Penang: Concerns of maldevelopment?

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Are civil society’s concerns about Penang’s development trajectory being taken seriously? Are contentious projects an issue that will be on voters’ minds going into the Penang state election?

Astro Awani’s Melisa Idris speaks to Dr Lim Mah Hui, a steering committee member of Penang Forum and former Penang Island city councillor.

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Mike
Mike
20 Jul 2023 2.00pm

Can Penang Forum and like minded NGOs become the 3rd force in Penang in GE16?
Dr Lim Mah Hui can start gearing for 3rd Force, who knows potential CM candidate?
Anil can become deputy CM?
This is not fantasy game. If these NGO thinks they can govern and develop Penang better, better walk the talk now.
We Shriek, PCH, Luca, Alpha etc can be independent voices replacing NGOs that venture into politics.

Kak Inon
Kak Inon
20 Jul 2023 6.48pm
Reply to  Mike

It is easier to be NGOs since they could say and do things without accountability. We seldom see sincere NGOs doing things responsibly by collaborating with the local governments. They to to criticise and complain to gain prominence.

NoNo
NoNo
24 Jul 2023 2.45pm
Reply to  Mike

Despite the development in Penang is ongoing, the “Kor Char Bee” (old taste) of Penang hawker food must be preserved and maintained.

Kudos to Ah Hong and Uncle 6 on helping Penang hawkers in this aspect.

https://youtu.be/Wpkz2-0JRjE

luca
luca
27 Jul 2023 8.18pm
Reply to  NoNo

Top 10 Penang Char Koay Teow

https://youtube.com/watch?v=t2BX7GJ_9IY&feature=youtu.be

NoNo may disagree on the order of the Top 10, but must agree that the ‘secret ingredient’ is the lard.

Mike
Mike
19 Jul 2023 9.24pm

RE: Dr Lim’s concern over brick n mortar development eg alleged 20% occupancy of condo’s around his Tanjong Tokong neighbourhood.

Penang Forum or Aliran, if such civil claim is true then can be substantiated with facts and figures.

If I’m not wrong, another NGO Consumers’ Association of Penang (CAP), during its hey days, ever published occupancy rate of Penang residence.

PF, Aliran can seek CAP to publish latest scenario on Penang Occupancy matter to justify whether there is maldevelopment ?

Shriek
Shriek
20 Jul 2023 6.05am
Reply to  Mike

Survey? Who does the survey? Who analyse the figures or manipulate them? Survey carry out free? Free lunch?

PCH
PCH
20 Jul 2023 7.57pm

4 Projects approved by Federal Government for Penang as announced by YB Anthony Like :

https://fb.watch/lUSoKCcH8j/?mibextid=Nif5oz

1) Airport expansion to cater for 1 million users a month

2) LRT from Bayan Lepas to George Town, and later link to SPerai.

3) redevelopment of waterfront at Port Sweetenham

4) E vehicles for public transport RapidPenang

Consider This on Astro Awani soon

SamAng
SamAng
21 Jul 2023 1.21pm
Reply to  PCH

Penang South Island – Topside development plan

PCH
PCH
19 Jul 2023 2.11pm

Lim claims that developers prefer reclaimed islands as they are more glamorous for expensive condominium, instead of lands on mainland of Penang.
However, now the sole reclaimed southern island is for FTZ factories extension or for condominiums? Penang Forum must clarify with State Government the new masterplan for the sole reclaimed island.

SamAng
SamAng
19 Jul 2023 5.19pm
Reply to  PCH

Penang Forum must ‘seek to understand in order to be understood’. Too many times ‘shoot first, then clarify later’, wasting lots of resources resulting in low credibility.

The reality is the support base of PH is on the island, the sourthern island can further accomodate more supporters. More progressive Kedahans will relocate to Penang island in the coming years and they will choose the island, displacing the disgruntled ones to northern Prai and even to Kedah. Demographic exchange?

luca
luca
28 Jul 2023 1.16pm
Reply to  SamAng

A wake-up call soon if Bayan Lepas were to fall to PN-Gerakan in PRN.

Shriek
Shriek
20 Jul 2023 6.08am
Reply to  PCH

20 behind time. Sing apor, shenshen reclaim land you don’t have cutting hills, land issues. Flat land and sea view for good fung siu.

Luca
Luca
19 Jul 2023 11.58am

What are the contentious projects that is of concern? It is very subjective, right?

High car density and traffic congestion is contentious to some, but not to Penang Forumers?

NoNo
NoNo
20 Jul 2023 7.29pm
Reply to  Luca

I visited Penang recently and the traffic congestion is bad. There must be ways to curb car population. Sadly nany do not take RapidPenang which is quite comfortable and clean.

shriek
shriek
21 Jul 2023 9.56pm
Reply to  NoNo

Why not ask Penang Kias if RAPID is comfort and clean?

Esme
Esme
22 Jul 2023 1.26pm
Reply to  shriek

Already 3 generations since Proton Saga, unlikely for today’s Kias to give RapidPenang a try. Also M40 do not want to be associated with B40 if being seen taking bus.

Shriek
Shriek
24 Jul 2023 3.35pm
Reply to  Esme

Pf should take buses and not cars. They give general overall comments. Along with buses, it also links with regularity, timing and availability during peak hours

Sheena
Sheena
28 Jul 2023 4.15pm
Reply to  Shriek

My friend just notified Moovit to update and provide accurate real time bus arrivals times at bus stops.
Moovit is not aware of its error, and nobody in Penang until now informed them.
Penangites need to engage relevant parties if the services are not satisfactory for continuous improvement.
Many moan about RapidPenang but Nog helpful to provide constructive feedback to better it’s services.
Penang Forum likes to make noises that do not directly help the daily needs of the public

PinkTiger
PinkTiger
25 Jul 2023 5.06pm
Reply to  Esme

Today’s M40 parents would not encourage their kids to take public face to safeguard their face. Today without owning a personal car is not good for one’s reputation, may give impression that you have dropped to B40 category after the Covid pandemic.

SamAng
SamAng
26 Jul 2023 11.00pm
Reply to  PinkTiger

Car is a tool you could drive along to showcase your wealth and status to others. It is thus more ‘valuable’ than a home in this aspect.

Maharashtra
Maharashtra
28 Jul 2023 7.10pm
Reply to  PinkTiger

Once you are retired, you can take life easy, rilek and do not really need a car if your kids are already grown up. Take Penang public bus snd deplore the island at leisure pace. Take Grab if you are in a hurry for urgeng matters.

shriek
shriek
28 Jul 2023 8.32pm
Reply to  PinkTiger

reaching 40 to 50 deg C this summer. Go and burn more and the burning will increase as man try to get cool with A/C

luca
luca
31 Jul 2023 11.28am
Reply to  shriek

Air conditioning generates about 4 percent of global greenhouse gas emissions, twice as much as the entire aviation industry. But what many people don’t realize is that most air conditioners put an enormous amount of their energy just toward removing humidity from the air.

Brocky
Brocky
21 Jul 2023 7.34pm

GEORGE TOWN: Penang residents, especially those living on the island, are waiting with bated breath for the commencement of the Light Rail Transit (LRT) project at the end of the year.

A check by Bernama found that the public was excited about the project and confident that the LRT will ease the long-standing traffic congestion in Penang.

https://www.nst.com.my/amp/news/nation/2023/05/914974/penang-lrt-project-set-start-year-end

Maharashtra
Maharashtra
20 Jul 2023 7.01pm

I have heard of malnutrition.

Maldevelopment means lack of development?

Development means differently to different people.

Kelantan folks want spiritual development, no need for clean water since they look forward to afterlife.

Brocky
Brocky
22 Jul 2023 10.50pm

China-made hydrogen-powered smart tram to be exported to Kuching, Sarawak

https://youtube.com/watch?v=GaBzBMkwTv8&feature=youtu.be

Anil as a fan of tram should visit Kuching next to try out the tram.

Brocky
Brocky
23 Jul 2023 2.42pm
Reply to  Brocky

The world’s first hydrogen-powered tram, developed in China, is on its way from its production site in Hunan province to Malaysia where it will be a prototype for Kuching’s urban transport system.

https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2023/07/22/kuching-to-test-smart-tram

shriek
shriek
28 Jul 2023 8.45pm
Reply to  Brocky

PF take a good look and rewind at the You tube again. The ART is using a 6 to 8 lanes road on relatively flat land. In Cat city is running at the central divider. PF wants to run the ART on existing 2 to 4 lane roads? When happen when 2 ART pass each other?

Jock Yusof
Jock Yusof
1 Aug 2023 5.01pm

If Gerakan manages to get any elected state representatives, Dep. Pres Oh Tong Keong says they will resign en masse if alcohol and gambling are banned in the state if Perikatan Nasional comes into power. So why bother to elect any? If they think they will become the ruling party and be able to have any say in these matters, they are totally useless if they just say they had no influence and quit as soon as these people do what they have already made clear they intend to do?

Maharashtra
Maharashtra
28 Jul 2023 7.07pm

Those who has been dropped should just should just shut their mouth and not talk bad about the party. If they are not happy they should just resigned quietly from the party and join PAS/PN if they think they can find happier life in the opposition. Instead they should be grateful that they have been given the opportunity to contest their seat and won previously. They are many members who also work very hard for many years but still did not have the chance to contest in elections since there are too many qualified members but not enough seats to… Read more »

luca
luca
27 Jul 2023 5.45pm

P Dev Anand wrote on Malaysiakini: PAS is not dumb, once they have gain a strong hold on the number of state assemblies in the Peninsular, they will start their attack to implement their grand design of a more Islamic Malaysia which will be on it path towards a theocracy instead of being secular like what it is now. If the Penangites want another Tan Sri KSK type of leadership which Penang had before 2008 then go ahead and vote for Gerakan. But remember the Malays are masters in the art of the possible. After all these years of constant… Read more »

Brocky
Brocky
23 Jul 2023 12.03pm

I am not a Muslim but I support the government’s crackdown on excessive LGBT behaviour.

https://m.malaysiakini.com/news/672864

LGBT can exist peacefully in Malaysia but they should not seek to exert their rights openly to be seen as a mainstream lifestyle.

PinkTiger
PinkTiger
25 Jul 2023 5.07pm
Reply to  Brocky

1975 could have been paid by certain parties to create controversy surrounding LGBTQ in Malaysia? Maybe they want to have worldwide coverage for attention?

shriek
shriek
28 Jul 2023 8.50pm
Reply to  Brocky

What will you do if she wants to dress as he and he dress as he? No Wrongs? Some has fat hormones, some thin and some she has he hormones and she has he hormones?

IQ900
IQ900
28 Jul 2023 6.59pm

Satees Muniandy. while it is your democratic right to stand as an independent at Bagan Dalam state constitute, I feel this is your knee-jerk response on not being field by your party.

I do not know how is your campaign machinery. In Malaysia, voters still vote based on party’s logo.

By the way, good luck to you. Make sure you have Plan B, just in case your deposit becomes a ‘donation’ to EC.

SamAng
SamAng
26 Jul 2023 6.44pm

Malaysian economist, Prof Emeritus Dr Barjoyai Bardai, recently said that the general public won’t be able to bear the high cost of living in the country with basic savings of RM240,000 According to Barjoyai, if RM240,000 is divided over 20 years, retirees can only spend about RM1,000 per month, which is highly insufficient, reported Berita Harian. “This amount is not enough because food expenses for residents in Malaysia range from RM800 to RM1,200 per month. So, the allocated amount of RM1,000 is only enough to buy food. What about the cost of housing, utilities, clothes, and so on? “In this… Read more »

luca
luca
27 Jul 2023 11.04am
Reply to  SamAng

KUALA LUMPUR, July 27 — All Malaysian citizens aged 21 and above earning RM100,000 and below in annual wages will receive a RM100 e-wallet incentive from the government, Prime Minister Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim announced today.

shriek
shriek
28 Jul 2023 8.58pm
Reply to  luca

they are oredi earning and gomen still want to give them $$$? Ifthey are not earning, they get ais kosong?

luca
luca
28 Jul 2023 2.49pm
Reply to  SamAng

Malaysia’s Retirement Crisis Is Already Upon Us

shriek
shriek
28 Jul 2023 8.56pm
Reply to  SamAng

why can they continue to work if they want to? Why we need Indonesian house helpers, foreigners in Supermarket and cleaning? Chip workers – 12 hours 7/11?

NoNo
NoNo
29 Jul 2023 3.29pm
Reply to  shriek

Have you realized the need to keep your epf money for old age?

Brocky
Brocky
21 Jul 2023 10.32am

The TRUTH Behind Why The Ringgit is Falling but The SGD isn’t

https://youtube.com/watch?v=wW0LTx6–MQ&feature=youtu.be

The value of the Malaysian ringgit has declined significantly against the US dollar and the Singapore dollar. Has our government devalued it or are other countries just strengthening their currency? Despite that, companies like Tesla, Amazon and Texas Instruments plan to invest into Malaysia. A truly interesting time indeed for our nation, if you’re curious to know more, find out in this video!

PCH
PCH
21 Jul 2023 6.04pm
Reply to  Brocky

https://youtu.be/MK__Zec4SBI

Another view on why Ringgit is struggling at the moment.

shriek
shriek
21 Jul 2023 9.59pm
Reply to  Brocky

ringgit is oredi chip. wants to make it chipper? Where is ketuan?

glissantia
glissantia
24 Jul 2023 12.58pm
Reply to  Brocky

As the economy and currency dives, we can “liberalise” (relax) conditions and laws on investment, tchnology transfer, wages, working conditions, pollution, etc. to attract investors.

Despite the trajedy of Bukit Merah and many later protests, Lynas is going on. Here is a simple question: Has Australia begun taking back radioactive waste from the plant?

luca
luca
24 Jul 2023 8.10pm
Reply to  glissantia

Lynas is here because of liberalised and relaxed conditions? Need a balanced approach with stringent criteria for those that could have impact on environment.

shriek
shriek
28 Jul 2023 9.03pm
Reply to  luca

Not liberlised. No one knows if any kanky panky going on with Mana Malu boss in charge? Close to his turf.

Esme
Esme
24 Jul 2023 9.04pm
Reply to  glissantia

Commit to invest RM5bil and enjoy ‘immigration facilitation’, says Miti.

Eligible investors can obtain a Residence Pass Talent despite not having any prior working presence in Malaysia.

https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/highlight/2023/07/24/commit-to-invest-rm5bil-and-enjoy-immigration-facilitation-says-miti/

PinkTiger
PinkTiger
25 Jul 2023 5.08pm
Reply to  Esme

Having residence in Malaysia is not a priority of the rich and famous. MITI has missed the point.

luca
luca
27 Jul 2023 2.34pm
Reply to  PinkTiger

No liquor no concert so very hard to appeal to rich Ang MOH expatriates.

IQ900
IQ900
28 Jul 2023 6.56pm
Reply to  luca

Already Langkawi is losing its charm in the eyes of foreign tourists because of this. You cannot expect them to drink air Rose Bandung by the poolside or at the beach.