What sort of development model is this?

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It is becoming increasingly difficult for the fisherfolk of Tanjung Tokong to go out fishing, thanks to the 760-acre land reclamation and property development project off Tanjung Tokong and the 130-acre reclamation project along Gurney Drive for another property development project and an eight-lane highway, with Gurney Wharf thrown in.

So, much of our fish has to be imported – and this in a state that is almost surrounded by the sea.

Please ‘like’ the Tanjung Tokong fisherfolk’s Facebook page.

And this is what’s left of the Runnymede property, the area where Stamford Raffles once lived:

Photograph: George Town Heritage Action
Photograph: George Town Heritage Action

The photo below is from a Teluk Bahang hill-top, taken from a Star report:

Teluk Bahang hill-top - Photograph: The Star
Teluk Bahang hill-top – Photograph: The Star

And what’s happening to the trees here along Lebuhraya Thean Teik (near the Caltex and MacDonald’s, parallel to the police quarters)?

Botak trees - Photograph: A concerned resident of Paya Terubong
Botak trees – Photograph: A concerned resident of Paya Terubong

The photo below shows a hill-slope near Jalan Chan Siew Teong in Tanjung Bungah, where almost half the road appears to have given way. What do you think is the gradient of that slope? I thought they are not supposed to mess with slopes with a gradient of more than 25 degrees?

A hill-slope road under construction appears to have partially collapsed - Photograph: A concerned Tanjung Bungah resident
A hill-slope road under construction appears to have partially collapsed – Photograph: A concerned Tanjung Bungah resident

And check out this botak hill on the mainland, somewhere not far from Juru. What’s going on there?

A botak hill near Juru
A botak hill near Juru

I am just showcasing a smattering of what is happening with our natural and built heritage. (I haven’t included in this post the original Botak Hill, the Paya Terubong hill-cutting, all the other hill-clearings you can see and the impending massive land reclamation off southern Penang Island.)

As you can see, what is happening affects the land, the sea, the hills. It is not as if the population of Penang is increasing rapidly and there is a great demand for more land to be cleared. So what is driving all this?

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I am highlighting what’s going on in Penang because this is where I am, but you can see the same thing happening in many other parts of Malaysia, including the BN-ruled states.

Perhaps there is a philosophical or metaphysical angle to all this. Where do we see ourselves in the larger scheme of things? Are we called to subjugate Nature or live in harmony with it? Have we lost our balance?

This is not being anti-development. The question is, what sort of development do we want? And development for whom? Who profits financially and who bears the social and environmental costs?

Is the solution political change or does the change first begin with how we view ‘development’ and what kind of development model we want? 

Do we want a development model that is in harmony with the environment and tries to keep the ecological balance or do we want a model that allows corporations and others to trample all over it?

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jeff
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Is fishing environmental friendly? over 70% of the world’s fish species are either fully exploited or depleted. even the cockles are depleted and smaller in size because of over-harvesting of cockles.

David Loman
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David Loman

The Disastrous Impact Of Overfishing In The South China Sea
http://www.valuewalk.com/2015/11/disastrous-impact-overfishing-south-china-sea/

Lim Siang Yee
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Lim Siang Yee

Nelayan will become penternak ikan.
That is how the world and human kind evolve with time.

chliew
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chliew

Yes very true but sad. Over population, increase in life-span and over consumption destroy the world. Plant 1-2 trees person can save the world. Western culture and life-style the biggest culprit.

Ong Eu Soon
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chliew
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chliew
There are many reasons and requirements house sell or dont sell. The market forces proven to us that the nation’s economy structure is not suitable to support everyone or cannot be equal to everyone. Same or sama sama everywhere in the world, not just happening in Penang or Malaysia. There will always be unhappy and unfulfilled citizens. If we say price of house increase to the point of uncomfortable level then what about food, transportation and etc.. These are also essentials for life and living to happen. Everything increase and it is not just because of housing developer or distributor… Read more »
tunglang
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tunglang
Push for affordable housing http://www.thestar.com.my/business/business-news/2016/09/17/push-for-affordable-housing/ According to Rehda’s Property Industry Survey, a total of 1,022 units of low-cost units with a built-up area of 650 sq ft priced between RM35,000 and RM42,000 were launched in the first half of this year. None of them were sold. A year ago, 650 units were launched, of which 450 units were sold. “People don’t live in low-cost homes because the don’t want to be associated with them. If they can afford it, they would prefer to purchase something bigger,” he says. My Questions: Why not take up of low cost units launched this… Read more »
Helen Ashkin
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…..love it …when the people on the receiving end ask that question of those who plan and study urban development! <3 Go Penangites …get inlvoved in your state's development!

tunglang
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tunglang
Thanks for the encouragement, Helen. Some of us Penangites have seen the unpalatable since 308 (March, 2008 Election Euphoria ala DAP). Instead of the Rainbow UBAH as promised for the better, we witness one after another unbelievable development by CAT, headed by Niao Kong (male arrogant cat entity) that can turn the stomach upside down. Swap deals, unpalatable as they are for selling state lands in exchange for unchecked development, are justified in the perennial blame game against the Feds for pittance of development fund, so to speak for swap deals. In the course of such deals, environmental damages &… Read more »
zoro
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zoro
Willing selling and buyers even in swap land. If state has land but no money, the land will be sitting there. It is like tun lang has a lot of money in normal bank account earning almost zero interest. So who benefit with tun Lang’s money in the bank? It is the bank. So why voters like tun lang want to vote a Gomen doing nothing when they have physical assets and no money? Anyway tun lang can be rich but not generous to lent to Gomen. But not all are investors. There are a few who dares win. They… Read more »
zoro
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zoro

No one is above law and this includes pg Gomen. Why not bark over and over again? Pg forum and other Ngos can go and Sue pg Gomen like setting letter to UNESCO. Tun lang contributes here and can contributes to court case against pg Gomen or developers. Tun lang can even take the witness stand. If no action, means tun lang is little .. and tries to roar.

chliew
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chliew
Anil, If you have a place to stay please wish that others have the same. Population increase so does building of new homes. It is a need not a luxury or unnecessary. Land developers are not stupid, if there are no needs they would not build. Dont sit at a nice comfortable place then write negative or political comments about Govt, new buildings and botak hills. Go out and start encouraging and promoting for every PG people to plant trees and recycle. If you are genuine go do the job of planting trees, dont just talk (write), complain and compare.… Read more »
tunglang
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tunglang
Penangites find it tough to own a house https://sg.news.yahoo.com/penangites-tough-own-house-072206183.html GEORGE TOWN: For some time now, housing has been the bane of Penangites. They find houses in the state getting more expensive to purchase or rent, while affordable housing projects are hard to come by. To purchase one, potential buyers need to wait in line and to follow the criteria set by the state government. The criteria are that the potential purchaser must be a registered voter in Penang, has resided in Penang for at least five years from the date of application, holds a bachelor’s degree or diploma, has a… Read more »
Eric Lim
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Eric Lim

This Penangite Would Rather Sell Chicken Rice In Singapore Than Be An Engineer In Malaysia
http://says.com/my/news/it-pays-to-work-as-odd-job-workers-in-singapore-than-in-

A 27-year-old Malaysian engineer from Penang, spoke about how he is moving to Singapore to start selling chicken rice, as the move has the potential to increase his monthly income (and possibly increase his affordability for a new condo in Penang?)

gk ong
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gk ong

Very proactive indeed, instead of lamenting cannot afford. He will likely settle down in Singapore with a HDB flat, or buying a condo in JB Iskandar with his Singapore dollar.

David Loman
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David Loman

Many Penangites are trying their luck investing in Mcoin?
http://www.thesundaily.my/news/1974531

Lim Siang Yee
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Lim Siang Yee

Virtual or digital currency is a means for money laundering.

David Loman
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David Loman

Perhaps this can be an inspiration for Malaysians hawkers in Singapore, where one can sell good hawker recipe for S$2 million:
http://www.thestar.com.my/news/regional/2016/09/19/michelinstarred-soya-sauce-chicken-stall-to-sell-recipe-for-rm6dot1mil/

Penang Masterchef hawkers could possibly sell their recipe if the price is right?

Malaysian First
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Malaysian First
For retiring Island Penangites, recommend you to move to Sungai Petani. You can come to visit your families or friends on the island via the KTM electric train departing every hour punctuality. If the ferry service can be ad predictable and efficient, working people can daily shuttle by train to work in the island. No need cars as KTM fare very affordable and can take free Rapid if you happen to work in heritage area. Seeing is believing. S Petani a nice cozy (not costly) township with food quality that rival Penang at cheaper menu prices. If not, continue to… Read more »
zoro
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zoro

too many interchanges. you have to be 10 min early to catch train to bw. 10 min early to catch ferry and 10 to catch bus. so 1/2 hour waste. how about travelling time and caught in jam. if ferry dont wait your boss will not wait then one gets fried sotong. too many dependencies. that is where the tunnel helps. sp express bus straight to komtar or sia boey

zoro
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zoro

willing seller and buyer. what can you do? tell and we know those barking but no solution.

chliew
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chliew

Tell me one thing that do not increase in price?

zoro
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zoro

Tun lang says wait, houses prices will drop. So listen to him. He is an old man and gone through slumps. he has no worries maybe he has many properties when he buys when property prices are down in his time.

tunglang
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tunglang

Price mechanism of properties is an up & down swing according to market sentiments without surrealism.
When developers can increase prices of houses, even to the point of surrealism, DO EXPECT the prices to come down some days.
It is no exception to the Law of Gravity. What goes up must come down (eventually).

zoro
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zoro

You have been peeping at times square condons for two years and no change in no of house lights. Has the price been dropping to basement value?

gk ong
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gk ong

Times Square is slowly but surely becoming choice airBnB destination for those travelers to save costs.

XiaoBee
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XiaoBee

Rehda will tell you construction materials and wages have gone up, so do not expect prices of houses to go down.

gk ong
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gk ong

Price may stay the same but you may get inferior ingredients. Also check the volume or weight as they could have been reduced although no change in price. Small packet milk used to be 250ml, now only 200ml although price no change. Also roti canai has shrunk in diameter and thickness, although price no change.

tunglang
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tunglang
INTERVENE AND BRING DOWN HOUSE PRICES, HBA TELLS GOVT http://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/nation/2016/09/12/intervene-and-bring-down-house-prices-hba-tells-govt/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+FreeMalaysiaToday+%28FMT+News%29 National House Buyers’ Association (HBA) Secretary-General Chang Kim Loong says the government must put a stop to developers calling the shots and dictating prices. PETALING JAYA: If the government can control the prices of rice, sugar, cooking oil and other daily essentials, it should also be able to control prices of houses. In stating so, National House Buyers’ Association (HBA) Secretary-General Chang Kim Loong pointed out that as it stands, the prices of raw materials such as cement, sand and steel were regulated by the government. The fees of architects,… Read more »
zoro
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zoro

tun lang why no barking at such scheme. prices more clearing. maybe in belum?

tunglang
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tunglang

Speaking incoherence!!! What a waste of reading space!

zoro
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zoro

watch out what you speak as you cannot refute the facts. another snake oil and pasar mlm trader.

Eric
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Eric
Property developers will definitely lend to housebuyers at at least 12% for secured loans or 18% for unsecured loans, because they would need to borrow money from banks. TA Research believes the proposal was not an effective initiative to improve home ownership among low to middle income groups. TA Analysts Thiam Chiann Wen said: “Based on our analysis, a buyer will need to pay 138 per cent more in monthly installments if he or she takes up a developer’s 35-year loan that offers 100 per cent financing at 12 per cent interest rate, compared to conventional banks’ 35-year loan at… Read more »
ZS Heng
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ZS Heng

iProperty.com’s Home & Property Fair heads up north to Queensbay Mall, Penang from September 29th – October 3rd 2016. Highlights of the five day event include new and upcoming developments by prominent developers across the region.
expo.iproperty.com

Samad AH
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Samad AH

Many sour grapes around when cannot afford to buy.

tunglang
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tunglang

Do you know majority of Malaysians cannot what properties are built & sold?
This is the reality of the situation.
You may be rich, but pls have human empathy for others.
Note: Housing is a social need, not so much or solely a speculative commodity or even worst, a cartel priced product.

zoro
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zoro

Rich can do more than showing empathy. Like bill gates show action not just barking.

Banglo cheap
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Banglo cheap

Congrats penang voters. You get what you wished for. Oh you didn’t wish for this? Tough luck then. I’m sure you’ll vote DAP again then whine about it all over again. Padan muka

zoro
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zoro

no they will vote gilakan and bn back in power. talk much sent then to kamunting resort enjoy kopi kau kau.

LGE tak boleh
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LGE tak boleh

Property speculators partly to be blamed for this.
i) Trees have to give way to development projects;
ii) Drive up property prices to an affordable level; and
iii) Create ghost condo blocks when construction of condo completed
iv) Over-speculation and overheating in the property sector may cause financial crisis as speculators are likely to be highly geared.

Speculators, please think of our environment and future generations

zoro
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zoro

penang only? penang world city? your relatives in china are buying everywhere. sydney and melbourne propertie double in few years as chinese are paying in CASH.

tunglang
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tunglang

I still saw Times Square condos less than half the number lit at night as I passed by Jalan Gurdwara in Rapid Penang.
This was exactly 2 years ago.
Wondering how those speculators could manage without any turnaround.

zoro
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zoro

If they lose money, did they ask you, rakyat or pg Gomen for money? If they make money, they paid tax to bn federal Gomen and hopefully trickle down to tun lang and pg lang

zoro
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zoro

Prices drop and at basement value or snake oil and pasar mlm trader tactics??

zoro
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zoro

No buyers no sellers. You want to zoology or archeology in uni? Friend was send to study zoology in local uni which is none of his choice.

David Loman
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David Loman

Meanwhile, it is good to benchmark how Singapore is developing its new Tengah HDB Township:

The 700ha town will be bordered by a forest fringe, include a 5km forest corridor and a 20ha Central Park and feature community farmways with gardens, farms and more. There will also be a car-free town centre set in a park with traffic running underneath instead. And all roads in Tengah will have walking and biking paths on both sides.

http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/housing/tengah-the-first-hdb-town-since-punggol-to-have-forest-fringe-car-free-town-centre

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NXXFS2yHcIk

Mary
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Mary

So much to learn from Singapore.

gk ong
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gk ong

90% of Singaporeans live in HDB, paid with their CPF. HDB is a success story that most Malaysian politicians dare not acknowledge.

glissantia
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glissantia
Some people will get “sensitive” if you compare us to Singapore. Beginning with a “senior statesman” now claiming to be in the opposition. On a more serious note, this excellent article covers many aspects of “development”, as it should. This is just one state that we know of. Don’t imagine it is not worse elsewhere. Greed is limitless. In Brazil, they have managed to destroy so much of the world’s largest forest that the atmospheric currents of moisture above it – needed for the wet season, glaciers, etc. – are almost gone. As to the question “what model of development”,… Read more »
tunglang
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tunglang
With people like you, there is no hope on earth. No courage but to flow with the flow of greed & excesses. Using money to corrupt the world from politicians, religious figures to anything just to trample others in the name of self-interest. Hope in a moment of silence, you can reflect indoor soul what you have done for humankind other than to flow with the money>greed>power insanity. I am not talking of your reality which sucks, but to help you reflect the present state of society. No need to compare with or covert other nations but to have a… Read more »
tunglang
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tunglang

Reality of comment may hurt some who may be in denial of deeper consequences of “cepat kaya” whether in politics or business.
We are all here temporarily. Not for “cepat kaya”.

tunglang
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tunglang

You can’t seem to read what’s the implication of Lee Shien Loong fainting after he wished 3 things from God in public.
In the spiritual context, there must be something foreboding or a caution to this leader.
I won’t judge what he has done, but I am sure the Law of Karma is consistent regardless of who.

zoro
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zoro

You are behind time. Read his father’s singland don’t depend on tun lang and one man show. Karma for a person living up to 91 years. Your kama much better? over a century?

tunglang
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tunglang

Like father like son?
NOPE!

zoro
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zoro

Instead of repeating the grouses over and over, we never hear the solution. Tun lang cannot tell us. Can’t you? What is the solution then?

tunglang
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tunglang

You are a confirmed Troll…
Worst…, you spew incoherence just to satisfy your empty brain by parroting anything just for a spin.]
My advice: don’t waste reading space.

zoro
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zoro

What out what you speak. No facts but just barking to refute and giving rubbish.

Ijoe
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Penang is all about condos n developers but can’t b sustained without focusing on income fr industry. Worse is dey r killing some

Ijoe
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Penang is all about condos n developers but can’t b sustained without focusing on income fr industry. Worse is dey r killing some

Vivica 118
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Vivica 118

All those words here count for nothing if the commentators reluctant to show up at next Green Clean official event yo voice out their concerns.

A proactive measure is to get the state government to plant more trees right next to every new concrete development created. Can get locals to adopt the trees by putting eforts to care for them if not to physically plant them.

I am sure those got bin chui Penangites dont mind sponsoring giant tualang (not tunglang typo so dont be mistaken) trees species from our rainforest national parks.

tunglang
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tunglang

Pls plant your first tree(?) & post it here with selfie. Can or not???
Cakap tanpa buat sendiri tak kan mask åkål orang lain!

tunglang
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tunglang

Have you been to our Malaysian rainforest to truly appreciate Nature’s wonders & understand sustainable living of the Orang Asli?
Talking green here, green there is just that – without true x-perience of what Nature is all about & its potentials.
If you just read about them in the internet, I suggest you go to our National Park (Teluk Bahang) for a start.
Go out & x-perience Nature & you may write better comments.

zoro
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zoro

Anil, tun lang has rights and freedom of speech but others are banned? Tun lang talk so much if that place then better for him to stay put there. He can insult others but we can’t. I just saying since he speaks so great another the place, then he find peace there rather we hear grumbling and negative ions . So green that he can built tree top house.

Mary
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Mary

tunlang is a cyber bully, he likes to attack other readers who do not share his view.

zoro
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zoro

He is just another old man grumbles. By right we should look up to him for his vast experience and wisdom, instead he throw tandams around. Very disappointed.

glissantia
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glissantia

I think one of the issues is a poor understanding of English. Look at the response to my comment above.

tunglang
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tunglang

Anil, is it OK for a troll to ‘piggy back’ on others’ comments?
Trolling for no other purpose than to criticise & create incoherent noises wasting reading spaces?
You decide.

zoro
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zoro

Targets for global warming has been decided in Paris last year. You are against what is agreed? Then go and tell your relatives in China to live like days of Mao tse tung. Chinaman must use bicycles but tun lang and Yankees can use 4w drives and cars. Go and tell bn federal Gomen who signed the agreement on Penang Lang’s behalf if Malaysia and not pg breaks the agreement.

zoro
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zoro

Anil, you are the owner here and please remove the “reply” if you do not want further replies. If you do not remove then we are not trolls. Tun lang does not understand English. It is too difficult for him. There is a “report comment” he does not understand or does not know how to use it?

tunglang
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tunglang
Anil, thank you. Anyway, I will not report any comment as I am not like some kia su bent on killing of free speech against CAT, DAP or Lim Guan Eng. But I allow a particular type of comment to fester until it will eventually show its intention as to who is the troll. Also, Anil. Is it mandatory for every single comment to give a suggestion / solution, even if it is a mere expression of exasperation e.g. the Botak Hill fiasco? Some are technical in nature beyond our layman sans expertise. Like it or not, I will still… Read more »
tunglang
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tunglang

Cheers Kopi-O kau kau to Anil!
Clarification for all including the kia su, worshipping supporters & knee jerks.

zoro
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zoro

When people disagree you call them trolls as if you have the only rights to speak and no democratic rights for others to comment back. You can show your feeling but since you make the statements, you mean you want others to accept them blindly? If there are problems which everyone us aware and need not to be like Polly patriot to repeat, we would like to hear practical solutions. Like trams, is one solution but readers do not think trams are ideal. Damien talk about storm braining but never from tun lang.

tunglang
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tunglang

Tualang Tree species are among the tallest trees in the world, and also one of the most prominent trees in the tropical rainforests.
It is suitable for parks, forest reserves & farmlands where bee honey cultivation is pursued.
NOT a good idea to plant such humongous trees in urban settings with their huge outspreading above ground trunk-root extensions.
(Go see one of these trees in Pg Botanic Gardens @ narrow entrance to Lily Pond).

tunglang
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tunglang
What sort of development model is this? A Makeover of Penang for the rich & famous, a slow death kneel for those fishing in the way of privatised coastal seas. Never mind that the (all too apparent) dangers are there, but Money to be Made is 1st Commandment of Cosmopolitan Penang Frenzied. Greener & Cleaner Penang, My Foot! A Bluff without blinking of CAT’s Eyes. Short lived for the 10+ trees along Jalan Thean Teik. Hills with no 9-lives to hope for. Insidious development in George Town: Drives away Penangites from the core of George Town in the name of… Read more »
zoro
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zoro

How many gen y is looking after kopi tiams as boss? Why kopi tiams owners employ Burmese, indon and Burmese workers with permit issued by gilakan minister in bn gomen? You expect Don’s and grandsons to eat in kopi tiams of go big Macs and finger licking good.

Goay Weng Leng
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Goay Weng Leng

We are moving fast towards the Hongkong Model, where only one crop of greenery is left. But it will be climate calamity basing on the intense hot temperature of Malaysia as compared to that of Hongkong’s placement on semi-temperate latitude. But do they cares?

tunglang
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tunglang

The disappearing trees along Lebuhraya Thean Teak :
First they brought in the huge concrete pipes.
Then they cut all the branches till what’s left of the main tree trunks.
Then they barricaded the road sides.
Which took more than a week or two.
And finally, one by one (of more than 10 trees) they terminated the lives of these once cooling trees from the surface of Farlim.

Greener & Cleaner Penang?
Nyiamak!!!

zoro
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zoro

Complain? Your solution then? No solution and make noise??

Gwynn Jenkins
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oh boy these images speak of something way out of control here

tunglang
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tunglang

Yeah, absolute madness.
But the CAT / Niao Kong minion’s caveat: All comments must come with suggestions! Esp. for those who speaks against CAT.
Insidious Vibes, isn’t it?
Not even for people’s freedom of expression & exasperation & disdain!

zoro
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zoro

free to speak is there. speaker’s corner. see if you can convince or they think TR or kemunting resort is more suitable for you.

tunglang
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tunglang

So, your Niao Kong controls Kamunting?
What future is there for freedom of speech if ever DAP or Deity march to Putrajaya?

zoro
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zoro

if you are so good suggest your models to share. everyone can say how bad but what can you can do better? i am 110% sure you will do the same or worst.

zoro
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zoro

bn with its top guns know as father of development. of course after botak hairs grow back. look at petaling jaya penang town in selangor.

Sptay
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Sptay

….how can we guarantee the Development lobby does not influence the government……even if we can dump the DAP?…

tunglang
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tunglang
How? Change the rules of Malaysian General Election where corporations (big + small) are forbidden to donate any sum of money to any political party. Change the rules of political donations by any entity (corporates, societies or individuals) towards buildings (of party HQs), media productions, sponsorship of road shows or dinners, & billboards. Change all these & there will be no Kam Cheng or I Owe You. Development is mostly undertaken by corporations via tenders, private initiatives & joint ventures. Without the above ‘political-corporate tango’, there is a slim chance of influence or arm-twisting (esp. in swap deals where the… Read more »
zoro
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zoro

Include anil and penang forum and Ngos???

tunglang
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tunglang
Anilnetto.com, NGOs & concerned Penangites are not profiteering businesses entities, some of which are bent on doing damages via insane development. Do differentiate those who care for sustainable development (read development, not no development, paham kah???) for a better future for all. The Difference: There are no swap deals, no behind doors nego, no arm twisting. It’s all in the open of public domain. Telling the state gomen what is going wrong is absolute rights of the people & organisations. No money to be made unlike corporations. People votes for a purpose, for a reason one of which is UBAH… Read more »
zoro
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zoro

bn macc will go after political parties who make financial gains. you no know registrar of society and acts party has to follow? how can kopi kau. kau go and sell properties? you are not only person has right. the state has to consider the RIGHTS of MILLIONS. in the end majority out vote you. still not happy leave penang and stay in tree top in Belun. you can say No no no. but no solutions.

tunglang
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tunglang

Pls improve your English!

zoro
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zoro

Talk soon much about belum valley, you better to be there and font come back to this hotspot place.

zoro
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zoro

Watch out what you speak.

chliew
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chliew

What and how you consider a land development as sustainable development?

tunglang
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tunglang

chliew, you have not been following the many articles before this one in anilnetto.com.
Take your time to read them if you are new here.
One key phrase: a balance of development + environment + socio-cultural-economic.
Development for a section of the people is no development but a recipe for implosion of society
such as multi-racial, multi-cultural Penang. No matter how popular the political party is at the helm.

zoro
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zoro

Another troll. All abstract and general words. How? How you do it? Don’t know how? Just another snake oil and pasar mlm trader.