It appears that even in the US, things are beginning to change. First there was Jon Stewart taking on the business of self-defence and the one-sidedness of US officialdom especially in relation to the recent invasion of Gaza. Now, it’s the turn of ’60 Minutes’ over CBS…
Is the tide turning?
Says CBS in the synopsis of its documentary:
Getting a peace deal in the Middle East is such a priority to President Obama that his first foreign calls on his first day in office were to Arab and Israeli leaders. And on day two, the president made former Senator George Mitchell his special envoy for Middle East peace. Mr. Obama wants to shore up the ceasefire in Gaza, but a lasting peace really depends on the West Bank where Palestinians had hoped to create their state. The problem is, even before Israel invaded Gaza, a growing number of Israelis and Palestinians had concluded that peace between them was no longer possible, that history had passed it by. For peace to have a chance, Israel would have to withdraw from the West Bank, which would then become the Palestinian state.
It’s known as the “two-state” solution. But, while negotiations have been going on for 15 years, hundreds of thousands of Jewish settlers have moved in to occupy the West Bank. Palestinians say they can’t have a state with Israeli settlers all over it, which the settlers say is precisely the idea.
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Jason, just read the book ‘Palestine Peace Not Apartheid’ by former US president Jimmy Carter, try to understand what ‘forces’ him to write that book, and look at what happened to him after publishing that book, and all these sum up the state of Mid-East politics in the US and the media control and influence of the Israeli interest groups.
Are surgical strikes specifically targeted at terrorists hiding – alongside their weaponry (you guess it, including rockets) – in residential buildings, mosques, schools, zoos, you name it every single place where civilians or non-combatants terrorism? Is the act of bombing a targeted area with leaflets warning residents there to flee terrorism? If, in your opinion, the above which you cite, are not acts of terrorism, we understand the word differently. But please don’t use the term “surgical strikes” to justify mass murder. There is nothing surgical about killing innocents huddled together in ghettos just as there is nothing surgical when… Read more »
It’s almost inevitable that Christians will support Israel – and the USA – without question. If the Europeans wanted the Jews to have a homeland they should have found some place in Europe for them. Instead the Jews are shoe-horned into the Middle East to be a “watchdog” for the West. When the Muslims objected, they are “denying Israel’s right to exist”! Therefore, Hamas, which was democratically chosen by the Gazans to be their representative is immediately labeled a “terrorist” organisation and nobody is allowed to speak to them. Instead all financial aid is cut and Israel starts a suffocating… Read more »
Jason Loh: “The US media has either been for OR against Israel. You know that Anil. No need to twist the picture. ”
Al’Nil knows alright but he simply has to do that for reasons best known to himself.
Which terrorists you should not support? All of them. Period. Why support terror in the first place? Doesn’t Mumbai ring any bell to you? Why listen to lies about Israel and ignore the oppression of Hamas against their own people? Are surgical strikes specifically targeted at terrorists hiding – alongside their weaponry (you guess it, including rockets) – in residential buildings, mosques, schools, zoos, you name it every single place where civilians or non-combatants terrorism? Is the act of bombing a targeted area with leaflets warning residents there to flee terrorism? Was the whole of Gaza bombed? Was Gaza City… Read more »
Terrorism? Terrorists? Killing babies from the air is not terrorism? Using banned chemicals on people is not terrorism? Taking over your home and land by force is not terrorism? Forcing people to dig tunnels to bring in daily necessities is not terrorism? Pray tell me Jason, which terrorists should we NOT support? Those who have been labeled as terrorists by the pro-occupation camp or those similarly labeled by ones in the occupied territories? Oh yes, about the Holocaust, (please note the spelling Sam) The six million number bandied about by some jews and their sympathizers “cannot be independently verified”. (That… Read more »
Hamdi, listen very carefully … stay here, don’t go away listen … now, you must recognise that neither you nor your fellow Muslims would want to live under Hamas or the Taliban. Don’t side-step the issue. Self-denial is perhaps the worst thing for you to commit, in relation to the problem afflicting the Palestinians. You want to see the Palestinians succeed, stop supporting the terrorists. There can never be peace when the aim is the destruction of the State of Israel. Think, not emote. Both sides have their share of responsibility. Not one side. Remember, the world is not against… Read more »
Hamdi, So there is another problem here. Please do differentiate between Religion, race and language. All Palestinians are not Muslims and all muslims are not Arabs, and All Arabs are not Muslims. WHy are you making this a religious issue? So, you are saying it is okay to throw acid on the faces of young girls who go to school in Kabul? This was reported by Al-Jazeera and not the Pro-Western media. It was also reported over TV3. It was reported in Al-Jazeera that Even Saudi Arabia, Eygpt and Jordan were very uncomfortable with Hamas operating in their backyard. That… Read more »
Jon Stewart and many ‘liberals’ news like PBS (Public Broadcasting Service – Channel 13), have over the years been impartial on their reporting of the Palestine-Israel Conflict.
Its just that we don’t see these information.
Jason, I see that you do not understand muslim teachings and objectives. Neither do you know about Hamas nor Taliban except from the distorted news controlled by some people. Try to get news and views from true muslims who have had first hand experience with them. Listen carefully. Please do not talk about things that you do not know nor understand in great detail, as if you are an expert. As it will only make you… look like an uneducated person on the subject. And you are making it even worst when you say you are working for UM. Our… Read more »
Hmmm… So in the same way, Samraj, the Holocust never happened. It is all a fabrication of Jason.
Samraj, you are right, only thing I will say is your biased and skewed knowledge is also a dangerous thing.
If you want to talk about Google, go and look up at Wikipedia. Wikipedia has no axe to grind, as they say. And point out where Wikipedia and I disagree. No point talking about vague generalities.
Look up on the Peel Commission, Balfour Declaration, British Mandate of Palestine, UN Partition of 1947, the Arab-Israeli War of 1948, the Wars of 1956, 1967 and 1973. Better, go back to the Ottoman Empire. Better still, go back to BEFORE the Ottoman Empire.
Jason has just rewritten history. Perhaps its time for him to go back to school on this. For starters, he can google the origins of Palestine, the jewish problem in Europe during hitler’s reign and after WW2, the British solution to cleanse Europe of the jewish problem through Balfour, the several UN resolutions, the role of the AIPAC in US Congressional matters, the role of the arab dictatorships in Saudi arabia and egypt vis-a-vis the palestinian refugee problem, the story of george habash, the PFLP and the PLF, the ideology of zionism etc… A little knowledge is a dangerous thing… Read more »
Mustakim says everything there is about the pro-Palestinian cause. I am a Chinese Christian working for University of Malaya. Listen carefully, I bet you your very own life that you would never ever want to live under Hamas or Taliban, however you may rant and rave about Israel.
i bet jason loh is a jewish man masquerading as a malaysian rock star…
thanks for the history jason … it’s important that we all acknowledge what really happened and opportunity missed for the formation of the palestinian state than to wrongly support either party for sake of Islam or Christianity or Zionism or Terrorism …
I think in today’s conflict, it’s important to understand the historical aspect of what happened before we say Israel is killing islam or islam is terrorising christians …
The US media has either been for OR against Israel. You know that Anil. No need to twist the picture. The left and far-right have always been against Israel. You know that, Anil. The thing is this: The settlements only occured when Israel was attacked (again) by Egypt and Jordan in 1967. The war gave Israel the opportunity to (re)gain West Bank and Gaza, which prior to that it had no intention of “occupying” save for the whole of Jerusalem for obvious symbolic and historical reasons. Jordan no longer claim administrative ties to West Bank. The emergence of a Palestinian… Read more »
Jason, just to clairfy some history for you. Israel was not attacked in 1967. It launched a preemptive strike that began the 6 day war. As for the idea of a Palestinian state being rejected and accepted by Israel instead, again that information is incorrect. The land was orginally promised to create a Palestinian nation, than at the sametime was also promised to Israel in the Balfour Declaration of 1917 which stated “His majestys governement view with favour the establishement in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people….”. So since you say there was no Palestine (which is… Read more »
this is what you get fair media when you get the right people to be incharge …americans voted right for obama … we need to vote right for PR ….sack the BN … if we want to see any progress in this country …