UN recognises Palestine after historic vote


The United Nations has implicitly recognised the state of Palestine after the General Assembly voted for a resolution to upgrade the Palestinian Authority’s diplomatic status to ‘non-member observer state’.

The result: 138 votes in favor, 9 against and 41 abstentions.

The United States voted against.

The vote comes 65 years after the partition.

The Vatican has hailed the outcome and called for “an internationally guaranteed special statute” for Jerusalem that would safeguard “the freedom of religion and of conscience, the identity and sacred character of Jerusalem as a Holy City, (and) respect for, and freedom of, access to its holy places”.

It also called for “effective commitment to building peace and stability, in justice and in the respect for legitimate aspirations, both of the Israelis and of the Palestinians”.

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  1. Some more: It was no accident that Mahmoud Abbas chose November 29 to seek a United Nations General Assembly vote recognizing Palestine as a state, albeit as a non-member “observer” state at the U.N. November 29 is the 65th anniversary of the General Assembly’s Resolution 181, which partitioned British-Mandated Palestine into Jewish and Palestinian states.

    The Jews accepted the Resolution; Arabs unanimously rejected it. It passed by a vote of 33-13 with 10 abstentions. Had the Arab world voted for the plan, a Palestinian state would be as old as Israel is today, and within larger borders than the 1949 Armistice lines that the Palestinian President now claims for his new, notional, “state.”

    Yet if Mr. Abbas intended to acknowledge the Arab error in rejecting the creation of a Jewish homeland, it wasn’t apparent Thursday. While he referred to Resolution 181 as “the birth certificate for Israel,” he also spoke of the “unprecedented historical injustice inflicted on the Palestinian people since Al-Nakba [the catastrophe] of 1948.” That would not have happened had the Arabs not sought to murder Israel in its crib by invading it.

  2. Today is the 65th anniversary of the passage of UN General Assembly Resolution 181 on the future status of British ruled.Palestine. Well, it seems that they failed to mention one quite significant element of the UN resolution (which passed with 33 votes in favor, 13 against, 10 abstentions and one absent). Res. 181 not only called for the creation of a Jewish state, but the creation of an Arab one as well. The Jews accepted partition.

    The Arabs didn’t accept partition, refused to compromise on any outcome other than a single unitary Arab state and launched a war when Israel declared independence in May, 1948. While the UN debates Palestinian statehood tonight in NYC, it’s important to remember that on this day, 65 years ago, a Palestinian state was offered by the international community, accepted by the Jews, but rejected by the Arabs.

  3. Wonder why people keep stirring up mud from the past and can’t move forward? Palestine has been recognized by the international community as a state. So be it. It is an acceptable reality and realistically both Israel and Palestine ( Mahmoud Abbas is Fatah and not Hamas) should take steps to lay down arms and start real peace negotiations, instead of Israel approving more settlements on the West Bank that is occupied territory (meaning it’s not legally theirs). If the UN GA had not taken this step, Israel and Palestine will continue scratching old sores to make them bleed, then keep blaming each other. Israel should be aware that it is now dealing mainly with Mahmoud Abbas from Fatah and not Hamas. so why is Hamas being played up? Get real, we should start talking peace instead of throwing mud and irritating others. Can’t any of them move beyond the BCs into the 21st century? Wish they’d grow up.

  4. SunnyOoi says:Zoinist propaganda machine all the same.; Guess you must be from Penang. The DAP has jumped on the band wagon demonizing Israel, guess it is the new way to gain votes. Anti Zionism is the new name for Anti Antisemitism, sounds more acceptable by your kind of a crowd (anti Semitics).

    • If the world continue to act blindly in denial-apologetic-phobic like Obama’s foreign policy for Middle East & skewed multi-culturalism in US, nothing civilised will come out of the conflicts. One glaring example is the recent Libyan fiasco of Obama’s croc’s tearful self denial of geopolitical reality.
      How becoming true by the hours is The Clash of Civilization by Samuel P. Huntington.
      Bravery of practice of principle of justice, truth, tolerance, freedom & sensibilities seems lacking, especially for some of those living in constant phobia of religious violence by putting up a front of appeasement against own moral conscience.
      The way it is, the world may need an implosion to bring about a clear sense of what we as God created-in-his-image beings are actually living for what purpose & for whom!
      If you live for a politically hijacked religious consensus or solution, too bad it may not last long.

      • If only the state of israel was set up in Frica instead of Middle East, the world would be more peaceful?

      • If Abraham had the patience & fortitude to follow God’s plan & not his wife’s suggestion & not in want of a child slept with Hagar the maidservant from Egypt, there would not be such a conflict to this day.
        And Africa is not God’s plan for the Israelites!

  5. By oppressing other people and trying to rationalise this oppression, you end up morally corrupting yourself.

    Israel’s continued occupation of the West Bank, together with the influx of right-wing settlers of the Gush Emunim type, has also poisoned Israel’s internal politics. What has become of the original Zionist socialist, kibbutzim-based Israel of David Ben Gurion?

    A two-state solution (Israel and a fully independent Palestine co-existing peacefully side-by-side) is the only way to go.
    logical way to go.

    • Peaceful coexistence is possible but not with continuous violence & terrorism with an aim to wipe off a legitimate nation/people from the map.
      History has shown the consistence oppressions by Ishmael descendants (Arabs) against Isaac’s (israelites) from Eqypt to Persia for thousand of years. This is no political or cultural expediency of any sensibility.

      Until a concrete, practical, peaceful bilateral agreement between Israelites & Palestinians (not a one sided Morsi + Hamas or Iranium engineered peace-with-threats of nuclear bombs) is signed with utmost sincerity, anybody’s act of self protection or preservation against foreign terrorism is still considered an oppression (?).
      Now, do you call the recent showering of hundreds of deadly missiles from Gaza & Lebanon against civilian territories in southern & northern Israel & Tel Aviv acceptable while an act of countering (Iron Dome) such aggression an act of oppression?

      If you have a neighbor who continues to throw stones or missiles at your house, what would you do? Give him your backyard?

  6. It is an abomination for the Arabs for Jews to live amongst their midst. One should also ask whatever happened to the Jews of Medina (Saudi Arabia), yes they lived there long before Islam was around. Even in their prayers 17 times a day they say, “”Guide us in the straight path, the path of those whom Thou hast blessed, not of those against whom Thou art wrathful, nor of those who are astray.” (1:6-7)? The wrath is for the Jews and Christians. It has everything to do with religion. There will never be peace there. Historically, there were millions of refugees of all shapes and sizes. They have moved on. The Palestinians are the longest living refugees made by the Arabs, to continue whipping up a frenzy against the Jews.

    • Zoinist propaganda machine all the same. Repeat same old arguments and ignore their own sins.

      Best solution still 67 border as agreed by UN. But surely not for Israel who wants more land, so the cycle continues.

  7. Will this solve the problem like Ex-Yugaslavia, which split up to smaller state to enable the peace?

    No, unlike Europe, I bet 2 cents with anyone, this is just start of new problem, Palesteinian go kill each other, Hamas vs PNA, and Hamas continue launch rocket they get from whatever source to Israel border.

    And somebody here please enlighten me, how Palesteinian can establish the economy when Hamas rocket PNA constitution, via versa?

    • Hamas manipulates Palestinian cause.
      Syria egg Hamas on to do the shooting.
      Iran supplies proxy aggressors Syria & Hamas & Hezbollah with arms & logistics & hatred doctrine to eliminate Israel from the map.
      And US aids the secret transfer of arms from Libya to the Syrian rebels via Sinai Peninsula some of which inadvertently ended in Gaza & West Bank. Go ask US Ambassador Christopher Stevens in his grave.
      Now, who is the real trouble maker in all of these conflagrations?

      Since Camp David, never has a single truce or temporary peace accord been observed by Palestinians. Go ask Yasser Arafat in his grave.
      When dealing with double dealers for peace, it’s better to be on vigilant guard, whether it be a humanitarian ship or camel caravan carrying suspicious cargoes labelled as aids for people.

  8. Is there a website where the excuses of those who voted against or abstained from the motion are recorded?

  9. Most of the rest of the world is just fed-up with both Israel and Palestinians. THEY WANT a two-state solution and peace.

    My personal view is that it goes beyond just religion or past scores. The relationship between Israel and Palestinians are dysfunctional. They hate each other but they can’t live without hating each other..Honestly modern politics and governance as well as modern economy can’t stand up against the dysfunctionality that is them..

    Honestly, what I would rather see is the world getting together and just telling the two-states – get their act together or the rest of the world will just give up on them..If we let ourselves get dragged into their dysfunctionality which is what the Muslim world has half their foot in already, its never going to end EVEN if there is two-state..

  10. Historic it is! Palestinians have gain dignity in the eyes of the international community they have been denied for well over 6+ decades! Hope this will revive negotiation for 2-State Solution with Israel and let there be peace but Palestine first needs to solve its domestic problem – reconciliation with HAMAS and through the ballot boxes!

  11. . Kevin:”Yes Israel never existed before and was carved out of nowhere using might and power”. It has existed for 4,000 years, many times the Jews were expelled. Do you know about Al Husseini the Mufti of Jerusalem? The guy who raised the Sabre Division of the Waffen SS, a Muslim Division for the Nazis? With the sole intention of exterminating Jews. What about the thousands of Jews who became refugees in Arab countries? What about Jerusalem, it was there the Jews built the first temple. Kevin, you are smoking too much of the … that the Malaysian and left wingers are peddling out, even the school textbooks.

    • Ok. Fair enough but like I have said if you talk about history, it can go way way back. If u go back 4000 years, another person can argue and go back 10, 000 years, and others can go back 20,000 years to the time when there was no Jews, Muslims or Christians. These ppl probably prayed to the trees or to stones and believed in spirits residing in plants. How far back is far enough? If we keep going back, people practicing Animism should claim the land as theirs. And the aborigines should form their own state in Australia and similarly the Red Indians in America. Also, Thailand should then reclaim Kedah and Kelantan which was once part of their territory. There will be no end to this sort of argument. So you see, the best solution is to forget about who conquered who or what and to then move on. Let Israel exist as it is but at the same time let the Palestinians have their own state. Isn’t that a peaceful solution? Whoever initiates violence after that will then be clearly seen as the guilty ones.

  12. I was wondering when you were going to post about this: UN vote recognizes state of Palestine, thus legitimizing Palestinian terrorism. Get over it, there was never a state called Pakistan, it was built on the blood of Hindus, likewise Turkey, there was never one, it was built on the blood of Christians. They do not go around instigating wars of hate, as Pakistan does until today. The Battle of Masada occurred from 73 to 74 A.D on a large hilltop in current-day Israel between a group of Jewish rebels (also known as Jewish Sicarii or Jewish Zealots) and the Roman army. Masada has become a place of reverence for Jewish people, who hold military ceremonies and prayers for their fallen ancestors, whom they revere as heroes. The battle was recorded by Flavius Josephus, who was employed by the Roman army. Get over it, there is a state called Israel, live with it. You guys hate Jews and do not give me the crap that you are not anti Jew but anti Zionists, it is the same!! The Arabs were defeated with audacity and at will. Lets not talk about American equipment, remember the Israelis were outgunned in 1948.

    • Nobody is saying that the UN should not recognise Israel as a state. Yes Israel never existed before and was carved out of nowhere using might and power. The same for many other countries which exist today. Nobody is disputing that Israel is a country on its own. In fact the UN had long already recognised Israel. What people are saying is that as much as the Israeli’s have a right to their own state, the Palestinians have the same right and Israel must respect them as a sovereign state. Not meddle in its affairs and control its govt like what is being done now. The Israelis have a naval blockade against Palestine. They are not allowed to bring in construction material or anything that the Israeli authorities feel can be used as a weapon. Even if it is ridiculous, as long as Israel has a feeling that it could be a weapon, then it is not allowed. Eg. wood, concrete, iron, sand. Even food products and medical aid are tightly controlled. How is it that foreign medical aid and food can be regarded as weapons? That is highly unreasonable and unfair to the Palestinians. Of course when they are pushed into a corner, militant groups will rise to retaliate against the unjust policies. Similar to the anti-japanese armies formed in Malaya during Japanese rule.

      Yes there was a war previously and Israel did win that war but it is time to move on and respect each other as sovereign states. If Israel maintains its strict and unfair control of Palestine, the Palestinians are going to retaliate. And the Israeli will also retaliate. How is there ever going to be peace? No state should be telling another what they can or cannot buy. Or stop ships from entering another country. Likewise, Malaysia cannot be tell Sg or Indonesia what they can import or export. Or tell them how to run their govt.

      • Hamas “political leader” Khaled Mashaal. Mashaal told CNN’s Christiane Amanpour: “I accept a Palestinian state according to 1967 borders with Jerusalem as the capital, with the right of return [of millions of Palestinians to Israel].”No one better than Mashaal himself expressed this view in the same CNN interview, where he stated: “Palestine, from the river to the sea, from the north to the south, it is my land. And the land of my fathers and grandfathers, inhabited by the Palestinians from a long time ago…but because of the circumstances of the region, because of the keenness to stop the bloodshed, the Palestinians today, and Hamas, have agreed on a program that accepts the 1967 borders.” What Mashaal and other “moderate” Hamas leaders are saying is this: “Give us a Palestinian state now in the West Bank, Gaza Strip and east Jerusalem so that we could use it as a launching pad for eliminating Israel.”Hamas charter, where it is clearly stated that “The Islamic Resistance Movement believes that the land of Palestine has been an Islamic Waqf throughout the generations and until the Day of Resurrection, no one can renounce it or part of it, or abandon it or part of it…the liberation of that land is an individual duty binding on all Muslims everywhere. When our enemies usurp some Islamic lands, Jihad [holy war] becomes a duty binding on all Muslims.”…

      • Kevin, Israel existed as a Kingdom of Judea long time ago before Palestine came into existence. Read about King David or Solomon? This is factual history.
        Even before that, it was a land of (real) giants of more than 10 feet tall before it was conquered by the Israelites. Read about shepherd boy David defeated Goliah with just a sling shot?
        If you care to research this conflict, it has its origin from Biblical time from the patriarch Abraham who didn’t follow God’s command resulting in a lineage that was not God’s plan. Sin has a way to effect on one’s generations.
        And if you care to read between the lines of Biblical history, it has a profound spiritual implication of conflict (between good & evil) since the time of Adam & Eve. Our earthly understanding blinds us from the truth of what is actually happening beneath the carpets.
        Let time be a judge & revelation of the final outcome of this highly contested land which once was but a desert of no promising future before the Israelites turned it into a livable place.
        Cheers, Kopi-O kau kau.

      • Keven, talk about history, what if today inner Mongolia claims MOST of Europe, india and Asian continent as its country because of ex “Monghul-glory” land?

        How about current Thai government claim the peninsular as part of it “Siamese” colonial state? So you want a world war 3?

      • Exactly my point guys. What I was saying is that we cannot keep looking back and back into history and claim this and that. I am saying, forget about the past and move on. If u keep going back into the past then only the dinosaurs should be legitimate residents. I did not say get rid of Israel and give the land to the Palestinians. I said, let Israel remain as it is, a sovereign state but at the same time also let the Palestinians have their own state. Which means Israel has to stop meddling into the affairs of Palestine. If they want to import medicine or food or water or cement or wood or iron, let them. Likewise, Malaysia does not control what Singaporeans can or cannot do because it is a sovereign state even if it was once part of Malaysia. Similarly, Indonesia lost during the confrontation but that is in the past and they are still their own state. We moved on. Isn’t it a simple solution? I am glad that the UN general assembly has the … to state the obvious. Israel forms its own country and minds its own business and the Palestinians can also have their own country and mind their own business. If after doing that and the Palestinians still insists on having war and violence then it is their fault. But can we at least try this two state system? Please give peace a chance.

    • Enough with the anti jew and terrorism labels, as it is clear what is going on.
      Which side continues to build settlements on stolen land every year?
      Which side killed more women and children every year?
      Israel is no angel.

      Also spare me the history lesson cause it dont justify committing war crimes. If you are born in Europe then your motherland is in Europe regardless of your race.


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