This is for those of us who couldn’t make it for the Pulau Tikus town hall meeting organised by the Penang Municipal Council as part of the Penang Transport Council’s pilot project to de-congest Pulau Tikus.
Dr Lim Mah Hui of the Penang Transport Council addressing the town hall meeting – Photos courtesy of Dr S P Choong
The participants, journalists and police at the town hall meeting
Maybe the following exchange will encourage public discussion and participation in the initiative towards more sustainable transport.
First the write-up by soohuey, who attended the town hall meeting:
A meeting was held in the Pulau Tikus Town Hall on Saturday, 10 October 2009, to enable the Penang state government and local council members to meet with stakeholders to discuss implementation of plans to decongest traffic in Pulau Tikus. The implementation in Pulau Tikus is to serve as a pilot project with potential to be expanded state-wide.
Reproduction of meeting invitation can be seen here. The invitation defines “stakeholders” as “the local communities and traders, commercial and office commuters, school children and the public at large”.
Having grown up with fond memories exploring the streets of Pulau Tikus and now living in possibly the most congested street in Pulau Tikus, I attended the meeting as a Penangite and avid resident of Pulau Tikus. Below is my personal account/impression of the meeting.
The meeting was scheduled for 4.00pm, but only started well past 4.30pm because we were waiting for the arrival of Chow Kon Yeow (State Exco for Local Government, Traffic Management and Environment) and Koay Teng Hai (Adun, Pulau Tikus) who were stuck in Butterworth. Whilst this delay was unfortunate, it did allow for small talk between those present. At this time, a common question asked was “How come so few people?”
Attendance: I counted seven or eight people on seats allocated for the press, and turned around to estimate about five people who may be people who actually live/work in Pulau Tikus. A few more turned up after the meeting started and some came and went, but I doubt people who live/work in Pulau Tikus outnumbered everyone else at any point during the meeting.
Commencement: “Rajan”, who introduced himself as a representative of the local council (MPPP), eventually called the meeting to a start and explained that Chow and Koay were caught in Butterworth; so the meeting would proceed without them. (Koay made it to the meeting in the later part of Q & A session). It was never made very clear to me what role Rajan plays in MPPP.
Rajan stated that the meeting was to discuss upcoming plans to relieve traffic congestion in Pulau Tikus and invited a “Dr Lim” to tell us more about the plans. Although Dr Lim went on to explain that he was part of a relatively newly formed “Penang Transport Council”, it was again not very clear to me what role he played within the council. Throughout the meeting, the people who were speaking on behalf of the State/council were “Rajan”, “Dr Lim” and “Dr Choong” (but I’ve no idea what their full names are or their specific roles/involvements. I’m not even sure if “Dr Choong” was one of them or one of us! I was starting to realise I had no idea whom I was talking to. This felt like an “insiders’ meeting” where people should already know each other. It is difficult to work out how much each person should know or be responsible for without knowing their titles and credentials. Perhaps someone else who was present can tell me if it was mentioned very quickly but I missed it?
Penang Transport Council: The Council (PTC) was set up by the State in June 2009 to tackle transport problems and issues within the State. There are 15 primary members in the council and they are comprised of civil servants and volunteers (presumably including academia in traffic management).
Background: According to Dr Lim/PTC, Penangites own more vehicles than there are Penangites — 1.6 million Penangites own 1.7 million cars and motorcycles! In addition to general congestion due to due sheer volume of traffic, illegal parking is a main cause of traffic obstruction and congestion. PTC has identified 400 parking spots within Pulau Tikus, but they are under-used because people prefer to park illegally right in front of their destination than to park at a legal parking spot and have to walk.
The Plan: PTC plans for improving traffic in Penang are divided into three phases — short term, mid term and long term. At this juncture, I must admit I wasn’t planning to report back formally on this meeting, and so didn’t take detailed notes of what is involved in each phase and I am now working from memory. Perhaps others who attended can assist. Short and/or mid term plans include setting up bicycle lanes, dedicated bus lanes, providing feeder buses, educating the public and promoting public transport. These were run through rather quickly, but although promising, they were still too vague and uninteresting for me to remember the long term plans.
Tyre-clamping: The main initiative to be discussed at the meeting was the introduction of tyre clamping for illegally parked cars. This is to be implemented along Burmah Road between Codrington Avenue and Brown Road, along Cantoment Road between Jalan Berjaya and Kelawai Road, and along Bangkok Lane. If successful, this initiative will be scaled up to other parts of Penang.
Rationale: Reducing illegal parking = Reducing traffic obstruction = Reducing traffic congestion.
Step-by-step implementation: Public awareness and “education” campaigns will begin 19 October 2009. This involves putting up signs, informing the public of the initiative and discouraging illegal parking through various media. After a “warning” has been disseminated, tyre clamping will begin on 3 Nov 2009.
How does it work? When a car is parked illegally (eg. on double lines), an appointed MPPP employee will sound a whistle. If the owner of the car does not return to the car after the whistle is rung, the car will be clamped. Drivers who return to find their cars clamped will have to contact MPPP to get the clamp removed, wait for the MPPP to arrive and will be charged an administrative fee for clamp removal. Cars will not be clamped if the owners arrive to their car in time after hearing the whistle, when there is a driver inside (i.e. cars waiting, not parked) or if it is double-parked such that clamping the tyre will obstruct legally parked cars from coming out. In its early phase, tyres will only be clamp at fixed times (i.e. not 24 hours), but this may be extended at the end of this pilot phase.
Why I’m doubtful – The Pulau Tikus scenario
During the meeting, members of the public highlighted that much of the traffic obstruction in Pulau Tikus was due to cars waiting or double-parked and thereby trapping a car inside. In both these scenarios, clamping would not be applicable and does not serve as a deterrent. Tyre clamping was grandly presented as “The Solution” to our traffic woes, which is funny because it doesn’t seem to be designed to address our problems!
In response to a question, “Where in Pulau Tikus do we have traffic obstruction due to illegal parking or parking on double lines??”, Dr Lim responded opposite the police station, along Burmah Road between Moulmein and Cantoment Roads. People who live and frequent Pulau Tikus can easily tell you that the cars in front of the stores opposite the police station are almost all waiting. Everyone who frequents those stores knows that all you need to do is honk and you’ll be served at the window of your car. If the driver can’t stop right at the front, then he/she may pop out, but definitely not long enough to be clamped or even have the whistle blown. Clamping is barely applicable here. This stretch is also not the best example of traffic congestion because moving traffic generally passes by these waiting cars rather easily. I expect minimal impact on traffic flow even if they are able to prevent cars from waiting in front of the stores.
A stretch of unarguable traffic congestion which is included in this initiative is in front of Public Bank and the post office along Cantoment Road. However, while there is indeed congestion here daily, it is caused mostly by cars waiting or double parked. Again, clamping is not applicable.
It was brought up during the introduction that Bangkok Lane is another street with bad traffic congestion and people parked illegally. While it may be true that Penangites like to park illegally, including along Bangkok Lane, I find it extremely amusing that Bangkok Lane should be highlighted as a street with bad traffic congestion and plagued by illegal parking. Instead, it is probably one of the better streets in Pulau Tikus! I’ve found myself walking down Bangkok Lane almost in the middle of the road during the day because it doesn’t have high traffic! One day when I was desperately looking for a carpark during lunchtime to get to the post office, I drove down Bangkok Lane because I knew I’d be able to find a park there. In fact, I could drive in comfortably because there were so many slots! Yes, you may have to get close to the Kelawai Road end, but it really isn’t hard to find parking along Bangkok Lane and there is no need to park illegally. Again, not the best place to test the effect of tyre clamping on relieving traffic congestion. Try Jones Road.
Taken together (along with other statements made by PTC/MPPP representatives during the meeting), it is clear that PTC has a poor understanding of traffic in Pulau Tikus and proper study was not conducted to truly understand the root of problems in Pulau Tikus. The solution that is being offered will create hype and may work initially. However, as explained above, because tyre clamping is barely applicable in the above scenarios, this initiative only serves as a scare-tactic at best and does not offer a solution. It is very disappointing that PTC was not able to show more credibility in having done its homework on Pulau Tikus and show evidence of insight into how this initiative can realise its potential.
Why I’m doubtful – Drawing conclusions for expansion: Discussions on my doubts on why the application and applicability of tyre clamping in the designated zones in Pulau Tikus cast doubt on the usefulness of any success as a determinant whether the initiative should be expanded State-wide.
It is vital that pilot projects are designed so they can effectively test the condition being examined. I strongly believe that this pilot project would be much more meaningful if it is carried out where it is more applicable. Is this failure due to lack of homework, lack of sincerity or mere incompetence somewhere along the chain?
Why it will “work” and then won’t work
It is likely that traffic congestion in the designated areas will be alleviated when this project is run. This is because they have received commitment by the police to focus as many personnel as they can in these zones during the pilot period. This is to ensure that the project runs effectively. Representatives from the police were present at the meeting and showed strong commitment to providing the personnel. Hence, there will be more police going around getting cars that are waiting to move along. However, a reduction in traffic congestion because there are more police patrols preventing people from waiting is not the same as tyre clamping working being successful in deterring traffic congestion. It is the increased policing that will move cars that are causing congestion, and therefore creating the *illusion* that tyre clamping is working because it coincides with the initiative!
What will happen at the end of this pilot project is that they will declare tyre clamping a success, expand it to other parts of Penang, all the police seconded to Pulau Tikus will return to their original placements, occasionally cars will have their tires clamped but it will never fulfil its potential and won’t have much effect on traffic congestion in Penang. By this time next year, the hype will be over and it will be business as usual. Nonetheless, the DAP can say they’ve done something – that it was successful! Tyre clamping will be another initiative that is all smoke and flares but without substance. How often have we heard of grand promising plans that end up amounting to nothing? Koay nodded to me and said this won’t just be “Hangat hangat tahi ayam”… Let’s wait and see.
In the meantime, we can be more assured that we can stay comfortably in the store/restaurant after parking our cars illegally because we’ll be notified by a whistle when it has to be moved.
Dr Lim Mah Hui responds:
It is encouraging to receive the report by one of the participants at Saturday’s town hall meeting on decongesting traffic in Pulau Tikus. While I agree with some of her comments and not others, I nevertheless welcome her contribution and engaging in public discussion. That is the essence of participatory democracy. I can fully understand the writer’s scepticism about political will to see projects like this through, given the dismal track record of politicians.
At the same time, the writer also has the responsibility to continue to monitor and push this new set of politicians in the state of Penang to live up to their promises and more importantly to provide constructive suggestions on alternatives if he/she thinks this will not work.
It is useful to get the writer’s feedback that members of the public want this to succeed and that “whistling” and just giving warning (the soft-approach) does not work. That gives more support for the council to go ahead with a firm approach after the initial period of education.
Finally, it is noted that next time, proper introduction of the organisers should be helpful. Dr. Lim Mah Hui is heading the task force on public awareness and Dr Choong Sim Poey, heading the task force on public transport in the PTC. Mr Rajendran is the engineer in charge of traffic management in MPPP.
It should be emphasised that this was not an insiders’ meeting. Great effort was expanded to publicise the meeting through press statements, blog sites, and over 1,000 leaflets were circulated to shopkeepers and public in the market. It is up to the public like this writer to help inform their friends and invite them to such meetings.
Hopefully, this is the beginning, not end of such meetings. The above are my personal views and not that of the PTC.
And an observation by Dr Choong Sim Poey:
Most locals (present) were supportive – that finally congestion was going to be rationally addressed. This proposal has been mooted by STEP working with Dr Teng since 1990; discussed many times but never fully implemented. Once there was a short trial run in Gurney Drive but the government backed down (in the face of) public objections.
As for me, I just want to add that I am looking forward to future sustainable transport moves by the Transport Council, especially if it involves converting certain streets of George Town into pedestrian malls, providing bicycle lanes and promoting wider use of public transport.
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….er…surely the logic of having public roads is that they are meant to be uncongested so as to allow their primary purpose objective to be achieved i.e. that of movement of traffic along those busy, public thouroghfares for which people pay vehicle duties/road taxes and tolls. So if some inconsiderate/selfish person or just a plain idiot possibly, thinks that he/she can block that traffic movement and cause obstruction, then surely what those charged by the general public with looking after those public roads and traffic movement ought to do is to INFORM the general public in PT that they can’t… Read more »
Today the MPPP started to implement the tyre clamping policy. It seem like the so called public consultation is just for show. Is there any report being draft to outline out various points that had been raised? What is PTC’s justification for the tyre clamping? The PTC doesn’t even has the courtesy to make public the finding of the so called public consultation. Poor public participation should not be the excuse to ignore any view from the public.
I live in Pulau Tikus and somehow did not find out about the meeting until it was all over. I’d like to be there for future meetings. Online communication is an idea worth pursuing. Thanks soohuey for write up and anil for posting. I like the waiting bays at jalan pasar idea. I think that enforcement with presence of MPPP enforcers and traffic police will be the key to de-congesting, not tyre clamps. I share soohuey’s doubts regarding effectiveness of tyre-clamps. If the objective is to ensure smooth flow of traffic, then the focus should be on methods to keep… Read more »
Very soon I will be going “home” to Pulau Tikus. Currently in Klang. I find the traffic tolerable even though I go back home during public holidays. So what is the gripe.?
Maybe we can organise a volunteer traffic corp to direct the traffic. especially at Jalan Pasar which only occur in the morning.
I happen to frequent the Pandarmaran market on Sundays.
There are Rela officers at every road juction. Traffic is still choatic but passable. Need some patience.
Haha! Maybe its all relative. Penang is not so bad coz you’re coming from Klang? You bring up a good point, Chan. ~7 yrs ago, I used to wait along Jalan Pasar on the weekends. There was often MPPP men there to move traffic along. In more recent years, traffic has became too bad for me to bother waiting. Since I don’t wait there anymore, I’m not sure if MPPP still sends people there to move traffic. I don’t know if it’s just me, but I can’t recall seeing MPPP personnel moving traffic or fining cars in a long time….… Read more »
Mr.Ong Eu Soon, good suggection but I don’t think it will work at this particular stretch of road. As the cars that parked along this stretch will normally won’t parked for long, like they go and get something from the shop and jump in and go, probably it will about 10-15mins period. If then, do you think people will engage in the valet parking? If people go for meal, that will take about half and hour, then it will work.
Example of VALET PARKING SERVICE APPLICATION PROCEDURES
http://www.ci.royal-oak.mi.us/portal/webfm_send/76
Downtown Haverhill plans valet parking
Pull right up and they’ll park your car
http://www.eagletribune.com/punewshh/local_story_281031008.html
There is even a valet parking for bikes, read http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1625309,00.html
Take a glimpse on how valet parking is implemented
http://www.okc.gov/AgendaPub/cache/2/4plvaj452fh3pdml4sazzpij/461469101320090806576.PDF
Thank you for the links, Mr Ong.
Valet parking for bikes is really something only the strange ppl of California can come up with!
However, I’m very interested in the Bike Stations. It’s made it to #1 of things I’d like to see in strategic positions in Penang. Big investment needed to build and equip, but excellent potential!
Please note the one in Chicago in particular. Can always rely on LA to be weird and Chicago to be impressive!
http://www.bikestation.com/
http://www.chicagobikestation.com/articles.htm
Here are my experience speaking as one of the resident who resides in Pulau Tikus. a) If you want to know why there are traffic jams between Codrington Avenue and Brown Road, all you have got to do is to take a walk from point to point. Along the way, you will notice that tehre are double line in front of the shop houses opposite the police station. Most of the people will not park long enough to go somewhere else and not return on time for you to clamp the car. They are those waiting for pick ups and… Read more »
If the ideas of charging exorbitant charges thru’ tyre-clamping or charging a high parking rate to deter parking at the main roads can be entertained. There is no reason that valet parking services can’t be considered. What will be the rate for unclamping the tyre of illegal parked vehicle? The rate of valet parking service will be cheaper. If the service is a joint venture from the businesses and hawkers at the areas, they can enjoy a better rate while providing a service that get rid of vehicle parked along the main roads.
I think all ideas should be considered and investigated for feasibility and effectiveness. Different people come up with different ideas, so its good for everyone to contribute their thoughts. Hopefully ideas here, even if they aren’t adopted, will convey sentiments of the people. 😉
Why do you need a big establishment to run a valet service? A few runners with motorbikes will do the job. Cars can be parked at nearby parking space. Valet parking service is a very common solution for narrow roads in big cities of western countries. The main purpose is to get rid of cars that stop at the road side. That is how you can ensure smooth traffic flow. The simple hawkers only want the convenient of parking their vehicles, either the authorities entertain their request and end up with traffic jam, or figure out a better solution to… Read more »
Polis matters are all linked to Gerakan as they are part of BN Government. dammn the inaction of UMNo/Gerakan because they wanted to make the Polis happy…. So Who is really to blame? All the talk but cannot see the rafters in the eyes but can see the needles in the State Government. Blind men leads blind men/women. Guys just cannot differentiate, local, state and Federal depts.
First of all, I would congratulate the PTC for convening this meeting with the stakeholders to seek their opinion and ideas although the YBs should have shown better commitment for being punctual. I travel Pulau Tikus almost every day since I’m living in Tg Bungah. I agree with Soo Huey’s “Why it will “work” and then won’t work”; also SHTan’s reply that “the pathetic excuses given by the Traffic chief that they cannot issue summonses for waiting and obstructing traffic”. What is the point of the traffic signs when enforcement is not possible? This problem of congestion has been there… Read more »
Agree with Ong Eu Soon that most of these people are busy bodies, most probably retirees with nothing better to do. If they stay at home, the wife would nag them, the kids would avoid them, so they just hang around in clubs to create trouble or attending such forums. Let the government and MPPP and police handle, they have plenty of resources.
Soo Huey, please stand as a candidate in the next General Elections with the primary theme “Resolving Penang’s traffic problems” and see how many people would vote for you. Perhaps the Dr Lim and Dr Chong could also stand for elections with the same theme too.
Then you can clear the junctions of Jones Road, Bangkok Lane, etc…
If there are local council elections, I will run.
Penang Forum is an initiative of a group of busybody NGOs. If the state government is serious in public participation and consultation, the role of moderator can be assinged to Penang Forum. Using the blog of Penang Forum to initiate any issue that need public participation and consultation will be a very cost effective and efficient solution.
If you need an example of valet parking, go to jln Imbi in KL, you can see how the initiative is done by a private restaurant to solve the illegal parking problem.
PTC only need to identify and designate the stretch of road as valet parking areas. Draw up a plan on the service rate and guideline for privatising the services.
Senior citizens and disable persons can benefited tremendously from valet parking; a special rate can be given. Other strong and health citizens will have to bear the social responsibility by paying more for the valet services. Those who refuse to use the valet parking, they have the option of parking their cars by themselves and walk the distance. No tow truck, tyre-clamping, or police is needed. All those are brain-dead ideas from the previous state government, why bother to continue what KTK has left-off.
Valet parking can also be privatised to the resident associations of the particular locality. The money collected can be used to upgrade whatever infrastructures that are needed in that areas. The service charges of valet parking may be higher but the service render will be worth for customers to pay for.
Only this type of self-sustained activities can ensure the smooth flow of our traffic without too much intervention from the authorities.
Regarding Jln Pasar, normally the first row on the left handside are parked by the traders and some at the opposite side near the rubbish bin. The 2nd row of parking are normally parked by those illegal trader (traders outside the market, they trade there unitil we do not have place to parked our motorbike). Your suggestion are good but if there are no enforcement, then it will back to square one. Like what Sunny says “If we have problem issuing tickets to illegally parked cars, there is no hope that clamping will be the solution”. But for this case,… Read more »
Soohuey’s idea on time limited parking with high charges will not work better than valet parking. With valet parking as provided by hotels, restaurants, and airports, no waiting zones are needed at all. Those who manage the service will be there to chase away any illegal parking. Customers will have the convenient of having their cars parked else where without having to walk a long distance. This is especially helpful for disable person and a special discount can be given too. The state government will not find it hard to privatise the valet parking services.
Thanks for your comments, Ong Eu Soon. I imagine a valet parking establishment would be reasonably big (for someone to bother with the investment). However, the time-limited parking was mentioned to address Jones Road, where there is limited land and space in the area. The businesses are simple hawkers who are unlikely to be bothered with valet parking services. The idea to use the land where abandoned houses are currently sited is really a desperate attempt to address a desperate situation. Its not a long street, so that land is ideal to address both ends of the street. It’s close… Read more »
If we have problem issuing tickets to illegally parked cars as it is, there is no hope that clamping will be the solution. Maybe it will work but only the first few months.
All we need is disipline in our enforcement agencies.
Hi everyone, Arguably, the most congested road junction in Pulau Tikus area is that at Jones Road and Kelawei Road junction! At this junction, the ‘illegal hawkers’ ply their trade, even putting many tables and chairs on the road proper, with customers even double-parking, mind you not waiting in their cars, at the juntion! You can even seen police personnel, top civil servants being among the clientele of these hawkers, oblivious to possible danger of cars/vehicles knocking them down while they’re enjoying their food! This traffic-heavy junction poses very real danger to motorists using it. The situation there has been… Read more »
Jones Road is the reason I found it amusing that anyone should think Bangkok Lane is bad.. I frequent both ends of Jones Rd. To be honest, I love the food and people at the Kelawai Rd end so much that I can understand why police and high officials are reluctant to clamp down on them. I would love for these hawkers to stay too… Hence, we need to find a solution where they can stay and cars going to their business can find a place to park. I think that will be the only acceptable solution without strong backlash.… Read more »
Btw, besides having recently made acquaintance with a few people from Aliran and Jerit, my views are completely independent from theirs. Any similarity in views are evidence that the problems we face, their cause and potential solutions are obvious and clear to any intelligent person. I’m intentionally making this point because I want people to realise that you don’t need to be an activist, you don’t need to be part of a civil society group to be able to critically examine issues affecting your life, understand issues, form your own opinions and speak up on changes you’d like to see.… Read more »