Bala left for fish-head curry in Brickfields: Americk
He had friendly phone chat with ASP who wanted to congratulate him for first SD, says lawyer
(Press statements by Americk and Sivarasah)
At a press conference now going on at 5.30pm, P Balasubramaniam’s lawyer Americk Singh Sidhu has cast doubt on the private eye’s second statutory declaration.
After spending hours with Bala taking notes of his testimony previously and being familiar with his character, Americk said, ” I am very sceptical that he has signed the second statutory declaration of his own free will and I am convinced he has been intimidated to do so by either threats or promises, as I can think of no other reason.”
He said Bala had signed the first declaration in front of a commissioner of oaths - someone whom Bala recognised as having grown up in the same Slim River neighbourhood as himself - on his own free will.
“I am therefore extremely surprised that Mr. Bala, in the space of 24 hours, has engaged the services of another lawyer and affirmed another statutory declaration swearing the first one was untrue and that he was forced to sign it,” said Americk.
The last Americk saw Bala was in Americk’s office after the press conference. Bala said the police were trying to contact him over the phone. Americk then told Bala to talk to them since they were trying to reach him.
Bala then spoke to the ASP and left at around 4.45pm. Americk assumed he was going to meet the ASP at about 6.30pm as they had been talking about having fishhead curry at Brickfields, said the lawyer.
Bala didn’t seem to be apprehensive about the ASP; he seemed to know him quite well. From the conversation on the phone, Americk said it sounded jovial and happy, and the ASP seemed happy that Bala had made the SD.
It sounded like the ASP wanted to see Bala to congratulate him for what he had done. “That was the impression I got,” said Americk.
Americk said he had spent a few hours each on two or three earlier occasions talking to Bala and taking down notes. “He gave me the impression that he wanted to do the right thing.” His impression was that Bala was trustworthy.
To a question from reporters, Americk confirmed that he doesn’t belong to any political party. “I am totally apolitical and I am only concerned about what is right.”
PKR vice-president Sivarasah Rasiah said the question wasn’t relevant as Americk was there in his capacity as Bala’s lawyer.
“I am very troubled that last night, one way or another, and true to Mr. Bala’s concerns, another crime was committed,” said Sivarasah. The crime was something which caused Bala this morning to retract the statements he made on 1 July 2008 and revealed publicly yesterday, he added.
“In particular we have taken notice that line by line the specific statements that were revised in Bala’s new statement have selectively removed those which specifically implicate the Deputy Prime Minister by name,” said Sivarasah. That crime could be intimidation or inducement, he pointed out. “It is important for us to reject that message of intimidation.”
Americk’s lawyer who was also present said that Americk was carrying out his duties as Bala’s lawyer and reiterated that the first statutory declaration was voluntarily signed before the commissioner of oaths.
Just before the press conference ended, Sivarasah said people could judge for themselves from Bala’s expression and demeanour when he was telling the truth - yesterday or today.
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Now does it not look odd that Americk Singh ‘dropped’ his client at the police station and then sped off, instead of being by his side, to ensure the police could not have intimidated Bala?
Sounds like that famous call by that USA General from West Point to his troops in Vietnam, ‘chase the gooks all the way to hell, we’re right behind you all the way, MEN!’
Barring that quirk Singh will have some explaining to get out of, the SD retraction and re-issue raises more questions than providing clear answesr. We seem to have one of the most pro-active (when it suits them)and persuasive police force in the world.
AS for the dpm, he is not quite out of the woods yet. How come he first said only his asst. met that sighing fool and he only accommodated a photo request, but conveniently forgot to mention that private tete-a-tete at his house. How did that sighing fool find a back-door entry to the dpm’s house just like that? And the dpm ony offered him synpathies but no solid avenue for JUSTICE?
Sure. And my grandma can whack Federer at tennis!
A statutory declaration to change a statutory declaration. A lawyer to represent a lawyer.
Excuse the pun………Malaysia BOLEH!
wat americk is saying is actually based on his own opinion and therefore considered as hearsay. why should we believe him?
i dont knwo wat is wrong with sivarasa… MEMBABI BUTA claiming there was a crime…
IF DOESN’T KNOW WATS GOING ON, PLEASE DO NOT SIMPLY TELL EVERYONE THERE WAS A CRIME BEING COMMITTED! HIS BLIND ACCUSATIONS IS MAKING ME PUKE!
this isvara should be sent to jail for this. IDIOT! Don’t simply say things without any proof la tamby!
Nothing to say anymore.
I am under duress.
rajraman.The devil also stop poking.
Something to say,
To many liars around.i just dont know who to believe.
rajraman.anil do u haris ibrahim whats happening to my dream.?
Like it or not, Bala had just added some garram massala into his Mongolian soup.The aroma is stronger now.
It is better to admit the wrong rather than continue to spin and spin.
Why is Anwar not at the Press Conference just now on the retraction of Bala SD. He left Sivarasa, Americk and Manjit Singh to be the puppet to answer the journalist. Why is Anwar running away from the PC? It was difference when Bala made the initial SD, where PKR MPs attend in full force.
This is troubling for a PM in waiting?
He hide at the Turkey Embassy when Saiful made the sodomy police report. And he dare not face the media at the Press conference.
He need to display some better quaility of a leader.
“wat americk is saying is actually based on his own opinion and therefore considered as hearsay. why should we believe him?” - bug***
He is speaking from his own experience which is not hearsay. Hearsay is what you hear from a third party. Educate yourself!
We the rakyat in tangling in between the evil and good. Totally confused. Will the JUST BALA pls stand up and say the truth!
Pls don’t play with the rakyat, doesn’t matter who is wrong, just tell the truth. We dun care whether is the DPM or Anwar, we just want the real answer!
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This is last time I’m having fish head curry in case it causes me to turn away from God. Not really
http://www.god.tv
It’s obvious what happened when he went to see the police at 4.45 pm that day after the PC. He (could have been) coerced into retracting everything about Najib. (Perhaps) that’s why Najib appeared cool and calm and smiling at 7.30 pm when he faced the press on Thursday evening?
How do you coerce a person into saying anything? You can threaten him or you can give him money. With the right amount of money, anyone would succumb.
You couldn’t imagine how low (anyone) could stoop to get away with crime.
This is the ultimate test of what the government would do to stay in power… Until yesterday, I thought there was still hope for Pakatan Rakyat to bring justice and freedom to this country. But today’s episode tells me that there is no hope anymore.
My personal observations;
1.I am shocked to know about the revelations done by PKR. On second thoughts, and after deep thinking, these are only ‘hearsay’. Anyone can say anything and accuse anyone but the onus is to proof them. Is this party good at responding to words of say?
2.If the private investigator (PI) had used the PKR platform to announce what he knew, how come PKR never stand by him during his ordeal in the police station? Like candle light vigil which they usually do? Are they practicing discrimination already?
3.Only the lawyer confirmed he dropped the PI at the police station. Can anyone confirm how long he was there? I still find it hard to accept how a reputable lawyer could just ‘dropped’ his client at the police station after a ‘sensational’ public announcement!
4.I wonder did the lawyer concerned inform PKR personnels? If yes, why no follow up and information being passed around? If not, why? This questioned the responsibility of the lawyer and the party concerned. Can I assume that the witness is no longer relevant after the announcement? Is this the REAL attitude of the party people?
5.Could this be another drama to put the authorities in the bad lime light? Another strategy to gain political vote?
6.As a Rakyat, I like the idea of the petrol reduction once they are in power. However, they did not reveal how much are they reducing. Three sen per liter? Five sen per liter? In my humble opinion, they got to be more specified in whatever they say in the future. If it is RM1 per liter, then I believe this is the Rakyat party otherwise it will be just another political party.
Simple … just ask yourself which SD is more reliable, SD1 or SD2. Must choose, not allowed to say both unreliable. Now, which one?
On SD2 - why is it so important that all references to Najib were removed? Under duress or not I don’t know but there must be something that motivated Bala to do both SDs.
he says..she says..but how could the lawyer not be curious that the ASP “seemed happy that Bala had made the SD” - just sounds odd to me. I suppose whoever who planned this had it backfired on him. Maybe Bala was thinking of those young children of his when he made the decisions to retract..he’s just a pawn in this high stake game after all.
Here is a well educaTED advice to all PKR and pakatan leadership.
Next time a Bala makes a statutory declaration, MAKE SURE YOU HAVE AT LEAST 100 witness complete with AT LEAST 10 video cameras, focussing on all direction, namely
1. Balas pen as hie sign, to see if its shaking
2. Bala’s face to see if its under duress
3. Bala’s whole body to study body language
4. All the people around him to show there is no gun pointed at his head
5. another camera pointed at the faces of lawyers watching him sign and make statements
6. A camera focussed on both Bala and Anwar
7. Another vediocam focus on all surrounding to see if their are cops or special branch monitoring the events, if they hide their faces… they are sure spies.
8. Another came monitoring all the ceilings and walls in case these also have eyes and ears
9. Another one monitoring Balas wife and family while he makes his voluntary declaration
10. lastly a roving camera to spot anything else extraordinary at that time…
Then if Bala makes other declaration at different venues afterwards, all that will be invalid.
and post all the videos in the U tube and other sites hosting videos
HOWEVER if this Bala really was SPEAKING, DECLARING WITH A FORK TONGUE… then I am very sorry guys…
OOPs I FORGOT to add, i make the comments above based on 50 years of BN govt dictatorial system,,, and experiences over that time
where is the laws ???
All can play play one ah ????
M’sia boleh !!!!!!!
Is that a way of making fast money ??????
Can i try also ???????
Please adivce.
indian if you are that stupid than keep your ignorance to yourself, there is a chinese saying, if you open your mouth and utter rubbish, than don’t be surprised of being called stupid, there is a (possible) case of intimidation here and here you are blasting off at sivarasa, who is the babi-buta now fool-cj, if you don’t get this you never will!
let a neutral body investigate both the first SD and the second SD. Bala is not insane to come up with the first SD. there must be some truth in it as he was the man all along with razak baginda. he should know the script well. americk and sivaras do not need to educate themselves as they are lawyers who were just stating what transpired out of the SD and what happened next. you don’t have to be a lawyer to understand the grand drama involving the murder of this poor mongolian lad. justice has to prevail. the police no 2 has said that they are going to investigate both. why? (perhaps) he could sense somwthing fishy with the second SD. please for god sake investigate and come out with some truth or otherwise. it must be a truly impartial investigation involving disintersted parties.
Obviously this Americk Singh is not the Hindraf kind……basically no b****……
[...] Who actually lied? Posted in ALTANTUYA SHARIIBUU, ELECTIONS GENERAL, HEADS UP!, MALAYSIAN MADNESS, MEDIA, NEWS, OPPOSITION POLITICS, POLICE, POLITICAL by sloone on July 4th, 2008 “Bala left for fish head curry in Brickfields. He had a friendly chat with an ASP who wanted to congratulate him on his first SD”. The the next day…he made a new one. Read more @ Anil Netto. [...]
The entire nation of people are all rilled up. There are for and against arguments to the day-to-day sendiwara unfolding.
Bottomline: We must establish a common premise to argue. And that common premise would be: WHAT SHOULD OUR APPOINTED AND ELECTED LEADERS BE DOING?
Going by the pile up of s*** all around us, it is an easy guess that we are suks to the world.
While the world is busy geraing its resources and strengths to face uncertain times ahead, we are witnessing a script that even Bollywood or Hollywood Directors would find most ridiculously intriguing.
We have put to shame even the Watergate and even Clinton-gate scandals. Well done to our leaders!
So, to all those who people on both sides of the fence, what is your take now?
Anil,
I posted a comment here last night but it did not appear. Did you spike it. If so, why?
If no reply is forthcoming, let this be my last post in your blog.
Sorry, I was erring on the side of caution. Hope this won’t be your last comment. - Anil.
Is the same as with Anwar case. We all know that he was framed by that little Saiful but he did not retracted his charges. Now the Bala who first said that Najib was involved in the case, now retracted his SD, due to what (some believe to be) pressure from him. Anwar has no power, that’s why anyone or any cat and dog can allege him of wrong doing.
BTW, there’s really some mistake from the lawyer Amick and PKR part for not accompanying Bala while at the Police Station. You know la.. anything can happens there, scary thing; that’s other case with RPK (dia takkan tunduk).
But for sure, we the rakyat wouldn’t know the true, as far as we are all concerned, something fishy, sorry lot of fishies going on even on the trial itself, if you follow it long enough; changes in prosecution lawyer, jugdges and even there was one time where Razak Baginda (was said to have) cursed our GREAT PM and this news has been blocked, The Sun has to stop its distribution. How come Najib or the Governm never talked about this?? This is the whole question here.
On the sodomy of anwar, if he really has done that, do you think his wife and family will stand by his side? Certainly, won’t. The foreign media has even done a coverage on Anwar case few years ago and all those people who once portrayed as witness and victims, then said that they were forced with a gun on the forehead. How about that???
Midnight blue
Walking on the roads
Listen to the insects
Flying along with me
Trying hard to remember
Why the politicians never get it right?
Lies after lies they brew to the people
Why can’t they tell the truth for once?
The silent wind blowing
Rising cool effect feeling chill
Yet on the silent roads
Dogs and cats roam
In the newspapers headlines
‘Heads On and PI retracts’
The truth becomes real
As the sound lingering louder
I turn around jump onto the side road
Cursing expletives shouting until I am coarse
Yet I am alive…………..walking on the street
Midnight blue
I see lovers in the dark bushes
Will they know what will happen?
Laws have no eyes and ears
When it comes severe punishment rules
As I walk
My mind drumming it away
Oh midnight blue……..
Life is full of hope
You can’t take it
Not for millions years
Fish curry my food. More likely curry with the shark, thereafter he changed his mind real quick.
Previously it was one police report after another. Now it is one statutory declaration after another.
Rakyat sudah letih-lah. Can form government , quickly form-lah. Main-main semua ini tak baik untuk rakyat dan negara.
Remark by someone I spoke to recently on whether Anwar is really mr.clean :
“Between the devil and the deep blue sea - we had tried the devil for 50 years, it is time to give the deep blue sea a try.”
Who knows we may find more oil in the deep blue sea 8-).
If can form government, form-lah. Jangan cakap sahaja.
By: Francis on July 4, 2008
at 10:32 am
Few observations though:
Since we are talking about two SD, let’s examine certain points.
1. Yesterday, he was all happy and chatted with every journalist, local and foreign.
Today, he refused to talk or take a single question from anyone.
2. Yesterday, his meeting was announced 24 hrs before it was scheduled.
Today’s meeting was in obscure hotel where few journalists were called in.
3. Yesterday, he was a happy man, vety jovial and chattery.
Today, BN newspaper the Star wrote that he “was visibly perturbed”
4. Yesterday, he has informed the people and the journalists who were the people who have jailed him, harassed him, omitted his evidence and maltreated him.
Today, he didn’t say who has forced him. Who has given instructions. Who has mistreated him. He simply refused to talk but run out of the hall visibly disturbed with deep eyes.
5. Yesterday, he didn’t meet the police before he released his SD in front of world media and local as well,
Today (yesterday’s night) he has spent in BrickFields where he was immediately summoned after he has released his SD and was taken to the station by his former lawyer.
6. Yesterday, he has released a comprehensive SD touching on Najib, Musa Safri, Baginda, Police, Prosecution, Witnesses (etc),
Today, he has released the same SD but the parts that referred to Najib removed. All other people were retained. (Ha ha! I wonder who advises these people.)
7. Yesterday, he was a well combed man, with office shirt- and well prepared
Today, he was wearing a dirty T-Shirt with a cap and a was acrrying a plastic bag (black). As his new lawyer talked, he didn’t talk, chat, look up, greet or handshake anyone unlike yesterday.
……..These are simple observations that any intelligent being can pick and realise what’s going on. Furthermore, it is not Bala or Anwar who is in charge of the Defence, Security, Intelligence, Criminal and Justice system of this country but the 3 men accused of conspiracy and evidence manipulation. (Najib, Musa and Patail). You don’t need a child to know who uses force. It is not Anwar who seeks shelter at Embassies fearing for himself but the men who exercise that power over the said institutions.
PS: The Deputy PM doesn’t need Bala to retract any statement which is a perjury now and a criminal act in the penal code. He only needs to file a defamtion suit. Can’t he? If yo are innocent, why trouble yourself with Bala? Just go to the court and said you were defamed and there you go and get your due. When he was asked yesterday, he refused to file a suit, just like he and Rosmah refused to file a defamation suit against Raja Petra. If people are mudslinging you, insulting, incriminating you, and you are innocent, why not seek justice? It is because he knows in courts evidence will be produced…, (perhaps) he hopes that by simply denying SDs and refusing to file suits, things will get cooled and he will move on. Heavenly no. Malaysia’s name is at stake. It is not about him, about Anwar or Badawi. It is about this nation and its people.
NB: If he has no confidence in the judiciary of this country by refusing to seek justice at the courts by filing defamation suits against his accusers, who else will trust the regime? The dead? Oh, I’m sorry…we are alive. Thanks to God!
Left for curry fish , my foot. More like left to be with the sharks, thereafter he quickly changed his SD knowing fully well what sharks can do.
My dear Francis
Could your ‘observations’ possibly be an enactment of a drama script ‘well prepared’ by a ‘Master’ before the Public Announcement?
The Curry must have been too hot, burned Bala till he changed his mind.
Fella’s, isnt it obvious. Look at Bala in the first PC, jovial and happy, kind of a proud that he did it. Everybody has inner pride and conscience. On the other hand look at the second PC, he looks like someone who is at a funeral, in this case his own. I think we can safely conclude that the 1st SD was the right one.
And then revert to Najibs PC at 7 pm, supremely confident that the truth will prevail, possibly because he already knew about Bala’s 2nd SD.
It is too obvious and if taken together with other facts such as Najib’s conveniently not doisclosing that he met the a****** Saiful at his home. Wah! I must have been sleeping all this time, even small time BN leader also difficult to meet. Here DPM is so caring to (allegedly) sodomised useless fellows, next time in KL, must drop in to say Hi to DPM.
Think about it!!
Look at it again boys and gals:
By leaving Bala alone, Anwar and his group wanted to show one thing: that there is a (possibly) clear consistence of manipulation in the criminal justice system by Najib, Musa Hasan and Patail who are interestingly the least professional people we have ever heard. Anwar wanted to show that they (The police-Najib-Musa-Ghani) (allegedly) always fabricate evidence, manipulate the system and cow people. What makes it even more inspiring is that Bala just made his 1st SD in front of the world media while laughing and saying…“Oh, if you spend one night in those joils…you will sign…” (etc). So Anwar has scored big here. Even before the evidence is produced against Najib in relation to Altantuya, by (allegedly) forcing Bala to retract the parts that are related to Najib and leaving the rest in tact makes it more potent. ASP Tony who has jailed Bala before and Musa Safri of Najib’s office and all other accusations were left alone but Najib’s part removed. That there is (possible) clear conspiracy and consistent manipulation… The Star, a BN leaflet did a marvellous job by showing a dejected, teary-eyed and forlorn Bala crying to the Heavens unlike the earlier jovial, happy, chatty and engaging Bala the previous day. The damage has been done and I’m of the opinion that Anwar and co. (could have been) deliberate in releasing Bala so two objectives are attained:
1. To show the dark forces who manipulate the system, cow witnesses, omit evidences, conspire to cheat and deceive.
2. To discredit the SDs so that in order for Altantuya to get justice, the judge(s) will have to examine afresh and demand to know which SD represents the truth and this is what Najib is avoiding. He has avoided the matter going to court and that’s why he has refused to file defamation suit against Bala and Raja Petra despite the fact that he is obliged to do if he is innocent. In either way, the damage has been done, the manipulation (appears obvious) and there can no be conclusion to Altantuya’s case unless the SDs are examined by a court of law and lawyers and you know what that means and who has been doing all he can to avoid such outcome and fate.
Did Mr Bala indicate in any way to PKR leaders or to Americk that he needed their “protection”? Remember, he’s a PI, a former Special Branch guy who was employed by Razak Baginda to do the work of “protecting”. The police officer who called him and whom he was to meet was familiar to him, most probably a former colleague. If we overrule foul play on the part of the authorities, then his flip-flop could only be an elaborate ploy to cast doubt of Anwar Ibrahim’s credibility. But just look at the pictures from the two press conferences. Are’nt they proof enough which of two SDs were made under “duress”?
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Whether SD1 is true or not, a fictional conversation (between A and B) leading to it may be something as below.
A: “Just sign it. Don’t worry. RP did it. Nothing happens to him. What’s the worry? It’ll make you an instant hero overnight.”
B: “But Dato, I’ve no royal blood in me. The big guys will be less hesistant to slam me.”
A: “You are just worrying unnecessary. Didn’t you the 20000 people crowd that turned up at my rally? A new government will be formed soon and I will be the number 1 in charge. The current IGP will be removed… No need to worry too much. Just sign it.”
B: “What if the new government is formed two months’ time? It can on 16 September, right? Meantime, my family and I will be kaput. I don’t mean any disrespect, Dato. But after all, only last week, you were on the run yourself with your life threatened, how can you guarantee mine will not be in danger?”
A: “You worry too much. See nothing happens to me? I can get one of my many people I know at the many of the embassies here to issue you and your family an invitation to stay there until the new government is formed or until we receive assurances from the authority that you and family will be safe when you come out. Don’t worry. Trust me, just sign it.”
B: “Okay-lah. Let’s do it.”
The second lawyer Arulampalam who appeared with Bala at the second PC should be investigated by the Bar Council. What kind of lawyer will advise his client to commit perjury?
malaysiakini reports that Bala and his family are missing now. Hope nothing happens to him
We can C4 foreigners and take all the time to bring justice to count. Sherlock Holmes would be turning in his grave looking at the progress (or retrogress) here.
We can remove immigration records into thin air that even David Copperfield will go green with envy.
Now we have Bala missing and our super efficient police have turned to Interpol.
Indeed we are damn good. Tell me which country in the world carried the whole mattress into court as exhibit for an illicit sex crime? Malaysia did!
Tell me which country is busy chasing for more than a dozen witnesses to testify against butt poking? We did!
But tell me which country is not focussed on the on-going fuel and grain crisis and a looming natural calamity? Why look far my friends?!
In a nutshell, the Honorable PM owes all Malaysians an answer. No he owes us lots of answers. So Mr Prime Minister stop blaming the people. Blame your own men and women that YOU handpicked to form the cabinet.
PM blaims the bloggers for the current situation.
PM says to stop spreading rumours.
PM says the truth will be out.
BUT: what is PM’s meaning of truth?
Are we the RAKYAT suppose to accept everything you the PM or DPM, say to be the truth, as the REAL TRUTH. Well if everything in this country was more TRANSPARENT to the RAKYAT, then maybe we should accept what they claim as the truth, to be the truth. If you the PM and your SIL and DPM + all you UMNOPUTRA followers and BNPUTRA… + the … IGP and AGP + the … JUDICIARY SYSTEM, had been more RESPONSIBLE and HONEST to the RAKYAT, then maybe we should accept what you claim as the truth, to be the truth.
For now all the evidence and facts on the ground, are pointing to say that almost everything that comes out of the mouths of those UMNOPUTRAS and BNPUTRAS are worth less than the value of S***.
Will you PM, DPM, UMNOPUTRA and BNPUTRA, STOP INSULTING the RAKYATS INTELLIGIENCE. We the RAKYAT are no fools, you IDIOTS.
There was this movie about the emperor who sends assasins to kill off a high level ex royal physician who knows too much. The emperess in turn send her own men to protect him. It was a war by proxy. Sound and look familiar?
If Annuar can fear for his life so much as to seek shelter in the embassy; Bala must have felt such fear that he left with his family without trace; either he has been given a witness protection program or he is in hiding in case the C4 get to him as well. He has incurred the wrath of someone very powerful. Can the one who is more powerful but also tend to flip flop protect him? That the $64 million question.
THIS COUNTRY IS A JOKE