Thai top cop tells IGP to ‘use proper channels’; Is Najib now a lame-duck PM?

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The Bangkok Post reports:

Pol Gen Somyot advised his Malaysian counterpart Khalid Abu Bakar in talks at the Royal Thai Police Office that Malaysia must use the proper channels, including the Office of the Attorney-General and the Foreign Ministry, for information about Xavier Andre Justo because he is not a Malaysian national.

The police chief repeated Thailand’s position on no green light for Malaysian authorities to probe the Swiss man and reminded Mr Khalid that the police investigation into the case remained unfinished.

No luck there, I suppose. This is the second time in a week that the Malaysian authorities are trying to get access to Justo to determine if he should be extradited. The first unsuccessful attempt was on 16 July.

Meanwhile, is Najib now a lame-duck PM, in the same way that the Tunku was after May 13 and Abdullah Badawi after GE2008, before they stepped down (or were phased out, if you like)?

Clive Kessler, emeritus professor of sociology and anthropology at the University of NSW, seems to think so, according to this report in The Australian, which is worth a read.

(Najib) may be happy to hang on, under the face-saving condition that he won’t be able to do very much — but a stalled nation that desperately needs to get on with urgent and unforgiving business cannot afford to let him stay there”.

Inside the citadel of the rule of his embattled UMNO party, he hangs on, trying to tough it out — and dares his foes to come and dislodge him,” …

Malaysia’s economic strength and dynamism, as well as its political coherence, are just draining away.

Two key questions come to mind:

  • To what extent are the BN’s ‘fixed deposits’ in Sarawak and Sabah still safe – or have they been eroded?
  • How will Umno raise the considerable campaign financing it requires in the next general election, post-1MDB, given that its usual sources of patronage and financing seem to be drying up and the economic outlook appears bleak?

Anwar Ibrahim has written a piece for WSJ. I reproduce a couple of paras:

Still, there is real danger ahead. Middle-income nations like Malaysia—after several decades of economic mismanagement, opaque governance and overspending—can devolve into failed states. The irresponsible manner in which the current leadership is handling religious issues to curry favor from the extreme right is fueling sectarianism. Increased political repression may drive some to give up on the political system altogether and consider extralegal means to cause change, thus creating a tragic, vicious cycle.

Yet there remains a clear path out of this mess: a return to the underpinnings of the Malaysian Constitution, which preserves and protects the rights of all Malaysians; a devolution of power from the executive, whose role now resembles that of a dictator more than a servant of the people; elections that are truly free and fair; and a free media unafraid to challenge authority.

Malaysia is ready for change. This is why, rather than flee my country, I chose to stay and continue the fight for peaceful, democratic reform from my prison cell. …

Aliran for its part urges the authorities to counter whistleblowers’ allegations with evidence of their own instead of using repressive laws.

 

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owc
owc
28 Jul 2015 12.06pm

Tun Mahathir(Tun M)-Najib Razak’s Birthday
(I Hope He Retires Pleasantly And Enjoy Retirement)

gerak khas
gerak khas
28 Jul 2015 4.09pm
Reply to  owc

Najib responded by retiring his DPM Muhyiddin, who will heed Nelson’s advice to Balik Kampung Tanam Jaggung.

Najib will likely sign TPPA with USA when Obama next visit as USA has gave Najib a birthday gift by removing Malaysia from the human trafficking blacklist.

Alvin
Alvin
30 Jul 2015 3.44pm
Reply to  gerak khas

Najib is no lame duck if he could fire his deputy by simply nodding to him?
Najib will fire Muhyiddin again from Umno?

lim
lim
27 Jul 2015 2.02pm

Yes, Johan, when a country’s chief police was told off by another country to follow the rule of law …!!! He thinks the Thailand’s igp is just like him, full of … What a big shame !!!

Guys, please fasten your seat belts and buy more popcorns as the show has begun – Mr PM’s seat is rocking now as Mr DPM starts to (take potshots)…

The UK, the US, Singapore, etc are investigating 1MDB now… Where to hide ar, am scared…

Yang
Yang
27 Jul 2015 4.49pm
Reply to  lim

lim, Only dunggu like you say its told off. Its part of follow up and police procedure. Sure you will be scare cos many of the opposition will be arrested. Tong, Pua. Rafizi not so sure. Sure there will be many who will be charged for 1MDB. Many will also be charged for fraud, tampering and fabrication.. Check out and see who. Yes 1MDB will be investigated by Singapore, UK and US. Hold your pop corn tight and don`t get too emotional cos you may have a heart break when you see who will be charged. And then you will… Read more »

owc
owc
28 Jul 2015 12.14pm
Reply to  lim

Bolehkah Kita Percaya “Task Force” Menlaksanakan Siasatan Yang Bebas & Telus?

Ed G
Ed G
29 Jul 2015 11.10am
Reply to  owc

The former AG who was also a member of the task force, has been removed from his post just about 2 months prior to his official retirement which is due on Oct 6 this year. Health problem was cited as the reason. The former AG himself seemed to be surprise at the news of his unceremonious termination. What is the real reason for his termination is currently everyone’s guess since he was still healthy enough to express his surprise upon hearing the news. And what is the urgency in relieving him instead of letting him retire in two months’ time.… Read more »

Alvin
Alvin
30 Jul 2015 12.21pm
Reply to  owc

The task force leader has been rewarded by Najib to be in the cabinet. AG has been sacked 2 months before his retirement.
Is this a way to delay probe on 1MDB for Najib to buy more time?

Yi
Yi
27 Jul 2015 10.48am

(Malay Mail Online) – The three-month suspension of The Edge Weekly and the The Edge Financial Daily is fair and necessary for the government to establish the truth about its reports on the 1MDB controversy, said Barisan Nasional Backbenchers Club chief Tan Sri Shahrir Samad. He said the two publications have published reports which they claimed were the ‘truth’ in wanting to “expose someone who wants to cheat the country of US$1.83 billion (RM7 billion)”. “So much has been written and said. So many accusations were made. But twho are they to say what they have published is the truth?”… Read more »

gerak khas
gerak khas
27 Jul 2015 1.35pm
Reply to  Yi

DAP today asked if the Cabinet meeting tomorrow will support Deputy Prime Minister Tan Sri Muhyiddin Yassin’s proposal to release publicly the auditor-general’s interim report on troubled 1Malaysia Development Berhad (1MDB).

DAP parliamentary leader Lim Kit Siang said he was also “shocked” over Muhyiddin’s admission that he had to depend on suspended business publications, The Edge Financial Daily and The Edge Weekly, for information on 1MDB.

Muhyiddin also said he was rebuked by his fellow ministers for relying on The Edge reports to understand the scandal.

Yang
Yang
27 Jul 2015 4.56pm
Reply to  gerak khas

CAT senior LKS now want to court with the devil now considered as God sent to save the country. Ten years he courted PAS Hadi but Hadi could not shiok him enough to feel heaven. Hopefully Mahathir, Razaleigh, Musa and now Muhyiddin can do the job but I think CAT senior will feel very disappointed. He just not understand that there are senile old guy. How can they really shiok him like the magic dragon to feel heavenly. Gerak Khas, you will also be very disappointed.

Yang
Yang
27 Jul 2015 5.03pm
Reply to  gerak khas

Latest information
http://www.malaysiakini.com/news/306311

Kiandee weighs in, says no to 1MDB audit release
The auditor-general’s report has been handed to the Public Accounts Committee (PAC), therefore it become part of the evidence.

zoro
zoro
27 Jul 2015 9.04pm
Reply to  gerak khas

Everyone has self interest even at the report. It is not the evidence. The supposed evidence is from justo

Yang
Yang
28 Jul 2015 11.20am
Reply to  gerak khas

Thats not important anymore. Today Mudyiddin go into oblivion

zoro
zoro
27 Jul 2015 9.37pm
Reply to  Yi

The edge, press freedom is to toe the line and be yes men. Worse, you play the role of judge and jury and now you ask for judicial review? What a dunggu you are. You should trust macc. Look all went well at Ah Hock’ s case. Rm2k is well taken. So what is billion? Sup sup sui.

owc
owc
28 Jul 2015 12.08pm
Reply to  Yi

Muhyiddin: PM should explain the facts on 1MDB

Abb
Abb
26 Jul 2015 8.47pm

Yang

For all your vigorous defence, only one question for your man

Did usd 700m flow into his personal account with ambank?
Yes or no! Thats all

As for imdb did usd 700m flow into goodstar ltd account?
Yes or no? Thats all?

Cut the chase on tampered documents. Simple answer to a simple question

iSupercally
iSupercally
27 Jul 2015 7.55am
Reply to  Abb

How much is not for Najib to say just like you do not have to answer how much you have or earned. LET the authorities investigate this allegations and it may come out to be false as shown by recent events that the Edge boss can mislead and cheat Justto of 2 million and the news could be tampered. I am interested in the finale that May see Pua, Rafix, Edge boss and a.host of others join the defaulto in Sg Buloh

gerak khas
gerak khas
27 Jul 2015 10.40am
Reply to  Abb

Malaysians have a right to know how 1MDB racked up RM42 billion in debts. We also have a right to an explanation about how RM2.67 billion found its way to the bank account of Prime Minister Najib Abdul Razak – where it came from and what he did with the money -issues which have been publicly raised and remain unanswered.

Yang
Yang
27 Jul 2015 11.52am
Reply to  gerak khas

Gerak Khas, Yes, Malaysian has the right to know. 1MDB is now being investigated by PAC, a Committee of which half are from the opposition including Pua. It will take time for an investigation. Its not a one or 2 days job. It take the govt 7 years to put Anwar in jail. Now what are you still babbling. Are you so afraid that the truth may come out that may implicate, Pua, Rafizia, the Edge Boss, Sarawak Report and a host of other opposition that they are in a conspiracy to fraud, tamper, fabricate and use stolen document to… Read more »

zoro
zoro
27 Jul 2015 9.00pm
Reply to  Abb

Well known many went into the lockup healthy but unable to come out. Dead men tell no lies.

johanssmKhunPana
johanssmKhunPana
26 Jul 2015 6.54pm

Another thing that i want to add.
Which have nothing to do with IMDB

Now, if our own police chief have to be told to use and to follow the proper rules&law.
What does this tells us?

lim
lim
26 Jul 2015 3.26pm

Mr IGP said he appreciates whistleblowers but they must whistle the corrupted deeds into his ear first, cannot go public one because like that no good la, cannot cari makan mah. Kak kak kak !!!

Malaysia is on the way to hell !!!

iSupercally
iSupercally
27 Jul 2015 7.57am
Reply to  lim

Dunggu that is the law that was passed in Parliament with the sHow hand of the opposition

Alvin
Alvin
26 Jul 2015 11.45am

Suspending The Edge Weekly and The Edge Financial Daily will only worsen the economy and lead to a loss of confidence in the country, anti-graft watchdog Transparency International Malaysia (TI-M) said.

gerak khas
gerak khas
27 Jul 2015 10.29am
Reply to  Alvin

Muhyiddin said:
“I myself also found it difficult to understand what was going on with 1MDB, and so much so that I had to read The Edge. People tell me The Edge reports were not correct. So tell me, what is correct,”

Yang
Yang
27 Jul 2015 12.01pm
Reply to  gerak khas

Its very hard for a document to be correct & truthful when through its trails its being (allegedly) stolen, fraud, cheated, fabricated and blackmail from the 1st side (Justo) to the middle side (Opposition Puo, laifiza, SR in Singapore) and the final side (Edge boss)

Throughout the trail you have (allegedly) steal & blackmail, then negotiate to sell and then in the process of that selling and negotiation you again have (allegedly) blackmail, cheating & misle

Alvin
Alvin
26 Jul 2015 11.42am

Banning publications is side-tracking from the real issues and will only make the people even more upset with the government, former minister Tan Sri Rafidah Aziz said, following the suspension of The Edge Financial Daily and The Edge Weekly. In a Facebook post, the former international trade and industry minister and Wanita Umno head said that the word “ban” should be deleted from the Malaysian “political vocabulary”. She said while freedom of speech must have parameters determined by factors such as decency, respect for the religious beliefs of others and rights of the majority, it was important that the media… Read more »

zoro
zoro
25 Jul 2015 5.09pm

P low and TA better quit your posts and allow supporters here to take over. Your silence means wrong things must be happening. Nizar you corporate boss to defend The Edge? You also better quit and allow the smart supporters here to take over. They are smarter especially you speak different from your brother.

Alvin
Alvin
26 Jul 2015 11.30am
Reply to  zoro

You are really a disgrace, totally doing no justice to the late Bernard Khoo of the Zorro Unmaskedfame, by spewing nonsense…!

zoro
zoro
26 Jul 2015 1.24pm
Reply to  Alvin

Alvin and his chipmunks start singing

henson
henson
25 Jul 2015 3.56pm

Rahman Dahlan the UMNO strategist has just executed RAHMAN prophecy ?

Are we next seeing DAHLAN prophecy with Daim taking over the reign ? Or may be Dzukifli Nordin ????

johanssmKhunPana
johanssmKhunPana
25 Jul 2015 3.37pm

Why our cops so eager to fly all the way to Krungthep without getting the all OK and official green light from the Thai side?
We have to pay for their flights , airport tax, ground arrangement, meals, hotel rooms, overseas allowance, telephone bills ,laundry and all their miscellaneous entertainment claims.
(will cost more if they visit Soi Cowboy and Nana)

While he and his subordinates are there, will they use the time to discuss more important issues such as Southern Thailand terrorist/firearms/drugs/immigrants trafficking.
I personally feel that our Malaysian government and the top cop are creating a drama.

Awie
Awie
26 Jul 2015 11.54am

IGP said whistleblowers must use the ‘proper channel’ to expose evidence against government cheats. But why should whitleblowers like The Edge and Sarawak Report trust these institutions like PDRM, SPRM, MCMC that are protecting the people they are exposing?

glissantia
glissantia
26 Jul 2015 2.49pm
Reply to  Awie

All democracies sing this tune about welcoming whistle-blowing through “proper channels”. The “greatest” democracy which is so busy preaching to others has silenced or locked up many whistleblowers, e.g. accountants, doctors, regulators, military officers, intelligence analysts, diplomats, legislators, NGO activists.

zoro
zoro
25 Jul 2015 1.40pm

We trust pm more than the edge paper. Business men dont read edge. Better read utusan and nst. Also cannot trust wsj after giving reply to pm’ lawyer. Pm very good and have many warlords speak and act for him. He dont need to do anything. £££€€€$$$ can do wonders

Alvin
Alvin
26 Jul 2015 3.53pm
Reply to  zoro

Kong song lampa song.

Alvin
Alvin
26 Jul 2015 4.05pm
Reply to  zoro

Not only is Putrajaya duty bound to protect Malaysia; so are all Malaysian institutions, including publications like the Edge. And it’s doing a fine job–better than Putrajaya. To suggest that there is a “possibility that the content of their reporting were not authentic” without showing proof is pronouncing guilt without evidence–an unacceptable excuse to persecute the innocent. Shall we ask the PM to step down because of the possibility that more than a billion ringgit has gone into his bank account illegally? Shall we also have the EC nullify GE13 because of the possibility that the same money had been… Read more »

Yang
Yang
27 Jul 2015 2.41pm
Reply to  Alvin

The Edge is not doing it for your or or us. They are doing for self interest. Do you know that the Edge Tong was one time crony of the defacto…

zoro
zoro
27 Jul 2015 8.51pm
Reply to  Alvin

Everyone has his own interest. Those who really take, bodek, opposite, slice of the cake, cover up and don’t forget there are those want to seek the truth. Simple question where did the money goes? We cant even get a straight forward answer from the horse. Now Lim Kwok wing’ job is still vacant. Why no takers? Blowing cow?

owc
owc
25 Jul 2015 11.20am

Oh Ei Sun, former political secretary to the Malaysian prime minister, says the delay in UMNO elections is an attempt to quell dissent within the party. He also tells Bloomberg TV Malaysia’s Sophie Kamaruddin how concerns over 1MDB are putting pressure on the ringgit:

gerak khas
gerak khas
25 Jul 2015 2.45pm
Reply to  owc

Pascal Najadi, the son of murdered AmBank founder Hussain Ahmad Najadi has hired lawyer Gobind Singh Deo to look into the police investigation into his father’s death.

The hired killer was apprehended, but like the murder of Altantuya, the motive of the murder has never been pursued by our Polis. More to come in these 2 murder cases, perhaps one common thread to be unveiled soon?

Yi
Yi
25 Jul 2015 10.28am

The Edge boss: We misled Justo to secure evidence http://www.malaysiakini.com/news/306026 The latest is the confession by The Edge and its owners that they were involved in a deal to buy stolen data from Xavier Andre Justo. They even confessed that they led Justo up the garden path and actually did not really intend to pay him the US$2 million that was agreed. Aren’t there any honest crooks left in this world any more?. How to believe a crook that they are here to expose the truth when they are the liar and cheater. Can we trust the Edge news article… Read more »

Awie
Awie
26 Jul 2015 11.55am
Reply to  Yi

Nothing wrong to use crook ways to nab the crooks!

iSupercally
iSupercally
27 Jul 2015 10.10am
Reply to  Awie

Since you are condoning crooks, I think you have forfeit yourself to talk about nabbing crook.

zoro
zoro
27 Jul 2015 9.47pm
Reply to  Awie

business men and economists are dunggu to subscribe and read for umptee years reading false and stolen material. We are dunggu just suing utusan and nst but not the edge. No one wants to be create history to be the first?

lim
lim
25 Jul 2015 12.29am

Yes, is igp the acting pm, a form 5 dropped out or form 3 ??? Ha ha ha !!!

In malaysia, we practise you help me i help you and our courts rule by umno’s laws, and we have all first
class self strangling lawyers.

We have no dignity and we know no shame. Laugh as hard and call us names as what we care is – billions in our accounts, tightly i cling !!!

iSupercally
iSupercally
25 Jul 2015 1.54pm
Reply to  lim

lim, you know what. You really talk like a dunggu

zorro
zorro
24 Jul 2015 10.55pm

We are waiting for ah jib khor… When will wsj be touched? Even a simple reply yes or no is not there

Phua Kai Lit
Phua Kai Lit
24 Jul 2015 9.52pm

The Doctor says there is no conspiracy against the 1PM.
It is all in the open 🙂

http://chedet.cc/?p=1811

Phua Kai Lit
Phua Kai Lit
24 Jul 2015 8.59pm

Mr Yang spinning like a super top ! 🙂

gerak khas
gerak khas
25 Jul 2015 2.30pm
Reply to  Phua Kai Lit

Gasing Yang, or Yang Ga Sing?

zoro
zoro
24 Jul 2015 7.14pm

Thai chief police. Don’t you know Malaysians love rojak. We do not follow proper channel. We change lanes as we like. Even the comments. Anil loves good rojak.

gerak khas
gerak khas
25 Jul 2015 2.35pm
Reply to  zoro

You should call yourself Zorojak, in order not to confuse people with the late Bernard, the true Zorro. Better trademark Zorojak before others assume it.

zoro
zoro
26 Jul 2015 1.39pm
Reply to  gerak khas

gerakan harapan in action. Can we have more please?

gerak khas
gerak khas
24 Jul 2015 5.39pm

Justo was arrested for blackmailibg Petro Saudi which is not a Malaysuan firm, so IGP should have no reason to interfere. IGP should instead spend time looking for Jho Low.

Yang
Yang
24 Jul 2015 4.50pm

Allow me one more short expression. If you did not pay me the expected 2 millions would you expect to get the real documents. Surely I would not be so stupid to hand over the (entire) real document if I did not get the CASH or money. So it look like whatever have been written and spewed by the Edge, Sarawak Report and opposition may just be a load of bull … and rubbish. Just like in the movie, Justo would not be that stupid. Edge boss, Sarawak report and the opposition thought they are smart. Now lets see who… Read more »

gerak khas
gerak khas
24 Jul 2015 6.25pm
Reply to  Yang

Since you have so much interest in this issue, why not you advise PM Najib to say a simple “yes” or “no” to claims in The Wall Street Journal that nearly US$700 million (RM2.6 billion) was channelled into his personal bank accounts, whether or not he use it for himself is a separate matter.

Yang
Yang
24 Jul 2015 4.32pm

Many people especially the oppositions & NGO are misleading Malaysians regarding Malaysia’s Whistleblower Protection Act 2010 (WPA). They argue that the media that publishes stolen data should be given protection under the WPA even if the data is stolen In other words, a crime committed to expose a crime is not a crime (and data theft is a serious crime in many countries all over the world). The WPA says that whistleblowers can provide evidence if it is “LEGALLY“ available through the course of their work. The catch phrase here is “`‘LEGALLY““ available through the course of their work’. That… Read more »

iSupercally
iSupercally
25 Jul 2015 10.49am
Reply to  Yang

Zaid Ibrahim, a staunt opposition has concurred that no protection to the Edge boss under the Whistleblower Act 2010. There should not be any argument on this issue.

Former Law Minister Datuk Zaid Ibrahim says the Whistleblower Protection Act 2010 is forfeited to any whistle-blower whose information is divulged to the media.
http://www.therakyatpost.com/news/2015/07/24/whistle-blowers-not-protected-if-information-shared-with-media-says-former-law-minister/

Yang
Yang
24 Jul 2015 4.22pm

Its another form of twist of words by the opposition media to create an impression that Khalid has been snubbed. Its nothing unusual considering that Justo is Swiss and has committed an act in Thailand. Police in the region will always co-operate within the ambit of the law. But then it is not the case with the opposition, Edge & Financial daily which have been suspended. The Edge boss: We misled Justo to secure evidence. http://www.malaysiakini.com/news/306026 They not only misled, they also (allegedly) cheated on their bargain of 2 million which they did not pay to Justo. He misled and… Read more »

gerak khas
gerak khas
24 Jul 2015 6.00pm
Reply to  Yang

BN’s crackdown on the media and opposing views widened today, as the home ministry suspended the publishing permit of The Edge Weekly and The Edge Financial Daily for three months over their reporting of analleged graft scandal. Sign of desperation by Najib to enforce his defensive arguments via TV3, Utusan and NST?

zoro
zoro
27 Jul 2015 10.39pm
Reply to  gerak khas

Lim, the edge cheat you? If yes go and sue the edge. Justo has the right to sue the edge. If no action, why want to play smart to be Kei poh chee? Why no action is taken on datuk t showing blue film with public awareness of another datuk Seri having fun with a professional from china? Semua okay’ semua pun boleh

iSupercally
iSupercally
24 Jul 2015 2.56pm

Najib said .you ain’t seen nothing.yet

zoro
zoro
26 Jul 2015 1.30pm
Reply to  iSupercally

Lim kwok wing of creative uni has resigned. Ah jib khor has no problem to get replacement. £€$¥ is there. Here plenty of candidates to @^•+ #& to perform resurrection. God save the … pm

ktwong87
24 Jul 2015 2.45pm

While the IGP kena the “use proper channels” snub, Nirmal Ghosh of the Straits Times SIngapore managed to get great access to Justo, including access to his 22 page confession. Sign that our nieghbours are distancing themselves from Najib, ever more openly treating him a like an international … ? If not for the TPPA, how will Obama act when he drops by again?

Ed G
Ed G
26 Jul 2015 5.54pm
Reply to  ktwong87

Isn’t it peculiar that a foreign press was allowed to interview a person who is still under detention? By allowing the ST to interview Justo and publish its contents, would it not undermine the course of the investigation? I can’t think of any other reason for giving consent for this interview other than to allow some controlled or filtered information to flow into the public realm. Otherwise, they (the Thai police) can just release Justo on bail and allow him to peak with anyone he wishes.