So we are going to have a royal commission of inquiry to look into the MACC’s investigative procedures and an inquest into Beng Hock’s death.
The government can no longer ignore public outrage over what has happened. Politically, Beng Hock’s death has shattered whatever “feel good” effect brought about by the Najib adminstration’s recent public relations initiatives.
By setting up a commission of inquiry and inquest, the Najib administration, apart from its stated objective of uncovering the truth, hopes to quell the anger over what has happened.
While many would welcome the setting up a commission of inquiry, we need to ask what impact previous commissions of inquiry have had.
What is the status of the key recomendations of those inquiries… into the operations of the police, the nude squats video, the Lingam video…
Is anyone even monitoring the status of the implementation of those recommendations?
We still don’t have an Independent Police Complaints and Misconduct Commission, the most important recommendation of the royal commission looking into the operations and management of the police.
Has our judiciary regained its independence and enhanced its credibility following the Lingamgate commission of inquiry?
Are the human rights of suspects and detainees now respected and upheld after the nude squats commmission of inquiry?
A high-level commission of inquiry is often a useful instrument for political leaders: it is like a sponge that can soak up public disquiet until the public forgets and moves on to the next hot potato. Whether anything positive and far-reaching will come out of the coming inquiry remains to be seen.
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Agree. This is all bulls*** to quell public anger. There were so many RCI, but no action taken after that. Nobody was punished and the same s*** happens all over again…
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that is why rakyat must not be fool by BN..a little bit cosmetic there and here..one nice slogan and wushh najib rating up to 65%..wow..suddenly people seems to forget Perak Crisis, suddenly people forgot the oil hike,, suddenly people forget that toll rates will be up again by end of this year..suddenly people forget the discrimination by federal agency towards PAKATAN states…and unfortunately Teoh had to die to make people remember again all this misdeed..what feel good feeling that you want to feel under BN regime?Pls la..until full reform is put forward..until new Federal Goverment is in place..nobodoy should feel good!!!
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You speak our minds Anil. And very often, you articulate what many of us intuitively feel.
The CCM Youth statement also reflected similar sentiments.
http://sivinkit.net/2009/07/21/statement-of-ccm-youth-death-by-detention/
http://www.thenutgraph.com/article-4490.html#comments
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Not to take away the sadness over Teoh Beng Hock’s death, its even sadder to think that it requires the death of an innocent young (man) in Malaysia to make the government bow to a demand for a royal commission of inquiry.
What about the death of Kugan? Does the government give no value to the life of a poor young (man) who was merely a crime suspect in police custody?
Are these 2 cases only different because one was a witness and the other was a suspect? If it is, then the word ‘innocent until proven guilty’ truly does not exist in Malaysia.
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Mark my words-nothing will come out of Beng Hocks Royal Comission-has ever anyone else been convicted based on previous investigations?? No……..
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It will be another let down all together.. my pity for you Malaysians!
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to thecabinet: Let me see some action on Kugan before I give you … the benefit of the doubt
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Im really worried what is going on in Malaysia.
One side is asking for reformation and the other side
is calling virtually for 1 Malaysia.
But still peoplesd wants to see the change truelly not mere lip talk with other hidden self interest motive.
Are the public at large taking the death of one seriously or merely pro to their own self interest and creating a racialism or political issue to distract from the TRUTH.
Let me ask you honestly, if we are born for one parent immaterial of caste, race or religion, are you sure of what is happening on Beng Hock’s death -
is it true whether it is a murder or accidental death by commit suicide.
What a hack we have elections to have our state and parliment representatives to bring this in parliment
or state assembly to voice out to bring justice to the family members of Beng Hock or even Kugan’s death in police custody or MACC.
This case is between Beng Hock’s family and MACC. what a hack we demonstrate or show playcards to provoke racial disunity and impartialism among ethenics.
We have the PM who wants to make 1 Malaysia. Hope he does in good faith and in respect of his own conscious and faith.
What he has promised afterhis hundred days, the 11 things he want to do, let the ra’ayat see.
To this all politicians immaterial you from ruling or opposition, please do not let the people of your own party doesnt provoke disunity and racial instinct to the real Malaysians – People Party( the representative elected to voice out our problem).
Sorry, have alot to convey but emotion and frustration is going seeing what is happening around – today the Ampasng UMNO and BN members. Shame on we as Malaysians do not understand the feeling of the deceased family and friends.
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… We have been shortchanged. The RCI will only investigate MACC procedures and the Inquest into cause of death.
MCA, MIC and Gerakan ministers in the cabinet are all part of this…
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publics wants royal commision to be formed to find out the truth. Now one is formed infact two (inquest). what … u all guys want!
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[...] Commission of inquiry: Soaking up public disquiet? [...]
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The Umno and BN really wants to believe we are all morons – that we have short memories and never recalled all the past misdeeds that later proved to have no outcomes or conveniently swept under the carpets after each RC, or whatever commissions set up to investigate… PKFZ, Toyol mansion, KJ’s ECM libra shares, the illegal land deals in Penang under KSK, the roof collapse in Trengganu, Altantuya, Lingamtape etc etc etc. Gggrrrrrr Speaking of KPI for 1Malaysia, start with these.
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why do you need a separate inquest by a magistrate? CORRECT CORRECT CORRECT again?
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Royal Commissions of Inquiry should inquire the Right Thing : Death of Beng Hock !
http://sagaladoola.blogspot.com/2009/07/royal-commissions-of-inquiry-should.html
Read the mainstream papers tomorrow and more or less you can probably guess what they are trying to do. It is not that hard ..
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Shouldn’t the RCI’s main terms of reference be:
•to investigate unexplained deaths whilst in the custody of state agencies;
•to unearth the reasons for such deaths;
•to put forward recommendations for actions and changes in procedures to safeguard those in taken into custody and to prevent such deaths in custody.
Those terms of reference would then cover Teoh Beng Hock’s death as well as A Kugan’s, the other 1,535 or so reported cases of unexplained deaths in custody from 2003-2007, and also all the others that must have happened before 2003 and after 2007 that the public are not aware of now.
Those terms would also cover reviewing the quality of current procedures and personnel within state agencies such as the MACC, the PRDM, the Prison Service and also other state run agencies now staffed by volunteers, such as the notorious RELA.
But after the RCI has met, investigated and recommended preventive/ corrective actions, then what?
The IPCMC is still not a reality and neither is a true JAC so what will be different after this brand new spick and span RCI?
Who in Malaysia has the clout to compel the UMNO/BN government to implement RCI recommendations?
And remember:
RCIs are serious stuff and a last resort item to be wheeled out from the state cupboard of actions. They are not to be treated as a mere emollient for public relations exercises to smooth and settle ruffled public feathers or they will soon lose their shine and potency.
An RCI is not an average aspirin/paracetamol that one can buy OTC in bulk to store aside to take for that mild cold or headache.
An RCI is like an antibiotic, and there are only a limited number of antibiotics around in the world to save all us human beings from really nasty bugs which is why it is important and imperative that one completes the whole course prescribed to one.
So an RCI too is to be used sparingly with the respect and caution that it deserves, right from start to finish, which means only using it when absolutely necessary and then heeding its findings and implementing its recommendations to the tee with the greatest of respect.
“Imagine Power To The People” John Lennon.
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Clap…! Clap…! Clap……….!!!!!
Setting up Royal Commission..! Well done…!!!!
Afetr 1 week, 2 weeks, 3 ……????
“No foul play? Sudden death…??”
Ok.
Next….!!!!
(Any other predictions….!!!!!!)
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We want a full Royal Commission of Inquiry into the causes of and culprits for TBH’s death. Other than that, don’t waste time and the taxpayers’ money. Najib, your “PEOPLE FIRST” is meaningless and noises only.
We also want a crystal clear and explicit answer to “Who initiated and instructed to start a campaign of intimidation and harassment against Pakatan which set off a chain of events that ultimately led to TBH’s death”?
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The death of Teh Beng Hock has transformed PKR into a truely multi-racial party judging from the composition of Malaysians attending its talks. If Umno failed to reform and Najib failed to reform the Police, the MACC, and the Judiciary, the hope for a 2 party system to emerge in Malaysia politic might die prematuturely. As BN will suffered total defeat in facing the multi-racial Pakatan Rakyat. This is a worrying trend, as Pakatan will end up as the sole winner with BN totally paralysed.
Najib should emulate Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono in his effort of reforming the politic of Indonesia. Despite his background as a military strongman, Indonesians have given him a landslip supports mainly due to his commitment to real reform of Indonesia politic.
Failing to do so, Najib will end up as the last PM of Umno.
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I hope we can have a RCI in 2013 to count the sins of BN.
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Only a RCI to look into MACC’s investigative procedures & a lowly magistrate to head an inquest??? Why set up two commissions to investigate one event? This is short-changing & conning the people at the same time!
What should have been is a single no-holds-barred RCI to investigate into how & why TBH died!
But then, that would be digging their own graves, wouldn’t it? What more can the people expect from a Govt that short-changes most of the people all the time? So this is the best that they would come up with, come rain or shine! CIAO!
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I and most Malaysians don’t understand this stupid Cabinet or PM. Why a simple inquest on Teoh Beng Hock’s death and a BIG Royal Commission of Inquiry on MACC interrogation methods. To the public and masses like me, I place Teoh Beng Hock’s untimely death as of paramount importance and priority! The MACC’s methods and bulls*** are secondary and can be handled together in a RCI. A Royal Commission of Inquiry should be held on Teoh Beng Hock’s death and MACC methods included.
Why separate??? Again, it is just the same old big bull s*** and nonsense by UMNO, BN and the PM to play down public anger.
As we all know, a simple inquest will be handled by the courts as a coroner’s inquiry… and nobody except UMNO and BN lackeys has any confidence in the judiciary. …
We want a RCI on Teoh Beng Hock’s death, not an inquest.
Is the stupid cabinet and PM telling us that MACC methods are more important than Teoh Beng Hock’s death. The PM’s stupid plege to help the deceased’s family is again pure hype and bulls***!
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Again, this 2 separate inquest and RCI clearly demonstrates that UMNO/BN government is really scared of revealing more truths about Teoh Beng Hock’s death like opening a closet full of worms.
Why so scared to have an independent RCI on TBH’s death??? Are people up there so scared to reveal another Lingam correct correct correct or kena korek korek korek??? A RCI is a bit more independent …
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All of you don’t be to naive. What RCI?…
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Sorry to digress and be picky about one’s own errors, but I should have written “a or the RCI” instead of “an RCI” in my posting above.
“Imagine Power To The People” John Lennon.
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THE ONLY TRUTH CAN BE FOUND ONLY STRAIGHT FROM TEOH BENG HOCK HIMSELF BUT HE ALREADY GONE. MAY I SUGGEST [TO HIS FAMILY MEMBERS] TO CONSULT NEW LIFE POST OR MUNSANG POH PRESS REPORTERS TO ENGAGE A VERY EXPERIENCE CLAIRVOYANCE TO COMMUNICATE WITH BENG HOCK SPIRIT TO LISTEN FROM HIS SIDE OF STATEMENT. OF COARSE THIS STATEMENT CAN’T BE USE FOR ANY RULE OF COURT BUT AT LEAST WE WILL BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT REALLY TRANSPIRED AT THE 14TH FLOOR WISMA MASALAM .FORGIVE ME IF I HAVE OFFEND ANYONE ESPECIALLY BENG HOCK LOVED ONES BUT I REALLY CANT THINK OF ANY WAY THAT CAN PROVIDE JUSTICE TO TEOH BENG HOCK’S SOUL. THE PEOPLE OF GERMANY ONCE TOLD THEIR GOVERNMENT “WE DON’T MIND IF YOU DO AWAY OR CONTROL OUR FREEDOM BUT WE WILL STRIKE IF YOU DO ANY JUCTICE FOR US” YES,JUSTICE IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN FREEDOM ACCORDING TO POLLS SURVEY IN SEVERAL DEVELOPED COUNTRIES. THATS WHY SINGAPORE GOVERNMENT UNDERSTAND VIEW THIS REMARKS VERY SERIOUSLY. I HOPE BN GOVERNMENT TAKE NOTE PLEASE DO THE RIGHT THING, ITS FOR YOUR OWN VERY SURVIVAL IN THE NEXT GE.TAKE CARE.
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