Make public the Penang state action plan on paired road projects

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Time to revisit the paired road project:

The Tanjung Bungah Residents Association (TBRA) calls on the newly elected Chief Minister of Penang, Chow Kon Yeow, and the state government to be fully transparent on the need for the North Coastal Paired Road project, the implications of this for the residents affected by the road, what alternatives were considered and deemed not feasible, and how the state action plan addresses all the concerns of the public.

This must urgently be done prior to the commencement of any works for the NCPR.

TBRA has learnt that the state action plan for the paired roads, including the NCPR, was a requirement imposed by the Department of Environment so that the issues raised by the public would be addressed prior to the approval of the environmental impact assessment.

TBRA urges the chief minister to make the state action plan public so that we can assess if our concerns have been addressed effectively.

We also want to know if the state action plan has addressed concerns arising from the most recent floods and landslides that occurred on 5 November 2017 following heavy rains, which involved parts of the areas along the proposed NCPR alignment in Tanjung Bungah.

Photograph: Daniel Lee

TBRA has been raising our concerns regarding the NCPR both to the Department of Environment and the Penang state government previously. We had pointed out serious environmental and social impacts of the NCPR especially for thousands of residents living along the road alignment.

The EIA had revealed that about 46% of the proposed road will be on terrain with a higher than 25-degree slope, which is well known to be ‘sensitive hill land’.

How and whether the Penang state government and the Department of Environment have addressed this concern is a mystery to us that requires further clarification.

Since the Penang state government has provided an action plan to the Department of Environment, it is vital for this to be made public urgently and to seek public feedback, as this will be in line with the spirit of the state government and the new Pakatan manifesto to be transparent and accountable to the rakyat.

TBRA also pointed out and continues to maintain that the ‘saving’ of 14 minutes of time travelled between TanjungBungah and Teluk Bahang at a cost of RM1bn for the NCPR will soon vanish once more traffic demand is generated by the new road in the coming years.

What has also not been made clear is how the state is going to disperse the traffic from the NCPR that ends in Lembah Permai in Tanjung Bungah to Straits Quay.

Hence, no construction on the NCPR should commence until our concerns have been addressed urgently and adequately.

Chairperson
Tanjung Bungah Residents Association

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Yogi Kumudhavalli d/o Kabaliswaran
Yogi Kumudhavalli d/o Kabaliswaran
21 May 2018 9.18pm

New Malaysia we should talk about roads, highways, LRT.

We should focus on intellectual development like building moe libraries to educate the so called “uneducated” by Dr M.

shriek
shriek
22 May 2018 3.27pm

Not building libraries but having a library in every district and well equipped. Newspapers and magazines for seniors too. In hongland, the libraries are located above the markets. $£€¥ better spend to equipped than libariries withoout books or outdated books

Jeevan
Jeevan
23 May 2018 1.23pm
Reply to  shriek

Where is the library at Bayan Baru?

Shirish
Shirish
31 May 2018 12.56pm
Reply to  shriek

My daughter is working in JB, where there is a library at Sutera Mall:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAvOQDUV9tQ

“My Library” is the first of its kind community library to open its doors to the general public in Johor Bahru. Admission is FREE while personal and corporate membership options are also available.

Heng GS
Heng GS
1 Jun 2018 10.44am
Reply to  Shirish

Penang losing out to Johor, can you imagine QBay or Gurney mall has a library?

Rather spent millions on road feasibility study, but can’t even set up a library for BB community.

Ho Wan Lai
Ho Wan Lai
22 May 2018 4.13pm

I think Yogi meant not to focus on expensive transport infrastructures. Personally I think to upgrade RapidPenang bus feeder system should be higher priority.

Penang Forum and Penang Consumer Association can merge under the banner of Penang Consumer Forum (PCF), and in four to five years time register with ROS to be constructive force vs Chow Administration in GE15.

First project by PCF can be to set up more libraries for better knowledge to improve life?

Datuk Seri YB Loh
Datuk Seri YB Loh
19 May 2018 10.45am

Chow Kon Yeow, Zairil et al….you have been given a very strong mandate by the majority of Penang people to lead and carry on with the development projects. Continue with the NCPR and you have the full trust of the people. Don’t let these known Gerakan supporters distract you. The self declared “Resident’s Association” does not represent Tg Bungah people but Zairil does.

rosie
rosie
24 May 2018 8.14am

this kind of dismissive attitude, dap beware of becoming umno 2.0. I am not gerakan.

Ho Wan Lai
Ho Wan Lai
24 May 2018 2.15pm
Reply to  rosie

Non working gaji buta political appointees should be DISMISSED not to further burden rakyat.

Tan Wee Theng
Tan Wee Theng
19 May 2018 3.07pm

The original Penang Transport Plan has minimal road constructions, just more buses, ferries and some tramps!! Everyone should be happy except the one with soley commercial considerations. And it can be implemented within this current mandate!

Shimmer
Shimmer
22 May 2018 4.34pm
Reply to  Tan Wee Theng

How about sheltered bus stops?

Ho Wan Lai
Ho Wan Lai
23 May 2018 7.19am
Reply to  Shimmer

No excuse now Prasarana at federal now under PH direction. PCF (Penang Consumer Forum) should now audit present bus stands without proper shelter and get the ADUN rep to allocate funds to set up shelters missing in many parts on island and mainland. Do not procrastinate as rakyat voted you in.

shriek
shriek
23 May 2018 7.34pm
Reply to  Ho Wan Lai

What excuse? 120 million in Dummo pavilion. Ph gomen kitty all taken by jib and the political apointees. Debts are more than half of the GPD. So money gomen gets, more than 50 % has to give to tai yee loong

Jeevan
Jeevan
23 May 2018 1.24pm
Reply to  Shimmer

Need sheltered bus stops at Spice along Jalan Tun Awang and Jalan Mahsuri.

Ho Wan Lai
Ho Wan Lai
23 May 2018 10.22pm
Reply to  Jeevan

Jeevan,
Penang government can spend millions on spiral bike track, so they should have no problem creating bus stop shelters?
YBs don’t take buses, and need people like you to alert them.

KMF
KMF
24 May 2018 1.54pm
Reply to  Ho Wan Lai

More practical to take bus than to cycle.
But those YBs know that cycling has the hip factor – got style but no substance. YBs should cycle under the mid-day sun, when the ultra-violet rays are strongest, and risk skin cancer.

shriek
shriek
26 May 2018 10.43pm
Reply to  Ho Wan Lai

Bike track is to get pg lang healthy. Too much sitting and looking into computer. Healthy, then, see doc less, less medicine. Doc treat more serious sickness and hosiptal or polyclinics less crowded. Spiral bridge neceassry to save driver n pedestrian life. Highway, vehicle at fast speed. Can cross one lane easy but 3 lanes one way, need good judgement. Cars have to avoid the jay walker

shriek
shriek
24 May 2018 7.42pm
Reply to  Jeevan

You want sheltered from what? Sun or rain? Rain it has to be 75 % enclosed. If open and without walls, wind can blow rainwater in. If 75% enclosed, women may get molest and everyone cab do their big and small job there. Once the big or small job is done, back to square one. You want to stand inside the smelly shelter? Who is going jeep the shelter clean? Get millions of banglas to comr here to work as cleaners?

KMF
KMF
25 May 2018 10.55am
Reply to  shriek

Sheltered bus stop is one with bumbung (roof) and tempat duduk (seats). What enclosure are you shrieking about?

shriek
shriek
25 May 2018 8.54pm
Reply to  KMF

I am shrieking to make you understand, where is the queque or line up for the bus? When tbe bus comes, everyone will rush when anil and everyone is trying to encourage to leave your proton behind and take bus. In high passenger areas where buses comes less than 15 min intervals or even lesser if there are 2 or 3 buses ply the same route, you have no time to sit. If there are few passengers then no need to queque to up. Even if there is a roof, thre is no assured protection from sun and rain for… Read more »

Ho Wan Lai
Ho Wan Lai
26 May 2018 12.55pm
Reply to  shriek

If you are a OKU, standing for 1-2 minutes at the bus stop could be a pain. They need a place to sit while waiting for buses.
Clearly Shriek has not taken RapidPenang and deserves education from Penanglang.

shriek
shriek
27 May 2018 10.16am
Reply to  Ho Wan Lai

If oku, they come with wheel chair. They gave priority as they need to be anchored to the bus.if not, they will wheel from front of the bus to back and the bus destintion willbe general hospital emergency ward

Ho Wan Lai
Ho Wan Lai
28 May 2018 9.23pm
Reply to  shriek

Not all OKU in wheelchairs lah.

shriek
shriek
27 May 2018 12.05pm
Reply to  Ho Wan Lai

Oku, special licence for cars to park as it like. Remember the woman complains to mbpp when mca helping? No problem, give her a licence to park anywhere

Alice
Alice
26 May 2018 1.30pm
Reply to  shriek

At least 15 min waiting for bus, no shelter get sun tan.

tunglang
tunglang
26 May 2018 5.31pm
Reply to  Alice

Most bus shelters can accommodate only 6 sitting & 6 standing commuters (if you don’t mind sitting + facing the butts!).
Just take a look at the one small bus stop outside of Masjid Negeri along Jalan Air Itam (opposite SJKC Shang Wu) after work, you will see more than 30 commuters waiting under trees for free rides home on PgRapid CTIA & CTIB feeder buses to Ayer Itam & Paya Terubong.
What if it rains?

Ho Wan Lai
Ho Wan Lai
28 May 2018 4.32pm
Reply to  tunglang

Learnt from aunties who take Rapid to work. Every morning they know when to be at bus stands in anticipation of bus arrivals without long wait. They somehow know the schedules and even the drivers on duty during that time slots. RapidPenang already published the intervals between similar bus services. More popular one every 15 minutes during peak hours. Less in demand route can be every 45 minutes. So if you fail to stop one that just passed by, then may be you have to wait as long as 45 minutes! Rapid parent company Prasarana still owe federal in billions… Read more »

shriek
shriek
26 May 2018 9.59pm
Reply to  Alice

Main point is to have more people taking public transport. If more people than buses need to come not later than 15 min intervals. Otherwise go back to king of the road. In bangkok, any cities in china, any sheltered bus stop or stops with seats? Only buses that is about half hour once, since no seats. Seats and shelter are third world like in Africa.For half hour, bus have time table. With time table, note the time of arrival and plan what time to com to the bus stop. Why waste 20 to 25 mins waiting for bus? The… Read more »

shriek
shriek
27 May 2018 10.23am
Reply to  Alice

Standing is good exercise. Rakyat has diebetes and high blood pressure

shriek
shriek
27 May 2018 3.48pm
Reply to  Alice

Sun tan good. No need to buy vitamin D. Good for bones too. Hitam manis

Priya
Priya
26 May 2018 2.01pm
Reply to  shriek

People who drive (usually those policy makers) never understand the plight of those taking public transportation.

tunglang
tunglang
26 May 2018 5.18pm
Reply to  shriek

Just build sheltered pathways from nearby buildings (eg complexes, housing estates) connecting to the bus stops.Take a cue from Penang Hill Railway Station whereby visitors queuing up even in long queues are sheltered. Long queue, short queue, no problem.

shriek
shriek
26 May 2018 10.23pm
Reply to  tunglang

Ah pek, that is the terminal. If you seat, how to line up? Look at the ferry terminals, once gate is opened, everyone hurried to the ferry., lucky ferry door is two cars wide. Ask bus company to make doors 2 cars wide too??

Shirish
Shirish
31 May 2018 1.05pm
Reply to  KMF

Just look at the Singapore’s new ‘smart’ bus stop that promises a cooler wait:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnZrmF5a1WA

Besides the usual panel showing bus arrival times, the smart bus stop provides commuters real-time information on the air pollution levels in its vicinity and a means to beat the heat and pollution with an overhead air cooling and filtration system.

Read more: https://tdy.sg/2tCXO9J

Ho Wan Lai
Ho Wan Lai
25 May 2018 4.47pm
Reply to  Jeevan

Spice Hotel is under construction by SPSetia. Adun Pantai Jerejak or Batu Uban in charge of this area should get SPSetia to sponsor 2 shelter ef bus stands there, and SPSetia can in fact put up their logo advertisement on the roof of the stands. If SPSetia not willing, I am sure Ivory Properties or MBI can sponsor and do ambush marketing to take credits over Spice projects. Sometimes we wonder if Adun representatives truly care for rakyat after GE. YB Sim of Bayan Baru is classic example who cannot honour his commitment to set up a replacement library for… Read more »

Ho Wan Lai
Ho Wan Lai
26 May 2018 12.42pm
Reply to  Jeevan

No hope with sheltered bus stops or a library? Then Anil can provide PSM contacts who can serve the rakyat faster despite no budget. PSM can start serving now. Dr Jeya or Arul can come to BBaru now then people can vote for him GE15.

tunglang
tunglang
26 May 2018 5.47pm
Reply to  Anil Netto

Anil, there are local companies recycling used computers & send them overseas to 3rd countries.
Maybe, they can chip in with still usable recycled computers for public e-libraries. 30 desktops for an e-library is asking too much!
My estimate: Each recycled computer costs Rm200 X 30 units = Rm6,000.

shriek
shriek
26 May 2018 10.28pm
Reply to  tunglang

Have computer but no wifi is like library bldg but inside no books. Get some cheap tablets.

Heng GS
Heng GS
29 May 2018 1.35pm
Reply to  shriek

Redtone sponsor Penang free WiFi with t&c which Jeff Point can elaborate.
Penang Cyber libraries can get CSR sponsorships from TM Unified or Maxis or Celcom.

Heng GS
Heng GS
29 May 2018 1.36pm
Reply to  shriek

Jeff Ooi not Jeff Point. Typo

Srinivasan
Srinivasan
29 May 2018 12.21pm
Reply to  Jeevan

A good suggestion by Jeevan.

tunglang
tunglang
26 May 2018 5.42pm
Reply to  Shimmer

Beside sheltered bus stops, RapidPg should now increase number of buses (including feeder buses) to cut short the waiting time from 15 / 20 mins to 10 minutes. Waiting for a bus for 20 minutes is leg numbing & a waste of time. I tried to catch RapidPg bus opposite MBS school (Ayer Itam) in the morning but ended up waiting 25 min just for a bus to Paya Terubong. This was insane during the time from 7.00am which was supposed to be peak hours for Rapid drivers. If they still stick to 20 killing-minutes schedule, forget about attracting more… Read more »

shriek
shriek
26 May 2018 10.33pm
Reply to  tunglang

Buses during peak hours ahould not be more than 10 mins interval. Going to work, miss. the bus, will only slightly late for work or just in time at 20 mins, cannot be late. Or receivd fried sotong from boss

Ma jiji
Ma jiji
19 May 2018 8.17am

On the flip side, Teluk Bahang can start to provide vast piece of land for affordable housing and no need to go to mainland searching high and low yet not popular at all !

Heng GS
Heng GS
19 May 2018 12.03pm
Reply to  Ma jiji

350 feet flattened to 250 feet under strict environmental study and control, so those who don’t want to live in mainland can live surrounded by beautiful hills at affordable price.

Heng GS
Heng GS
20 May 2018 9.20pm

What say you on Penang Harapan Bridge?

https://youtu.be/Mo2chNAMGlQ

First ever facilities revealed by CM Chow, worth the investment?

Tan Wee Theng
Tan Wee Theng
19 May 2018 3.00pm

Now that the political landscape has completely changed, our state government is no longer at the whims and fancies of the all powerful project manager to obtain the federal licenses. It’s time to fully concentrate on Penangites’ interests WITHOUT being restricted by any project manager’s technical capability, target revenues, intended profit margin and any other commercial considerations which shouldn’t have been there in the first place. Also, TM & LGE both remarked that our financial balance sheet is in a bad shape, there is even more reason to review our Penang Transport Masterplan. Bring back the original Penang Transport Masterplan,… Read more »

shriek
shriek
20 May 2018 11.21am
Reply to  Tan Wee Theng

No need Gmuda to be the middle man n earn hefty commission. But careful as they can counter sue like splasing in selangor.some contractors are good in making claims like the one doing light rail in down under. World wide, they delay and claim from owners. In fact they budget and spend a portion of funds to make claims

Shimmer
Shimmer
22 May 2018 4.35pm
Reply to  shriek

Now Umno members will quit the party to join Harapan else cannot tender for government project outside Perlis and Pahang.

shriek
shriek
20 May 2018 6.50pm
Reply to  Tan Wee Theng

Are the roads wide enough to have bus in priority lanes? Otherwise buses will be slower as it has to stop and pick or drop passengers along the way

tunglang
tunglang
26 May 2018 9.47pm

This is utterly disgusting – religious bigotry rearing its ugly head again. Don’t act on your own, Perak MB tells NGO that forced mart to get rid of booze https://www.malaysiakini.com/news/426998 Perak Menteri Besar Ahmad Faizal Azumu has issued a reminder against an NGO that forced a convenience store in Manjoi to get rid of their alcohol stock. Faizal said he understood the sentiments of the NGO, as Kampung Manjoi is one of the biggest Malay villages in Malaysia… Majority doesn’t give a licence to one who can’t stand others’ way of life to impose whatever on others whether its business,… Read more »

Ho Wan Lai
Ho Wan Lai
25 May 2018 5.41pm

Pilau Jerejak development gets go ahead

https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2018/05/24/pulau-jerejak-development-gets-go-ahead/

Expect Anil to write on Jerejak project very soon.

Heng GS
Heng GS
26 May 2018 12.38pm
Reply to  Ho Wan Lai

Penang Forum or CAP should put up better alternatives now instead of mere talks. If wait till bulldozers are there, then too late. Engage Chow KY now.

tunglang
tunglang
26 May 2018 5.50pm
Reply to  Heng GS

Have a Kopi-O session with CM Chow @ Pulau Jerejak in the cool evening & then adjourn for a pricking-ear night walk among the graves to hear disembodied disapprovals.

Heng GS
Heng GS
29 May 2018 11.51am
Reply to  tunglang

https://youtu.be/AhKiW_UyBeA

Video on Jerejak, now await CM Chow to reveal the plan for island, what to preserve what to bulldoze for developments.

Ma jiji
Ma jiji
25 May 2018 12.02pm

Will Pulau Jerejak have massive developments in the near future ?

shriek
shriek
27 May 2018 10.31am
Reply to  Ma jiji

Same, there will be many hikers or roaming around the island every weekends. They bring in their food and drinks and pollute the island.it was same with everest with climbers polluting the mountain. Lucky, there is no public ferries.

tunglang
tunglang
24 May 2018 9.43am

‘Chin Tong was transport minister pick, still has role to play’ https://www.malaysiakini.com/news/426523 ‘Lesen kopi’ Loke also stressed during the interview that one of his priorities as transport minister will be to put an end to the culture of “lesen kopi,” or driving licences obtained through corrupt means. This, he said, was because the Road Transport Department (RTD) is one of the earliest agencies that young people encounter, which may consequently shape their perception of the government as a whole. “I told the ministry’s staff that the RTD is one of the first government department any citizens will engage with. “Imagine… Read more »

Ma jiji
Ma jiji
22 May 2018 12.32pm

Now! All that we Malaysians should be worrying is the whopping 1 trillion debt rather than some small, petty regional issues cropping up every now and then. With all the pre-election bold promises that look so far-fetched, I wonder, just wonder….

shriek
shriek
21 May 2018 7.50pm

Dummo saying rocket chinaman party. But how come the 4 ministers are not chinaman? Half of the ministers are nin chinese? But PKR has substantial other races but not even a single minister???

Shimmer
Shimmer
22 May 2018 4.37pm
Reply to  shriek

Umno used to say Lim Kit Siang wanted to be PM, what now? LKS even refused ministerial position!

Of course TV3 and NST are singing different tune now.

tunglang
tunglang
20 May 2018 9.05pm

VIEW COMMENTS
Penang CM announces opening of ‘Harapan bridge’
https://www.kinitv.com/video/61281O8

TQ CM Chow & Team & not least soon-to-be-Finance Minister LGE.
Must see this spiral bicycle and pedestrian bridge at the Bayan Lepas Expressway near Queensbay Mall.
Hope to see more of such bridge marvel in other parts of Penang.

Ho Wan Lai
Ho Wan Lai
21 May 2018 12.30pm
Reply to  tunglang

Those who live in inner part of Penang not able to ride direct to Spiral Bridge. Imagine you live in Bukit Gambier, you have to risk your life riding among motor vehicles to reach coastal Penang. At Bayan Lepas roundabout, the motor vehicles may not give way to cyclists.

shriek
shriek
22 May 2018 3.30pm
Reply to  Ho Wan Lai

Spiral bridge needs many space. Only in new higher speed road. Inner pg still has sine bechah

Ho Wan Lai
Ho Wan Lai
25 May 2018 4.29pm
Reply to  tunglang

From inner Penang to get to coastal bike path, the cyclists need to put bicycles in cars to bring them there. Most traditional bicycles are not foldable or have detachable front-wheel to fit into car. So got to spend on modern bicycles. When the car reaches spiral bridge, need to find parking space. So is there a plan to build multi storey car park nearby? All this incur cost and money. We wish Penang gomen has holistic planning, otherwise CAP or Penang Forum can later throw “bullets” at you. However, those who live at coastal condo have no such concern.… Read more »

tunglang
tunglang
20 May 2018 11.33am

Leaving love of Penang, to help rebuild M’sia https://www.malaysiakini.com/news/425844 MP SPEAKS | I have been asked when I will be bidding farewell to Penang when I assume my new post as Malaysian finance minister in Putrajaya. I will not be doing so, simply because I will not be leaving Penang. How can you leave Penang when Penang will always be my home and my family’s sanctuary? I have said you can take me out of Penang, but you cannot take Penang out of me. The obvious reason is that we are all proud to be Penangites, saya anak negeri Penang,… Read more »

eeyaw
eeyaw
20 May 2018 7.04am

Public transport in the form of MRT, LR or MR before anything else, YB Chan

shriek
shriek
19 May 2018 6.11pm

Tbra so vain.building road does not mean cutting into hillslopes. The pair coastal road can be a viaduct or bridge road with road pillars at 4Om apart raised about the hillslope levels

Datuk Seri YB Loh
Datuk Seri YB Loh
21 May 2018 4.45pm
Reply to  shriek

They are not vain but just Gerakan supporters creating confusion. Ex YB Teh as caught in the trap and now they discarded him…. They are all buddies with Gerakan. How I know? Because I stay in Hillside like them, and always see them gathering and scheming

Ho Wan Lai
Ho Wan Lai
22 May 2018 8.56am
Reply to  shriek

If you don’t build road to hilltop, later hikers get trapped inside hills how can bomba rescue them fast without good access path?

shriek
shriek
22 May 2018 3.34pm
Reply to  Anil Netto

How long takes to arrive to rescue? Bomba men nit wearing nike or reebook running shoes. They wear heavy boots that resist fire. By the time reach victim, faster to roll the victim downhill

glissantia
glissantia
19 May 2018 3.07pm

The original excuse for reclaiming land from the sea and non-stop real estate development was that the Federal gomen was not provding enough money. Now that this seems resolved, will these dangerous projects be scrapped?

shriek
shriek
22 May 2018 3.36pm
Reply to  glissantia

Need reclaim. Built new airport. All pg lang happy less noise, droppings and any mishaps passengers and house dwellers are safer

tunglang
tunglang
19 May 2018 8.42am

Anil, what about the paired road project in Paya Terubong?
In fact, it was already in progress & one can see the environmental carnage + rape of forest in brand daylight.
In fact, this botaking of hills in Paya Terubong was the main source of teh-tarik flood water during the last Nov. flooding of many areas from Paya Terubong to George Town.

tunglang
tunglang
19 May 2018 7.33pm
Reply to  Anil Netto

4 months to go before another rainy season hits Penang from September to November. This not including Hungry Ghost Month which is quite unpredictable of scale of rainfall. Unless one stays in a container home which can be jacked up higher above ground, there is nothing much one can do when the flood water rush into his landed property of single storey. Staying in condo from 1st floor (above G Flr) onwards offers better assurance but then one will still worry when & where to move vehicles to higher ground. Furniture shops are waiting in anticipation of good annual sales… Read more »

shriek
shriek
20 May 2018 6.55pm
Reply to  tunglang

Ah pek, what happen if the furniture shops are orso flooded? The furniture gets flooded and wash away?

tunglang
tunglang
20 May 2018 9.07pm
Reply to  shriek

Not all furniture shops get flooded in Penang.

shriek
shriek
21 May 2018 7.57pm
Reply to  tunglang

Spot on. Not all pg gets flooded. So many possibilities. Heavy rain during web tides. 1 in 100 years rain occurs last year and to happen this year is reduced, otherwise can go and buy empat ekor