Soil scientist: PIL tunnels will cut through three faultlines

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Who would like to use good public transport?

An eye-opener for 200 people at a Penang Forum briefing in Chinese and English at the Teo Chew Association at Chulia Street this afternoon. Almost all of them indicated on the registration forms that they had not been consulted about the project.

Among other things, they were shocked when soil scientist Dr Kam Suan Pheng explained that the PIL highway tunnels will cut through three fault lines in the granite sub-surface. One of the faultlines is near the Kek Lok Si and the Air Itam earth (not concrete) dam. The EIA report recommends more detailed studies on the faultlines, which means those studies haven’t been carried out. What happens if no safer route can be found? See report from yesterday’s forum.

Also 750,000 lorry-loads (assuming five-tonne lorries) of rock debris will have to be carted away some of them through the narrow winding road between the Kek Lok Si and the columbarium. Other access roads will be at Paya Terubong and Relau.

The state government claims it has “engaged” with 17,000 people but yesterday’s Penang Forum presentation in Malay and English reached 19,000 people via Facebook live.

This cartoon gives us some food for thought:

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M Pillay
M Pillay
27 Aug 2018 2.16pm

Don’t want dam explosion and damming fault lines, then anti PTP NGOs SHOULD work to limit number of motor vehicles on the roadd of the island. Those who want to drive have to pay a premium, the money collected can be used to finance efficient and predictable bus system that can reach close to the homes.
No more new car showrooms in Penang. Car tender system like singkarpoh COE.

Aaron Wee
Aaron Wee
28 Aug 2018 2.47pm
Reply to  M Pillay

Must find ways to charge car drivers and use thd money to subsidise public bus.

glissantia
glissantia
29 Aug 2018 2.08pm
Reply to  M Pillay

Why the NGOs? It is the responsibility of gomen. Or are they free to cut deals as long as there is no “noise”?

tunglang
tunglang
29 Aug 2018 9.57pm
Reply to  glissantia

Every time NGOs voice out, the standard retorts from the paid gomen servants including the politicians are “Why don’t you do the job?”
Good salaries + perks + YB titles they salivate & keep close to their chests, but when it comes to real responsibilities + work solutions, they are too clever to push the onus onto others! NYIAMAK YBs + Penang state gomen!

tunglang
tunglang
29 Aug 2018 9.52pm
Reply to  M Pillay

M Pillay, this newly elected Penang state gomen, after begging + courting for GE14 votes from trusting Penangites now has the bile to say things according to its resurrected arrogance (we thought CM Chow has better EQ). Many suggestions like entry tax have been put forward in the past but it seems dead-on with the Penang Transport Monstrous Pain (PTMP). It can say not all things proposed are still pending & not to proceed yet money has been paid & look at the way the PTMP evolves plans after plans trying to garner support for the tango which is apparently… Read more »

Alfred
Alfred
29 Aug 2018 12.14pm

Penang Forum please take the lead to promote public bus. Easy to make noise, no constructive feedback.

Shriek
Shriek
28 Aug 2018 8.20pm

Soil scientist. Not even a professional engr registered with engrs board or member of engineering institute like civil engineers of UK or Malaysia. Just like sinseh commenting on cancer. Rocks has faults and joints all over. It is not like ice a solid homogenous . Rock subject to cooling and earth plates move and hence form hills and mountains. Due to cooling and lateral pressure, faults and fractues and joints formed. Therefore how can a soil person talk so much on rock. Soil comes from rock. If there are leaks, engrs will grout the area to reduce the leakage. What… Read more »

quan
quan
27 Aug 2018 3.21pm

Make 100% sure Penang Forum must continue the good work, must never be a loser !!!

Aaron Wee
Aaron Wee
28 Aug 2018 2.47pm
Reply to  quan

You mean Penang Forum has been a loser?

quan
quan
29 Aug 2018 7.06pm
Reply to  Aaron Wee

NEVER )))))))! is such a long, long word ! Do you read English ? Chow Kuan You is being bombarded left and right just now in his Penang 2030 seminar…TOE !

tunglang
tunglang
29 Aug 2018 10.05pm
Reply to  quan

It is the beginning of a hot seated CM job not to be too arrogant like that last one! Make good use of your tha-cheng-chi experience for previous CM when controversies cropped up.

looes74
looes74
30 Aug 2018 5.39pm

How come Hong Kong, Taiwan and many many countries in Europe got tunnels and yet pose no problem

Shriek
Shriek
1 Sep 2018 3.31pm
Reply to  looes74

Pg lang more kiasu, kiasi and kau beh kau bu?

Raj999
Raj999
29 Aug 2018 5.00pm

What is the next action by Penang Forum?
Protest at Komtar?

Shriek
Shriek
28 Aug 2018 11.13am

Pic shows Very distorted. Where are other races? Why ah beng and ah lans no hands up? Only warga mas? Ah peks’ children in cars or kapcais?

Bigjoe
Bigjoe
2 Sep 2018 5.41am

This soil “scientist”, got her numbers wrong!!!!

glissantia
glissantia
29 Aug 2018 2.12pm

The cartoon epitomises the attitude of many, including some commentators here. The climate disasters so far have not impressed them. Perhaps they don’t even care for the bleak future of the coming generations.

Tan Wee Theng
Tan Wee Theng
29 Aug 2018 12.43pm

Tony Pua said MOF would likely to cease PDP model for future projects. There goes the PDP proposal by SRS.

Norman
Norman
27 Aug 2018 2.44pm

Prime Minister Dr Mahathir has vowed to prevent foreigners from purchasing properties at the Forest City project in Johor.

“One thing is certain, that city that is going to be built cannot be sold to foreigners. We are not going to give visas for people to come and live here. Our objection is because it was built for foreigners, not built for Malaysians. Most Malaysians are unable to buy those flats,” he told reporters at a press conference in Kuala Lumpur today.

https://m.malaysiakini.com/news/440533

Same guidelines for the future 3 artificial islands in Penang?

Norman
Norman
27 Aug 2018 10.36am

First the explosive, then the faultlines.
Coming up next?

tunglang
tunglang
27 Aug 2018 9.11pm
Reply to  Norman

So, you are not concerned???

Aaron Wee
Aaron Wee
28 Aug 2018 2.47pm
Reply to  tunglang

Shock and awe?

Shriek
Shriek
28 Aug 2018 11.20am
Reply to  Norman

Yankees drops more explosive in vietnam than ww2. Today vietnam still there. Many pg lang go vietnam. Explosive uncontrolled. Here blast are controlled and at fixed time every day. Permits are required. Bombs no permits required.

glissantia
glissantia
26 Aug 2018 8.43pm

Another problem: rock falls due to erosion. In the original Karak Highway through the Main Range, the foreign contractor cut corners by having steep slopes. After a few years of normal rain, the sandstone eroded and collapsed, cutting off traffic for some time. Mr. Semi-value had the angle changed to maybe 45 degrees at public cost.

tunglang
tunglang
26 Aug 2018 8.12pm

Attention: Jalan Balik Pulau (road near to Kek Lok Si Temple) is not made for daily use of big lorries with heavy loads. Jalan Balik Pulau is a narrow 2-lane road branching off Jalan Pasar (a one-way loop road around the Air Itam food court, wet market & famous Laksa stall). So narrow, only one stream of saloon cars on each opposing lane can travel safely & slowly. Witness the jams esp during CNY to see what I mean. It runs uphill after the columbarium & winding all the way uphill to Air Itam Dam. The steepest stretch of 100… Read more »

Yu Leng
26 Aug 2018 6.58pm

faultlines?!!