Critical analysis of Penang LRT decision: Debunking proponents’ view

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By Rosli Khan and Anil Netto

So the piece “Penang LRT decision, the result of comprehensive evaluation“, published by a news portal on 11 June turns out to be only the personal view of the author.

Three hours later, the same new portal reported: “Putrajaya, not state, will decide on Penang LRT, says Loke“.

For any discussion about a mass transit system in Penang, it is essential to critically analyse and challenge each of the five reasons provided in the first piece above.

Here is a detailed rebuttal (published on the Aliran website)

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luca
luca
27 Jun 2024 2.03pm

Penemuan arca Buddha berbentuk manusia dari abad kelapan hingga kesembilan di kawasan Tapak Warisan Arkeologi Bukit Choras, Yan, Kedah menunjukkan kawasan itu sebagai tapak keagamaan yang penting pada ketika itu dan lebih tua berbanding Angkor Wat di Kemboja dan Borobudur di Indonesia.

Maurice
Maurice
4 Jul 2024 2.23pm
Reply to  luca

High potential for Kedah to develop this historical place to attract tourists.

A Rakyat 8
7 Jul 2024 12.39am
Reply to  Maurice

But Kedah is govern by the PAS. Why will they want to develop a historical site that involves a religion of another, just to attract tourist?

Just look at Langkawi and the state’s policy on tourism.

shriek
shriek
14 Jul 2024 6.42pm
Reply to  A Rakyat 8

rakyat – the site is historic. they belongs to state or national treasure? You clueless or knows all?

Bhaskal
Bhaskal
23 Jun 2024 12.44pm

ART is like bus, may not appeal to most Penangites as they do not want association with poor folks or foreign workers who take RapidPenang. Hence LRT is more acceptable to them. That’s my opinion.

Loong Huat
Loong Huat
5 Jul 2024 11.05am
Reply to  Bhaskal

The proposed RM10.5 billion Mutiara light rail transit (LRT) system in Penang is now likely to have 21 stations instead of 22 while its length has been shortened to 28km from 28.43km.

https://www.thevibes.com/articles/news/102644/penang-shortens-lrt-line-cuts-number-ofstations

Macallum Station will be the main interchange, dispersing passenger traffic from Bayan Lepas, George Town, and Butterworth.

A Rakyat 8
6 Jul 2024 11.31am
Reply to  Loong Huat

Rakyat suspect they have very limited funds. They are going to keep changing specs and plans until GE 16 declared, then going to use the LRT project further to milk votes from our Rakyat.

Changes has been taking place since 2017. 2 federal and state elections have passed since then. The third is in about 2 years time.

shriek
shriek
12 Jul 2024 6.24pm
Reply to  A Rakyat 8

rakyat, what suspected? you must be clueless. Your malu boss built KL MRT has no $$$ for that. You think they have $$$. So prepare to be suck, chop or milk. Even if you have car, you need to pay tolls or increase in road tax. You really clueless

Gerry H
Gerry H
6 Jul 2024 6.17pm
Reply to  Bhaskal

Commenting on the development of the Penang International Airport (LTAPP) expansion works in Bayan Lepas, Anthony Loke said the tender for the first package has closed, and Malaysia Airports Holdings Bhd (MAHB) is selecting the contractors.

The expansion project involves three packages, with the first package involving shifting the control tower and increasing the capacity of the terminal from 6.5 million passengers a year to 12 million passengers a year.

A Rakyat 8
8 Jul 2024 3.24pm
Reply to  Gerry H

” Wrong to use public funds for privatised airports ” by Rosli Khan
dd 01 Jul 2024, 09:00 AM

https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/opinion/2024/07/01/wrong-to-use-public-funds-for-privatised-airports/

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Rosli Khan says, ” The decision announced by Tengku Zafrul to upgrade PIA has generated controversy, particularly because the government now plans to use public funds for an airport that it intends to privatise.”

Can MOT further comment on this ?

Loong Huat
Loong Huat
5 Jul 2024 11.00am

RON 95 subsidy removal may start this month, 30 sen hike to RM2.35 can save govt RM4 billion – economist

https://paultan.org/2024/07/04/ron95-subsidy-removal-should-be-in-stages-can-start-at-rm2-45-this-year-not-directly-to-rm3-30-analyst/

glissantia
glissantia
10 Jul 2024 1.18pm
Reply to  Loong Huat

They claim they will save. Is there any firm commitment on how the saving will be used? It may be spent on “more important” things. Such as the pay rise already announced.

Verasamy
Verasamy
15 Jul 2024 7.22pm
Reply to  glissantia

Why so skeptical?
You want the strategies of previous governments?

A Rakyat 8
24 Jun 2024 12.42am

The LRT project is now in the hands of the Federal, its owner MOF through one of its subsidiary. So, what role does the state play now, in this LRT project. Why did the State government gave up the LRT project to the federal government? Is it due to funding issues or due to some other reasons ? So, to whom do we address this argument of replacing LRT to ART now? To the PM, MOT and MOF or still continue the argument with the state as MOT has already said that Penang state no longer the owner of the Penang LRT project and has no more… Read more »

shriek
shriek
27 Jun 2024 9.33pm
Reply to  A Rakyat 8

It is taken by MOF and they asked State not to speak or questioned, Now you go and speak and questioned. Even Adun or MP dont do that. You? Adun or MP?

A Rakyat 8
29 Jun 2024 12.00am
Reply to  shriek

On an earlier comment, have given the possible reason why the Exco was asked not to give out any statements on the project especially possible changes on project details.

No one said anything about state questioning or speaking about it. This is your own speculation.

Rakyat not any party man, don’t have to toe the line or follow any party rules. Since Rakyat tax money is used, Rakyat has a right to ask or question and discuss about or protest against the project.

shriek
shriek
2 Jul 2024 6.47pm
Reply to  A Rakyat 8

Rakyat you clueless.$$$ is MOF but where is it built? Is your homeground – home turf. Without land, how or where the LRT or ART going to run? Run on the water?

A Rakyat 8
4 Jul 2024 1.16am
Reply to  shriek

This questions, you should direct to your party chief. My guess is that his thinking is the same as yours, like how? , where ?, what ?, run LRT ? on water ? on home turf? Got money, no money?

Oh, so many questions, kepala pun sakit, further delay the project, maybe drag until GE16. Then talk and question some more.

NGOs, Civil groups, Activists and other opposing parties very happy. Federal and state also happy with their wayang. PIA ?

My trusty bicycle awaits me.

shriek
shriek
7 Jul 2024 6.56pm
Reply to  A Rakyat 8

you clueless, the state have many things on paper as they have gamuda on board. but they dont have the paper money unless you contribute…. they are building a metro for sydney.and viaducts in taipei for taiwan years ago. .

A Rakyat 8
6 Jul 2024 11.19am
Reply to  shriek

So, what is happening with PIA extension project? Now that there is talk about Black rock buying up some shares, it being a private company and Rakyat’s money should not be spend for any Malaysian airport upgrading (?).

What happens now to the PIA extension project ? It was also suppose to begin before the end of this year.

https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/opinion/2024/07/01/wrong-to-use-public-funds-for-privatised-airports/

shriek
shriek
12 Jul 2024 6.30pm
Reply to  A Rakyat 8

You clueless again? PIA is bad for Penang – you said too much concrete, development, tourists, planes flying over head. Better move to Ke dah. PIA occupies 1/10 of the island.

glissantia
glissantia
29 Jun 2024 12.15pm
Reply to  A Rakyat 8

The whole purpose of these monster projects is the pour huge amounts of public wealth – double digit billions at present – into them. Not public benefit. The saddest part is that the works wreck nearby businesses and jobs, and raise pollution, for years.

Verasamy
Verasamy
15 Jul 2024 7.25pm
Reply to  glissantia

Don’t confuse LRT with those mega projects. It is for people. LRT may not be necessary for people like you who drive. It is a public transportation that is an improvement from the bus service. Learn to think like a commoner next time you are stuck in the traffic jam in your car.

Acolyte
Acolyte
1 Jul 2024 1.24pm
Reply to  A Rakyat 8

The LRT will decrease vehicle emissions, improve air quality and contribute to a healthier urban environment. It is time for government officials, business leaders, residents and even sceptics to support a project that promises to transform Penang into a more connected, sustainable and vibrant community.

A Rakyat 8
2 Jul 2024 2.15pm
Reply to  Acolyte

to support a project that promises to transform Penang into a more connected, sustainable and vibrant community ” Can do all these with bicycles or electric bicycles, e-motorcycles, e-motorcars and e-buses.

Which will actually contribute to decrease in fossil based emissions, improve air quality and contribute to a healthier urban environment.
Has the state pulled its head out from the ground?

shriek
shriek
8 Jul 2024 7.31pm
Reply to  A Rakyat 8

Rakyat 8 – clueless again. All those e-s have to be approved by Road Transport Department with PKR lead cabinet.

A Rakyat 8
9 Jul 2024 8.34pm
Reply to  shriek

So, clueless shriek. What are you trying to say here? Is there a more deeper meaning to your statement – (  e-s have to be approved by Road Transport Department with PKR lead cabinet.)

Is not DAP’s SG the minister of transport ?

shriek
shriek
2 Jul 2024 6.50pm
Reply to  Acolyte

Rakyat just clueless. With LRT, tourists and visitors can explore and go about discover Penang easily. They knows where are the tracks and Stations to board and get off. Even Ah peks and Ah Sims will take LRTs

A Rakyat 8
4 Jul 2024 1.41am
Reply to  shriek

Latest tourist attraction, concrete pylons sticking out from the sea with live electric hanging from it. Click, click, click.

Then go on to admire, take pictures of the LRT elevated concrete support beams running along the east coast of the island together with other concretes sticking out.

We can tell the tourist, this is the other contrasting beauty of our island.

shriek
shriek
7 Jul 2024 7.04pm
Reply to  A Rakyat 8

you clueless again. what you want to see in london if there is no monument, no trafagar square, parliament, big ben, tower bridge, millenium dome, buckingham palace, same with paris with eiffiel tower, lourve museum etc. same with china to see great wall and without rail and roads, you walk or cycle to see them. you just kbkb cluelessly

A Rakyat 8
8 Jul 2024 3.02pm
Reply to  shriek

Are you comparing our Penang bridge (which looks so run down now, poor maintenance) with all those places, you have mentioned ? Laughable.

shriek
shriek
14 Jul 2024 6.54pm
Reply to  A Rakyat 8

Rakyat, you clueless? How old is Penang Bridge? It is designed by our Prof Chin Fun Kee – head of Engineering UM at that time one of the top uni in Asia. You must be using the bridge to know its condition. Why use the bridge if it full of jungle concrete and pylons and spoil the beauty of the island? .

Mike
Mike
22 Jun 2024 9.32am

ART at Putrajaya and JB, and why not in Penang ?

https://www.facebook.com/share/r/rgZskWXrS7U9EfYW/?mibextid=oFDknk

A Rakyat 8
28 Jun 2024 10.01am
Reply to  Mike

Am thinking, they should discard even ART and come up with a simpler mode of public transportation for Penang. Right now, the state seem to be acting like a child, who wants to have what other states ( in this case Selangor) are also having.

It should be about suitability. As you can see, our Pearly island is slowly taking shape in the form of concrete ” Frankenstein “.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uu1y2EDYIr4

shriek
shriek
2 Jul 2024 6.41pm
Reply to  A Rakyat 8

simpler transportation – look for your seniors who are bechah riders. AS a Senior, many of your contemporary are bechah riders. You can also promote bicycles – build bicycles built for 2. and saing dizzy dizzy

A Rakyat 8
4 Jul 2024 3.34pm
Reply to  shriek

The eastern coastal stretch of the island, has on one end – factories, on the other end – heritage building, in between lots and lots of modern looking pigeon hole concrete building, for modern humans to live, with some building jutting out into the sea.

Next to the concrete bridge, they now have weird concrete pylons to hold electric cables and to top it off, the state is going to have more concrete pillars or support beams for a transportation project called LRT.

A Rakyat 8
6 Jul 2024 11.46am
Reply to  shriek

And then, more concrete pillars and cable wires running up the Penang hill, competing with natures green trees and landscape.

They are trying to cram as much as possible, concrete, mortar, bricks and tar into a small turtle shaped box of an island called Penang.

shriek
shriek
8 Jul 2024 7.35pm
Reply to  A Rakyat 8

Rakyat – without cables and towers, you dont have INTERNET and No INternet you cant kbkb here. Without pillars, you dont have hand or smart phones which also connects you to internet….

glissantia
glissantia
10 Jul 2024 1.25pm
Reply to  A Rakyat 8

Logging, gouging hills and mountains, concrete, asphalt, smoking factories, shoddy buildings and goods, trash dumped by the cheapest contractors in the cheapest way, poisonous food and water. We call this development.

luca
luca
15 Jul 2024 9.24pm

China’s Driverless Capsule Sky Train in Wuhan

A Rakyat 8
14 Jul 2024 10.18am

” Cliff shuttle trains to offer unmatched travel experience in east China ”  
dd 13 Jul 2024 9:20:25 PM

https://www.thestartv.com/v/cliff-shuttle-trains-to-offer-unmatched-travel-experience-in-east-china

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If they were to have a project for this sort of rail shuttle service, say trip around Penang island passing through scenic spots, like the eastern corridor concrete jungle, passing PIA, pass Balik Pulau, have some world famous durians along the way, then onwards to, etc etc etc, for the benefit of the local and foreign tourist. Good or not ?

A Rakyat 8
14 Jul 2024 10.18am

Will our tiny little island be suitable for such a project or not ? This rail service seem to have green ugly metal pylons sticking out from the ground wherever required. 

Oops, forgot about funding. Will the state have money for such a project or not, or MOT, MOF and its subsidiary will have to be involved ?

What about 100% private undertaking ? Can also or not?

Will the local Environmentalist, Civic groups, NGO’s and Activists protest or not? Most importantly, what will our local critic, the annoying shriek, will say ?

luca
luca
5 Jul 2024 10.23am

Mara Inc on shaky financial footing, A-G’s report says
https://youtube.com/watch?si=91Z3S-Wx0jmmy4tr&v=7mQz9m4Axxc&feature=youtu.be
Mara Inc needs to review its objectives and the implementation of its core property management activities, says the national audit department.

A Rakyat 8
29 Jun 2024 11.41am

” PAS can never come to power on its own, says Dr M ” by Nicholas Chung dd 29 Jun 2024, 08:30 AM https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/nation/2024/06/29/pas-can-never-come-to-power-on-its-own-says-dr-m/ ======== Indeed so, unofficial adviser to the four PAS-led state governments. We Rakyat are aware of it. Being their unofficial adviser, could also be the reason why PAS suddenly came out with the ” PAS For All ” slogan. But then, as we all know, PAS will always be PAS.  If at all there is a show of some change, it could be pretentious and temporary, until it got what it wanted. PAS is a religious group. It cannot change… Read more »

shriek
shriek
7 Jul 2024 6.48pm
Reply to  A Rakyat 8

Rakyat 8, you clueless as to why PAS for all win the Sg Bakap Election? Curry and mutton does not work and same with char siew pau. yet they win by bigger margin.

A Rakyat 8
29 Jun 2024 11.41am

“Malaysia just needs growth, not a new ‘vision’”

>>> Sorry, but Malaysia needs both and quite a bit of changes. There don’t seem to be any systematic approach to the goals for vision, for growth and for changes.

Meantime, what is happening to the SG4 initiative for the 4 PAS governing states? So far, nothing has been said about it. Is it shelved ?

shriek
shriek
5 Jul 2024 6.32pm
Reply to  A Rakyat 8

rakyat 8 you talk BIG! What kind of growth and vision you envisage for Penang? If you dont reply here, you are simply CLUELESS.

A Rakyat 8
28 Jun 2024 12.01pm

I would describe the bad transport planning by state leaders as irresponsible, short-sighted, and detrimental to the well-being of the Rakyat, but more importantly the well being our Pearl island and its eco-system.

Why so hell bent on wanting to go for LRT when the function of LRT at the end of the day is going to be no different from the Bus transportation system.

shriek
shriek
2 Jul 2024 6.43pm
Reply to  A Rakyat 8

Now you start to kbkb soo many years after Penang Transport Report is carried out and plans to sell 3 islands as part of the LRT plan. Why you nod nod and now more than senget – gostan.

A Rakyat 8
4 Jul 2024 12.57am
Reply to  shriek

The joke is, this plan has been going on for so many years and they keep changing the plans and specs. They were even talking about building an underground LRT station in the middle of Georgetown (he,he).

State said before end of 2023 project will start. But did not start. Now Federal/MOF has taken over, says before end of 2024 will start the project. Got money or not, you think?

Before project est. at 10 billion or so. Now with diesel subsidy
removed ?

shriek
shriek
7 Jul 2024 6.51pm
Reply to  A Rakyat 8

rakyat 8 – you are the only who is real clueless. show us they changed to underground station. the project delivery partner is gamuda. as you are a real senior, underground to you is nearer.

A Rakyat 8
8 Jul 2024 2.47pm
Reply to  shriek

You are right. As an old, old senior, one leg is nearer to the underground and one leg is still on the top ground. It is just a matter of time only.

Meantime, your reading skills and understanding what you read is still poor. The message your mind receives from reading still misses ‘ a beat or two’ hence, ” show us they changed to underground station “

Read my comment again. I said they were talking about it, not changed to. It was last year or the year before.

Maurice
Maurice
4 Jul 2024 1.59pm
Reply to  shriek

Silicon island is actually a good idea now that many IT giants are investing in Malaysia for semi conductor industry. So DAP government has the vision right.

shriek
shriek
5 Jul 2024 6.34pm
Reply to  Maurice

Let what Rakyat has to say? Or he is clueless. He talks growth and vision but in his mind is all white and blank

A Rakyat 8
6 Jul 2024 6.13pm
Reply to  shriek

” Let what Rakyat has to say? “. Strange, why put a question mark at the end of the sentence? What does it mean ? My white and blank mind has now turned grey and cloudy. 

My mind is asking, what kind of hypocrisy is this? Where is the critical analysis of the Penang LRT project that he was so boldly questioning with another reader earlier?

A Rakyat 8
6 Jul 2024 10.35am
Reply to  Maurice

Vision, maybe. But in a state where there is now limited resources for example, land and water, is it advisable to approve more and more factories to be build.

No more land available, so push out the coastal fishermen and their families for coastal land reclamation to build more factories. Is this visionary?

Diverting precious water meant for residences, to supply to or sharing with factories. Are all this sustainable ?

shriek
shriek
9 Jul 2024 6.20pm
Reply to  A Rakyat 8

rakyat 8 – you admire sink apor and as a small island, they have been building factories, high rise flats, shopping centres and financial centres. they push out fishermen and made them do the industrial fishing using, ChatGPT, AI, drone, satellites whereas Penang fishing just like you – dinosaur system

A Rakyat 8
11 Jul 2024 8.31pm
Reply to  shriek

Dinosaur or traditional system still alright. There will be food to eat, clean water to drink, clean air to breath, green hills, white sandy beaches, less cars, more bicycles – an idyllic life, etc. These are things that the Singaporeans can only dream of.

A Rakyat 8
6 Jul 2024 10.54am
Reply to  Maurice

Selangor and Penang state are govern by the same group of political parties. Selangor has much much more land than Penang.

Why keep cramming more and more factories here, more and more unsustainable developments, where there is a shortage of land and water to the extend of displacing locals (fisher folks) of fishing activities, their livelihood and water issues at the southern end of our Mainland.

shriek
shriek
14 Jul 2024 7.00pm
Reply to  A Rakyat 8

rakyat – go and find about zoning and rezoning, land use and town planning. Try to built above certain height in Penang Hills

A Rakyat 8
6 Jul 2024 10.58am
Reply to  Maurice

Is this what they meant when they promised during the many past and recent elections, where they said they will govern the state for the welfare and the well being of the locals, in general, our Rakyat.

Verasamy
Verasamy
15 Jul 2024 7.26pm
Reply to  Maurice

Certainly better than Forest City.
Penang needs high tech investment.

A Rakyat 8
24 Jun 2024 12.01am

” We talk to PAS leaders only on govt matters, says Loke ”
Ho Kit Yen dd 23 Jun 2024, 09:00 PM

https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/nation/2024/06/23/we-talk-to-pas-leaders-only-on-govt-matters-says-loke/

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>>> Since when have they ever been straight with their answers or statements.  

https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2024/06/23/pas-will-not-join-unity-government-says-tuan-ibrahim

>>> While one PAS leader outright denies it, “”There are no negotiations, no discussions, no internal party meetings or anything of the sort,” Sinar Harian quoted him as saying.”

Walid
Walid
26 Jun 2024 7.01pm
Reply to  A Rakyat 8

Why talk out of topic?
Swe are discussing about LRT vs ART, not PKR vs PAS.

A Rakyat 8
27 Jun 2024 4.09pm
Reply to  Walid

Was expecting shriek to say something. But never mind. See the heading above. It says ‘Society’ n ‘Public Transport’. 

Society simply means a complex and dynamic system of organization that involves groups people living together sharing common interests, values, and customs, collaborating and interacting with one another.

A Rakyat 8
27 Jun 2024 4.16pm
Reply to  Walid

It also includes social institutions such as government, education, family, and economy, as well as cultural practices and traditions.

Society plays a crucial role in shaping individual identity, opportunities, and well-being. And of course, in a living society there is also public transport.

So, Walid other than finding fault, what is your opinion on
LRT vs ART?

shriek
shriek
1 Jul 2024 6.54pm
Reply to  A Rakyat 8

Rakyat, how you passed your Senior Cambridge? Kopi or licence? Here is about society related to LRT not PAS joining PH. You meant PAS riding on LRT to join PH? Penang LRT unable to smell let alone see.

A Rakyat 8
2 Jul 2024 2.33pm
Reply to  shriek

Well, because the word society is there, it could also mean society in general and transport in particular.

And since transport is the subject of importance in this article, why are you and Walid wasting your time talking about, why I write this and that other than transport matter, when the both of you should be focusing on transport, in particular LRT vs ART, giving detailed opinions of yours, about which mode of transport is better for the island.

Maurice
Maurice
4 Jul 2024 2.22pm
Reply to  shriek

Ramasamy is making lots of noises even in Sungai Bakap by-election. Sour grapes. Any comment?

A Rakyat 8
24 Jun 2024 12.00am

https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2024/06/23/pas-not-breaking-away-from-perikatan-says-takiyuddin

 >>> Another PAS leader says , ” “The ‘negotiations’ mentioned by the minister (Fahmi) – especially between the mentris besar of PAS-led states and the Prime Minister – are normal negotiations related to the administration of states and the federal government.”

A Rakyat 8
23 Jun 2024 11.59pm

Only, we Rakyat will not know what kind of “normal negotiations ” they actually are. So, why is the government interested in pulling in PAS into their coalition?   What is PN- Bersatu and Gerakan’s opinion in all this ? Do they know what is going on with one of their coalition member PAS? PN- Bersatu and Gerakan don’t govern any states. PAS does – all 4 opposition states and the MBs are all from PAS. PAS has over 40 seats and a near total support from the majority group. That’s how weak Bersatu and Gerakan is in the Opposition coalition. On top of that Bersatu has six… Read more »

Bazil
Bazil
25 Jun 2024 8.38pm
Reply to  A Rakyat 8

“pulling in PAS into their coalition?”
What is the source of your information?
Beware of fake news.

A Rakyat 8
27 Jun 2024 4.36pm
Reply to  Bazil

What fake news, bazil? Its all over the news media. While one party says they are talking about it, one member of the Opposition party say yes and another member of the same opposition party says no.

They are politicians. They say and do this sort of things all the time.

If this is suppose to be some sort of a sensitive thing, don’t come out and talk about it in public or to the news media.

What does ” A grain of truth” mean ?

shriek
shriek
29 Jun 2024 6.31pm
Reply to  A Rakyat 8

his source is always cut here and paste there. senget here and senget there. semua pun boleh semua pun taroh

A Rakyat 8
4 Jul 2024 1.57am
Reply to  shriek

These people can’t think or maybe do not know how to write their opinions on the transport issue which in this case is LRT or ART, so next best thing, become envious busybodies. Taroh correct, shriek?, you’re also included.

Zack
Zack
23 Jun 2024 1.14pm

Penang is not building but LRT.
Many people are confused between the two. LRT suits Penang population growth. In time to come Penangites will be thankful for the LRT as petrol subsidy could be removed just like what has happened to diesel.

A Rakyat 8
22 Jun 2024 3.21pm

” PAS joining coalition govt? Fahmi says there are ‘a lot of discussions’ ” by SAN & NFG dd  Jun 22, 2024 11:51 AM https://www.malaysiakini.com/news/709482 ======== Yes, some of us are aware of it. Its been going on for quite some time now. Certain events that have been taking place for quite awhile now did not fit the pattern unless some form of talks and agreements have been taking place between the 2 behind the scene. It is like PAS agrees to certain proposals with the condition that, whats in it for PAS and the state of Kelantan and the other states under its governance.… Read more »

A Rakyat 8
22 Jun 2024 3.21pm

This sort of behind the scene arrangement is good enough for PAS already, for the ruling party to fulfil PAS’s wishes.

Join the ruling party and PAS may end up being restricted and to some extent controlled.

The suspicion about the 2 collaborating behind the scene was there. It has just been confirmed.

Know that, “Absolute Power Corrupts Absolutely” Clueless supporters of ruling coalition will not understand these. Why, because they are clueless.

Eu Soon
Eu Soon
1 Jul 2024 12.59pm
Reply to  A Rakyat 8

PAS leaders are said to be ISO certified. Meaning they are endorsed by European Union?

A Rakyat 8
2 Jul 2024 2.53pm
Reply to  Eu Soon

Well, later PAS came to realize their mistake. Someone must have explain to them what ISO certified means.

But the fact that they brought it up in the first place as an academic qualification says a lot about how much they understand about what are academic qualifications.

It also raises questions about their discernment and critical thinking skills.

shriek
shriek
4 Jul 2024 9.43pm
Reply to  A Rakyat 8

where is eng soon the gerak man used to kbkb when gilakan used to be in powder?

A Rakyat 8
6 Jul 2024 6.47pm
Reply to  shriek

What does ‘gerak man’ mean? Is it the 11,000 year old ‘Perak Man’ ? He has got a name now? Eng Soon?

And what does ‘ gilakan use to be in powder ‘ mean? Is it some kind ingredient that was used to mix in some kind of powder ? How is this all connected to Perak man?

And earlier you said we are suppose to be talk about LRT project. What has gerak man or Perak man, gilakan and powder got to do with Penang transportation and LRT ?

A Rakyat 8
22 Jun 2024 1.41pm

“31 eateries in Perak ordered to close as of May” dd Saturday, 22 Jun 202410:52 AM MYT

https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2024/06/22/31-eateries-in-perak-ordered-to-close-as-of-may

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Do we in the state of Penang have such constant inspection at eateries or not. Thats’ some serious work taking place over there in Ipoh. Here we hear about new factories, meetings etc and durian sessions after that.

luca
luca
27 Jun 2024 1.08pm
Reply to  A Rakyat 8

Speaking of food hygiene, here is the famous quote from tunglang (20 Feb 2011 1.06pm anilnetto.com):
“My heavenly street hawker cuisine must come from the ori-maestros who are not the superlicious squeaky-slippery-cleanliness obsessed. Otherwise, nothing will do for my Tham Chiak Kui in me.”

A Rakyat 8
28 Jun 2024 9.48am
Reply to  luca

Would Tunglang have accepted improperly washed cooking utensils, eating plates, fork, spoons and chop sticks with remnants of oily grease and food sticking to them as part of the added flavor to a delicious cooked food to excite the ” Tham Chiak Kui in me “? 
 
Well Luca, What do you think? 

Eu Soon
Eu Soon
1 Jul 2024 12.58pm
Reply to  A Rakyat 8

You have actually offended tunglang. Perhaps this could bring tunglang back to anilverse to clarify his stand!

A Rakyat 8
2 Jul 2024 3.10pm
Reply to  Eu Soon

No, its simply a question to tickle his mind. And he is a nice n helpful person. He helped to request to Anil to increase the number of letters or words from I think 500 to 1000 for the comment column.

Yes, it would be good to have tunglung back. Am sure most of you will be happy to have him on board, instead of having to deal with shriek and his senget replies but sometimes he is entertaining like in the comical shows.

A Rakyat 8
6 Jul 2024 6.52pm
Reply to  A Rakyat 8

 but sometimes he is entertaining like in the comical shows” In this sentence I was referring to shirek.

shriek
shriek
7 Jul 2024 7.14pm
Reply to  A Rakyat 8

You dont know Tun lang has a deep ego? When Anil did not publish or edit some of his comments, he quit. He banish himself. Anil orso edit and sometimes did not publish my comments. Tun lang has his blog. You can make your marks there and senget or gostan whatever you want.

A Rakyat 8
2 Jul 2024 3.30pm
Reply to  Eu Soon

Some of tunglung’s comments are also insightful, interesting to read. 

luca
luca
6 Jul 2024 12.48pm
Reply to  A Rakyat 8

Anil should invite tunglang back.
Bring back the jolly good times.
Tunglang can emerge from the self-imposed exile.
Cheers Kopi kaw kaw!

Inch
Inch
7 Jul 2024 8.04pm
Reply to  Anil Netto

Anil must promise less censorship, allows freedom of expression.

A Rakyat 8
7 Jul 2024 3.31pm
Reply to  luca

This was requested before – last year and I think the year before that too. Anil welcomed him back with open arms, both times.

But Tunglang must be happy, doing something interesting in his ‘self-imposed exile’.

Shriek must be happy too.

shriek
shriek
14 Jul 2024 7.09pm
Reply to  A Rakyat 8

you must be very sad but you can ty to visit and write like here in his blog. you can write as much as i will not interfere when you write there

Lord Tham
Lord Tham
6 Jul 2024 6.12pm
Reply to  A Rakyat 8

Time to forgive and forget to move on.
Anil and tunglang are symbiotic. Anil provide the platform and tunglang provides the colourful content. The readers want them to reconcile for old time sake. Life is too short to bicker over trivial matters!

shriek
shriek
7 Jul 2024 7.21pm
Reply to  A Rakyat 8

tun lang claims to love the nature but drive round in his 4wd looking for cheapest one ton mee. Gomen subsides cheap petrol for rich to drive around in circle whereas no subsides for those who are poor. Why need a 4 WD in the polluting and smog city and only goes to Belum once in a blue moon. Just like [celebrities] who flies to and fro in private jet when airlines are trying to reduce carbon foot prints?

shriek
shriek
2 Jul 2024 6.54pm
Reply to  Eu Soon

Rakyat is trying make Trinity into Fantastic Four – raising back Tun lang to life. – resurrection?

luca
luca
3 Jul 2024 9.32am
Reply to  A Rakyat 8

Watch this tribute to tribute to Penang street food.
https://youtube.com/watch?si=CIqg6erwd3Aee4Tp&v=YrXW0B5qgHc&feature=youtu.be
“Malaysians don’t care where they eat, so long as the food is good”.

A Rakyat 8
4 Jul 2024 3.02pm
Reply to  luca

Greasy drains with rats running around, plates, cooking utensil, spoons and chop sticks stacked next to it for washing, uncooked food also stacked next to it for washing and with flies all over, sure if certain segment of Penang people do not care where they eat and are happy with it, let it be so.

But when get sneered at or referred to certain names, or get diseased, or have mental issues, should also accept it with open arms.

shriek
shriek
8 Jul 2024 7.41pm
Reply to  A Rakyat 8

rakyat, this one you talk sense. I fully support you. there must be some sense of cleanliness. today, disease spread easily and virus evolved unlike in the past

glissantia
glissantia
29 Jun 2024 12.20pm
Reply to  luca

Maybe he was lucky to never contract typhoid. One of my colleagues was unlucky.

A Rakyat 8
4 Jul 2024 3.16pm
Reply to  glissantia

Lucky ? Maybe. But never contracting any kind of disease in the course of time while eating unhygienic food, or in a unhygienic place, or both, is not possible. Its just a matter of time before it happens.

Bacteria and viruses are everywhere. Food poisonings seems to have become common even when some groups are said to be following certain standards.

Gerry H
Gerry H
6 Jul 2024 6.19pm
Reply to  glissantia

From young exposed to such environment can build up immunity.

A Rakyat 8
7 Jul 2024 3.09pm
Reply to  Gerry H

In the sixties, seventies and before, maybe yes. But not quite possible in the current age. The current environment is such that the human body has become corrupted, contaminated, polluted and weak.

Hospitals are packed with people seeking help. People are dying even in their young youthful age, etc.

shriek
shriek
14 Jul 2024 7.12pm
Reply to  A Rakyat 8

you are clueless. they die young due to sitting all the time, drink sugary food and drinks, process and salty food and saturated food

88 Rail Linesmen
20 Jun 2024 5.04pm

Is the LRT rail support Infrastructure similar to the RTS rail Link from Johor Bahru to Singapore?

A Rakyat 8
4 Jul 2024 3.46pm

“Estimated infrastructure cost of RTS Link project up 29.9% to RM5.24bil”
by Bernama dd 04 Jul 2024, 01:38 PM

https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/nation/2024/07/04/estimated-infrastructure-cost-of-rts-link-project-up-29-9-to-rm5-24bil/

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For Penang LRT project, 10 billion for 1st stage will not do anymore due to increase in diesel prices. Lets see what will be the latest figure they are going to throw back at our Rakyat?