RUU355 rally and Bebas counter rally

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This is the scene at Padang Merbok, where some 50,000 are attending a rally in support of Hadi’s bill.

Mind you, this is without any obstacles, roadblocks or threats of arrest. (And so can have a fair idea of how many people Pas could contribute to a Bersih rally.) This is more or less the number of supporters Pas could pack into a stadium in say, Kelantan and Terengganu.

Indeed, the numbers appear well short of Hadi’s prediction of a 200,000 turnout – and it is hardly a ringing nationwide endorsement of his bill. My good friend, Tasik Gelugor Pas information chief Abdul Rahman Kasim, was more guarded, forecasting 100,000 ahead of the rally. As friends, we have had frank exchanges – and strong differences of views – over whether Hadi’s bill is suitable for a diverse, multireligious society like ours. But no hard feelings.

Meanwhile, some 200 gathered for the Bebas counter rally at Taman Jaya. Among those addressing the crowd was Haris Ibrahim.

Anyway, it is good that the authorities have respected the right of both sides to gather peacefully and air their views at different venues.

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Terry
Terry
11 Mar 2017 11.59am

Chinese Buddhist whipped under Acheh’s Hudud law:
http://www.orientaldaily.com.my/international/g025203089106

Mark
Mark
2 Mar 2017 4.46pm

The issue is made more complicated but the fact that this is more political than religious. Putting aside PAS’ ambition to see this through, the bill is an obvious affirmation of the party’s own religious credentials. In the current climate, this helps to regain the trust of its core supporters, which also explains why UMNO has jumped on the bill’s bandwagon. It helps UMNO to bolster its image at a time when the administration has suffered a dip in popularity. The timing of this issue is also convenient, as elections are due to be held latest by next year. As… Read more »

tunglang
tunglang
20 Feb 2017 7.58am

‘Muslims don’t need this right now’ http://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2017/02/19/muslims-dont-need-this-right-now/ PERLIS Mufti Datuk Dr Asri Zainul Abidin spoke bluntly at a recent forum on religion. “Gossiping is a big sin in Islam but are there (syariah) laws against gossiping? Do you see the religious authorities sending officers out to haul up those who gossip?’’ He points out that while some things are haram (forbidden) and sinful in Islam, that does not mean that Allah demands for all of these to be punished in a court of law. In the case of adultery, for example, he says, if there are only three witnesses of… Read more »

Fyi
Fyi
22 Feb 2017 11.18am
Reply to  tunglang

The former Grand Mufti of Egypt, Sheikh Ali Gomaa, had to argue why Egypt, home to the prestigious Al-Azhar University, had not implemented the hudud punishments in the last thousand years. To him, this contemporary era was one of shubhat, which effectively rendered hudud stipulations inoperable. Many do not realise that even the very concept of thieving in the Qur’an (referenced through the use of the term Sariq) raises doubt on what constitute an offence to invite such punishment, be it the frequency of the act of theft or the amount stolen. It is for this reason that the different… Read more »

Tee Kor Liang
Tee Kor Liang
19 Feb 2017 3.47pm

Johor’s Old Temple 5 deities procession on Friday attracted 400,000 crowd, far more than this PAS event.

rajraman666
rajraman666
19 Feb 2017 1.53pm

Mark,
Just for Political gains Political Traders will sell their saliva.PAS under HADI can’t be tamed.He just think about his mission to spread [alleged] lies.

rajraman.Meanwhile Nik Aziz son visit church just to cover up their extremist view.By visiting church or even Deity shrine do not mean they will gave up their extremist view.
It’s just another Political Play by Political Traders.This Political Traders acting much better than movie star.Anyway Ah MO1 openly ‘sleeping’ with HADI in the name of MALAY UNITY NOT MALAYSIAN UNITY.

veloo
veloo
3 Mar 2017 11.38am
Reply to  rajraman666

PAS made u turn after the death of Nik Aziz.

Mark Fung
Mark Fung
19 Feb 2017 10.19am

Kajian Invoke Mendapati 40% Ahli Pas Akan Mengundi Parti Lain
https://youtube.com/watch?v=nWY8o9LV25g

Is PAS going to be a ‘kingmaker’ in GE14?

Bigjoe
Bigjoe
19 Feb 2017 9.52am

They failed their own target, called it a success and want everyone else to shut up. And the left believe there is hope of real change. The delusion is on both sides

Bigjoe
Bigjoe
19 Feb 2017 4.21am

Failures in religious crusades does NOTHING to stop them. 50,000 vs 200 is not even an adult conversation.

32% of Malays in Selangor think Hadi Awang should lead the opposition WHEN HE IS NOT. That is 32% too many supporters in what is a developed state. For PH to retain Selangor, Amanah has to win, not just DAP and wobbly PKR.

Awang Selamat Ori
Awang Selamat Ori
18 Feb 2017 5.26pm

Perkasa President Ibrahim Ali said,quote ” PAS is a political party whose leaders are stupid!”,unquote”.

What is the purpose of this? Enhance the syariah law?

What is the punishment for corruption? In PAS?

The sad thing is the followers are blind to the wrong doings of their leaders in the name of religion. Can’t they see this rally has got nothing to do with religion?

Ronald
Ronald
18 Feb 2017 5.12pm

Hadi Awang is the most incompetent leader i have seen malaysian politics. He should have been removed the the moment Pas lost the Terenganu state government in the 2004 General election. In fact if he was the Private Sector a poor results getter like him would have been removed long time ago.

rajraman666
rajraman666
18 Feb 2017 3.31pm

Hadi promised Heaven.
Hadi works with MO1
HADI at one time said UMNO including UMNO member KAFIR.
200,000 Hadi said but turn up 3000?

rajraman.No wonder he lost Trengganu,Kedah and soon most state seats the next election.Maybe Kelantan MOI eyeing quitely.Is Hadi know how to counts? I also wondering is he really a Ulama? Is Hadi spoken the truth?
DECIDE with your OWN BRAIN, since HADI can brainwash you as the DEITY and MO1.

Mark Fung
Mark Fung
19 Feb 2017 10.28am
Reply to  rajraman666

For PAS, a working relationship with Bersatu would give it access to the latter’s election machinery in Johor and Kedah, two states where Bersatu is strong and PAS weak despite its numerous attempts at making inroads. PAS could conceivably also use Bersatu as a mediator in order to keep Amanah from contesting in its traditional strongholds in Kelantan and Terengganu. For Bersatu, the objectives are equally utilitarian – keep PAS away from UMNO while strengthening the opposition by bringing PAS back into its stable. To succeed, and given the trust deficit that exists between them, Bersatu would have to assume… Read more »