Safe cycling lanes: If Vancouver can do it….

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Notice that these are dedicated – and protected – bicycle lanes. Protected bicycle lanes are probably what it would take to enhance public confidence in the safety of cycling in places like Penang, KL, Ipoh and JB.

Even Manchester, a city not previously renown for its cycling infrastructure, has got into the act. Check out the different ways the city has used to protect cyclists using its dedicated bicycle lanes.

One problem with cycle lanes is that those on motorbike and scooters might be tempted to use them. The folks in Amsterdam have staged a protest to keep scooters off their bicycle lanes.

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Jerome
Jerome
8 Oct 2017 11.52am

PM Najib announced the RM2.56bil Bus Rapid Transit (BRT) to cover 90% of Johor’s Iskandar region and spanning over 51KM, by 2021.

http://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2017/10/07/najib-announces-rm2_56bil-brt-system-for-johor/#HOde0T1SO5AKaYwx.99

Is BRT a better option for Penang island than LRT?

SL Tay
SL Tay
23 Oct 2017 11.23am
Reply to  Jerome

2017 Ekspo Kemajuan Johor – Future Connectivity BRT/MRT/Int Flight
https://youtube.com/watch?v=7E4JdzF1xvw

SL Tay
SL Tay
23 Oct 2017 11.27am
Reply to  Jerome

The proposed BRT in Johor Bahru

Jerome
Jerome
30 Sep 2017 1.57pm

Malaysia would not want to host Formula One after this year’s final grand prix there even if it was offered to the country for free, Sepang circuit chief executive Razlan Razali said on Friday.

Sore loser indeed!

Sepang F1 suffered dwindling attendance after Singapore F1 night race came onboard. This year’s Singapore F1 concert featured Ariana Grande, Duran Duran, Chainsmokers etc but Sepang F1 concert could only have local artists like M Nasir and Jacklyn Victor. How to attract foreign audience?

PolitiScheiss (a.k.a. IT.Scheiss)
PolitiScheiss (a.k.a. IT.Scheiss)
29 Sep 2017 11.20pm

@ Khun Pana, Yes it is true that such culture exists across our region. Quite frankly I feel that mass public awareness and concern only comes after they have had to suffer the effects of industrial and economic “development” much like people in the west had to go through before they became concerned over the effects of pollution. Except for a relatively small number of people like those here who are aware of such problems and drawbacks of “development”, most people still regard having a motor vehicle, a mega mall, etc as a symbols of rising affluence and bicycles as… Read more »

Heng
Heng
29 Sep 2017 7.18pm

If business climate not rosy, expect more retrenchment like what MCA’s The Star will be exercising the layoff.

https://m.malaysiakini.com/news/396748

No job less care over bin chui, many will be forced to let go private cars and may be good news for cyclists.

Jerome
Jerome
30 Sep 2017 5.05pm
Reply to  Heng

BN is losing its influence among voters through the major newspapers it controls due to falling circulation figures. https://www.themalaysianinsight.com/s/16502/ According to the Audit Bureau of Circulations Malaysia, figures at the end of last year compared with the same period in 2012 showed that Harian Metro suffered the worst drop – 62.5% – from 379,169 copies to 142,262. The New Straits Times was the second worst, with circulation falling 41.6% from 93,321 copies at the end of 2012 to 54,490 copies at the end of last year. Major Bahasa Malaysia dailies Utusan Malaysia and Berita Harian each saw their circulation figures… Read more »

Eric Kuek
Eric Kuek
1 Oct 2017 12.31pm
Reply to  Heng

The mainstream media have only themselves to blame for losing readers and the public’s trust, say media experts, as their pro-Barisan Nasional stance has destroyed their credibility. The Internet has also helped this decline as Malaysians migrate online for news and views that are either ignored or suppressed by newspapers, free-to-air television and radio stations. Although editors at mainstream outlets say their editorial stance is due to strict laws which regulate permits and licences, observers say that is only half of the story. Many mainstream media outlets were led by editors who actually believe and support the BN cause, thus,… Read more »

PolitiScheiss (a.k.a. IT.Scheiss)
PolitiScheiss (a.k.a. IT.Scheiss)
2 Oct 2017 11.40am
Reply to  Eric Kuek

The decline of print media and their Web presence is systemic and is happening worldwide, and it includes non-political publications such as the one about mobile phones and the mobile lifestyle which wrote for for about four and a half years back in the 2000s and which is defunct now. After all, who wants to read about a new model of smartphone or tablet launched on a Malaysian news portal when they can read about it online on sites such as Endgadget, Gizmodo and others by writers who were actually on the scene, rather than Malaysian writers who mostly have… Read more »

PolitiScheiss (a.k.a. IT.Scheiss)
PolitiScheiss (a.k.a. IT.Scheiss)
1 Oct 2017 11.48pm
Reply to  Heng

Thanks Heng.

Another topic for my blog IT.Scheiss

http://itsheiss.blogspot.my/

PolitiScheiss (a.k.a. IT.Scheiss)
PolitiScheiss (a.k.a. IT.Scheiss)
2 Oct 2017 9.16am
Reply to  Heng

Here is the original report on Star Media Group’s Mutual Separation Scheme of 200 by Nikkei, which the Malaysiakini report referred to.

https://asia.nikkei.com/Markets/Nikkei-Markets/Malaysia-s-Star-Media-Aims-To-Trim-200-Staff-Via-Separation-Scheme-Official

glissantia
glissantia
29 Sep 2017 7.02pm

The road space for BRT or cycling has to be taken away from private cars, a fact that is still politically inconvenient. China is implementing this because its situation is desperate, it can ram its policies through, and the scope for corruption is narrowing. In Bolehland, the average citizen is either in awe of those abusing public wealth or ill-gotten gains to ride around ostentatiously, or desperate to show off himself. The car, highway, petroleum, insurance and enforcement industries continue to exploit ignorance. The dedak continues to flow, much of it to the hypocritical West. When one flyover “link” costing… Read more »

PolitiScheiss (a.k.a. IT.Scheiss)
PolitiScheiss (a.k.a. IT.Scheiss)
2 Oct 2017 12.37pm
Reply to  glissantia

Rapid KL operates a Bus Rapid Transit on an elevated roadway between an LRT station in Subang Jaya and Bandar Sunway next to it. Perhaps this could be a compromise solution given Penang’s congested and narrow roads.

Heng
Heng
29 Sep 2017 7.02pm

To live a healthy lifestyle, recommended to walk 10,000 steps a day.
You can install appon you mobile to monitor your daily steps.
Most people 1,500 steps on average so compromise health being over dependent on motor vehicles to get around.
As Malaysians age, hospital bills definitely on rise that’s why medical tourism booming.

Jerome
Jerome
29 Sep 2017 12.21pm

The first electric car-sharing programme in Singapore will be launched in December with 30 charging stations and 80 electric cars being rolled out progressively, operator BlueSG said on Sep 27.

BlueSG, a subsidiary of French conglomerate Bollore Group, signed an agreement with the Land Transport Authority (LTA) and the Economic Development Board in June last year to develop an electric car-sharing programme that will see 1,000 electric cars being deployed in stages.

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/singapore-s-first-electric-car-sharing-programme-to-launch-in-9254156

This is one way to reduce car ownership and road congestion, to allow safer cycling and less carbon emissions to the environment.

Shriek
Shriek
29 Sep 2017 5.53pm
Reply to  Jerome

Ask PF to practise or lead the way. Then we believe n follow

PolitiScheiss (a.k.a. IT.Scheiss)
PolitiScheiss (a.k.a. IT.Scheiss)
2 Oct 2017 1.16pm
Reply to  Shriek

Penang Forum should register as the Penang People’s Front political party and contest in Penang state only and if it wins, to the right things for Penang people.

shriek
shriek
3 Oct 2017 2.55pm
Reply to  Shriek

Talk and giving comments easy. What about you starting Selangor Forum and stand for election

PolitiScheiss (a.k.a. IT.Scheiss)
PolitiScheiss (a.k.a. IT.Scheiss)
29 Sep 2017 1.23am

Shriek wrote:- “KL has more high rises than Selangor. What no objection to KL enforcement riding kuda? What horses enforcement for? Any presentation to KL minister? How about winning on opposing central projects by central gomen?” Speaking for myself, I live in Petaling Jaya, Selangor and expected the PH state government to stop this high rise building which was happening during the time of the previous BN state government but instead, there has been more and faster high-rise development in the nine years of PH rule in Selangor than under the former BN government. I read an article where Teresa… Read more »

Shriek
Shriek
29 Sep 2017 2.52pm

There are more high rise in KL and mega develepment. Bandar Malaysia in S. Besi airbase, Razak Xchange, demolish Merdeka Stadium to built 100 storey highrise. Pudu Jail demolish waiting for another mega development. People living in KL are chased away from the city and become hantu after dark. U only see what in PJ and Subang and not KL

Jerome
Jerome
29 Sep 2017 6.30pm
Reply to  Shriek

Interesting now to hear tales from KL and PJ, not just Penang.

By the way, Proton Group has nominated Dr Li Chunrong as CEO of Perusahaan Otomobil National Sdn Bhd (PONSB). Li will assume the role of PONSB CEO beginning Oct 1, and will be instrumental in working on jointly developed vehicles for Proton.

http://www.thestar.com.my/business/business-news/2017/09/29/auto-veteran-li-chunrong-appointed-ceo-of-proton/#HJhSwXYGO0r6mLou.99

Expect Perkasa and Isma to protest?

PolitiScheiss (a.k.a. IT.Scheiss)
PolitiScheiss (a.k.a. IT.Scheiss)
29 Sep 2017 11.30pm
Reply to  Shriek

Yes there are in KL but it is moving pretty fast in Petaling Jaya too and whilst KL is under the BN, Petaling Jaya which is part of Selangor is under the Pakatan which is not doing very differently in this regard than the BN, when I had expected they would have done.

Shriek
Shriek
30 Sep 2017 7.21am

Bn chased out KL people and replaced by offices, self service apartments and hotels. Tell us, where KL people supposed to go? Under S. Klang bridges? Of course, some go to PG.

Jerome
Jerome
30 Sep 2017 8.23am
Reply to  Shriek

Statistics Department’s figures show some 55,000 people from Kuala Lumpur moved to Johor Baru between 2015 and 2016, making KLites the biggest migrant group for the period. JB is the base camp for those Malaysians shuttling to work in Singapore daily.

http://m.thesundaily.my/node/485935

Heng
Heng
28 Sep 2017 10.10pm

No cycling on Love Lane to make way for beer session? Apparently this is what NGO is protesting.

http://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/nation/2017/09/28/closure-of-penangs-love-lane-angers-many/

Patrick Ooi could actually be jealous as his Kaffa coffee joints have been shut down, and seized the beer moment to make a revenge protest?

Jerome
Jerome
29 Sep 2017 12.26pm
Reply to  Heng

Moving vehicles endanger Love Lane’s alfresco dining customers. The CO emitted from the cars is as harmful as secondary smokes from cigarettes.

Heng
Heng
28 Sep 2017 10.06pm

My neighbour cleans his car almost daily, while outside his home a big mess. This shows Malaysians treat cars like Precious.

Stylo Logan
Stylo Logan
28 Sep 2017 4.10pm

I don’t think Penangites will adopt cycling as most of them love their cars more than their spouses. Anil can conduct a poll among his readers on this.

Heng
Heng
28 Sep 2017 10.06pm
Reply to  Stylo Logan

My neighbour cleans his car almost daily, while outside his home a big mess. This shows Malaysians treat cars like Precious.

Frankie Gomez
Frankie Gomez
28 Sep 2017 10.40am

Cycling is not safe on those narrow Penang roads with so many fast and furious cars and menancing 4WDs that never give way. If you want to cycle, do so on no car day.

Jerome
Jerome
27 Sep 2017 5.15pm
PolitiScheiss (a.k.a. IT.Scheiss)
PolitiScheiss (a.k.a. IT.Scheiss)
29 Sep 2017 1.31am
Reply to  Jerome

Dunno but I doubt this O’bike thing will last long. I spotted one resting on a pole along a residential road in Petaling Jaya.

The best approach to encouraging bicycling is to provide bike lanes along main roads across the city and let people ride their own bike.

Shriek
Shriek
27 Sep 2017 4.52pm

4 punctures? Can go and buy empat ekor lor

Khun Pana
Khun Pana
27 Sep 2017 3.41am

It is a good suggestion.
Another good example to read up or as further example would be the one built inside Bangkok.
In Thailand, there are “kiasu” people abusing the special bicycle lanes as well.
Thank You.
http://www.bangkokpost.com/learning/learning-news/648252/thailand-to-get-longest-bicycle-lane-in-asia-by-2017-with-photos

PolitiScheiss (a.k.a. IT.Scheiss)
PolitiScheiss (a.k.a. IT.Scheiss)
28 Sep 2017 12.02pm
Reply to  Khun Pana

Being part Thai, I am on the one hand congratulate Thailand for its bike lane, though hopefully it is not just a project to have the “longest”. At the same time, I am sad to see that there are Thais, especially motorists and motorcyclists who like many Malaysians lack the civic consciousness and discipline to respect the bike lane. I sometimes say Malaysians are is a …. society, or …. in Thai. I can see much of that… behaviour in my own neighbourhood, where drivers park their cars in the service lanes behind link houses which are meant for emergency… Read more »

Khun Pana
Khun Pana
29 Sep 2017 1.19pm

Sadly, that is the culture in this region. Abusing the cyclist lane and walkways/pathways. Visited the city of Vancouver years ago.(there was no smartphone activated bike rental then ) Their weather there is terrific and is of nearly the same weather found in many parts of China. In most of the Chinese cities and towns, they have dedicated cyclist lane which is as wide as a normal road. For Penang, this will be difficult to do due to narrow roads. And since most Malaysians or readers will say that our weather is too hot. Yes, it is. May i suggest… Read more »

Heng
Heng
26 Sep 2017 10.13pm

If certain Penang heritage area turns into no motor vehicle zone strictly for pedestrians and cyclists, then the traders there will cry foul citing businesses affected.

First and foremost need to educate the young not to over dependent on motor vehicles. However, this is tough as most parents don’t lead by example. Basically binchui factor discourages many to walk more, blaming hot weather unlike in Holland – all sorts of excuses not knowing health matter being compromised with little walkabout exercises.

PolitiScheiss (a.k.a. IT.Scheiss)
PolitiScheiss (a.k.a. IT.Scheiss)
2 Oct 2017 7.53pm
Reply to  Heng

A lecturer at a private college in Petaling Jaya told me about a high school student who was given the opportunity to complete a semester at the twinning college in Australia and he went but soon returned before the semester was up and when this lecturer asked why he returned so soon, the student said that he disliked having to take the bus in Australia. Obviously this the parents of this privileged spoilt brat gave him use of a car, so he could not adapt to taking a bus. I am 63 and during my school days, most students either… Read more »

J Hwang
J Hwang
26 Sep 2017 4.26pm

First and foremost Penang do not have qualified highway engineers who are able to design cycle lanes. It is not simply painting a line saying that it is a cycle lane. It involves clear road marking, junction design etc Secondly, roads in Penang are narrow and is not possible to have a dedicated cycle lane without impeding the free fkow of traffic. Thirdly, in order for cycle lane to function efficiently, cyclist must learn the highway code. For instance places like Denmark and Holland have ‘cycle schools’. Lastly, by-laws for cycle lanes must be enacted to prevent motorised vehicle from… Read more »

PolitiScheiss (a.k.a. IT.Scheiss)
PolitiScheiss (a.k.a. IT.Scheiss)
28 Sep 2017 1.14pm
Reply to  Anil Netto

That my dear Anil is the problem with the expertise in Malaysia. As for bus lanes, it was tried on some major roads in Kuala Lumpur back in the 1990s and if I recall right, it was the idea of Anwar Ibrahim when he was deputy-prime minister. Bus lanes were installed on major roads such as Jalan Syed Putra and are still there but without proper enforcement and civic consciousness they are a total failure. Besides enforcement by the police and local authorities, civic consciousness and civic discipline are important for such facilities to work and social sanction by the… Read more »

Shriek
Shriek
28 Sep 2017 6.44pm
Reply to  Anil Netto

Why no proper enforcement on cars on bus lanes but good in calling up opposite for question by aca and polisi? Also imposition of one’ idea and standards on others?
KL has more high rises than Selangor. What no objection to KL enforcement riding kuda? What horses enforcement for? Any presentation to KL minister? How about winning on opposing central projects by central gomen? We failed because of Central administration policies and in education. Students learn dollars can kau Tim. Cash is king

Shriek
Shriek
1 Oct 2017 7.34pm
Reply to  Anil Netto

Not only edu fail, but also believe in the almighty. We have the religion in the highest law and and people going to all different places places of worship. What are we supposed to learn from all different places of worship?

Margie
Margie
26 Sep 2017 5.07pm
Reply to  J Hwang

A. There are no cycle schools in Holland. We are almost born on a bicycle. Migrants can take a course in the wonders of cycling, mostly done by volunteers. B. Every vehicle which goes faster than a cyclist and/or a pedestrian needs to show respect for pedestrian or cyclist. A ‘good’ driver stops for a pedestrian who wants to cross the road, lot more good behaviour rules to learnlearn for motorbike riders and car drivers. Instead of other way around. A Highway code doesn’t mean get out of MY way…!!! C. Be a Gentleman in Traffic!!! Most Malaysians can’t drive… Read more »

PolitiScheiss (a.k.a. IT.Scheiss)
PolitiScheiss (a.k.a. IT.Scheiss)
2 Oct 2017 12.31pm
Reply to  Margie

I first went to China as a media party for a distributors and dealers event of a PC manufacture which held that event in Kunming sometime in 1977 or 1998 and I thought the bus driver very rude when he honked at me who had disembarked from the plane and was standing on the tarmac. I also noticed this apparent “rudeness” by motorists and motorcyclists in Kunming until I learned that under the law there, the pedestrain is king and a bicyclist or driver of a larger evjicle is in the wrong if he hits a pedestrian, a motorcyclist or… Read more »

Shriek
Shriek
26 Sep 2017 5.17pm
Reply to  J Hwang

Uni teaches highway and road engineering. Name which uni or ask board of engrs or engrs Malaysia to recommend bicycle Lanes engrs. Any engrs want to cut pay and do bicycle Lane design?

Shriek
Shriek
26 Sep 2017 9.45pm
Reply to  J Hwang

Edu. is central gomen business. BN mca is minister of transport. Did they spend money to educate the public? How about safety programs in TV 1 & 2? Of course unless PF is willing to show and educate the public.

Shriek
Shriek
28 Sep 2017 10.04pm
Reply to  J Hwang

Who said no proper local council enforcement like in Ph states? Did you help out when drivers threaten enforcer in Selangor and pg? But bus lanes are in federal roads like Jln TAR, Lornie road, federal highway belongs to federal. You better petition to your BN minister fast.

Heng
Heng
26 Sep 2017 3.39pm

Safer pedestrian walk a higher priority for Penang, and if got more space then dedicate lane for bicycling.

Now the pavement uneven filled with protruding dangerous stuffs like metal, screws. Tackle this first otherwise pedestrians get knocked down by careless cyclists.

Heng
Heng
27 Sep 2017 8.09am
Reply to  Anil Netto

Then your value proposition should be to restrict the rise at alarming rate of private motor (carbon emission) vehicles, and to encourage more bicycles, pedestrians on the roads that currently being deprived proper spaces.
Time to impose Electronic Road Pricing for cars during peak moments?

tunglang
27 Sep 2017 9.16am
Reply to  Heng

Talking about pointed screws & bolts, I have had 4 punctures this year alone due to puncturing screws left on our roads.
One tyre shop told me they had to fix up punctured tyres almost everyday, while I saw one customer had to get rid of a bolt (mind you, not a pointed screw) puncturing his back tyre.

My Observation: Why nowadays we have more screws + bolts left on our roads which are bad for our tyres?
Blame the furniture shops & home renovation spree?

Shriek
Shriek
30 Sep 2017 10.28pm
Reply to  tunglang

Can also blame tokong? He looks after pg.

Shriek
Shriek
30 Sep 2017 10.36pm
Reply to  tunglang

Who wants to fight? Why so serious and it is just a remark that one strike 4 punctures. You have 2 cars and never voice out getting 4 punctures. If unfortunate strike can happen, Lucky strike can also happen.
Better blame tokong? Afterall he looks after Pg.

Shriek
Shriek
27 Sep 2017 4.47pm
Reply to  Heng

4 punctures? Can go and buy empat ekor lor

rajraman666
rajraman666
29 Sep 2017 4.33pm
Reply to  Shriek

Ooh gosh.
Zoro you change your email and name.

rajraman.Still fighting as usual with my buddy Tunglang.Go and buy 4 ekor.My car number 6606.Always 1st price every year.I have 4 cars registered under 6606.2 sold after 5 years.Left 2.
Anyway i don’t buy 4 ekor.

PolitiScheiss (a.k.a. IT.Scheiss)
PolitiScheiss (a.k.a. IT.Scheiss)
29 Sep 2017 1.39am
Reply to  Heng

In Petaling Jaya, not all motorists respect pedestrian crossings, especially not those which are traffic light controlled but just indicated by white lines on the road or what are called “zebra crossings”.

Enforcement is required to teach such kiasu motorists to observe the protocol of yielding right of way to pedestrians on zebra crossings but enforcement is lacking, so anarchy and “me first” reigns.

Shriek
Shriek
29 Sep 2017 5.48pm

Where is the hope if PJ has Um, Religious college, teaching hospital, private unis, middle class who are all control by central gomen and does not obey traffic rules? Edu is federal gomen responsibilty

Shriek
Shriek
30 Sep 2017 7.31am
Reply to  Heng

Omg, 4 cars here and now still 2 one on left and the other on right. Of course, your 4 kawan all car owners. How to talk about bicycles? Anil you have to preach harder. Why cars owners not giving good comments on gomen building or widening roads?

rajraman666
rajraman666
30 Sep 2017 9.24pm
Reply to  Shriek

You change your email again Zoro?
Jealous ha? I have 3 more cars bought second hand, so I can’t be registered as 6606.

rajraman. I used all the car, I start one car and all the other cars auto drive and follow my back. How I do it you think whatever way you want. Anyway which GOD you calling – The Deity?
There is another meaning for shriek -: squawk,: squawk: squawk.

Shriek
Shriek
1 Oct 2017 12.05pm
Reply to  Shriek

Your car’s can auto drive and follow you and expect people to auto follow your PSM and only rights for Indians only?

Shriek
Shriek
1 Oct 2017 11.57am
Reply to  Heng

A car is still a car. Whether is brand new, second, third, last hand or bone shaker. A car is not a bicycle and will go onto roads and highway. It release Co, co2 and warm the earth. No wonder pg has big flood recently.
Pasar mlm trader will do anything. Like governing party will attack person with blue film, sex stories, dancing partners. Just gutter.