.

Lim Goh Poh
Lim Goh Poh
22 Aug 2019 7.20pm
Reply to  Pipit

CM Chow unfortunately does not have business pedigree and acumen to stir Penang to greater heights not copying past successful formulas now not nescessarily relevant anymore. Chong Eu created Bayan Lepas FTZ benefitting 2-3 tech minded generations, Soo Khoon nothing i can think of, Guan Eng developed condos to beef up state coffer not sustaunable after his 2 terms. CM Chow’s follow-up with 2nd phase of PDC business outsourcing program with a mere 2 storey building once Singapore Temasek pulled out invrstment.

Wei
Wei
23 Aug 2019 9.44am
Reply to  Lim Goh Poh

yeah you are so right..Penang is going down and out…kindly move to Kelantan for better future…..don’t talk only ACTION please….

Maurice
Maurice
23 Aug 2019 3.01pm
Reply to  Wei

CM Chow should know that the world has changed and he cannot stick to SOW (same old way) of doing things. Penang cannot attract R&D after losing the low cost manufacturing advantage to Vietnam. For tourism Penang must capitalise on its own unique charm, cannot depend on the outdated Tourism Malaysia method focusing on you-know-what. Do not make your unique street food halal and you will lose your tourists from China and Taiwan!

Shriek
23 Aug 2019 9.03pm
Reply to  Lim Goh Poh

What is attractive about Penang? Not centre of the world. We still have Laos, Thai, Vietnam and Cambodia.

Ameer
Ameer
24 Aug 2019 12.20pm
Reply to  Shriek

MNC factories relocated from China to escape trade war mostly moved to Vietnam, hardly any came to Malaysia. Malaysis neither have low cost advantage now high skill wotlforce for R&D. Stuck in the middle syndrome no good for our economy. No need to be proud of our GDP growth that is funded by more borrowings and debt for future generations to suffer.

Lim Goh Poh
Lim Goh Poh
25 Aug 2019 11.26am
Reply to  Ameer

Poverty in Malaysia at alarming stage in reality?

https://youtu.be/1SVADXGMeV4

However we heard our economy GDP is beyter than Singapore?

Shriek
25 Aug 2019 5.49pm
Reply to  Lim Goh Poh

Times different. Who wants to invest in Penang when they can do it in LOS, Cambodia Vietnam and China? Last time, China bamboo curtain. Vietnam war and Thailand may become like Vietnam. Many goes to Sinkapore. Penang getting the 2nd rated, 2 hand investment

Shriek
25 Aug 2019 5.45pm
Reply to  Lim Goh Poh

Elevated because the roads are too congested and share from a to z. Evevated is exclusive. There is no jam stop and wait for other vehicle to cross. Everyone will knows if they get on this train, they will get there within the time. Whereas even if get onto James bond car, it may delayed by jams and traffic lights.
Chip chip. You get what you pay for. Worse, no one will trust the ARTs as they don’t come on time or arrive at the destination on time.

glissantia
glissantia
21 Aug 2019 1.13pm

Not only the protection of water catchments has gone silent. Many other topics that sound nice around election time have also disappeared, e.g. – Financing political parties. – Separating religion from government, especially education; the PM-in-waiting supposedly originated “mererapi nilai-nilai…” – Explaining why 50 years of heavy assistance to one community did not help them. – Resolving the agony of industrial poisoning in specific communities. – Exemplary punishment for administrators who extort businesses and ordinary people – locking them up for good. – Persistent organised crime: gambling, prostitution, addictive narcotics, extortion, theft, smuggling, tax evasion, kidnapping (even of children), loan… Read more »

Wei
Wei
21 Aug 2019 1.04pm

10000 mil banker’s ptmp is too expensive…make me wonder how much going into paying bank interest….
i would propose 50 mil at most for my plan..put 10k shared electric motorbite on the road to solve traffic and environmental problem..we will name it Go-Die….you will go to office with Go-Die, deliver your machinery,concrete,steel or log on Go-Die, in case of emergency, we will send you to hospital with Go-Die, your kids will go to kindergarten and nursery school with Go-Die….so convenient….way Better, Cheaper, Faster