There was much ado in the press here about Indonesia flexing its muscles over the tasks that domestic workers have to perform in Malaysia. Could it be that, with the poverty rate in Indonesia reportedly falling, there is less desperation to work in Malaysia?
The poverty rate in Indonesia has plunged from 27 per cent in 1999 to around 12 per cent now.
At the rate things are going, will there come a time when the poverty rate in Indonesia falls below that of Malaysia’s? Will more Malaysians then have to find work in Indonesia? How far-fetched is this possibility envisaged in Kenny Gan’s article?
While we are focusing on ETP, GTP and what-not, Indonesia appears to have a comprehensive poverty alleviation programme that includes “low-cost housing, cheap electricity, cheap foods and others … under coordinated programs. A welfare index would also be formulated to map out the peopleβs welfare.”
See this Antara report from Kompas:
Indonesia’s Poverty Rate to be Lowered to 11.7 Pct
Kamis, 5 Januari 2012 | 10:40 WIB
JAKARTA, KOMPAS.com – The government will lower the poverty rate from 12.36 percent in 2011 to 11.7 percent this year, Coordinating Minister for Peopleβs Welfare Agung Laksono said.
“It is expected the rate will drop to 11.7 by March 2013 and to achieve the target all parties need to work hard,” he said in his new year speech here on Wednesday.
He said in September 2011, the poverty rate was recorded at 12.36 percent and in March 2011 at 12.5 percent. In March 2010 it was recorded at 13.3 percent while in March 2009 it stood at 14.1 percent.
“The number of poor people continues to drop according to the National Statistics Agency (BPS).”He said various efforts would be made to optimize the
implementation of poverty alleviation programs among others by increasing the effectiveness of the implementation of the programs.“The community-based poverty alleviation program must continue to be increased.” Apart from that he said a social security package would also be made to increase the effectiveness of and expand poverty alleviation programs.
Programs such as low-cost housing, cheap electricity, cheap foods and others would also be carried out under coordinated programs. A welfare index would also be formulated to map out the peopleβs welfare.
“People empowerment-based programs also need to be integrated into the national peopleβs empowerment program.”
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I have been going through Indonesia’s Master Development Plan 2011-2011-2025. One thing that struck me was that Indonesia had finally got its act together. There is a vision and a plan to follow through. This document reminds me of our Vision 2020. Clear, with concrete steps.
Compared this to Najib ETP, GTP etc and the wishy washy plan.
I am not surprised that Indonesia will overtake Malaysia
Yes, it’s just a matter of Indonesia will overtake Malaysia and Singapore only because of their HUGE population. HUGE TAX money for their government, just like current day China. It’s just a matter of time China will overtake US. That is their natural strength and not the fault of BN administration.
No? You are an ignoramus.
No, you sudah kena pakatan syndrome.
And please tell me what is wrong with pakatan syndrome, you moron?
Pakatan syndrome you pun tak tau ??? You have to turun padang and listen to grassroot opinions and not just shiok sendiri browsing pro-pakatan anil blog and others.
One of the pakatan syndrome indicator is that you believe whatever X said by pakatan without question.
Example of X:
1) famous September 16 nationwide frogs project
2) C4 myth
3) much more ~
Famous victim of pakatan syndrome: RPK.
Common victims of pakatan syndrome: You, Yang, Tong Lang, anil and millions of ordinary Malaysians.
GK, you are still ignorant and belching under the coconut husks. If you said so of big numbers (population) why is Africa still in hunger?
Exception for Brazil, Russia, India & China (BRIC countries) which gomens have woke up to the market economy and work towards a vision of prosperity for their people and nations, irrespective of skin colors.
If you don’t work right, how to prosper?
Leeching Ah Kong’s monies & oil money is one big mistake since the days of ApaNama.
Google corruption in China. Or can you read mandarin newspaper ??? Obviously you can’t.
The National People’s Congress (ε ¨ε½δΊΊζ°δ»£θ‘¨ε€§δΌ) of PRC is the largest parliament in the world with 2,987 members. With so many eyes and ears, you think they let go of corruptions so easily? If you are caught taking bribes from Yellow submarines, you can sing & cry sayonara to your family, hidden wealth or cow-milking condos. With 2,987 brains, President Hu Jintao must be the most assisted and most backed up smart, global leader in the world running a country with 56 ethnic groups. Give this gargantuan task to a ApaNama … dilemma and you are assured of mayhem the next… Read more »
Please lah buddy. What is in, in few thousands representative ???
You think a proper Parliament just like central representative of political parties, HUH ???
At least in Malaysia there are millions voters deciding their best government and thanks god, it’s BN all the way since MERDEKA !!!
Ok, stop it to avoid endless damage to your idol nation. They don’t know what is democracy. Can’t compare with us actually.
In 2003, China became the third country to send an astronaut into space on its own, four decades after the United States and Russia. In 2006, it sent its first probe to the moon. In 2008, China carried out its first spacewalk. China’s space station is slated to open around 2020, the same year the International Space Station is scheduled to close. If the U.S. and its partners don’t come up with a replacement, China could have the only permanent human presence in the sky. In 2020, Malaysia will be sending gaya-maids to China and the global markets. Oh yes.… Read more »
First of all, your comment is off topic lah. Why suddenly talking about China in outer-space ??? Ok, even you change the topic, I still can follow you. Why China can do many outer-space projects ??? Why ??? And why Malaysia have limited projects ??? Then, you have to check China’s total tax money vs Malaysia’s total tax money. A responsible BN government only put people first. As my 1Malaysia PM Najib saying, Rakyat Didahulukan, Pencapaian Diutamakan. Get it ??? BTW, many people regarded outer-space projects are just the fancy way of burning tax money. Why not build more higher… Read more »
GK, ask yourself where the majority of tax money went to all these 50 donkey years? Otherwise, why Idris has to warn us too-late of Malaysia Bankruptcy? China can do many wonders b’cos they know what is worth spending, both for the ‘renmin’ and for the nation and for diplomatic advantages. Malaysia Boleh only knows how to splurge and leech the nation high and dry. Compare Shenzhen & Penang, we are way too behind when we started the race of development much, much earlier in the 60’s. Tak malu kah? Nevermind, one day you will have to employ an Indon… Read more »
I don’t have exact data because I’m not the AG but I believe what I can see. Tax money for our road, schools, teachers $$$, infrastructure, subsidies, free medical and treatment, etc. Tunglang, why not you just acknowledge BN have contributed alot to Malaysia ??? Sometimes corruption just happen everywhere and there are laws to deal with them. Another thing is, before 308 (GE 12), oppositions have said wow corruptions are rampant in BN states. But just count how many real corruption cases exposed in pakatan controlled states after 308 ??? Certainly pakatan will not hesitate to publicize it if… Read more »
I am doing multipreneurship. No problem at all with the so feared hudud laws. No under table or you scratch me – I scratch you favors. In fact, I am looking forward to Kelantan as my cultural-eco-nature sanctuary for creative business & abode relaxation Malay architectural style.
When one abides by the 10 Commandments, what is there to fear or hide or lie.
The real reason for this scenario is the Indonesian maids prefer to go to work in Singapore. Some even get to use and drive their employers’ cars during their off days and from next year these maids will get a day off every week. At present Malaysians are working as waitresses in Singapore and some of them are moonlighting as maids and part time cleaners so don’t have to wait till 2029. These waitresses are earning much more than some professionals in Malaysia and I know of instances where these waitresses are better off than police Inspectors, even housemen training… Read more »
Let Singapore run the economic activities, plan & manage the resources and development in Johor (let go of your pride as a state) & we can surely see a new wave of influx of local & foreign workers to Johor.
And Johor will be the richest state with the highest income in Malaysia!
Will Johorean pride be lowered for the sake of its future?
Johor should see its strategic advantage of land & natural resources vis a vis Singapore.
Your statement is very seditious:
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Let Singapore run the economic activities, plan & manage the resources and development in Johor
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Anil, you know what to do before that tunglang enjoying curry rice in jail
Only your nincompoop head can think like that in a globalized world. Pity.
You should join the Katak band singing under the full moon below the coconut husks while self-inflating & … all night long!
BTW, are you still living in the 50’s era emergency?
Today, I just have curry chicken & curry prawns with delicious lady’s fingers. How seditious-delicious!
Here’s for a stinking, … male frog:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLSIJVZAumI&feature=related&w=400
One sign of increasing economic distress in Malaysia:
People driving around in motorcycles (with a cart attached) sorting through rubbish to get cans etc to sell to recycling companies.
This is just a step higher than the Filipinos who sorted through rubbish at the former “Smokey Mountain” dump site of Manila.
Thanks, Kai Lit.
Ironically, these are actually modern-day heroes who are helping us to conserve resources and reduce the mounting pile of discarded waste material.
No worry about the maids issue. If M’sia think longer term, it would be a good deal. Why? If you remember a reserach by Head of research at Corston-Smith Asset Management in Yr2009, M’sia at 70% of probability to epxort maids in 2029. Want to refresh what he said here; http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/malaysia/article/Malaysias-next-export-Maids/ Which I agree, BN buy everything with money, they shall buy and spend the way into developed nation by 2020 and left behind huge debt to be paid. Current debt level is 54% of GDP (law limit is 56%, no worry!, law can be changed to suit any level),… Read more »
I read the headline in Star last week, Idris now said, Malaysia will not be bankrupt…
We already have more civil servants than taxpayers. When the oil runs out, we shall export maids. Now that will be a wake up call for all and sundry.
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Ho Ho Ho, you know what, we are what we are today is because of the doing of the Chinese themselves !!!
In 1995, Chinese gave BN a resounding victory in Penang. Hoy!, Smart orang Penang, remember ar?
In 1999, Keadilan had a chance to change government but again, the Chinese support BN. Hello!!! And Chinese had no shame and called themselves smart and condemned Indian stupid. Sama sama bodoh la !!!
Anyway, to all the bodoh … please grab the LAST chance in this coming GE13 as we will either make it or lose it forever…
I may have another round of in-law political-champion rivalry comes GE13. The last one on the eve of 308 was ‘ugly’ which set the ‘destiny’ of father-in-law-hates-son-in-law till this day. I think (carefully) this time, I go spend my victory camaraderia with strangers at my favorite kopitiam in innercity George Town to avoid a predicted tiff at in-law’s house. And I can shout emotionally with euphoria joy rather than muffle my karaoke victory song (now this joy of existence money cannot buy). What’s the point when I am sure LGE will win hands down, my Bruce Lee singlet flies in… Read more »
tunglang, so sorry to hear that your father in law has belacan in his brain … Actually, he is not alone, still many are like that… These people i cant talk to them either, they are actually called USELESS….
Can’t blame them. Over-indoctrinated with 513 fear syndrome by Apanama Gang and now the Katak-Katak Loudmouth. This is what my father-in-law will reprimand comes every GE: “Don’t know what is die ah, no rice bowl to even eat then you will only know!” (a direct word by word transliteration from Teow Chew). Too bad he thinks we have our feet rooted to this land with deep growing roots unable to uproot and move on to greener pastures where the land is more fertile, rich in nutrients and allows one’s talents to express, grow and thrive in the sunshine of freedom… Read more »
tunglang because of people like your FIL, the nation perish !!!
Honestly, i would rather let those who think like that meet their Maker earlier in order to save the nation…
So takut mati, no rice to eat might as well mati cepat, no need to worry…
Many are like that that is why we are what we are today…
Tell him, even Malays wanted change why not Chinese???
Cannot speak Malay, don’t mix with Malays, how to change perception? The fear syndrome is always there. No thanks to ApaNama bags of tricks.
As I have commented earlier, we have now become the P….. of East and South East Asia
Anil, see the footnote of the chart. It clearly says the defition of poverty varies from one country to another. Indonesia sets it poverty line at 1 USD per day (roughly RM 120 a month). Malaysia sets it line at about RM 600 per month. So – we cannot compare countries simply based on national poverty lines. In September 2011, the incidence of poverty in Indonesia was 12% – meaning there are still 27 million individuals (almost equivalent to the entire population of Malaysia) living with less than 1 USD per day . Your statement “at the rate things are… Read more »
The thrust of my entry, irrespective of the definitions used, is that there are proportionately fewer Indonesians today living in desperate conditions compared to 1999.
yes, Chinese say “Fengsui goes round and round”.
If we didnt do an ABU on this 13th GE, our children’s children will be maids to Indo soon…
To compare nations, can use PPP
(Purchasing Power Parity)
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π Malaysians Indians will REJECT πΏ MiC π
π and what I can read n see here MAJORITY over here REJECT GILAkan ostrich …..AM I CORRECT β
π ELECTION IS COMING N PEOPLES POWER WILL CHANGE THIS SOMBONG@ARROGANT REGIME SOON β π
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Anil, you cannot use Indonesia as your spinning object because we are familiar with them. You have to ask LGE why there are limited low cost housing in Penang. Ada berani kah, aliran treasurer ???
Isn’t low cost housing your specialty? Don’t change the subject. If we become a maid exporting country, we can start off by sending Miss Tow Truck followed by Miss Cow.
And by that time, RM15000 a month would be the equivalent of 15000 rupiah, so you know who to offer after those two.
In fact the Malaysian govt under Najib Ammo Barang Naik is using Zimbabwe and Burma as the spinning point.
Malaysia Boleh is under ‘ economic free-falling’ day by day, you still feel easy and shake legs? Using Indonesia as close comparison is more meaningful since we import the most foreign labor from this once ‘backward’ country. And to see the reverse of progress in comparison is eye-opening to say the least. And now Indonesia is dictating their labors’ rights to Malaysia. Who are we now as employers? Tak malu kah? It speaks volume of Indon gomen now at the threshold of moving the country beyond low value labor market helped by its strong economy, better human rights and increased… Read more »
No, Indon workers (are unable) to do mid/high level management works. They only can do manual works. BTW, I don’t use foreign workers at all. I feel less patriotic and cannot properly convey my business concepts to them.
Is it patriotic to use a foreign woman in the exploitation of the submarine deal and then (she is found) murdered.
That C4 story is just a propaganda to bad mouth BN, get it buddy ??? If I remember correctly, the murderer already being sentenced, right ???
Gelak K bodoh, Altantuya will appear to you in the month of cheng meng, be very afraid, please be careful, watch behind you when you are alone… it will be very eeeeerie …
Now many Indo bakso are working in HK. They can speak Cantonese better than those from Penang. They get a room, Tv, free food, 1 day off and hang around in Victoria Park and they pay is more than RM3k per month more than Penangites are earning.
Gerakan K interested?