Influx of visitors from proposed cable car could exceed Penang Hill’s carrying capacity

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Sensitive forests and ecosystem in Penang - Photo: Penang Hills Watch

This is a statement from Sahabat Alam Malaysia:

Sahabat Alam Malaysia (SAM) is very alarmed to learn about the Penang chief minister’s announcement that the cable car project to Penang Hill has been awarded to Hartasuma Sdn Bhd, at an estimated investment of RM245m and is based on a 30-year concession period and will be located in the Penang Botanic Garden area.

SAM, along with other NGOs, including the Consumers Association of Penang, had last year raised our concerns about the proposal for the cable car project in what was then the draft special area plan (SAP) for the hill.

We had opposed the need for the cable car given the limited carrying capacity of the hill and had also seriously challenged the projections in the draft SAP on the number of people that should be allowed on the hill at any one time.

The pre-feasibility study for the cable car pushed a number of 6,463 persons at any one time to justify the cable car project based on flawed methodology, while the 2016 SAP for the Hill provided a carrying capacity figure of only 4,800 persons at any one time. Our challenge in relation to this was not responded to at all.

If the 2016 figure of 4,800 persons was used, there would be no need for a cable car, as the funicular railway would be sufficient.

Our concerns in opposing the cable car stem from the need to ensure the environmental and biodiversity sustainability, management and conservation of Penang Hill, especially given its recognition as a Unesco biosphere reserve.

The overarching objective should be to limit the number of tourists up the hill, given the environmental imperatives, and not to require more tourism products and people up the hill.

Our fear is that the continued economic viability of the cable car will necessitate more tourists and more tourism products on the hill, beyond its maximum carrying capacity of 4,800 persons at any one time, as per the 2016 SAP.

In addition, the state, in deciding that the cable car will begin at the Botanic Garden, is also jeopardising the garden’s environmental integrity.

We are very concerned about the environmental and social impacts, including on traffic congestion of the cable car construction and its maintenance, which involves the bottom station right up to the top station.

Penang Hill and the Botanical Garden are very sensitive environmental ecosystems. We are very worried that the cable car project will gravely impair these sensitive areas.

A detailed environmental and social impact assessment is much needed as required by the laws, which must involve public consultation and transparency.

Apart from the environmental and social impacts, the state, in giving the company a 30-year concession, must make transparent the details of the financing involved. What will be the ticket charges that will be imposed on the public in relation to this?

The Penang state government needs to be transparent in relation to these concerns.

Meena Raman is president of Sahabat Alam Malaysia

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PCH

Good Merry Christmas message to NGOs from the late John Lennon. The “war” should be over and let’s work together for better Malaysia. So this is Christmas And what have you done Another year over And a new one just begun And so this is Christmas I hope you have fun The near and the dear one The old and the young A very Merry Christmas And a happy new year Let’s hope it’s a good one Without any fear And so this is Christmas For weak and for strong For rich and the poor ones The world is so… Read more »

Harimau Tua

Selamat Tahun Baru 2023!

Tambah rezeki rakyat hidup selesa!

Kurangkan kontroversi, tingkatkan prestasi!

Sirius

Kerajaan Negeri Pulau Pinang bersetuju meneruskan pembiayaan Pas Mutiara, yakni pas bagi kemudahan perjalanan tanpa had selama 30 hari menggunakan perkhidmatan bas Rapid Penang, dengan menawarkan 150,000 pas berkenaan membabitkan peruntukan berjumlah RM7.5 juta tahun depan.

https://www.astroawani.com/berita-malaysia/pulau-pinang-tawar-150000-pas-mutiara-tahun-depan-399158

Harimau Tua

Save money, save the environment!

Penang Forum must promote the use of PAS Mutiara!

Molly

I will apply for pas mutiara to support public transportation. Save money too.

Queenzy Veron

Anil,
Your coming posting title can be “Influx of China visitors could raise street food menu prices…”

China to open its border on 8 Jan 2023. Malaysia is top 10 countries to visit based on China web search there.

Already many China travellers posting many vlogs in YouTube (also China’s Little Red Book site) to give visibility to China about Penang being cheap and fun destination for China to explore.

Influx then inflation???

A Rakyat 888

How come you left out the full blown Covid-19 issue over there ?
Tourist from China loaded with the virus to spend their time in our country in particular the island of Penang.

Influx and then inflation of virus. Can or not?

A Rakyat 888

“COVID -19: MATA URGES GOVT TO SUSPEND ENTRY OF TOURISTS FROM CHINA” dd Friday, 30 Dec 2022 8:30 AM MYT

https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2022/12/30/covid-19-mata-urges-govt-to-suspend-entry-of-tourists-from-china

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What action or SOPs will our current Govt. be taking in our Nation to contain these Covid-19 crisis taking place in China.

Shriek

Al pha, china visitors prefer to visit sink apor LOS and Hk. Here Tak pas can’t allow yam seng …

Nandos

Malaysia badly need the tourist dollars from PRC. They will come in drove before the end of durian season after 3 years of deprivation.

Shriek

What full blown? You think Penang is only place in this world? They rather go to LOS where there are more to do for holy days

Shriek

All pha, you can’t show us the full blown Covid issue. With 1.5 B people, hundreds of thousands is full blown? Coming CNY, 1.4B will be making 17B trips by trains, HST, planes, buses etc. You better your Yankees not wearing
Mask have new variant. Why not you announce that?

A Rakyat 88

CHINA SAYS COVID-19 OUTBREAK HAS INFECTED 80% OF POPULATION dd Saturday, 21 Jan 2023 7:24 PM MYT

https://www.thestar.com.my/aseanplus/aseanplus-news/2023/01/21/china-says-covid-19-outbreak-has-infected-80-of-population

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Good enough for you, Shriek.

Shriek

All pha 888, why no comment that your USA had new more contiguous variant and is spreading than California forest fire.

Shriek

Thailand just opened to China visitors. How arrival on first day? Over 3k which equates to 8 Beoing 777. How Beoing 777 lands in Penang?

A Rakyat 88

That is alright. Let Thailand be happy. We are happy for Thailand too.
But we have our own Rakyat well being to take care of.

As for Boeing 777 landing in Penang, why you always don’t ask your PH state govt. They have been governing Penang for so long, about 15 years already.

There was some talk about Penang Airport expansion some time ago. What happened ? Every time talk only and then quiet, nothing, like the ferry issue.

Shriek

Al pha 888. Even you have the biggest airport but you imposed 48 hours covid free doc check, few Chinese visitors will come. They have to cancel their trip if there are signs of Covid. Waste of time and restriction for them

Brocky

Hallelujah goes rock this Christmas!

Nandos

Great song fit for the occasion.

Thanks for posting it.

Sirius

Selamat Hari Natal

Ras

Is there a Ubin & Ipin version of this song?

We need to sing to celebrate our diversity!

Venki

Sahabat Alam please have a meaningful plan to engage rakyat in 2023 to stay relevant.

A Rakyat 88

Statement that needs to be directed to the state govt but instead direct it to a NGO. As usual clueless, some of this PH supporters.

Shriek

All pha, why you KbKb here at NGOs. There is a hotline to State gomen. You orso clueless too

A Rakyat 88

The hotline to the state and their related agencies are as good as we Penang folks trying to touch the clouds in the sky. Not sure why they even have telephones. Maybe for show only. No one picks it up. Only the computers aided voice speaks – sometimes and then goes blank.

That is the state of affairs now in our state. Thanks for your suggestion but you can keep it. Its useless to me.

Shriek

Useless? No wonder your Tai Lo is one of the 10 traitor to BN. Signed loyalty but behind is like Brutus stab at the bad

luca

Malaysian quits job as a film distributor to promote zero-waste lifestyle

https://www.thestar.com.my/lifestyle/living/2023/01/06/malaysian-quits-job-as-a-film-distributor-to-promote-zero-waste-lifestyle

If only our NGOs can think like her.

Surendran

Putting to shame many NGO folks who only do things for cheap publicity.

Anil need to feature real eco warriors.

A Rakyat 88

Since you think many NGO folks do things for cheap publicity only and you feel the need for real eco warriors to be featured, why don’t you be one such eco warrior. Put your words in action. Just don’t just say it for some cheap publicity.

Derga

Penang must develop other tourist attractions to divert tourists from the Hill.

Shriek

Build triple tower like twin tower. Build tram as it is only real tram in SE Asia for tourists to ride

Shriek

Grand palace in Beijing had hundreds of thousands of visitors every day. Both domestic and foreign. The pavement wear off. NGOs only good in KbKb. Why don’t follow Beijing where they limit the number of visitors? Limit no of furnicular tickets per day

A Rakyat 88

Hallo shriek, CCP China now probably crowded with Covid-19. CCP do not want to give the actual picture until WHO has to go down personally to check it out. Not sure what good that will do.

As for NGOs, what do you want them to do besides highlighting, protesting and advising the public? What, you also want them to come and feed you food three times a day and wipe your mouth also.

Shriek

All pha, you use probable. Why not you use sure? Covid is every one’s responsibility. In China there there are more zorros than USA and UK combined. West and ah Mohs can spin a lot of stories. USA and why Aust carry air surveillance? The surveillance is actually spying. They drop sonance bouys to detect enemy submarines.

A Rakyat 88

Just curious, how did you get from Covid-19 – ‘why not use sure’, to air surveillance , sonobuoy, detect enemy submarines to spying. Were you still high, not sober yet at the time of writing?

Shriek

All pha Senior. Western countries used to report no of cases daily and when cases surge, they stop making announcements. They were not alarmed when monkey boxes and new variants from USA and Europe arrived in Down Under. But why alarmed when China is opened up?

A Rakyat 88

Next time, can you please give links to your statements in order to understand better.

Shriek

Al pha, simple English like abc and 123 you don’t understand? Oh?

A Rakyat 88

Hallo shriek, hope this news below will help you understand better on what is going on with Covid-19 in China.

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“China’s Covid-19 Death Toll At 60,000 In A Month, Says Health Authority” by Tan Dawn Wei (China Bureau Chief – The Straits Times ) 
dd Sunday, 15 Jan 2023 10:53 AM MYT

https://www.thestar.com.my/aseanplus/aseanplus-news/2023/01/15/chinas-covid-19-death-toll-at-60000-in-a-month-says-health-authority

PCH

I hope our NGOs can focus more on food affordability and abundance for local consumption, and to encourage use of technology to good harvest.

For example, instead of highlighting (without proper solutions offered) environmental impact, NGOs can “lawat sambil belajar” from China fish farming on how to provide more fishes to the public :

https://youtu.be/q5EZDeIhJrE

https://youtu.be/1EI0TLbK754

Nandos

Mat Sabu must learn from successful nations that produce own food using technology. Time to move away from palm oil plantation, more edible plants and vegetables to cut down imports. Should reconsider convert University Putera back to University Pertanian.

PanTaDuDu

Urban farming to aid food sustainability

https://youtu.be/4M4B-gkIghc

Queenzy Veron

YB Sim please initiate BB urban farming to be assisted by YB Kumaresan (Batu Urban), instead of providing food bank as the needy now must be encouraged to be independent and able to grow food with assistance. Freebies can make able persons lazy lacking initiatives.

Harimau Tua

High prices of vegetables will make many housewives grow their own vegetables at backyard space? Try ‘Potato leaves’ (RM3 for 200g in market) – easy to grow fast with little care needed, just remember to water it regularly.

Queenzy Veron

Bayan Baru YB Sim now needs to step up efforts to promote food sustainability to gain more attention from PM Anwar Ibrahim to provide federal budget. Of course Penang Forum or Aliran can campaign for it for wider adoption starting from Bayan Baru?

Shriek

Who will do urban farming? But many prefer urban gardening and growing flowers. Ask council to grow durian trees along the road shoulder to provide shade and cool the city

A Rakyat 88

LOL, only from shriek who will suggest to grow DURIAN trees along the road shoulder to provide shade and cool the city. Wonder, if he will park his car or sit on a bench to take rest under one of these trees. Mmmm.

Shriek

All pha, people will harvest the durians before it drop to ground. 88 years old senior and you do not know, Siam export cut durians to HK and China? No wonder Thai currency is stronger than Ringgit..

A Rakyat 88

Thailand grows durian trees along the road shoulder to provide shade and cool the city then people (who are this people) come to harvest before it drops to ground then export it to HK and China ?

Is this what you are trying to say, shriek?

Shriek

Alpha 888. … Thailand is a very very big country. Penang where you live is just a drop. Big country no need to plant durian trees by roadside. Penang, you can’t cut hills and to be a tourist place, infrastructure is required.

A Rakyat 88

What sort of infrastructure is required for tourism that we don’t already have? Why don’t you suggest what you have in mind about these infrastructures that you think is needed for tourism in our beautiful “Pearl of the Orient”?

Is it infrastructures to change our Natural little island into some ugly looking concrete nonsense? What is the update now on the Gurney project and from Gurney to Batu Ferringhi horrible looking areas.

luca

The rooftop vegetable farm in Damansara’s concrete jungle

Emil and his partner Tony Yong hope to expand the Fresh Growcer initiative from an urban vegetable patch to an eco-tourism centre where people can come and learn about sustainable farming.

https://www.malaysianow.com/news/2022/05/24/the-rooftop-vegetable-farm-in-damansaras-concrete-jungle

Sirius

The Comprehensive and Progressive Agreement for the Trans-Pacific Partnership (CPTPP) will see the 100% removal of tariffs on imported goods including agricultural products. With those tariffs gone, there would be no more protection for local farmers, livestock breeders, fishermen and food producers, who will not be able to compete.

https://www.thevibes.com/articles/news/81526/consider-cptpps-impact-on-farmers-fishermen-group-tells-mat-sabu

Queenzy Veron

Mat Sabu may not read Anilnetto. So YB Sim of Bayan Lepas (himself ex Minister for Agriculture) can help to convey such good ideas to him.

May be YB Sim can switch focus from riding bicycles program to growing home vegetables program, by providing vegetable seeds as a start to BB residents?

Harimau Tua

YB Sim can provide seeds or seedlings to BB residents to grown their own food. Of course there are oppositions from Vegetable sellers and middlemen.

Cycling is fun but no proper infrastructure to support it. Where to mend your punctured bicycle tyres?

Shriek

Don’t buy chip chip tube. You never ride bicycle? There is a thicker type of tube which last longer and will not puncture easy. Motor cycle shops can also change bike tube. More simple for them. Elementary watson

Alive

Rooftop farming in Thailand, producing 200kg of vegetables:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=2L8O4Qlr9Ys&feature=youtu.be

Malaysia must seize the opportunity. Don’t blame rainwater washing away your vegetables as excuse to raise price.

Molly

We are really behind time. The agriculture ministry is not just palm oil ministry. Should encourage cultivation of other crops to cut down dependence on imports.

I hope Mat Sabu can see the effort in Thailand.

Maybe YB Sim can propose rooftop farming on SPICE in Penang?

Shriek

Here who wants to work as a farmer? How many foreigners are in plantation, wholesale market? MCA wants people to be graduate, boss and white collar worker

Ong Loke Xian

So much to learn and benchmark from others’ success stories, no need to start from scratch. If Singapore with limited land could grow own vegetables in urban settings, certainly we can follow their methods. Channel News Asia has shown many documentary programmes on Singapore fish farming and indoor farming.

A Rakyat 88

If you want the NGOs to do all that, then what is the need for a State Govt. ? Why do you and your lot keep voting for them ? The current State Govt has been here for the past 15 years. What have they done about all that you have asked about? Gees, clueless supporters.

We are going to have a State Election sometime mid this year. Vote for them some more and then blame the NGOs.

CCP China is experiencing a surge of Covid-19. If NGOs go there will not be able to come back.

Shriek

All pha, china has over 1.4B. up sea and north city has 3/4 of malaysia population. When china has strict control, western and you think china is going to dive down, when open orso dive down?

Shriek

Al pha 888, why not, NGOs can be more dedicated and efficient than gomen. See some western countries, they gives funding and grants to them. Eg Salvos, Vinnes, Red Crescent or St John Ambulance. Like you, more efficient in criticising the Gomen…

PCH

Cable car at Penang Hill to cannibalise the growth prospect for Langkawi cable car project?

Yoges

Langkawi is now an expensive destination, not so favoured by foreign tourists (now flocking to Phuket) since it is said to ban booze and bikini under PAS Sanusi government.

Shriek

Chip chip tourists will not good. But dear dear tourists will be very happy.Less tourists, less crowds

Alive

Leaders in the tourism industry have warned that a move to ban liquor in Kedah will affect tourism, especially in the island of Langkawi which is a popular duty-free destination.

https://www.thevibes.com/articles/news/81860/alcohol-ban-in-langkawi-will-spook-tourists-kedah-mah

Ong Goo Kang

Danish made decisions without knowing the consequences all in the name of pleasing the rural Malays!

Now underground’s syndicate will thrive in the absence of legal betting outlets. The enforcers may be able to ‘cari makan’?

A Rakyat 88

E1 === “HUNDREDS OF MRT COMMUTERS LEFT STRANDED AFTER SERVICE DISRUPTION” By Soo Wern Jun dd Thursday, 12 Jan 2023 10:53 PM MYT https://www.malaymail.com/news/malaysia/2023/01/12/hundreds-of-mrt-commuters-left-stranded-after-service-disruption/49910 ======== Penang also experiences this sometimes with that little train that goes up and down the Penang Hill. Now want to build a Cable Car over the hill to go up and down to balance out the load of the little train or something like that. The state also had plans to build a cable car over the sea between the Mainland and Penang island. Not sure what has happen to that. Right now the update… Read more »

Brocky

Former ministers Zuraida Kamaruddin and Redzuan Yusof have been named vice-presidents of Muafakat Nasional, a non-governmental organisation (NGO).

Annuar Musa, who is the president of the NGO, revealed this today, adding that preacher Ridhuan Tee Abdullah and former deputy minister Edmund Santhara Kumar have also been appointed as vice-presidents.

Proliferation of NGOs…

Nandos

First NGO, then it will evolve into a political party in time for GE16.

A Rakyat 88

D2 == Am sure the state is fully aware of the sentiments of the Penang folks regarding the Opposition and the ‘poison’ talks about their green waves etc and could be taking advantage of it. Its all politics mah! Who cares about our beautiful Penang island and how it should be taken care of. The only ones so far who seem to show concern are our dedicated Penang NGOs and Activists. So, Penang folks, keep on complaining about how you could no longer afford housing and so on because that is all you seem to be good at, complaining that… Read more »

Shriek

Al pha 888, you want to bring this up again like grumpy o man? What did the recent Election shows?)

A Rakyat 88

Grumpy old man ? Has the state govt. decided to cancel and do away with the unsustainable Mega projects or still trying to persevere to do it. Is the current Penang population’s waste and garbage manageable ?

How about water ? Will it be sufficient for future usage ? How about the large number of cars on the island and bottlenecks ( an area of traffic congestions). Is the state doing anything to reduce it, etc etc etc ? So naturally, grandpa gets grumpy. 

A Rakyat 88

What is the latest update and progress on the long-term solutions for the water disruption in Nibong Tebal. Have been governing the state for 15 years. Has the issue been solved or still have not resolved this solve able issue. Still have plans for unsustainable Mega projects costing Billions ? Current PM AI says, Mega Projects are a No, No.

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https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2022/02/20/short–and-long-term-solutions-to-water-woes-i

luca

Optimistic analysts say there is indeed a possibility (their argument is “anything is possible” in politics) that Perikatan could win the state of Penang:

“Perikatan needs to win 17 Malay-majority seats and Gerakan needs four seats. That is enough to form the state government. The possible Perikatan poster boy for chief minister is a squeaky clean Gerakan politician,”

https://www.malaysia-chronicle.com/?p=223070

Nandos

It is possible. Penang folks complain some more only to see PN becoming their next government. Malays are now supporting PN just like they did in Permatang Pauh. Ignore the threat at your peril – no 4D, no liquor in Penang.

A Rakyat 88

Won’t it be wonderful, Nandos? No Gambling, No Alcohol and No Smoking, No Cheating, No Lying, No Stealing, No Material or Religious Hypocrisy etc etc etc.

A Rakyat 88

C2
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Our politicians in charge of some ministries are not qualified experts on some matters hence the endless repeating problems or crisis.

This simple matter of engaging or contracting qualified local experts and scientist to resolve the various problems we sometimes face, somehow slips their mind.

End

Shriek

All pha most qualified have been chased away by your MCA gomen. Your MCA gomen [allegedly] employed … so call foreign expert which charge costly consultation fees. Your MCa gomen will to pay them than locals.

A Rakyat 88

No, No, No shriek. They are not my MCA govt. They are part of your PH unity govt. whereby PKR, DAP, Amanah, UMNO with MCA, just not sure about MIC status etc, are all working together now.

So remember, whenever you criticize about UMNO and its coalitions, it will like spitting in your own face. The best thing for you to do now is to embrace them.

For the next 5 years, this is what faith has gifted to you and to all your clueless supporters. So, just live with it.

PCH

NGOs like SAM or PF can aggressively campaign to save environment by promoting recycling program.

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/fresh-graduates-ntu-nus-environmental-projects-singapore-3140671?cid=FBcna

Recycle and Reuse program not gaining momentum so we hope SAM and PF can help. Thanks.

Alive

The tourism industry has been rattled by Kedah’s PAS-led state government for suggesting that the sale of alcohol would be controlled on the resort island of Langkawi, following its move to shut down gaming outlets in the state.

https://www.thevibes.com/articles/news/81860/alcohol-ban-in-langkawi-will-spook-tourists-kedah-mah

Without revenue from gambling and liquor, Sanusi will legalise Ketum farming?

Derga

Underground 4D operators are making huge gain in Kedah. Magnum, Da Ma Chai and Sports toto should apply for online betting (just restrict the betting amount per week) to gain access to Kedah customers. There are ways around PAS restrictions.

A Rakyat 88

That is the interesting part. Ketum can also fall under intoxicant and can lead to addiction same as with gambling, liquor and smoking, etc. So, how does one justify legalizing Ketum.

How does one answer to this in the afterlife ?

Shriek

Al pha 888, why not you ask your PAS about cigarettes and beer? No addiction? Same with coffee. They need coffee in mornings or few a day.
.

A Rakyat 88

B1 == 1. STATE POLL : PENANG TO LET PAKATAN LEADERSHIP DECIDE ON COOPERATION WITH BARISAN by Ian McIntyre dd 02 Jan 2023 6:56PM https://www.thevibes.com/articles/news/81867/state-poll-penang-to-let-pakatan-leadership-decide-on-cooperation-with-bn ======== Hallo shriek, PH to decide cooperation with Barisan Nasional for state polls. How nice. They are practically family now. Lets look at this events, The coming state polls will be taking place sometime in middle of this year. 6 states are involved. 3 under PH state government and 3 under PN state government.  Our CM is talking about some form of with collaboration Barisan Nasional, ” Pakatan Harapan (PH) national leadership council to decide what form… Read more »

A Rakyat 88

B2
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2. PKR TO MAKE DECISION ON ATTENDING UMNO ASSEMBLY by Anne Muhammad  dd December 31, 2022 8:16 PM

https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/nation/2022/12/31/pkr-to-make-collective-decision-on-attending-umno-assembly-says-rafizi/

>>>>> ” PKR deputy president Rafizi Ramli said the party will make a collective decision on whether to attend the Umno general assembly next month if invited.”

UMNO is going to have its Annual General Meeting and PH is waiting for an official invitation to attend the AGM. Otherwise, probably it will be a, No Go. The DPM of the Unity Government which is currently the ruling Government is the UMNO President. 

Cont. to B3

A Rakyat 88

B3 == 3. NEW GOVT, NEW APPROACH TO PENANG FERRY SERVICE, SAYS GUAN ENG by FMT Reporters dd January 2, 2023 7:00 PM https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/nation/2023/01/02/new-govt-new-approach-to-penang-ferry-service-says-guan-eng/ >>>>> Further, like those clueless PH supporters, there are some leaders who are still clueless. This news heading says, ” New govt, new approach to Penang ferry service, says Guan Eng. ” All in the family now but say, ” New Govt, New Approach ” Something must be wrong with the way one thinks. Now, what has happened to the ‘Airport’ like renovation work being done to the ferry terminals and the 4 ferries ordered to be build… Read more »

Shriek

All pha, what do you expect. Your MCA signed contract oredi. You think, building ferries is like cooking instant 2 min noodles? It takes at least 2 years to construct follow by testing and Vietnam had to fine tune them. Why MCA tar uni and college has no tech No logy to design and build them?

A Rakyat 88

So, why did your ex chief say, ”  New Govt, New Approach.” What did he mean by it ? Why the new PH unity government / Ministry of Transport and Penang state govt. not giving any updates on this ferry issue ?

MCA and PPC also quiet on this matter. So, we Penang folks ask, what is going on. Believe the whole project cost about 100 million Ringgit.

A Rakyat 88

Nandos Reply to A Rakyat 888 dd 31 Dec 2022 3.17pm ” You can do your part by taking public bus instead of driving your car solo. Less exhaust gas to the environment. Plant a tree in the new year! ” ======== How do you know that ah am not taking a bus or better still cycling and not driving a car, solo or otherwise. Why is your state Govt. not recommending or using EV buses or encourage the use of EV vehicles? Why are there so so many fossil fueled vehicles in the tiny island of Penang? As for trees, ah… Read more »

Shriek

All pha, 88 senior. Buses are controlled by Central gomen. All licence like driver licence is issued by Central and not state. Where can you find state licence and if state, it runs in Penang only and cannot step into other state.

A Rakyat 88

Hallo shriek, are you still somewhere in 2022 ? We all are now in 2023. There is a PH/ Unity Government in place after November 19th, 2022. Your Opposing MCA whom you like to criticize is part of that Unity Government now.

Your Chairman is also same, still behind time and still don’t understand what Unity Govt is. He says, ” New Government , New Approach ” to the ferry issue.

The PH State Govt has to do some ‘ forward thinking’ and collaborate with the PH Unity Govt.

Shriek

Al pha which part of unity gomen your MCA is in? I can’t see, hear, touch or smell?

Shriek

All pha, senior senior will slow down. You can drive, but take a medical check otherwise you endanger others life. Understand. You no longer iron man or capt america

A Rakyat 88

KLANG VALLEY FACES ANOTHER WATER CUT DURING YEAR-END HOLIDAYS dd Saturday, 31 Dec 2022 11:00 PM MYT

https://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2022/12/31/klang-valley-faces-another-water-cut-during-year-end-holidays

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Floods, landslides, sink holes, pot holes and water cuts every now and then. So, what are Selangorians going to do come State Election sometime in mid this year ? Your State Govt. seem to be at a loss as how to resolve these issues.

Well, ah suggest that every time you folks face these problems in Selangor, come down to Sunny Penang for holidays and have a good time. We welcome you.

Shriek

Bring covid along. Why not said that to Chinese visitors. The world has many better places than Penang. Chinese tourists will visit LOS first b4 coming to penang

A Rakyat 88

Yes, don’t we know it. You are always reminding us Penang folks of how wonderful Singapore, HK, China, Taiwan, Macau etc, etc, etc, is than Penang.

The only difference is, you are still here, enjoying our local food and our beautiful Pearly island.

Shriek

They need not visit Penang as now penang kias bring their food to these countries just ad you can eat fish and chips or steaks Penang kias can get higher wages and benefits. Not all Penang Kias want to live in Wong Fei Hoong shop house like Tungland who live in a condo. If wo a builder, where will he squat?

A Rakyat 88

Further, would like to see our own Rakyat enjoy what we have in our own country, first.

Plenty of sandy beaches, good food ( our people know best their own food, no need for western approvals) , hills to hike, old towns and heritage sites to tour, etc, etc, etc.

The Chinese from China are always welcome here to enjoy except that now the Covid-19 has come back home to roost after a whirlwind tour of our planet and many of them are said to be effected by the homecoming.

Shriek

All pha, you have been throwing rubbish and waste in the water catchment along the river. Selangor is heavily populated with Penang kias. So sg Muda will face the similar situations

Rakyat 888

Blogmaster (Mr. Anil Netto ), will you be continuing with the Topic
” Current Events: Your Views, ( January 2023 )” General issues, and for each month thereafter?

Jialat69

So far we have yet to see any significant contribution from SAM in getting people to protect the environment. They like most NGOs prefer to make noise instead of being proactive.

Sirius

Another irrelevant NGO … instead of rescuing animals, it prefers to employ young people (paid workers instead of volunteers) harassing people for donation at the shopping malls.

Nandos

I truly agree. I never have good opinion on most NGOs in Malaysia as they have political agenda. They like to create controversial statements to raise their profile.

Harimau Tua

SAM can prove it’s worth by promoting car pooling in Penang, starting with Bayan Lepas for factory employees to reduce carbon emissions and protect the environment. But I doubt SAM will do so as it prefers to use its mouth to protest.

Sirius

A good idea as reducing carbon footprint should be in the agenda of SAM. Because difficult to implement, no NGO has the will to undertake this good cause. Easy to protest to show unhappiness, but never happy to help.

Nandos

So many cars on the road and car population increases each day. Since no effort to curb car growth, then should not complain new roads being built. Maybe most NGOs like SAM are hoping for flying cars that do not cause road congestion?

Derga

Maybe Anil can advise Penang Forum to initiate car pooling program?

Rambo

So many proposals on this car pooling seem to fall into deaf ear.
NGOs is quite selective, not necessarily do things to benefit rakyat but only to fit owns agenda. Penang Forum can prove me wrong.

Queenzy Veron

Penang government (of course after state election) can impose fine for cars with less than 3 persons in it to enter and leave FTZ zone during peak hours (7.00am – 9.30am) and (5pm – 7.30pm), with the support from NGOs like Penang Forum.

Incentives can given to drivers who carry 2 or more passengers eg patrol vouchers.

Set up passengers pick up at different districts eg Air Itam, Tanjung Bungah, Downtown Sia Boey etc where others can park their vehicles.

Harimau Tua

The readers have good points, but NGOs still live within own boxes cannot have breakthrough in their approach and thinking possibly to used to criticising without offering constructive suggestions and ideas. NGOs like Penang Forum need to reach out to the masses using focus group studies for feedback to be more relevant.

DSP

First time we notice Mr Anil is hinting that Penang Forum must ‘reflash and refresh’ their ideas to keep up with time, at least taking feedback from people and not insist own pursuing own agenda not relevant to the needs of rakyat!

Shriek

UK and Hk wants to implement restricted zone. Can you see an infant in the car? There are gangs waiting outside the restricted zone and get paid when travel into the restricted zone. They came out after enter the restricted zone and wait outside the zone for next driver. All the front, side and backside roads have to be sealed. Penang kias talk wo thinking

PanTaDuDu

Implement electronic road pricing like Singapore.

https://youtu.be/4ixJno0ZV_w

Ong Goo Kang

Obviously many people choose to ignore the success of our neighbouring small dot.

Shriek

You think it is chip chip? What happen if a johor enters and then exit balek kampong?

PCH

https://www.malaymail.com/news/malaysia/2023/01/04/penang-civil-society-groups-rejects-draft-local-plan-cites-poor-planning-with-lack-of-sustainable-development/48384

Penang Local Plan needs to be elaborated so that people on the street can understand its consequences down the road.

Shriek

You think it is easy to implement? Sink apor tried that. They by pass by picking up paid syndicate a hundred metres up and drop a hundred pass the zone. You think a infant had no right a person or ghost? Who is going to station every day? Council or mata?

PanTaDuDu

Targeted fuel subsidy will see more people paying more for petrol. Like thux peoplr may be forced to car pool or think twice before driving out.

Alive

The government faces a major political backlash if the distribution of fuel subsidies through a proposed new mechanism does not meet its target group, economists have said.

They warned that consumers will have to bear the brunt of the costs if businesses, no longer qualify for bulk subsidies, raise the prices of goods and services.

https://www.themalaysianinsight.com/s/420736

Shriek

Over 60 years of subsidies under MCA and Umno. Fisher gets free nets and oil. Rice gets subsidized fertilisers. Gomen imposed price controls

Yoges

GETTING RID OF ‘INSTITUTIONALISED’ RACISM IS THE FIRST CORNERSTONE THAT NEEDS TO BE NAVIGATED FOR MALAYSIA TO BECOME A LESS RACIST COUNTRY, LESS DEPENDENT ON TOXIC RACIAL POLITICS IN THE YEARS TO COME

https://www.malaysia-chronicle.com/?p=223094

PCH

Fossil carbon emission is seriously a big danger to environmental health.

If cannot reduce cars on road, PF and SAM can collaborate to help more tree planting to absorb hazardous carbon from the air ?

thanks

https://www.thevibes.com/articles/news/81950/dire-impact-msia-must-urgently-cut-fossil-co2-emissions-warns-specialist