Why not reveal Saiful’s police report?
Aliran president P Ramakrishnan has come up with an apt response to Syed Hamid Albar’s statement. He is asking the Minister why Saiful’s police report has not been revealed to Anwar. Why is it so difficult to show Anwar the report? Good question.
What is Syed Hamid Albar afraid of?
In a rhetorical stance, the Home Minister Datuk Seri Syed Hamid Albar posed this question to Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim, “What is he afraid of?” Aliran would like to pose this very question to Syed Hamid, “What is he afraid of?” Why are they afraid to release the police report lodged by Mohd Saiful Bukari Azlan against Anwar Ibrahim on 28 June alleging sodomy? Full statement
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I am not a lawyer but why should the police reveal the police report made by Saiful ? Does Anwar have the legal rights when he is not even been charged ? People tend to forget that he is just being investigated and NOT charged (yet).
I am also highly disturbed by the behaviour of Bar Council who seems to taking sides and also defend their members rather than being nuetral and side the law.
The only thing that I can think of is a fix up. Too many questions.
Why isn’t the police report of Saiful released, what are you afraid off if you don’t intend to manipulate or change it.
You have Anwar’s DNA profile, it must be on the database, use that to make a comparison, why do you need a new sample. What happened to the ols sample, with todays technology (mitochondrial), even a ten year old sample can yield a DNA profile. But then again, you have the DNA profile on record. What is going on, why so desperate for sample till the point that the Deputy IGP does not even want to address this question
What a mockery, can someone get a proper foreign forensic expert to give report on this to show that all of this is bull?
Or send the evidence and Anwar’s DNA to a acceptable foreign agency like UK to do te comparision, this will at least result in exclusion.
You see, DNA is a signature, who put it there is another story. This is probably what bothers Anwar and his reluctance to give a DNA sample
Yeah… double standards…
Hamid… talk big but scared if the truth!!
The reason why the police report not given to Anwar:
http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2008/7/18/nation/20080718204611&sec=nation
Friday July 18, 2008 MYT 8:47:17 PM
Deputy IGP: Why Anwar not given copy of police report
KUALA LUMPUR: The police will give Datuk Seri Anwar Ibrahim a copy of the police report lodged by his former aide alleging that Anwar had sodomised him “if and when” Anwar is charged in court.
Deputy Inspector-General of Police Tan Sri Ismail Omar said police could not give him a copy now as investigations were still in progress.
“Whatever we do is strictly in accordance with the law. Section 51A of the Criminal Procedure Code (CPC) clearly stipulates that.
“There have been so many allegations and accusations hurled against us in this and other matters, but as far as we are concerned, we will continue to be professional in our approach and carry out our duties according to the law,” he said.
Section 51A of the CPC, titled Delivery of certain documents, reads as follows.
(1) The prosecution shall before the commencement of the trial deliver to the accused the following documents: (a) A copy of the information made under Section 107 relating to the commission of the offence to which the accused is charged, if any; (b) A copy of any document which would be tendered as part of the evidence for the prosecution; and (c) A written statement of facts favourable to the defence of the accused signed under the hand of the Public Prosecutor or any person conducting the prosecution. (2) Notwithstanding paragraph (c), the prosecution may not supply any fact favourable to the accused if its supply would be contrary to public interest.
On Thursday, Anwar lashed out at the police, saying that they had not given him a copy of the police report of the sodomy allegation made by his accuser Mohd Saiful Bukhari Azlan.
He questioned why, despite repeated requests, the report was being kept from him and his lawyers.
“Is it so that they can keep amending and amending and amending it to fit in with the statement that I have just given to them?
“If they give the report to me now, how am I supposed to know that it is the original? Are they waiting to make up the ‘perfect’ police report?” he asked, adding that each time he sought a copy, the police said they had been instructed against giving him the report.
The Deputy IGP rubbished as baseless and unfounded Anwar’s allegation that police would fabricate evidence against him using his DNA, as he claimed they had done 10 years ago.
He added that Anwar should be more responsible about making such statements or allegations.
…AAB said that DSAI’s 1998 DNA was too old. It’s nonsence but he is trying to protect all the members. I think Syed Hamid must look himself into a clear mirror and answer the question asked before pointing his finger at others, knowing really well that 3 other fingers pointing at himself.
Wow, the conspiracy team is slowly exposed itself. Won’t be surprise, KJ would be next.
Was there a police report ever?
Dear Anil,
Could you please get someone to ask … Syed Albar and Khairy to show us how to give “DNA sample” to the police??
Do they carry their “sample” with them in a bottle, or in their wallet, or wear it like their clothing? Does DNA comes in sample form or in print form?
You get my point right, how stupid the UMNO leadership and their police … think the rakyat are?
They want my fingerprint sample? theres a copy in my IC, or give me a piece of paper, I do it myself, and I signed and put the date and place very near to my fingerprint…No problems for me, U police have a problem with that????
Aaah we all know your B@#$@#$, you want blood sample so …? what a joke !!
And syed albar wants to enact a law to give power to police to give “dna sample”? Really a police and dictator state..
If I am Anwar, I will go to a reputed lab, give them some tissue and get a printout of the DNA Profile… I will even publish it. This one you cannot plant on crime scene or manipulate. Anwar should deposit another copy with the united nation’s scientist and see if his DNA profile changes as he gets older.
The point is, these are the kinds of “oxford educated” leaders we have in Malaysia. No wonder the way they managed our economy is making the Rakyat suffer.
…
Either it is going to be the most interesting trial in the centurey or we have the MOST STUPID GOVERNMENT ON EARTH….
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
Dear Anil, when the first Sodomy charge was made years ago, even the poor kampung kids make jokes like this…
Ma, jenis apa mee kau masak ini hari?
Mummy: Maggi Mee lah.
kid: Tak sedap lah mak, bagus lagi beli mee sodom.
Mummy: sial budak ini…
Now even the kids think this joke has gone stale…
Now they ask: How can a sick old man with a bad back hold down a very tall strong young man?
Waaah, he got two assistant to hold him down kah?
Can U see? All the jokes I hear in town can only points to the stupidity of UMNO leaders who think they can dupe the Rakyat;s easily.
But the joke is them….. I really wonder how they thick can their face be without knowing the meaning of the word..”MALU” !!
Maybe he is not in control anymore. Please go to Malysiakini om “An Epic battle of three man ” by Salehuddin Hashin and Nathaniel Tan analysis or conspiracy theory depends on one view point on it
I believe K.Bing’s letter in Malaysiakini says it all as well as anyone can. http://www1.malaysiakini.com/letters/86384 . Whichever way you look at it, CONSPIRACY screams at you!
It’s obvious why the will not make public the Report. The last time around, they confiscated the diary and then changed the date of the ‘offence’ once, and when offered the perfect alibi, they changed the date of ‘offence’ again. So, if you expect principled conduct from the officers, you can forget it. And since they already have DSAI’s DNA from 1998, why the hoo-hah over DNA now?
No they have to show probable cause and cannot expect anyone to posibly incriminate himself. My gut feeling says other than that fool’s ‘confession’ they have nothing else to go on, in which case they should do the honourable thing and close the investigation. That they are not willing to do this (suggests) behind the scenes ‘invisible hand’ at work!!
I personally do not care whether DSAI committed sodo mee, hokkien mee,wan ton mee, cantonese mee or screwed a hump-backed Quasimodo. That is his private affair. I dare say that if we scrutinis the private lives of our politicians, more than half of them would have to be put behind bars, and if we put their financial wealth as well under the microscope, we would have to string them all up by their goolies.
What we want is the quickest exit of a very corrupt and racist regime that has long gone past the point of redemption.
And DSAI is making all the right noises that gives many the confidence that if he comes into power, we are in for a period of Renaissance. I am willing to take that risk after putting up with 4th rate governance for over 20 years with now the rise of People Power (Makkal Shakhti).
http://donplaypuks.blogspot.com
And if ot doesn’t work out, then maybe we’ll go for RPK!!
http://donplaypuks.blogspot.com
HM Syed Hamid is afraid to get his A** roasted!!
There is no logic in his thinking and statements made
by him, can be challenged, even by high school students. I thought
after more than 50 years of Independence, Bolehland will be govern by
more intelligent Ministers, ……God help us all!
…Now they are busy promoting and marketing the issues.e.g. Rais Yatim were urging Malaysian abroad to open up their eyes on the Anwar (soodomee) issues.
Giving Police Report is giving away their prosecution evidences.
Insufficient evidence to frame a charge at this stage.
They have not filed a charge yet ?
I read somewhere else though that as a suspect Anwar is not entitled to copy of the report. And then heard the other side refuting that. Which is true, can someone please clarify?
Because the PDRM is probably typing up the report as they go along !!!!
I really suggest that DSAI should go make a court request for the police report. surely, the reluctance to provide this report is contrary to the laws and rules of decency. It is (possible) the denial is to cover up, and perfect the report to take into account details from the various police statements….
why are the lawyers not taking the case to the court to demand the police provide the report which should rightly be made available to DSAI being the accused. this smacks of another conspiracy
whats hamid good for? he lost one of our islands. now, he is good at setting up roadblocks to inconvenience the public. he is talking nonsense now.
the traits of a shameful minister!
What do I afraid of give the Saiful report?
If I give you now, than it would be impossible for me to change the report. But DSAI have to give me his DNA, than I (could) draft the report and make the evidence to match with the DNA.
So, DSAI have to give me the DNA first, else we will use warrant/court order to get the DNA.
…We, RAKYAT not that stupid to listen to this g***, you can also read lim kit siang blog for RAKYAT commends on him.Even international communities also laugh at him. They already have anwar DNA in1998/99, so why need another DNA, even PM also talk c***, i think PM is a M….. everytime he change his DNA.Leave it to the DNA EXPERTS from overseas to commend.Perhaps N’s DNA should be taken also…..We, RAKYAT are the JUDGE.
Saiful .. lodge police report after 2 days of his last Fxxx, how they can get the sperm from his … anus? Unless he never go to relieve bowel, err…..
To me, this is the most convincing argument that AI is innocent.
Exactly, what are you afraid to give police report, Botak?
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Kind of a joke but what the heck is that? Google Conspiracy? haha…
Sorry, I have no control over what kind of ads that Googles suddenly chooses to display. I will see if I can filter that site out. Thanks for pointing that out. cheers Anil
HOW I WISH PAKATAN RAKYAT IS RUNNING THE COUNTRY NOW.
GOD SAVE OUR BELOVED AND BEAUTIFUL COUNTRY.
Hello,
I haven’t seen any ‘real’ economist commenting on the good thing about reducing fuel price. Can you give your opinion?
As a layman, I think when the fuel price is reduced (of course the goverment can afford to) it will significantly making our economy active which i think is good.
When more money enters the economy to satisfy the increasing economic activity it will surely making Malaysia to be more competitive. Since other country in this region are facing difficulties i think this should be the right time to surpass them.
Am I correct?
ANY DOCTOR HERE?
Dna of anwar taken many moons ago.
The PM said its old and need a new one.
rajraman666.please any doctor,can DNA have a life span?
If yes,the whole theory of DNA taken from thousands of years from human,plants or devil like me doesnt hold water in my KOI POND.
NOT BOTHERED ABOUT SAIFUL OR ANUAR OR POLICE OR BAR COUNCIL VIEW BECAUSE IS A WAYANG KULIT.
Still working on the draft. Which version do you want?
Syed Hamid, kindly show the report first before you open your big mouth. If police could not furnish the reports after so many weeks, it shows that Syed Hamid, being the Home Minister is hopelessly in efficient. In this modern age, report can be faxed, email and what have you within minutes after the report is done.
It really arouse suspicion of not Anwar, but almost every one in Malaysia.There is no credibility left in the Government
…Saiful’s laporan polis….can be easily obtain on the internet yet the police find it too difficult to hand it to Anwar,unless something fishy is going on….
Someone told me that you can buy police report for a mere fee of RM3.00.
cheers.
Egghead might think he’s all charming and eloquent when he raises these questions on TV. The real question is would he be prepared to meet Anwar head on in another live debate?
We ordinary folks not implicated in gangb@nging Saiful do not need to see the police report. After all the nessasary details have been published in all blogs and the Govermment controlled MSM. Fact are
Saiful was forcefully sodomised several times.The last being a “couple” of days before making the report which was a “couple” of days after he sought the advise of the DPM. According to the facts we have read and the accidental blurt from the DPM who first denied ever meeting Saiful, a “couple” of days = 1day.I dont think theres any need to highlight the other obvious doubts any person with an IQ above 10 is having about this whole saga. The main question is regarding DNA evidence now. Im no expert in the field but im sure all in the know will agree that a new sample is not needed since they already have it. True? Unless Anwar is some sort of mutant , as far as i know DNA structure doesnt change. The information should be in the PDRM database. The only other reasonable explanation is that our super efficient PDRM lost or threw away the sample.
ooh, the police report is in the process of making and it is scheduled to finish once Dato Seri Anwar has had his blood sample taken. Nothing much, that’s the way our Polis Raja Di Malaysia do their job. Why are you all people yearning about?
If not his, then why you all don’t advise them. So if Dato Seri wants the report then he has to submit his blood sample. That’s it.
Hey, hey, did I hear that the PM and his cronies said that they will be fair to Anwar? Then, why the accuser is protected by the police and his report is witheld to the lawyers of the accused? Why police harassment on the accused. Don’t you think both should be treated equally and that’s being fair. Fairness, that word is not in the Malaysia dictionary! Maybe, we should introduce a Umno version dictionary.
How to release the report now? … These people will never learn from the past mistakes lah, same modus operandi, get a court date, put DSAI behind bars, the political master keep on “raping” the country followed by recession and the entire rakyat lost big time.
Meantime and along the way, the police (could) screw up everything, the defense team (could) appeal the court decision while DSAI (could) be safely locked behind bars. This is gonna be a great script and perhaps Hollywood might want to shoot a movie about it.
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Saiful .. lodge police report after 2 days of his last 666. botoi tak masuk akal…jadi dia tak mandi kah … tak buang air besar ..dalam tempoh 2 hari kah???…. Tak masuk akal!
“if and when” Anwar is charged in court… And yet they arrested him in such a fashion. The police are already treatingt DSAI as if he is guilty so might as well just release the report to him.
The request and search for the report
Have now turned into a form of sport
With it being used as weapon of last resort
Any attempt to get it will face a smug retort
(C) Samuel Goh Kim Eng - 190708
http://MotivationInMotion.blogspot.com
Sat. 19th July 2008.
PKR INTERNAL FIGHTINGS
RACISM EXIST IN PKR TOO?
http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2008/7/19/nation/21870507&sec=nation
Saturday July 19, 2008
Loh: PKR rep’s aide punched me
By STEVEN DANIEL and AUDREY EDWARDS
PETALING JAYA: Kelana Jaya MP Loh Gwo Burne from PKR has lodged a police report that he was assaulted by a man believed to be the personal assistant of Seri Setia assemblyman Nik Nazmi Nik Ahmad from the same party.
It is learnt the alleged incident occurred during the ground-breaking ceremony for a place of worship at Desa Mentari here at about 3pm.
Residents living in the area had protested against the construction of the building there and Loh, who was present, had approached them.
After speaking to the group, Loh approached the organisers of the function to discuss with them the protesters’ concern when he was allegedly punched in the face by a man believed to be an aide of a fellow PKR member.
Assaulted: Loh showing how he was punched by a fellow party member’s aide over a dispute on the construction of a place of worship in Desa Mentari yesterday.
Police, who were present, kept the situation from getting out of hand.
OCPD Asst Comm Arjunaidi Mohamed confirmed the incident and said Loh was sent for a medical examination after he lodged a report at the Sungai Way police station.
He said police have brought in the aide for further questioning.
“We have yet to receive the medical report and have classified the case under Section 323 of the Penal Code for assault, for investigation purposes,” he said.
When contacted, Loh said he went to the scene after being informed about the protest.
He said he was surprised because the matter was supposed to have been resolved on Thursday.
He said the problem started two weeks ago when residents complained about construction of the building and he was unable to find out who was responsible for the construction.
“When I arrived there today, I kept on asking him (the aide), ‘Who was responsible for this?’ I must have asked him about 10 times and pointed at him saying that, ‘You as a PA should know’. That was when he punched me in the face above my right eye,” he said.
The crowd then stopped the individual, he said.
“I do not think I provoked him,” Loh said.
He added that the party should do something “comprehensive” against his alleged assailant.
Loh said he has since spoken to the individual and told him that he “was sorry but he had to make a police report.”
He added that he did not sustain any bruises.
Nik Nazmi, who is overseas, is also the political secretary to Selangor Mentri Besar Tan Sri Khalid Ibrahim.
U disgrace with my comments izit??? Why you never post this comment???
(Taliban fall because they bring down Buddha in Bamiyan and now BN fall down because they bring down Malaysian Hindu Temple)
You deem this seditious???..Then go bury your head in sand..Shame on you to call Indian..You just like that idiotic m….. mahatir..
Anil, why is it so difficult to post a comment?
Apparently, Anwar will only be getting a copy “if and when” he is charged in court. Sounds too incredulous to be true.
Meanwhile, an MCA leader has been described as “one of the most potential leaders” by another. Er, we get he’s trying to bodek, but it doesn’t quite make sense.
http://9-5equals4.blogspot.com
[...] from the first sodomy charge against Anwar ten years ago and the lack of public confidence in key institutions in the country, this accusation is less sticky and has lost an element of surprise. The public did not react with [...]
…They are trying to make the rakyaat stupid. It is how a desperate man thinks that he can execute his … plan. Syed ….. seems to be in a state of delusion like his DPM.
Can you think of the meteoric rise of our current IGP:
1998 - 2000 - DSP (Anwar Sodomy Trial Investigation Officer)
2000 - SAC - Commercial Crime
2002 - Johor Police Chief
2003 - Deputy IGP
2006 - IGP
Can anybody explain in 8 years a police officer get promoted from DSP to become IGP.
Correct me if I’m wrong.
It is evident to (many) Malaysians and to the whole world that the police (may not) have a case. Therefore, they (may not) yet have Saiful’s allegations. They interviewed Anwar, found out his alibis, they stripped him naked, measured him, looked for birth-marks and the like… only then will they come up with the Saiful document, with the details inserted (perhaps) retrospective to the arrest? They (could) tailor-make the case to suit Anwar’s circumstances. Remember the first sodomy case? The apartment where the event was supposed to have taken place was not even constructed yet! The prosecution then amended the date and year, with generous help from the judge! What we’re seeing today (could be) just a repeat of those inglorious days!
One thing we are curious to know, Hopefully, Anwar Ibrahim will release more details…
What kind of questions did this CID Bakri asked him after he was arrested?
Never minds Anwars answer, I just want a list of questions that these so called CIDs have asked.
you know, i had my brushes with the police in Sabah before, and i can vouch for you, they are really STUPID question, tiada sikul punya..
and when we make police reports of burglary, those cops cannot even make a simple sketch plan of the crime sites, that we often have to beg to draw the sketch ourselves otherwise the recording of police report will take almost a DAY.
So how can we trust this uniformed unit any longer????
GIVE ME all the police reports on Sodomeee
1. from Saifoool
2. from all the other witnesses
3. Anwars report and alibi….
Thats all I need to solve this crime…..
I will know who tells the truth and who is bulls**ting by simply reaeding betweeen the lines…
I want to apply for speciallist job in the CID dept once Anwar becomes Prime Minister
Without the report being shown, the police is condoning excessive speculation and accusations. Tan Sri Ismail may use a clause to justify this act yet due to the low trust on the police force right now, they could have acted above and beyond the minimal to ensure confidence in their investigation.
[...] Why not reveal Saiful’s police report? [...]
It is a sad reflection of Malaysians’ maturity reading from the comments here. Instead of simply “tembak”, why can’t we discuss the issue rationally ?
If the PDRM has to release the police report to DSAI based on the law, then please highlight the relevant section of the Criminal Law / CPC(it there are any).
I am not a lawyer but I have never seen the police releasing the police report to the alleged perpetrator before he/she is being charged. Why Anwar keeps insisting that he is to be given special treatment ?
the media is purposely manipulating the issue. PM, Khairy and Hamid are like scientists now talking about DNA. their eagerness to have anwar give provide his DNA itself smells something is not right. This is publicity and defamation of the worst kind. the script and plot are borrowed from an old flopped movie ten years ago, thinking that anwar can be publicly shamed. in reality, experts are saying that DNA is irrelevant in a case like this. the media is harping on this as if anwar has done a big sin. knowing anwar since 1972, i have never at any time seen him involving in all these dirty things. he is a religious man and friendly to everyone. quick to trust others. not snobbish. mixes around with everybody with no mistrust against anybody. this are his weaknesses as a person. he has made himself quite vulnerable to this kind of defamation and political sabotage due to his friendly nature. Knowing anwar since the past 38 year i can swear that this honest man would never have done such a deplorable act. The accusation against him is just unfair and this is fitnah. why not make UMNO politicians confess what naughty things they have done in life? i have seen enough… i have mixed with them enough … i ve seen them … here and when I was in england. please don’t pretend to be saints. the police are all out after anwar but not the others who are implicated in bala’s SD. murder is an unforgivable sin. why the difference in approach? AG versus RPK, why not rosmah versus RPK? real funny and sense illogical. the world is observing the drama here - let’s not go overboard - and this is bad for the country. the only way to corner these people who are humiliating anwar is for BN MPs to join PR. ensure that more people become members of PKR, PAS and DAP. invite more capable people to become members of PR. the ball has started rolling…. soon many more will agree to a 2-party system in the country - PR and BN. PR has done history by making all the races work under one banner. PR has made all malaysians united as one PEOPLE – AS MALAYSIANS. a great success indeed. UMNO SHOULD STOP THIS UNNECESSARY DRAMA.
In response to “Killer on July 20th, 2008 at 11.15pm ”
IT IS NOT the maturity of the blog commenters that is in question, rather the IMMATURITY of the BN govt and their running ****….
Have u ever made a police report? I have, concerning a burglary in my house, and instead of trying to help the victim, I get scolded instead. Thats malaysia police for you.
Also, the double standard in investigations IS DOWNRIGHT obvious, even the uneducated can see.
A fool makes an allegation, he gets protection.
RPK makes an allegation, he goes to jail.
Boy, Malaysians are born equal, only the UMNOputras are more equal than others.
You can buy reports of other cases at RM3, but not this special case. You could be a million dollar man.
Perhaps any of you have not read this then you should for an update, real fact or fiction ??? We may know one of these days.
Sila baca sini di tulis oleh RPK !! Very Interesting ! Tak BACA akan menyesal ……
NO HOLDS BARRED
Raja Petra Kamarudin
Actually, I did not know why we were going to see Najib. Saiful just said that he wanted to go and see Najib and he wanted me to follow him. So I followed him.
………..And how will that happen? Well, this time I video-recorded a ‘confession’ session. And the video recording is now in a safe place, ready to surface during my trial when they charge me for this newest ‘crime’, whatever that crime is going to be….
I guess it just gets better and better …….
In case you guys haven’t came across this. I thought perhaps it may be usefull for permatang pauh.
Dr Danial Tentang Sumpah Saiful
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWb7ORIxCTQ
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