Thailand’s most senior forensic pathologist, the renowned Dr Pornthip Rojanasunand, dropped a bombshell at the Teoh Beng Hock inquest today.
Dr Pornthip is the Director-General of the Central Forensic Science Institute, Ministry of Justice, in Bangkok - Photo credit: thaitsunamihelp.org
This is the latest via Twitter from Malaysian Insider:
- Dr Pornthip steps out of witness box.
- Dr Pornthip says, “I never want to criticise the police & doctors.”
- Dr Pornthip requests Azmil to make statement to media, stresses she is here to offer opinion only.
- Magistrate Azmil Munthapa Abas, acting as coroner, thanks Dr Pornthip for helping inquest.
- Dr Pornthip says will take longer time due to decomposition of body but that won’t affect her final analysis.
- Dr Pornthip tells court she is prepared to do 2nd autopsy even if have to exhume Teoh’s body.
- Dr Pornthip disagrees with Tan’s suggestion.
- Tan suggests to Dr Pornthip that she doesn’t have enough basis to conclude Teoh’s death is 80pct homicide & 20pct suicide.
- Tan reads out Dr Prashant’s nine reasons for concluding Teoh committed suicide, one by one.
- Dr Pornthip says she can’t answer Tan’s questions because the investigation is incomplete.
- Dr Pornthip says if bone fragments were found in the anal area, it’d be compatible with injury caused there by fall from a height.
- Dr Pornthip replies yes to Tan but adds its uncommon.
- Tan reads Dr Prashant’s analysis on anal injury and asks Dr Pornthip if penetration can be caused by bone fracture after a high fall.
- Dr Pornthip says strangulation signs may not always leave marks on the skin but can be detected under the skin.
- Tan shows Teoh’s photos to Dr Pornthip & asks if she spots signs of strangulations she had described earlier. She says no.
- Dr Pornthip says she didn’t get copies of all documents from the Selangor government which engaged her.
- Replying to Tan Hock Chuan, Dr Pornthip wished she had a chance to talk to the two pathologists who did Teoh autopsy on the results.
- Dr Pornthip returns to witness box for cross-examination after court resumes after lunch.
- Court allows Dr Pornthip to examine Teoh’s shoes to confirm her hypothesis that he was dragged before falling to death.
- Coroner’s court breaks for lunch and will resume at 2pm.
- DPP Kevin Morais, acting for the MACC, asks Dr Pornthip to clarify definition of strangulation.
- Dr Pornthip says Teoh’s death is 80pct homicide and 20pct suicide.
- Dr Pornthip confirms that Teoh was alive when he hit the ground but may have been unconscious even before falling.
- Dr Pornthip says skull fracture not typical of injury from fall but more compatible from blunt force applied directly to the skull.
- Dr Pornthip notes round marks on Teoh’s neck could mean ‘manual strangulation’ with fingers.
- Dr Pornthip says injury to Teoh’s anus caused by penetration with object before fall, based on pictures taken from death site.
- Dr Pornthip gives a graphic power point display based on a post-mortem pictures to show & explain Teoh’s injuries.
- Dr Pornthip tells court not all injuries on Teoh’s body consistent with fall from a height.
- Dr Pornthip explains her views are based on Teoh’s autopsy report.
- Questioned by Malik, Dr Pornthip says Teoh died from a fall about 6am to 8am on July 16, 2009.
- Dr Pornthip tells court she has conducted more than 10,000 autopsies, of which about 100 dealt with fatal falls from a high place.
- Court resumes with Dr Pornthip taking oath at witness box.
- Teoh Beng Hock’s parents, elder brother & younger sister in court to hear Dr Pornthip’s testimony.
- Court stands down until 10.15am to set up equipment for Dr Pornthip’s evidence, expected to last an hour.
- Selangor lawyer Malik Imtiaz Sarwar introduces Dr Pornthip as expert witness for the inquest.
- AG’s lawyer Tan Hock Chuan introduces UKM forensic chief Prof Shahrom Abd Wahid to sit in for back-up explanation.
- Court sets up projector system in front of witness box for evidence from Dr Pornthip.
- The Selangor government has engaged Dr Pornthip to testify as expert witness.
- Famous Thai pathologist Dr Pornthip Rojanasunand to testify today. She worked on Asian Tsunami victims & David Carradine’s death.
- Coroner’s court resumes hearing on Teoh Beng Hock’s death today.
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it is a bomb!
Ha ha ha. Many PR supporters feel so sick now because their accusation towards MACC have been cleared by Dr Death findings.
MACC – the day have come !
Yes, Dr Death may clear MACC name by suggesting there is suicide possibility. Bravo to MACC. As I always believe MACC is professional enough even its HK conterpart ICAC also gave unreserved praise to MACC!
1Malaysia.. haha.. for whom? For …. Koh Tsu Khoon, MCA, MIC and now Makal Sakthi.
TBH’s (death) is a good reason for us all civil Malaysians not to vote BN in GE13.
Kg Buah Pala demolition also a reason for all indian in malaysia to vote BN
The current blog article is on Teoh`s inquest but Gerakan K still keep on talking of Kg Buah Pala. Thats why all along I always believed Gerakan K has a stake in Kg. Buah Pala. Its not a small stake where the Kg Buah Pala resident were compensated with a double storey house but (perhaps) a much much bigger one….?
… Thats why we must finish off UMNO in the next GE. Gerakan & KTK will be no more relevant, thats for sure. He can fool some of KG Buah Pala resident but not us Penangites.
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The majority of Indians has loss everything under the BN 51 years of corrupted and racist rule. What is KBP compared to all that they have loss!!!
Most KBP residents are happy with the compensation and they have even set up a new residence committee kicking out the sugumaran mic trouble maker. What say you about this Gerakan K?????
Good work & Thank you!!! Dr Pornthip Rojanasunand. See what MACC said…
Yes, good work indeed from Dr Pornthip Rojanasunand. She has just confirmed that there is possibility of suicide action. Our forensic experts also said this is suicide case. No doubt about it.
Gerakan K , you know what, your head must been muddled … when you said she has confirmed suicide when she said 80% homicide and 20% suicide.
Time to heal this 1sick country!
Yes, I feel so sick for PR supporters to accuse MACC as the party responsible for this case. Lesson from this case is do not make any baseless accusation.
Hi Gerakan K, thanks for your enthusiastic response here. Just wanted to mention you don’t have to individually rebut each comment you disagree with. Just two or three comments per blog entry should be more than enough to make your point.
One of the “comment guidelines” I have formulated for this blog reads:
“Keep your comments short and sweet. Avoid dominating the comments section of any single post.”
http://anilnetto.com/guidelines-for-commenting/
Noted
Thank You Khunying Pornthip for speaking on behalf of Teoh’s spirit. Hoped his spirit can rest in peace now and move on after this. Khor Khun Karp Mak.
Thank you Dr Pornthip, a would-be coverup exposed!! After long weeks and months of inquest, Malaysian forensic findings did not get anywhere near Dr Pornthip’s, how come?
The bunch of Malaysian forensic experts must be so damned usless and incompetent or were they under instructions from PutraJaya?
What about 20% possibility of suicide action? You made the conclusion too soon.
20% can not beat 80% lah …
Yes there is also the possibility for a 20% marks to pass an examination or to pass a guilty verdict. This is the 1 Malaysia Gerakan K has always been defending for Najib and his UMNO goons.
Ohh..this is sooo…expected already. The only people in denial is the MACC.
Evelyn,
MACC is not just in denial, they (could be cooperating with) Najib…
Fairdinkum ,
oops another cover up brewing I suppose,
(someone) detained by our authorities ends
up dead: ITS UTTER SAVAGERY
Teoh Beng Hock dipukul dan dicekik sebelum jatuh
Harakahdaily
Wed | Oct 21, 09 | 11:46:13 am MYT
SHAH ALAM, 21 Okt: Pakar forensic dari Thailand, Dr Pornthip, memberikan keterangan yang mengejutkan dalam inkues kematian Teoh Beng Hock hari ini apabila berkata, tengkorak kepalanya pecah bukan kerana jatuh tetapi kerana pukulan kuat.
Tanda bulatan merah pada tengkuknya pula bagi beliau adalah akibat dari dicekik dengan menggunakan tangan dan ia adalah kesan jari pada tengkuk mangsa.
Bagi beliau, Beng Hock jatuh ke atas lantai di tingkat bawah tempat mayatnya ditemui dalam keadaan tidak sedarkan diri.
Dia juga berkata, kesan luka pada anus (dubur) mangsa juga akibat dari kemasukan objek keras sebelum beliau jatuh.
Berdasarkan kepada perolehan itu, beliau memberikan rumusan bahawa 80 peratus punca kematian Beng Hock adalah kerana dibunuh dan hanya 20 peratus sahaja kerana bunuh diri.
Dr Pornthip memberikan keterangan dalam inkues Teoh Beng Hock di hadapan Koroner, Azmil Muntapha Abad. Beliau dipanggil sebagai saksi profesional oleh keluarga Teoh Beng Hock.
Teoh Beng Hock ditemui mati selepas memberi keterangan kepada Suruhanjaya Pencegahan Rasuah Malaysia (SPRM) Selangor pada 16 Julai lalu, diatas tingkat lima, Plaza Masalam, disini, yang menimbulkan pelbagai persoalan. _
I malaysia .. death at the (premises) of MACC….
…meanwhile the AG Office and MACC lawyer (Razak) had insinuate at the inquest that Teoh Beng Hock had committed suicide by making public Teoh’s last balance in his bank account – a sure good case for suicide?
Good try Lawyer(MACC) Razak!… With your kind of logic perhaps half the population of Malaysia who live from hand to mouth, will be committing suicide everyday?
It was confirmed by expert that there is 20% possibility of suicide action.
You are grasping at straw. Why are you so keen to defend the macc and their master ? The leopard is showing its spots.
It goes to show that the MACC and their lawyer Razak Musa are simply bankrupt of ideas and … they humiliate the late Teoh and his family with all sorts of insinuation….
To lawyer Razak, my condolences to him, obviously he’s a failed product of the NEP!
This may also rule out the ‘accident’ theory.
Suicide theory may apply
Such silly goebblick repetition will get you no where.
We are doomed and damned!
How come our country’s forensic team can miss out such crucial evidence?
Selective autopsy?…
Is there any more hope in the country’s leadership?
This is your baseless accusation.
Provide full protection for Thai pathologist Dr Pornthip Rojanasunand, not by the police. Selangor State Government must engage private security to protect her at all time. …
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And yet the people of Bagan Pinang voted for (the) government. The death of a young man is not important but the survival of a corrupt politician is. I feel so sick inside.
People of Bagan Pinang believe this is more likely a suicide case. So they vote BN.
I am truly sick to the stomach!!!
Here we have an innocent young man in the prime of his life found dead… yet those (responsible) are still trying to coverup…
We the rakyat, concerned citizens want nothing more nothing less, just justice for Teoh Beng Hock! We demand those responsible …mno matter their status be made answerable for (his) brutal (death)!
Jong, you are too emotional. Those responsible? What if this is a suicide case? Who will be responsible for this suicide action? His family and friends? Do not jump into conclusion too early as the inquest still not completed.
1Malaysia boleh ! 2 Pathologist tak boleh
MALAYSIA pathologists : oh , like that ah , maybe he “cucuk” himself and feel “high” so jump from the window.
MACC – correct ,correct.
I agree with you. Very good analysis indeed.
It’s not just a bomb. It’s the Mother of all Bombs!
From here on, do Malaysians still believe we have a civil/ civilized government?
I have never for once (no, not even for a split second) believed we have a civilized govt!
I’m Malaysian and I believe our BN government is of civilised one. BN government will and always take care of all people. We can see this from yearly budget that allocated for all. No one left behind.
This is exactly what Malaysia1 is all about? The International, Universal Standard and another Malaysia boleh yet another ‘exclusive and untouchable’ malaysia1. Simply Opposite! All these findings reminds me of.. while Dr Pornthip is showing Earth, MACC is showing Mars, that’s how far apart ppl.
Outrages and preposterous!!!
rakyat@work
Not true bro, both forensic experts also said there is suicide possibility. Why you ignore this fact? Just to attack MACC?
I bet she will be banned from entering Malaysia later.
Surely!.. UBN always can do it!.
By the way, Star Online used to have twitter live feeds too. I suppose the “bomb(shell)” actually hit their reporting station too. What a shame.
Teoh Beng Hock have only 3K left in his account, he (supposedly needed) the money for his wedding and allegedly took “commission” of 2K and found out by MACC and interogated until 3am, later he (allegedly) jump from MACC building to commit suicide because of shame to his wife. Meanwhile, a government director officer have approved the sale of 12 palm tree for RM 10,000 and sales of 2 laptop for Rm80,000 according to the recent auditor general report. So far, nobody else “jump” yet except Teoh Beng Hock……since he knows shame and the other shameless. 1Malaysia….1Commissen….1Submarine…..We are 1…we are 1…..MALAYSIA!!!!
I am also waiting for the ruling that Dr Pornthip and Thailand will be banned soon. Just like Alt…ya & Mongolia…
Yes, first thing first, that is, FULL protection for Dr Pontip’s safety in view of the nasty things happened in this Boleh Land.
Ya, where is Bala, the investigator now?
Why he has to be disappeared???
Why he has to be out of Malaysia???
Why he cannot be seen here, his own country???
Why is our PM so scared of him and/or his Affidavit???
I am full of rage when i learned that a young man had died during (or after) an interrogation…
I, a stranger, cant accept Beng Hock’s death, how much more his family and his fiancee…
I truly hope the spirit of Beng Hock will haunt (those responsible)…
I hope these heartless people will have their PAY day soon…
I mean Beng Hock will appear to them day and night whether they turn left or right till they tell the whole TRUTH, in particular, to Beng Hock’s family and the society at large.
MACC’s lawyer (appears to be) only making a fool of himself of what he said – account low, wedding getting near, so Beng Hock has to commit suicide?
Razak, i cant help, what a … lawyer you are !!!
P/s Wonder who is going to hire Razak as their lawyer after Beng Hock’s case.
Why you are so care about Bala? Bala already gave his statement via statutory declaration and clear all confusions. Even our court said OK.
don’t care about Bala huh?
Anal injury caused by bone fracture is uncommon unless….. if you pursue another 1st boleh lah.
There are many stupid comments here. Every PR supporter ignore the 20% suicide possibility. Even there are a lot of winners in Sportstoto jackpots with multi-million possibilities just to hit once.
Let me see if my rusty ole maths is of help here :
ignoring 20% = stupid
ignoring 80% = 80/20 x stupid
Hmmm…
We should walk the talk & vote with out feet. There is no reasons to be cry babies. Let us kick Barisan National out in GE 13.
Please vote for anything but Barisan National.
Are you ready to embrace PAS hudud law? There are provisions in hudud law that meted out punishment such as cutting of hand, beheading, stoning to death, etc. Let’s vote BN, because BN = 1Malaysia
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Gerakan K, we are not afraid of hudud law as only thiefs and their cahoots like you should be very afraid. That is the reason why UMno keeps telling the chinese to reject PAS because UMno/BN politicians, corrupted UMno govt servants are scared to death of lossing their hands and legs.
By the way, Penangites are not so cheap as to put up the 1Malaysia TM stickers just to get the RM100 if spoted. A cheap gimmick. Gerakan K, just go round Penang and I bet you cant even spot 1 car with the sticker…….except the No To ISA sticker.