In recent days, we have been given some inkling of the total cost of Penang transport infrastructure over the next decade.
The Edge has provided some indicative figures for the elevated light rail transit’s cross-channel stretch and the systems work for the entire stretch.
That gives a total LRT cost of almost RM17.3bn – much higher than the RM10-13bn that Transport Minister Anthony Loke had quoted earlier.
Together with the Pan Island Link highway (phase 1 only) cost of RM7.5bn, the total comes up to a whopping RM25bn.
The question is, where is Penang going to find this RM25bn? Full article on the Aliran website
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The Mutiara LRT Line project will span a total of 29.5 kilometres, with Bandar Sri Pinang being one of the 21 elevated stations for the LRT project. From 21 elevated stations, 20 will be located on Penang island and man-made Silicon Island, and one at Penang Sentral on the mainland.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=h2EMaGrx1F8
Thank you for the video giving us the aerial view of the LRT routes and the stations.
In time to come a car is not a necessity but a luxury.
LRT network connects strategic locations, fulfilling users’ demands with efficient and accessible transportation hubs at each station.
It covers a limited catchment corridor on the island and nothing on the mainland except at Penang Sentral. For the same amount (RM17bn) or much less, we could cover the entire state with buses, trams, water taxis and pedestrian pathways, and in just a few years instead of having to wait so long.
Shriek says it has to start somewhere. The CM also said the same thing. I am beginning to understand what they meant.
Anil says, ‘It covers a limited catchment corridor on the island and nothing on the mainland except at Penang Sentral.’
I believe this refers to the current construction of the LRT rail system.
Nothing on the mainland because the LRT links to the airport. If there is a better public transport to airport, how many millions will be using the Airport Link?
just like KTM, it has to start from somewhere. The electrification was from KL to Penang and later from KL to JB
The state must have plans to expand the LRT rail network to other parts of the island and the mainland in the future.
If this is true, what will be the actual total cost of the LRT rail system? Am sure it will be hundred Billions.
Where will the funds come from ? More 50% to 100% increase in rates and taxes ?
Please go and check if KL MRT which is very much longer runs into hundred billions
uncle rakyat – funds come from you – your convenience, your parking.
Car users will fund LRT into the future. It will be much costly to own and drive personal car, just like in Singapore.
Singapore has much better public tranport options, compared to Penang (with just a single LRT line).
Singapore MRT started in late 80s, already 35 years. Everything must start small. Penang is taking the baby step, no need to pour cold water!
Penang hasn’t even taken the baby steps with buses – only 200-300 buses in service.
Why then Halcrow consultants recommend tram lines and not more buses?
They recommended both buses and trams.
Why they add trams and not just all buses as the number of buses could be lower during the study?
Penang is taking baby steps ? To do what ? For what
purpose ?
Even to organize a proper bus transportation system, they have not been able to do, till to date.
Now they are talking about congestion tax. Is this what they good for ? Tax this tax that.
Why restrict giving license for bus transportation to just one company ? Can you explain or not ?
Uncle rakyat – why you blame buses? Even if you have 5000 buses, can you show how it over come 1millions in the city. You dont know what is CONGESTION tax? Can you bus moves if the road is CONGESTED? If the road is not congested, the buses will move and on time.
You people are only good in repeating what others say. Can you explain further or not, how car users will fund LRT in the
future ?
Rakyat – which is more expensive to travel? use your car or use buses and Lrts?
Car drivers upgrade from Proton to SUV. Similarly bus passengers are looking forward to upgrade to be LRT passengers.
So please be fair to bus users!
Do you know what the LRT fare is and who will pay for any operational losses?
Past 2-3 years some Penangites have been taking RapidPenang for free with Pas Mutiara. If this offer is removed to get them to take pay to ride on LRT, then we shall witness massive boycott of LRT.
Mind my words here. Seven years later you come back reading this if AnilNetto.com keeps this record.
Well, if what you predict turns out to be true, the State has gotten itself into a pickle, hasn’t it?
Let’s see how the State is going to solve this problem.
Rakyat – still sleeping? State has transport plan and LRT plan and people like you want to be convenient can always drive.
Let them boycott, let them walk, bicycle or take grab. Economic preference makes us want every thing free. LRT is very different from bus. There is no traffic jams and it comes every 10 mins unlike buses when is delayed, the same route buses comes together. Buses brake, move and brakes again many times when the traffic crawls. LRT pick up speed and travel at constant speed and slow down at the next station not jerking. Many feel seasick in the bus.
Mind my word, LRT is more dependable and best way to catch your flight to Penang airport. Your luggage no problem as there are lifts to take.
How you say luggage no problem ? Got space ah in the rail carriage ?
What happens if it is peak period and the rail carriage is congested with people ? What if suddenly got electric failure ?
If like this, car not more convenient, ah ?
Uncle Rakyat, during peak period, the road is very congested. your car can still moves very fast? What happen if electricity fails? Your car can through the junction? …
Why you never take so many feedback from your readers? Apparently you are anti LRT. Don’t worry for the operational expense as car users will have to fork out more later to pay for LRT running. So simple yet you still refuse to understand?
It was the original Halcrow consultants who did not recommend an elevated LRT system.
Moreover can we afford such an expensive system with questionable ridership (given the small population). The Penang government has an annual budget of just RM1bn per yer. The federal government has a massive RM1.5tn debt.
How do you know that it is only the car users who will have to pay and the money won’t come out from public coffers? Why not those pushing for it pay for any losses?
halcrow is not well known as transport consultant. They are swallowed eaten up. Same as US …consultant recommended all bus for Sing apor. LKY throw the recommendation into the landfill to make Sing apor bigger and start the MRT If no MRT, how many buses and drivers are required and add to the road congestions, pollution and buying of oil to move people around?
Singapore buses, over 5,000 of them, carry more passengers than their MRT etc.
Say the buses carry half and MTR another half, it means Singapore needs 10,000 buses running 5 days at morning and evening peak hours. Can we get good service from 10,000 drivers? 10,000 buses are occupying the roads and night time, 10,000 buses are in the depot. Some for service, washing and cleaning.. Imagine how big will be the depots and how many night workers are required? They have to employed Penang Kias as it is cheaper and Penang kias love it because they earned more than Penang manager
You mean, Penang kias can go there and work, earn 3 times more money, maybe more in the future, grow old, retire and can come back here to stay in their retired life.
Penang can become like a retirement home. Less concrete, brick and mortar , less cars and less congestion on the road.
Good idea, shriek.
Of course. Penang kia after working in Sing apor, is not very rich. Dont expect them to stay in Wong Fei Hoong typed houses. They can afford landed houses or condo with facilities which is so much chipper then Sing apor
Info on MTR can be found here. Mass Rapid Transit (Singapore) – Wikipedia. It has only 560 driving trains compare to 5000 buses – all automated and driverless with 2500 carriages. Many lines are underground – save space, noise and pollution. End of day, trains can parked at the nations and only those needs maintenance are at the depot.
How many cars/km road (car density) of Singapore compared to Penang or Malaysia?
How come Singapore so backward, use fossil fuel bus and create pollution when now got EV ?
Now they got change or not or they got no money to do that ?
More buses means means shorter turn around time means more drivers means more employment means more convenient for masses, mah.
Rakyat, you expect sing apor buses to run on water? if Penang Island is like Sing apor, you have land to build more power plants? Think b4 you comment..
Congestion charges are among the measures outlined in the Kuala Lumpur Traffic Master Plan 2040 (PITKL 2040) to address traffic congestion in the capital city.
https://www.nst.com.my/news/nation/2025/02/1180275/congestion-charges-among-measures-mulled-ease-kl-traffic-woes
Congestion charges can defray cost of LRT in the future?
After making Rakyat to become dependent of cars to move around, now they want to introduce congestion tax to force our Rakyat to use LRT.
Burdening our Rakyat more, just to make money all around ? Is this their idea ?
Come GE16, better to send them back from where they came.
Never to trust them … ever.
Why not? Many are single occupancy driver coming to town.They bring tin kosong to town and occupy a space for 10 persons. Can I park a bus or truck in a parking lot in your housing estate?
Sure, please by all means, upgrade yourself as a LRT user. The more the people follow you, the better it is for us car users. Less congestion on the road, hopefully.
By all means you drive with less traffic if there is a LRT. So much when you claim yourself as green and environment person. Gomen will raise parking fees and reduce parking lots since Penang has a better transport. Less parking lots – more trees and footpaths for pedestrians – persons walking on the roads
There are EV motorbikes, motorcars, vans, lorries , trucks and buses. Are not these motorized battery operated electric vehicles considered green and safe for our environment ?
Government officials often do not demonstrate independent thinking and usually like to take the easy way out by following the actions and recommendations of other countries, just like yourself and a few others here in reference raising parking fees, congestion fees, etc etc etc.
Rakyat 8 – Sing apor is an island and so is Penang. Sing apor has a closed vehicle system and if Penang cars want to run in sing apor, they have to pay and pay to enter CBD. Penang has not only its Penang vehicles but all over from Thailand and even from Sabah and Sarawak – all free to run in Penang island
Now you support EVs. Yet you kbkb about ugly pylons sticking out. Without those pylons, how to charge EVs?
Rakyat – EVs no electricity how to move? Jalan kaki. You kbkb about the ugly polyon. without them you expect EV to be wifi charging?…
Why buses need to cover all especially in high class or well do areas? They can afford to call uber, grab or taxi otherwise it is a hantu bus. The LRT is the artery Even HK has 4 main lines. one from Central to Shenzhen. The other from kowloon to North west and to airport. the other is the hong kong island line.
What a silly idea to ask the rich to use own cars or grab or taxi, etc. If the idea is to promote having less cars on the road, then asking buses to be used in certain area only defeats the purpose, doesn’t it ?
Rakyat you are more silly. Can you tell who are the rich take Rapid bus. Rush for the bus and pack in the tin, get pick pocket, scold by other passengers for not moving in, giving RM100 for a RM ticket, has to give up seats for woman with a kid, pregnant women and pek moh. If rich and can afford, why take bus? Take LRT better.But to take LRT has to take bus first to go to LRT station.
Federal government is paying for it. Money spent here is better than going to corruption. Fuel subsidy will be gradually remove to fund such public transportation. Only car users are worried, not those taking public transportation who are looking forward to the LRT.
LRT will only benefit thosed living and working close to the lines. How to get to and from the LRT stations?
Feeder bus plying around residential area to bring people to nearest LRT station.
Has the State mentioned anything about introducing feeder buses to residential areas to support the LRT line ?
Just wait for it. The government should have a plan to revamp the cutmrrent bus service onceLRT is in place, to allow integration of services.
It was stated that the LRT project is slated for completion in 2030.
Does this mean we will have to wait until then for the rest of the infrastructure plan to be unveiled? Why does the state need to take this approach?
Why not unveil the entire plan from the beginning? Is there something they are afraid of?
uncle? rakyat – the lrt may encounter gold mine along the route and has some delay. In 5 years time, you can predict what happen? Anything can happen even to you
Are you saying that in the coming GE16 in a year or 2, the current government might lose in the election and the LRT project might come to a halt ?
Mmm, maybe. Mega projects has been cancelled before like the crooked bridge, the HSR from KL to Singapore, etc and compensation paid using Rakyat money.
So, who knows, what can happen in 5 years time.
tech no logic keeps updating especially with AI. Can you Rakyat whay kind of train Penang kias will be riding?
” tech no logic ” . ” whay kind of train”. Kepala pusing lah. Do not understand your reply in silly English.
You often respond in this way, which makes it difficult for us to understand your points and to reply effectively.
This leads you to believe that you’ve succeeded in the conversation on the topic, when that is usually not the case.
Do you understand or not ?
That’s right!
Just wait for the new transportation system in 5 years time!
Anil should approach the authorities for further information on future transport plan. Ask and thou shall find the answer!
If we really uphold CAT/transparency, no need to wait for people to ask. Just disclose all plans.
Indeed! We, the Rakyat, are wondering what is the real reason why this state government is engaging in this cat-and-mouse game especially in matters involving public information.
The state government is not a private business entity but a public body.
They have been governing this state since 2008 but only recently they introduced the Penang local plan, and even that has issues.
rakyat 8 – state will never tell you. asking wrong party
Why do you say the State will never tell?
They seem to be all-knowing and are discussing many other aspects of the LRT Project, even though the project has been taken over by the federal government.
So, which party should we ask? The Federal – MOT, MRT Corp, MOF, etc ? Is there any other party involved in the project that We, the Rakyat, do not know about ?
you go and find it out – you can drive and is veery convenient to you
You said, ” the state will never tell you. asking wrong party ” So, you tell us then. Why ask us to go and find out ?
Otherwise, we take it that you are just pretending to know something, when in actual fact you do not know anything.
state is state and federal is federal. Adun can present his speech in Parliament in KL?
LRT just started and as a Senior better your LRT ride first as you have not sit in a LRT before just like person have not set in a plance and fly. Construction may take a few years and you may not have the chance
Do not change the subject. You still did not answer my question as to why the state will never tell us Rakyat about the LRT or other mega projects in detail.
You have been counting the chicks b4 they are hatched?
Do not change the subject. You still did not answer my question as to why the state will never tell us Rakyat about the LRT or other mega projects in detail.
No need to talk about chicks and hatching. Meaningless !
Has the State and MOT started on the expansion of the PIA ?
The State and MOT said they will begin renovating the PIA at the same time with LRT construction.
What is the progress ?
They can certainly look into introducing smaller EV buses to support the LRT rail system.
You still prefer your own convenience to drive? Whether is Ev or petrol, they still support LRT
They orso operate like GRaB. pick you up right at the door step for your convenience
Issue more licenses to other private companies willing to invest in bus transportation, with the condition that only electric vehicles (EVs) are used.
You interested in operating? Dont kbkb if you get burnt.
LRT is usually built where there is dense population. What is the point of building LRT in ulu or sua pah areas
Indeed, ulu, swampy, dirty and smelly areas with rubbish strewn all over the place. So what is the State’s plan after completion in 2030 ?
It is the same with buses. Buses do not cover all parts of the suburbs.
True, true, and the State still hasn’t figured out how to resolve this problem, has it?
You still have not figure and solve about transportation in Malaya? You have been a Senior and yet you do not know who covers it?
You still did not answered my question as to why the state will never tell us Rakyat about the LRT or other mega projects in detail.
It shows you are just pretending to know.
why should Penang gomen go and figure? You should figure out with your MP
True. For some of us, the bus stop is about half a kilometer away.
There are about four bus stops along the entire length of the road, which is approximately a couple of kilometers.
However, we rarely see a bus passing by or using the route.
Bus stops tend to decay (wooden beams) or rust (metal beams) and become damaged, all due to poor maintenance.
While we notice the bus stops are rebuilt, buses still rarely, if ever, use the route. (1)
How long you talk to walk half a kilometre? As Senior, how long you exercise? You cant tell but you can talk alot?
Our maintenance culture is lacking, lah. Has been for a long long time. PAS will put the blame on the colonist.
According to the LRT plan, it will not pass by our area. So, with no bus and no rail system, we will continue to rely on our cars as usual and is actually convenient.
very lucky.if LRT does pass by your house. It will be very noisy. You will be like the LRT- wake up when the LRt start to run early in the morning and can only go to sleep, when the LRT stops
CM Chow had stated that road pricing and city entry fees are being considered as part of the Penang Transport Master Plan (PTMP).
But before you do that, you need a decent public transport network. A single LRT line will not do the trick.
Anything must start small, can always expand the network later. After all the complaints are the initial cist already too high!
Why not opt for cheaper, more effective options?
Bus to LRT is a step forward.
Bus will still be there to play complementary role.
Trust a new network when the LRT is running.
Ridership is unlikely to be enough to cover the operations and maintenance costs. Who will pay for the deficits when the state government’s budget is so low?
Since Penang LRT rail system is now under the ownership of MRT Corp., shouldn’t they be responsible for or shouldering the operations and maintenance cost ?
uncle rakyat – who told you so? please go and read and find out carefully.
Well, if what I have said is not correct then tell us Rakyat who should be responsible for the operations and maintenance cost of the Penang LRT.
If you can’t, just admit you don’t know anything one. Don’t sim[ply say say, this and that, like kbkb.
It was announced that the Federal Government had taken over the project from the state government, appointing Mass Rapid Transit Corp (MRT Corp) as the developer and asset owner.
uncle rakyat – do you know who owns the mrt corp? dont cinchai say this or that. you insult taxes paid to the government
Since questioned it, you tell us who owns the MRT Corp ?
And do not change the subject. You still did not answer my question as to why the state will never tell us Rakyat about the LRT or other mega projects full details.
Just pretending to know, are you ?
Let car owners pay for the LRT running – higher road tax, higher bridge toll, electronic road pricing, higher car park charges, higher fuel price etc. so many ways to tax car users to subsidise LRT ridership. However many car owners like you refuse to acknowledge this fact.
Why should ordinary people pay so much for a poor choice in heavy infrastructure (RM17bn LRT) when there are better, cheaper, faster options?
The same logic as to why the nation has to subside the rich in cheap oil price? See China is developing renewable energy like solar, wind and waves. After the capital costs, no need to buy oil, gas or coal to generate electricity. According to PKR, Malaysia has 37 million cars – more than the whole population. End of life, where to dump the cars? HK tram is an icon and operating for more than 100 years – same shape and style
Our State chief gave out a statement saying that Penang was really serious about renewable energy.
He said this after opening the Malaysian Photovoltaic Industry Association (MPIA) solar road show at a hotel.
This was sometime in May 2024.
Now being Feb. 2025, what we have is some funny looking concrete pylons carrying electric cables to the island.
It seems island needs more electricity. What has happened to the solar, wind and hydro renewable energy he was wanting to implement ?
Just talk talk only ? Nothing happening ?
Uncle rakyat, the state needs more. You have bee using more electricity to power your computer to exercise your democratic rights. If no electricity how to key in the computer? As a senior and rakyat how come you pay electricity bills to Penang State gomen and all of us to TNB?
rakyat – you want state to generate electricity? You cant explain T NASIONAL B? You want T Selanor B, T Perlis B, T Pinang B?
LRT is more comfortable and everyone knows where it goes unlike buses with 4 ekor numbers. LRT accelerates to a certain speed and then deaccelerate when it comes to a station unlike buses – jerks, stop, accelerates as there are other vehicles, pedestrians, dogs and cats across it path. Many cant stand the smell and the jerking movement of the bus
Haiyo, you so old old thinking one lah. You are still in the sixties, seventies and eighties or what ?
Those days open air, window down, and one gets all kinds of smell with jerking included. Nowadays still got ah like that ?
Uncle Rakyat – you never take buses. You drive as it is very convenient. Trying taking packed bus. The a/c is not powerful. If a/c is on full, it become kereta lembu. In traffic jam, all vehicles move and stop every few minutes and that is where the jerk and fully loaded bus. Modern bus is bigger carries more needs to press the accelator harder and same with the brakes. You dont know New ton’s law? You take SPM and not Senior Cambridge exams?
Last time curry puff only 50 sen, now about RM2.70. We know price will go up in tandem with rise of wages!
Last time I buy curry puff, the size of my big palm was only 10 to 15 cents.
Now it has shrunk many times smaller and is expensive, so stopped buying all this stuff. Can’t afford it anymore.
Whether wages goes up or not, the greedy business people will still continue to raise the prices, giving various silly reasons.
Cant afford? But can afford to drive, pay road tax, parking, car wash, fancy horn and sporty exhaust pipe
From March 2, 2025, Penang parking fees will be increased from RM0.40 to RM0.60 every half an hour, while the daily parking rate increased from RM6 to RM8, while the monthly pass remains at RM150.
Land become more expensive and economically not worth having more roads and cars on the. More cars with traffic noise make people sick and gila. This decrease productivity and increase medical cost to the nation. Sing apore does not mind building underground for MTRs or even road tunnels as cars are hidden from sight and less interaction with people walking.
If the State or Federal want to tax this and tax that, then it does not make sense to want to build more roads, tunnel through hills, plan for undersea tunnel, having 2 bridges, etc for car users, does it ?
You can have your LRT rail system, pay for it or free ride and we have our road system and hopefully there will be less congestion and more comfort for car users.
uncle rakyat, if you dont have better alternative, how can road be less congestion?
Uncle rakyat, gomen tunnel through hills because there is no other alternative transport or you want to wait for another 10 to 20 years for drone taxi? They know uncle rakyat wants convenience. Others also wants convenience including those taking buses, kapcais. Sorry to bechah or bicycle as they are too slow
Penang LRT rail system is now a federal project. If federal can have money to build infrastructure in Middle East then they should have more than enough of our tax payers money for this LRT project without unnecessarily taxing and squeezing our Rakyat for more.
Exercise your democratic rights -go and ask PM and his PKR party MPs and members about building infra in ME
The China high speed rail network is currently operating as a loss venture. But it is a service to connect rural people to the city.
Penang LRT may not be profitable. But it is a new directive to serve people. Look at it as a CSR from the state government.
Yes, but have you compared China’s reserves with the Penang government’s reserves and the Malaysian federal government’s spiralling debt?
The debt is necessary because Penang Kias have been contributing very substantial to the Federal Gomen coffer unlike east coast states. They deserve to be rewarded. By have a better public transport, they productivity will further improve. They spent less time in travelling, more convenient and comfort to reserve energy for next day
Since you say you know who is the owner of Penang LRT, you tell us 1.8 million Penangites who the owner is.
Or you are simply bluffing, pretending to know.
China was very poor up to year 2000. We have been sending money to them to buy bicycle, sewing machine, food and repair houses. How come within 20 years they are so rich and we are so poor? We have so many 5 years malaysia plans and vision 2020?
How can the cheaper be more effective? you have not been to the buses. They accelerate, deacerate, slam on the brakes, go around tight corners, cramp like cattle. Before you sit, the bus moves. Everyone wants to be infront and the driver thinks it is full and will not pick more passengers. Driver has to shout “masuk belakang” sound obscene to make standing passengers to move to the back. No shade or shelter at the bus stop when it rains. Unlike station, one can be there 24 hours not affected.
What? All these things you are saying are still happening ?
I once followed a bus whose driver was driving like he was on a racecourse.
Called up their office and filed a complaint about it. That was a few years back.
I have seen many bus shelters that are poorly maintained, and they look like they haven’t been used by anyone. They are dirty and dusty.
Congestion charge without solid public transportation a no-go, says Loke by Mohamad Fadli dd 19 Feb 2025, 08:04 PM
https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/nation/2025/02/19/congestion-charge-without-solid-public-transportation-a-no-go-says-loke/
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What have you got to say now, Rilakarma ? Important to note, CM Chow is not MOT minister.
Let him consider whatever he wants. We, the Rakyat, will find a way to circumvent the problem, if needed.
We just hope the business community does not get affected by slow or low business.
Sing apor with MTRs, LRTs make Sing $ three times than RM.If we have MTRs, our RM will go up with blooming business
The Malaysian government is looking to build a light rail transit (LRT) or a tram-bus network in Johor Bahru and surrounding districts, in a move to ease congestion once the Johor Bahru-Singapore Rapid Transit System (RTS) Link from Woodlands is completed. This will also improve Johor state capital’s public transport links for its residents, visitors and workers.
https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/se-asia/malaysia-looking-at-lrt-or-tram-bus-system-for-rts-link-to-ease-congestion-in-jb
People in Johor Bahru will welcome the news, unlike some Penang people opposing such initiative.
Yes, some members of our Rakyat have opposed it. It’s important to recognize that our Rakyat have the right to voice their preferences and concerns.
However, it is concerning that the State, elected by our Rakyat, has chosen to move forward with the LRT project despite these objections, with the first phase already initiated.
The LRT is on. The questions are the locations of the stations and parking spaces for kapcai and cars. Which are the main stations for interchange to further lines and also buses. They should include some shops.
Yes, the LRT is on. Good or bad, whatever problems arises from it, the state will have to take full responsibility for it. They along with their supporters insisted on it, yes or no?
Uncle rakyat – that is the world. With deepseek, China is using AI for everything. China is using electric buses. if you love car – change to EV and not pollute the air or raise the world temp. If fact they believe the world’s temp has increased by 1.5 deg C with is COP’s target for the future. Bangkok in Dec has to give free travel on is LRT as it is congested and heavily polluted. Same with New Delhi – largest demo with bullock carts on roads and very bad pollution.
Do you know how ‘Deepseek’ works or not ? Its China made. Everything you say and do with or in ‘Deepseek’, they will know.
Johor folks never complain about their city development with RTS
https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/se-asia/johor-bahru-to-have-s786m-mall-topped-by-four-towers-at-the-end-of-rts-ride-from-woodlands
Johor state is not like our small island, our little precious Pearl of the Orient.
Johor used to own sing apor and they can see how Sing apor become a GARDEN CITY as it s only 15 min walk across the straits
What are your reasons for opposing? You still can have your car and the roads. They are not going to take away the roads?
Mother Nature has bestowed upon us a magnificent island, yet our political leaders, constrained by limited perspectives and short-term thinking, seem ill-equipped to safeguard its beauty.
Their focus remains fixated on immediate financial gain, neglecting the profound implications our actions today will have on future generations.
You said is correct and yet why you want convenience using a polluting car? Majlis has build cycle lanes for you
As their development projects advance, we witness the reckless removal of hillsides and the construction of tunnels through our natural landscape. Will this reckless expansion cease? The answer is a resounding no.
These endeavors are fundamentally unsustainable and destined to yield temporary results. Eventually, the demand for further expansion will lead to the erosion of our hills and the emergence of new, unforeseen challenges.
Ah dee rakyat – tell us what is with tunnels? Your fellow rakyat remove the forest housing monkeys, snakes, unknown flora and fauna to plant oil palm, durians, rubber trees. Why you never kbkb?
Also it is crucial to acknowledge that the maintenance and upkeep of our infrastructure is not a priority for those in power.
Their lack of foresight threatens not only our environment but also the legacy we leave for those who come after us.
You are minority just like PAS. You want to deny the majority’s right to have LRT?
Rakyat – you can always oppose by not taking LRT when it operates. You have all rights to boycott LRts. I am very happy for you to do that. Senior pays half price and less one like you do not make any difference when it is only half price
Those who support this LRT project and have embraced it, should not later complain that it is unsuitable for a small island like ours, especially when it becomes increasingly congested with concrete beams, brick, mortar, sand, tar, dust and more cars.
Silly looking electric pylons sticking out from the sea along side the 1st bridge is one such example.
Always kbkb. Without the electric you will not have enough electricity and hide behind the key unknown using the named Rakyat. Laying cables in the seabed very expensive and if anything happen, you dive in the channel and look where is the breakage and expensive to do the underwater repair. You think is easy to find where the cable is broken and repair?
Does the LRT rail system run on electricity ?
If it does, it makes sense this sudden appearance of electric cable pylons and the need for additional electric power for Penang island.
But the state did not mention this, did they ?
What if there is a electric breakdown ? Will the LRT rail system be shutdown temporarily ?
Same, your car runs on aqua? You mention it? No wonder Penang have water shortages
Penang have water shortages ? Now the state is all very quiet about it. Any reason why ?
LRT has thousands of item. You want state to write down everything and where you want them to keep the info. They cost $$$ and you pay for them?
Silly you. How much electricity does a keyboard need ?
State want to do grand grand things, go for big big mega projects. Everything want to cramp into a tiny little island.
Why need so much electricity for a tiny little island.
Electric cables dangling across the channel. Rocket shape like concrete pylons to hold them, sticking out from the seabed.
It looks kinda eerie at night. Easter island ?
Happily riding the LRT, power shortage happens, get stranded on top of the 20 feet bridge while crossing the channel.
And it so happens, there is heavy rain and strong winds. Mother Nature doing her rounds.
The rail carriage can topple or not ? Just wondering, thinking about this scenario.
How is the water situation now. Almost three weeks and no rain. The leaves of plants and trees are turning brown. PBAPP so far silent. No situational reports for Rakyat ?
Uncle rakyat, your keyboard needs some electricity run but not water. Why there is shortage of water hanging over your head and Penang when your keyboard does not consume a drop?
Rakyat you trap your own you are person kbk about Rain harvesting and rain water tank. You raised about NRW – Selangor has been taking action on NRW more than 20 years ago. You are behind time
You talk about pylons sticking out from the sea and NRW and rain havesting. You senget all the time, You claim freedom of expression and why only you and not others?
Uncle rakyat – what info you want? How come you dont receive water supply but houses and shops around you are still getting aqua? You did not pay your water bill and expect tol get water?
Why not you complain about high cat population causing congestion and pollution? LRT is for masses, unlike cars serving personal household needs and wants (2nd and 3rd car). Only those affluent car drivers are making noise as though they know the future when they are the problem of today!
He wants free speech. See what is his free speech in response.
Cat population??? What cat population are you talking
about ?
I haven’t come across any findings that suggest an increase in the cat population can lead to congestion and pollution. This is a mystery to me.
Don’t worry about cars. Once all you LRT supporters start using the rail system, the roads will be freed up for us car users to navigate comfortably.
Additionally, the state has built extra roads for us to reach our destinations more quickly.
uncle rakyat – shows your true colour. you kbkb about the new highway, concrete, mortar and bricks destroy the environment.How you yearn for more roads. Double standard
You have a car and without LRT, others want to have a car too. But do you have places to park? Or you have to pay more or park further away for free car park?
Yes, now that more roads are being constructed, it’s only natural that the state will need to build more car parks, particularly multistory ones.
As for land, they could consider removing or demolishing the broken-down, unkempt, and unsightly heritage buildings, especially in the Georgetown area.
Additionally, they could expand the narrow roads, remove cross junctions, and eliminate traffic lights in Georgetown and other areas to prevent congestion and improve traffic flow
Now you want the state to build more concrete, bricks, mortar and cut down hills, widen the road making Seniors unable to cross the road and remove the traffic control in the junctions? You want the state to be dictator to demolish unsightly heritage buildings belong to someone owning them?
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Quote : Penang Green Agenda 2030, which aims to enhance sustainability through eco-tourism projects and urban greening initiatives. The state government’s focus on revitalising George Town’s waterfront is also expected to further boost tourism and quality of life in the coming years.
https://www.malaymail.com/news/malaysia/2025/02/13/kl-jb-penang-and-ipoh-are-among-asia-pacifics-best-100-cities-in-2025-here-are-the-reasons-why/166499
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Personally I hope more eco friendly projects like improved pedestrian walks and clean straits to attract more dolphins coming.
Happy Thaipusam day for those celebrate it today.
For Penangites who may not be aware : the Waterfall Hilltop Temple in Penang, that has a 21.6-metre tall seven-storey main tower, is the largest temple dedicated to Lord Murugan outside India.
For those who don’t believe in basic Feng Sui, just look at the video in the link below of 1982 vintage Penang.
https://www.facebook.com/share/p/1B9PxARZmb/
After 40+ years, Penang Road stretch still has not regained its glory past? Losing out it’s mesmerising past appeals to modern day complexes like Gurney or Queens bay?
WHY? Because Komtar original vision has not been realized while the smooth flow of “Chi” Energy has been blocked off by the Octopus Overhead Pedestrian Walk, sucking away the vibrancy???????
https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1PGq5GnYKA/
Don’t ignore pedestrians. Walkways design is terrible in Malaysia especially in modern Penang. Motor vehicles take presence over walking folks. No wonder obesity is highest in Penang (street food factory taken into account?) and road accidents are frequent.
Listen to the foreign visitors in the clip above.
What say you, the influencers?
They want convenience. once in the car, they will not walk and will drive even is around the corner.
Ah, please, let’s not exaggerate, okay? Who in their right mind would want to drive a car just to go next door? Around the corner, within walking distance, is considered next door, yes or no?
Not exaggerate. You want CONVENIENCE. What is convenient? Convenient people feel convenience to drive than to walk. Otherwise you cant define Convenient.
Yes, you exaggerate. You said, ” once in the car, even to go around the corner also people will drive.” Where got like this ?
Now that you got TRAPPED by your own statement, you want to change the subject by talking about convenience. This is what you usually do. Correct or not, shriek?
And you still haven’t told us Rakyat, who is the owner of LRT. Talk big only.
Chief Minister Chow Kon Yeow has announced plans to install up to 1,000 new CCTV cameras across Seberang Perai over the next two years. This expansion aims to strengthen the existing security infrastructure and ensure the ongoing safety of residents and visitors.
He also talked and impressed upon us Rakyat on the use of renewable energy for both state and public use. What is the progress on this so far or is it all just talk, talk, fell good only.
We now have electric cables dangling in the air supported by concrete pylons sticking out from the seabed. Something like Easter island statues except that this is in the shape of a rocket ?
With little more than 1,049 sq km of land to a population of 1.77 million, Penang is only slightly larger than Singapore (734 sq km), but the state has registered a whopping 2,671,237 cars and motorcycles – and the number is continuing to soar with each passing year.
Even mainland Penang is larger than Singapore.
Rilakkarma is comparing the car density, not the land size.
The idiom “can’t see the forest for the trees” means to be so focused on the details of a situation that you lose sight of the bigger picture.
No need to be protective of the increasing car population.
Clearing hills, building flats, condos, highways, flyovers, shops, tall buildings = development.
Leaving jungles, wild animals, mountains, rivers undisturbed = lack of development.
What’s the point you are making?
Can you elaborate?
Kuromi, glissantia is highlighting how development is perceived differently by individuals, states, and governments. Many equate development with concrete structures and urban expansion, but this perspective often overlooks the intrinsic value of nature.
Understanding the importance of preserving jungles, wildlife, and natural landscapes is crucial. Nature provides essential benefits—biodiversity, ecosystem services, and mental well-being.
Very good comment and your CAR needs space to run. What is the point of road just 100m long? Also your car needs space to park, to make U turns. Your car need water to cool and to wash and taken away fom rakyat to drink kopi or kau kau. It needs petrol to run and you want gomen to subside the oil?
You love more roads cutting through hills,forest,jungles for your Convenience.
True progress can be measured not just in physical structures, but in our ability to harmonize with and protect our natural environment for future generations.
Yes build roads for your CONVENIENCE can protect natural environment. They are not for future gen but as you said YOUR CONVENIENCE
Overview development progress the new bypass connecting Lebuhraya Tun Dr. Lim Chong Eu directly to Bandar Baru Ayer Itam in Penang.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=vBttzGtK2vs
Saw the video. I suppose this is a good example of what modern living is all about. Elevated roads cutting through our precious hilly environment, cramped next to pigeon hole building. Wonder how the children are growing up under such modern environment.
Someone was talking about building infrastructures to support modern living for the next fifty years. Wonder if our precious hilly environment will still be there ? By then, will the island turn into a modern day slum ?
They built for cars for YOUR convenience. You ask for it. The elevated bridge not for pedestrians or LRTs. Here the elevated bridge 2 x 7.5m = 15 m wide for 4 lanes. But LRT bridge is only 5m wide which is 3 times narrower
You can always move to stay in Kelantan. The choice is yours as there are different options for different living.
Sure, why not? Kelantan is a beautiful place to live, if only they could resolve their tap water problem.
What is the mental state of the people living in the state? Are there still people jumping off the bridge?
I wonder why they didn’t consider the, ” different options for different living. ” It’s easy to say things like that, isn’t it?
Uncle rakyat. You oredi solve the water problem. There you can really carry out rain harvesting. Kelantan has more rain than Penang with NE Monsoon. Further Kelantan has more green and less development. I am very happy for you when you said Kelantion is a beautiful to live. Have you live there b4? Then go for your CONVENIENCE
Kampung Siam (off Burma Road, near a reclining Buddha Siamese temple and a Burmese Buddhist temple), a settlement of Malaysians with Siamese and Burmese ancestry in Penang, is turning the final page on its 200-year-old existence to make way for development.
The tenants there had pursued every possible option, including appeals to federal court, throughout their 11-year battle to remain in their homes. The courts determined that the landowners have the legal right to develop the property.
Buidling more properties for whom when Penang’s population is ageing and the fertility rate is well below population replacement level?
More young (and usually rich) people from Kedah will relocate to Penang if PAS continue to rule Kedah after the next GE.
Like it or not Penang island current demographic profile attracts certain people. Worry not for the demand of new migrants from other states particularly Kedah!
My friend from Kulim has bought a condo at The Light. The family will relocate to Penang!
Building properties are by developers. When they lost $$$, they dont ask for help. when they make $$, government tax them and with developer’s taxes, government use them for Senior Rakyat
For LRT bridge, you only see the train every 7 to 15 mins passes by. But bridge for cars, you see 4 cars every seconds. For 7 mins, you will see 1680 cars passing by. Is that what you miss and wanted for your convenience?
And you are saying this is because of what? Are you feeling envious because some people have their conveniences and are enjoying them?
Not jealous – you want convenience you pay but you kbkb what you pay,the prices are going up. Mechanics have to cover rising costs HAVE TO CHARGE YOU MORE
Rakyat, you complain and yet you want cars for your convenience?
Since you say you know who is the owner of Penang LRT, you tell us 1.8 million Penangites who is the owner.
Or you are simply bluffing, pretending to know.
Rakyat – so simply. The one who pays is the owner. If you dont pay how can be the owner? Just like bicycle, kapcai, Ev. you pay. is yours. You pay and the things dont belong to you?