Buah Pala villagers miss noon deadline

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1300: Kampung Buah Pala residents have not met a noon deadline to accept a compensation offer by Nusmetro, according to a contact at the scene.

In a just concluded press conference, they expressed anxiety over the conditions attached to the offer. They claimed that Nusmetro’s offer itself was illegal as the temporary title to the land in the Koperasi’s name prohibited any transaction.

They also said that the offer of cluster houses was dependent on the developer securing all necessary approvals from the relevant authorities, and there was no guarantee that it could. No buyer in a normal property development project would accept such a condition, they argued.

They were also unhappy at being asked to drop all legal suits.

They pointed out there were 65 families in the village and only 24 cluster homes were offered.

The press conference was held at noon, the deadline given by Nusmetro for the villagers to accept the offer. Earlier, the developer had warned in a letter that it would execute the writ of possession if the residents failed to leave the village by noon.

The villagers had faxed a letter to the Chief Minister yesterday asking for more time to consider the offer. They only received the detailed house drawings after 5.00pm yesterday.

Meanwhile, a small group from Pas, including Kota Bharu MP Wan Rahim Wan Abdullah, visited the villagers yesterday evening.

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y

Morning Dew, I am not interested to know your race, law apply to every race in malaysia. strange ruling?? It is normal in Malaysia, It is notmal to have strange ruling in boleh land, but we still have to comply. Moraly correct have no stand in Law. They should gather evidence first before go to court. “The penang government could actually revoked all deals as the penang government DO NOT OWN THE LAND – this much we know as well. ” This is the funniest statement……You should really ask yourself “how could penang government revoked a land that someone claim… Read more »

kakipulau

It appears to be the norm that the poor and those deemed powerless are simply pushed aside although they have made positive economic contribution to those raking in the benefits to fund their cushy air-conditioned offices and padded leather revolving office chairs, including those in government. To the person who seems to have missed the link between having “worked their butts off” and ownership of the land, perhaps you have also missed the point that work and cattle breeding is an economic activity that contributes to the local GDP. and adds value to the land. In all the furore about… Read more »

Jessica

I think those who label the villagers greedy are missing the point. As I see it, the question is certainty. Correct me if I am wrong, but Nusmetro has already pointed out that the deal is subject to obtaining the relevant approvals. If for any reason the approvals are not obtained, then the deal is off. By that time, the villagers would have moved out, their homes would have been demolished. What then? I have seen cases where settlement agreements have been entered into, people have moved out, houses been demolished, no money given for temporary rental, and at the… Read more »

banana

nkkhoo, Since you are attacking LBC on his/her lack of comprehension skills, perhaps you might want to re-examine your maths/logic? You mentioned “if someone steals your RM10 million land passed down by your ancestor and then pay you RM200,000 peanut compensation”. Firstly, we have no way of establishing that the value of the land is RM10 million or some other figure. Some many numbers have been bandied about I am now confused as to what is the current value of the land now. Secondly, for the sake of argument that the land is worth RM10million; this is for the entire… Read more »

Siew

fickle minded bunch of villagers. have already agreed and accepted but keeping asking for more. the moment someone from mic say something to them they change their mind. the moment hindraf say something to them they change their mind. all this … started by the ex-govt and yet some people in here try to implicate the current govt….. you dont heap … at people just cos they didnt meet your demand. if any leader can just revoke the land they like then the bn govt shud not have sold this piece of land to the cooperative. people support and sympathy… Read more »

Rajan

Prem and K Try staying a day at the village with the thugs called … and … then you will understand. I am glad my family has moved out. I am sorry that the present situation doesn’t warrant anything. In fact, just to let you know, MIC is always there at the Kampung. I guess paying each of the newspaper boy RM50 to put leaflets into the Star paper to ask people to come to the forum today at 630pm is worth their time. I say this – DON’T WASTE YOUR TIME WITH THESE… They are the worst… and I… Read more »

Morning Dew

Sunny, their legal status on the land had never been established but whatever document that we had been privy to suggested that the land was given to them in trust. And the trust holder is the federal government. This much we know. They are settlers and not squatters. Many land titles in the past were given FREE if one could establish that they had worked the land. What has “working off their butts” had anything to do with the issue at hand ? You are trying to draw comparisons from disparate circumstances. y, I am not a lawyer nor do… Read more »

nkkhoo

Remember most penangites work their whole lifes to provide a roof for their families, not by YELLING at LGE.

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So what? You are poor meaning others have to be poor like you and not eligible to inherit land from their ancestors?

crash

To add-on, please be reminded that these village families is not the only people in the whole penang that is poor. There are many poorer and in worst situation than them. So as a gahmen they need to be fair. For those who felt symphatise with the villager, nobody is stopping you from donating half of your wealth to give them a better life. You can buy them a plasma for all i care. It is the same thing applied when you ask the state gahmen to spent and use their power to save them right? But by calling that… Read more »

crash

It was originally crown housing trust land, which, from what I understand, should have been transferred to the federal government when the national land code came into force. – Anil the residence of kg buah pala were not squatters but settlers. The penang state government DO NOT OWN THE LAND and they had NO RIGHT to sell it or even lease it. All relevant documents indicated this much. The land is held in trust by the federal government. – Morning Dew So true…!! your arguement have my support. because both of you just telling peoples that the land doesn’t belong… Read more »

eagle-eye

“Bottom line is they dont own the land. Even if LGE can prove that the land deal was illegal in court, he should still kick out squarters. Else everyone will also illegally occupy land. We must follow the law regardless how long you have been breaking it. ” sunny, It just doesnt get into your thick skull. These ppl were not illegally occupying the land. The Penang High Ct acknowledged as much. “As far as I know, none of the families ever had to pay for the land so i dont see what they have lost.” sunny, Just because they… Read more »

y

Morning Dew, This is only what YOU and your lawyer think, this is not what the judge think. State Government is Executive, if you are looking for justice…you have to go to court and they DO and LOSE the CASE. So now the justice is on the DEVELOPER side. What do you think the Executive can do? You and some of the lawyer can read the law “Yours way” while the other side will read it the other way. At the end, it is all depend on which way the judge think they would like to accept. You see, even… Read more »

sunny

Morning Dew,

You posed many questions but I dont think you will like the answer many will provide. Also, I am not convinced these villages has the legal right to ownership of this piece of land. But then again its the court of law that need convincing not me. As far as I know, none of the families ever had to pay for the land so i dont see what they have lost. Remember most penangites work their whole lifes to provide a roof for their families, not by YELLING at LGE.

Morning Dew

sunny, the residence of kg buah pala were not squatters but settlers. The penang state government DO NOT OWN THE LAND and they had NO RIGHT to sell it or even lease it. All relevant documents indicated this much. The land is held in trust by the federal government. Since the penang government do not have such rights then all contracts were void. It is then logical for the court case to be pursued to its logical conclusion. What is the best way for lge to serve the rakyat of penang ? To close one eye and shut the other… Read more »

prem

K,you have every right to your opinion,don’t let anyone dampen your spirits!Malaysians are never able to think on their own,they have been always led by their noose by our ‘supermen’politicians{BN or PKR}We have been brain-washed{decerebrated} by our ‘CORRUPTED’ Politicians.

statistician

1. If KBP residents do not want the 99yrs dbl-stry house, perhaps they can seek MIC SamyVelu to get the RM3.2Mil and share amongst the 24 houses’ residents…. 3. I am Penangite, staying 5 mins drive from HighChaparel. I feel sorry for them of course. To be honest the herd of cows roaming the busy YeapChorEe Road is so risky. Many a times accident happened because we cannot see the herd at the road-bent. 4. Splats of cowdung at Permai Garden, Minden Heights. Plants and shrubs are beheaded when the herd decided to have a ‘makan-makan’ 5. There is practically… Read more »

Jeff

The Brits ruled and occupied this country for over 200 years,so my guess is,one day,all the Brits will start to scream..”THIS IS OUR LAND..WE WANT IT BACK!!:-)
Got info,the settlers have collected RM12k and is sending a “delegate” to meet UN officials..:-)

nkkhoo

LBC
August 7th, 2009 at 5.13pm

nkkhoo
If your ancestor got con of RM10mil, blame on your ancestor for being so stupid. Don’t blame any other body else after so long. right?

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I think your have to improve your comprehensive skill in English fisrt before engaging discussion here.

In the same token, the blame shall be on LGE’s ancestor for cheating KBP resident in his party’s promises made during the last GE. Huh?

blackeyepee

K… Why are you still supporting KTK? You realli duno how t distinguish your friend and your enemy! Shame on you!!!

amoker

i suspected that they will reject the offer. there are many hands in the bowl.

sunny

Bottom line is they dont own the land. Even if LGE can prove that the land deal was illegal in court, he should still kick out squarters. Else everyone will also illegally occupy land. We must follow the law regardless how long you have been breaking it.

ps……I have equal compassion for hardworking penangites facing difficulty paying their house loans during this economic downturn. Maybe LGE should also bully the banks to cancel these debts.

Morning Dew

Tammy, your call is well intended but the injustice must not be forgotten or even gloss over. Justice for one is justice for all. What will happen if some predatorial businesses in collusion with some greedy civil servants came and “fix” your property just because there is some gray area to the title deeds ? The issue is not about compensation nor the legality of the issue nor even the court order but about a wrong perpetrated on a helpless group of people. If we can’t accord them basic decency and justice what hope is there for the rest of… Read more »

Morning Dew

sltan, your bad experiences should have made you more sensitive to the plight of the people of kg buah pala. Wouldn’t you had wished that someone in authority had stood on your side against predatorial businesses and scheming and scamming civil servants ? Let’s get some perspective folks. Don’t just blindly hurled insults and unkind insinuations when one refused to see or acknowledge the facts of the case. Any right thinking, emphasise been “right thinking” persons could see that a wrong and an injustice had been committed. I hope that with pas now entering the fray there is some semblance… Read more »

Jeswant Natarajan

“The villagers live on 24 property plots, ranging from about 3,000-5,000 sq feet each, with one even 13,000 sq feet. Quite a few of these plots have additional pondoks or extensions for extended families to live in. – Anil ”

So allocate the new houses to them proportionately based on the current size of their land.

K

Yeah right…

LGE is the God of Kindness and Justice and the KBP villagers are “greedy BN supporters”. Those who support them must be racist Hindraf and MIC goons.

Folks, don’t underestimate the villagers and their supporters. This decision will haunt LGE and DAP for a long long time. … just like Khir Toyo (and the) Kg Jawa issue.