Tunnel-highways: CAP statement and CM’s reply

Tunnel-highways: CAP statement and CM’s reply

Below is the statement by the Consumers Association of Penang opposing the highways-tunnel mega project followed by Chief Minister Lim Guan Eng’s response.

The CAP statement:

Abort tunnel vision

CAP would like to reiterate most emphatically its opposition to the latest mega-project proposed by the Penang state government to resolve the state’s traffic problem. The project comprises a 6.5km undersea tunnel from Gurney Drive to Bagan Ajam in Butterworth, a 4.2km Pesiaran Gurney-Tun Dr Lim Chong Eu Expressway bypass, a 4.6km Tun Dr Lim Chong Eu Expressway-Bandar Baru Air Itam bypass, and a four-lane 12km road linking Tanjung Bungah with Teluk Bahang.

In justifying the construction of the roads, the argument that has been advanced is that they will expand the existing network of roads. By dispersing the traffic, they will thereby, it is argued, relieve the pressure on the existing roads and thus open up more space for public transport and pedestrian walkways.

The argument is an attractive one, but unfortunately it is misconceived. Countless studies have proved conclusively that building more roads (or even widening existing roads) is only a short-term solution as the new roads will invariably attract more traffic and soon the roads will be congested again. In the case of Penang, with 100,000 new vehicles hitting the roads every year, the culmination of such a process will be sooner than anyone can anticipate.

As for the undersea tunnel, it has been suggested that it will further ease the trans-channel traffic. But this blithely ignores the fact that this will result in more motorized traffic on the island and create more congestion on the island’s roads. The new roads can only afford temporary relief to this situation. What is often overlooked is that the island too has a limited carrying capacity at any given time and no consideration is given to this fact.

Moreover, if the concern is to alleviate the cross-channel traffic, the fact is that the second Penang Bridge is not even operational yet. Given that its impact on traffic is yet to be seen, one wonders why the Chief Minister is in such haste to push through the construction of an undersea tunnel which is beset with risks and adverse effects.

The terms under which the project has been agreed to are also controversial. Apart from receiving a 30 year concession period, the developers will also benefit from 110 acres of reclaimed land as payment. This land will appreciate tremendously in value in the coming years. Penangites will not benefit from this added value but the developers will, many times over their initial cost of construction.

But perhaps the Chief Minister is right after all to conclude that a third road link will be necessary. After all, who should know better the impact of his own transport policies than the Chief Minister himself? In view of the fact that the whole thrust of his policies is directed to prioritizing private motorized transport over public transport, it won’t be long before congestion begins to build up on the second bridge. In short, a third road link will be necessary because the Chief Minister is intent on pursuing policies which will create the very gridlock requiring relief.

There are also other disturbing features about this package of projects. The payoff for the consortium undertaking the project is 110 acres of reclaimed land. By agreeing to this, the Penang government has given no consideration to the consequences of further land reclamation along Penang’s coast even though the adverse consequences of earlier reclamation projects have clearly blighted the island’s coastline. Such a reckless indifference to the environment is shocking, to say the least.

Questions have also been raised about the financial viability of those undertaking the construction. However, more important is the safety of such tunnels. The 1996 Chunnel fire shows the limits of human technical ingenuity and engineering skill. The Chunnel – the underwater tunnel beneath the English Channel which links England and France – was regarded as the eighth wonder of the world and had been exhaustively tested for safety, including extensive modelling and full-scale fire tests, before it was opened up to traffic. Yet when the fire broke out, experts were hard put to explain how the fire occurred. In Malaysia, there was a reported vehicle fire occurring every month, for 8 consecutive months in 2012. Such an incident could turn into a national disaster if it happened in the proposed undersea tunnel. In addition to inherent risk, given the absence of a well-developed culture of safety in our society, is it not a grave risk to embark on such a project? Moreover, questions have also been raised as to the expertise and experience of those undertaking the project in building undersea tunnels. While they may well have undoubted expertise and skills in other types of construction, the real question is their expertise in the specific field of undersea tunnels.

While we are mindful of recent statements that the state government is intent on going ahead with the project, we strongly urge them to reconsider the whole issue. Such a reconsideration must involve a rethinking of the whole basis of the current transport policy which privileges the owners of private motor vehicles at the expense of public transport commuters. All talk of a “Penang Paradigm” is meaningless without this paradigm shift.

Media Statement – 18 March 2013

The Chief Minister’s response:

Open Letter By Penang Chief Minister Lim Guan Eng To Consumers Association of Penang(CAP) and other aligned organizations who oppose the Penang traffic decongestion projects of 3 highways and one under sea-bed tunnel.

21 March 2013.
Encik S.M. Mohamad Idris,
Chairman Of CAP.

Dear Sir,

We refer to your recent statement opposing the Penang state government’s traffic decongestion projects of 3 highways and one under sea-bed tunnel comprising a 7 km undersea tunnel from Gurney Drive to Bagan Ajam in Butterworth, a 4.2km Pesiaran Gurney-Tun Dr Lim Chong Eu Expressway bypass, a 4.6km Tun Dr Lim Chong Eu Expressway-Bandar Baru Air Itam bypass, and a four-lane 12km road linking Tanjung Bungah with Teluk Bahang.

The state government has openly engaged with both the public and civil society since these projects were first mooted in 2011 and throughout the period of open competitive tender process until it was awarded this year. Whilst we welcome public views, such inputs and even criticisms from our detractors must always be based on objective analysis and facts, not subjective outbursts and sentiments. As the old adage goes, opinion is free but facts are sacred.

The Penang state government has taken the unprecedented move of consulting with the various NGOs and the public through dialogues and even holding town hall meetings in the full glare of the mass media. The process itself is historic for it has never been done in Malaysia.

Unfortunately you have never attended a single one of such dialogues or meetings. For this reason, we fail to see how you can oppose these proposed projects objectively and factually without the benefit of hearing our side. We would therefore like to take this opportunity to once again extend a personal invitation to you to a meeting where we can address the concerns you have expressed. Our doors are always open to you.

However should you refuse to accept our invitation, let us state why your criticisms of these proposed traffic decongestion projects were made subjectively out of mere sentiments.

One, we agree that public transport is the most effective mechanism to realize the objective of moving people and not moving vehicles. But why has CAP failed to acknowledge the strenuous efforts made by the Penang state government to make public transport the mode of choice for 1.6 million Penangites?

Whilst the state government would prefer to revive our tram system compatible with George Town status as a UNESCO World Heritage city, we had decided to go along with the Federal government’s promise for a monorail made in 2007. Regrettably, the Federal government has decided to play partisan politics at the expense of the public by stubbornly refusing to fulfil their promise of a monorail.

We then decided to think outside the box by offering free bus rides in the heritage enclave of George Town followed by a Park & Ride system to and fro from Seberang Jaya to Bayan Lepas and Balik Pulau at a cost of nearly RM3 million yearly. When this was well-received by the public we wanted to extend free bus services during peak hours throughout the state by paying Rapid Penang RM10 million yearly.

This RM10 million offer was rejected by the Federal government without any reason given. Similarly our proposal for Majlis Perbandaran Pulau Pinang or MPPP to set up our own bus companies to provide public transport was rejected by the Federal government. At no point did CAP support the state government’s efforts nor questioned the Federal government for not accepting the money payment made by the state government to provide free bus services.

Clearly, the Federal government intends to choke Penang to death with traffic congestion. Due to Penang’s success as the most liveable city in Malaysia, the number of tourists pouring to Penang has surged dramatically. The usage at the Penang Bridge is on average nearly 80,000 vehicles daily, which can increase to 108,000 vehicles daily during public festivities.

As a responsible people-centric government, we refuse to do nothing, play the blame on the Federal government and wait to be choked to death by traffic congestion. We are left with no choice but to build highways to alleviate the traffic congestion at the most critical areas such as Paya Terubong, Tanjung Bungah and the inner George Town city area. To disperse traffic and avoid creating bottlenecks brought about by cars seeking to enter or leave Penang at the 2 bridges, there is a need for a third link across Seberang Perai Utara(SPU).

The state government can not build a bridge across the mainland because Federal government approval is required. However, no such approval is necessary for an under sea bed tunnel.

Further there is a question of equity as it is only fair that the residents of SPU are not denied a third link, when residents in Seberang Perai Tengah and Seberang Perai Selatan were given the 2 bridges. Having a third link would also ensure balanced development for SPU to ensure that they are not left out of economic growth.

The state government is equally concerned about the impact both on the environment and the livelihood of fishermen as we are committed to making Penang a green state. Such concerns have been fully addressed by requiring that a full Detailed Environment Impact Assessment(DEIA) be complied with. Should the necessary sanction not be obtained from such a DEIA report, then the projects will simply not proceed. Unlike other Federal government projects, the consultant preparing the DEIA will be appointed by the state government and not the contractor.

The operations of Penang Port will also not be affected as the tunnel will be built safely below the sea-bed. Many experts have opined that in terms of environmental impact, a under sea-bed tunnel has less adverse impact than a bridge.

CAP must bear in mind that the tender was awarded by an open competitive process that commenced in 2011. From an estimated cost of RM8 billion the magic of open competitive tender reduced it to RM6.3 billion. Contrary to wild allegations by BN, the paid up capital of the four companies that won the tender as a consortium and will be signing on individually with the state government is RM4.5 billion and not RM2.

For CAP to claim that we should not engage in the land swap of 110 acres of reclaimed land in Tanjung Pinang to finance this RM6.3 billion project raises serious questions why CAP did not sternly criticize BN for selling the reclaimed land at give-away rates of RM1 per square foot in 1999? Let us restate again that the evaluation and recommendation of the winning tender bid was made by two committees headed by the Penang State Secretary Dato Farizan bin Darus and the Penang State Finanical Officer Dato Haji Mokhtar bin Mohd Jait without any involvement of the Chief Minister. The entire tender exercise was a transparent and accountable process.

The 30 year toll concession period was given only for the tunnel and not for the other 3 highway projects which will be toll free. This toll concession for the tunnel is unique and the first in Malaysia in that there is no traffic volume guarantee given to the companies.

The state government agreed to a toll for only 30 years as we did not want to go to a state of war with the Federal government by not charging toll, as then the Federal government will have legal grounds to stop the tunnel project by claiming that we are deliberately sabotaging the toll collection for the 2nd Bridge. That is the reason why the state government has fixed the toll rate for the tunnel at the same rate as the 2nd Bridge.

Again if CAP is opposed to the 30 year concession by the Penang state government, why then did CAP not voice any objections when the toll concession for the 2nd Bridge is for an even longer period at 45 years?

For CAP to question the expertise and the technical ability of the companies concerned is again a subjective expression of mere sentiment as it blithely ignores the fact that Beijing Urban Construction Group and China Railway Construction Corporation Ltd (CRCC) are major construction companies that built the Beijing Olympic Stadium Bird Nest and most of China’s railroads, including the highest railroad to Tibet. Whilst no one guarantees that there will be no accidents, if that is the yardstick, are we going to stop building roads or aeroplanes just because there are accidents?

Even the Public Transport Masterplan(PTM) advocated the building of the under sea-bed tunnel with the proposed completion of the tunnel by 2025-2030 whereas the state government hopes to bring it forward by 2023-25. The 10-12 years period required to build the tunnel 3rd link is to satisfy all the feasibility and safety requirements including environmental protection.

Due to the length of the project’s completion of 10-12 years, planning and work has to start now. It is misleading for some parties to give the impression that work will start immediately and the tunnel will be completed in a few years time. Just as the 2nd Penang Bridge should have been built 10 years ago due to increased traffic usage, we must plan ahead not for ourselves but for our future generation.

We must not turn the next generation into a traffic jam generation to suffer what we have suffered due to lack of foresight and long-term planning. We may not benefit from these projects but our children and grandchildren will. That is our responsibility – to prepare the future for our young.

Thank you.

Yours faithfully,

LIM GUAN ENG
CHIEF MINISTER

As for me, I maintain that any solution that promotes dependency on private motor vehicles is unsustainable in the long-term.

28 COMMENTS

  1. My goodness. LGE hoodwinked you guys hook and sinker and you believe him? If LGE says he has the right to built under water tunnel, how in the world can a federal government has a legal right to claim against Penang for not charging toll.

    Sorry. This is a stupid legal argument trying to hoodwink people on toll acceptance. The fact is that The Penang privatization model is worse than the bn model. In BN model you recover by toll charges which LGE always claim as exhorbitant. In this Penang model not only LGE says he’s matching the exhorbitant toll, he’s giving scarce prime land to concessionaire. Why is this not piratisation? Best betul this PR piratisation model.

    You guys are ridiculous to believe in this nonsense explanation by LGE.

     
  2. Lim Guan Eng explain the exorbitant hike of cost from RM4billion to RM6.3billion for the mega road and tunnel project!

    The following is the excerpt from the speech of Lim Guan Eng at Penang Investment Seminar on September 13, 2011 at Rasa Sayang Hotel:

    I also wish to share with you some of the major infrastructure projects that we have planned for Penang.
    1. The Penang Third Link or the Penang – Butterworth Tunnel. This 6.5 km stretch will be a undersea subway tunnel linking Gurney Drive on Penang Island with Bagan Ajam in Seberang Perai North District. Estimated to cost RM1.95 billion, this 3rd link will improve connectivity and meet travel demands from the island to mainland
    2. The Gurney Drive – Lebuhraya Tun Dr Lim Chong Eu By-Pass. This 4.2 km stretch will link Gurney Drive with Lebuhraya Tun Dr Lim Chong Eu via Pangkor Road, Perak Road and Sungai Pinang Road. Costing at RM630 million, this by-pass will connect the northern fringes of George Town to the eastern corridor of the island circumventing the Central Business District.
    3. Lebuhraya Tun Dr. Lim Chong Eu – Bandar Baru Air Itam By-pass. This 4.6 km stretch will link Bandar Baru Air Itam (Farlim) with Lebuhraya Tun Dr Lim Chong Eu with interchanges at Bandar Baru Air Itam, Jalan Yeap Chor Ee, Jalan Sultan Azlan Shah and Lebuhraya Tun Dr Lim Chong Eu, near the Penang Bridge. Estimated to cost RM920 million, this by-pass is anticipated to reduce traffic congestion on the local roads.
    4. Tanjung Bunga – Batu Feringgi – Teluk Bahang Paired Road. Stretching for 12 km, this road will be parallel to the existing coastal road from Tanjung Bunga to Teluk Bahang. Estimated to cost RM580 million, the paired road will reduce traffic congestion on the existing North Coastal Road and accommodate generated traffic from new developments.

     
  3. I am sure they would insert a clause which allows the state some control particularly when security of the state is an issue. The present govt is very careful in such matters. The same is done for concessionaires of essential services like water and electricity. The Selangor govt tried to invoke such a clause but unfortunately in their case it requires the approval of the federal govt. If you notice, the CAP has released another statement which to me has not been phrased in a very manner and it gives me the impression that they are only arguing and opposing for the sake of being argumentative. While I agree that the tunnel will not ease congestion in the island, I urge people to also look at the other possible and very real reasons including security and breaking of the monopoly, which may not have been so directly put forth. In other words, do you want a vital service which can cripple your entire state in the hands of one person who controls everything? Some say that uniformity is good and efficient, some may argue otherwise.

     
  4. The CM has explained and clarified on his website.

    http://limguaneng.com/index.php/2013/03/26/input-daripada-dailog-dan-taklimat-rakyat-selama-18-bulan-ini-berkaitan-dengan-4-projek-meleraikan-kesesakan-trafik-lebuhraya-dan-terowong-bawah-dasar-laut-akan-diambilkira-sebelum-surat-perjanjian-mu/

    Agreed that ultimately an overhaul of the public transportation is needed to improve holistically how transportation should be done in a land scarce island. However it’s overtly apparent to everyone that this requires a Federal/State co-managed solution and also a sizable budget to realize.

    I say, fight tooth and nail on the Environment Impact Assessment (DEIA). If it’s not going to pass muster, it’ll be cancelled anyway. But underwater tunnels have been used successfully in Hong Kong, Shanghai … and a host of other metropolis as a means to alleviate congestion.

    But the most interesting part will be this:
    — if the state controls a way of connecting island to the mainland, and is able to show the “correct” way for a Build-Operate-Transfer (BOT) project
    — if this can be realized and to be shown to show “profit” for the operator and smoothly transferred at the end of the concession to the state (fixed at 30 years, non-negotiable and no traffic-flow guarantee), that will blow the current MODEL of the federal govt. awarding concession for excessive long period, with frequent toll hikes _AND_ a traffic-flow guarantee.
    — in the end, this _if successful_ will allow ALL of us to question all the different toll charges around the country. As it is , there is NO OTHER WAY to compare but to take the reason given by the federal govt. as to the Toll Hikes, Concession extension, Penalty for low traffic volume.
    — I think a non-traditional out-of-box thinking warrants our support, if nothing else, to allow us to benchmark the federal govt. run projects.

     
      • Anil, no doubt, the root of the problem is the unbridled growth of vehicle ownership in Penang. (someone quoted 100k annually). Over time, the tunnel _may_ become congested as well. (you can then do dynamic pricing where at peak time, the rate goes higher…etc to try and encourage/discourage use of the tunnel). It will just be another option apart from the 2 bridges + ferry.

        Another thought about the tunnel is if it would be possible to have a tunnel wide enough for future rail line to go through it (it’s probably going to increase the cost, but if you’re going to do the digging work anyway, it may be something to consider for future implementation. So we will have some sort of rail from island to the mainland, and connecting to the high speed connection from KTM -> Singapore / Thailand.

        But NOT doing anything, and sitting around telling people, we don’t need another link to alleviate the traffic flow between island and mainland and exhorting : “people need to use public transport” doesn’t work. It’s akin to the way the govt is telling the people:” we cannot afford to subsidize the basic necessity items…. people need to lead a simpler lifestyle and tighten their belt.” Changing habits take time, and in the absence of an efficient/affordable public transportation option, we do need to do something/brainstorm on how to achieve improvement in reducing traffic congestion. Who knows when will there be the political will to REALLY come up with a comprehensive transport plan like the ones implemented in land scarce metropolic such as HK/Singapore.

        With campaigns :” Jom guna pengangkutan awam” or “Let’s carpool” or “lebih kereta, rakyat merana”, we may be able to start changing habits. Or using the armageddon tool : “certificate of entitlement” horror to severely tax the ones use vehicles, may be the only way to thwart the growth. Hopefully by then, we will have a viable public transport system for most Penangites.) If your politician is using public transportation, you know it’s working — Joe Biden takes Amtrak, Michael Bloomberg takes the subway.

        I agree we do need to proceed with caution, but I do NOT agree that we do NOTHING. I have a feeling, if we were given the chance to voice our opinion almost 30 years ago, there may not be Penang Bridge I . Dialogues and open discussion are great so that we are all aware what is important here and raise the awareness. The people will watch like a hawk all these projects and vote the administration out if it’s done wrong. (isn’t it nice to have choice?)

        my 2 cents.

         
  5. ” Regrettably, the Federal government has decided to play partisan politics at the expense of the public by stubbornly refusing to fulfil their promise of a monorail.”
    Meaning like selangor state depriving the rakyat of adequate treated water?

    ” Contrary to wild allegations by BN, the paid up capital of the four companies that won the tender as a consortium and will be signing on individually with the state government is RM4.5 billion and not RM2.”
    Allegations did not say 4 companies. Spinning? Allegations is on the local concession, not the JV parties. So LGE failed to answer.

    ” The state government agreed to a toll for only 30 years as we did not want to go to a state of war with the Federal government by not charging toll,”
    What kind of argument is this? Otherwise, explain exactly how the state will finance the construction without privatisation (toll) ? This is simply saying ” they’re doing it, so could we”. LGE did not give an objective answer. In fact if Pakatan wins, the existing toll will still have to exist until the concession period ends. Otherwise they will have to compensate the concession companies into billions. For morons out there, privatization means the private companies had to take their own private financing to finance the project without the government paying a single sen and hand over after the concession period ends. So if Pakatan abolished this concession, who will pay the remaining financing cost to the bank plus other compensations that runs into billions? Only idiots believe as they have no idea of the real situation.

     
  6. The argument is an attractive one, but unfortunately it is misconceived. Countless studies have proved conclusively that building more roads (or even widening existing roads) is only a short-term solution as the new roads will invariably attract more traffic and soon the roads will be congested again. In the case of Penang, with 100,000 new vehicles hitting the roads every year, the culmination of such a process will be sooner than anyone can anticipate. – CAP

    I cannot understand the logic behind CAP’s statement. If is true, Penang will need 100,000 car park space every year, there’s more urgency in providing space for cars to park than worried about 100,000 cars populating the roads, perhaps what CAP meant was the roads will be use for illegal parking than for the purpose of transportation, but isn’t that also a solution to an already out of control situation. In this case, don’t you think we should be concern about the reason why 100,000 cars will be hitting the roads in Penang and at the same time, why we think our cars should cost less to buy. Being the irresponsible consumerist that we already are, can the idea of public transport sustain in the pursuit of personal convenient?

     
  7. A stepping stone back to BN, if BN wins GE13?

    Lima Hui: look BN, I pretending support LGE only. I have been doing so much to protest. I even ride bicycle to work in hot sun & big rain.

    Cap ayam: Very obvious, it’s a cross channel support. I’m yours.

    Penang Forum: From start to end, we never give up trying to represent whole Penang ppl.

    Anil & company: I see ppl protest I follow only. Got credit for that?

     
  8. 1. What can we learn from cities elsewhere in the world that have tackled
    traffic congestion successfully?

    2. Support the pro-people Govt of Penang by coming up with feasible alternatives,
    not just by criticising. Short term alternatives as well as long term ones.

     
  9. CAP kept talking nonsense. I remembered its rep one tudung lady kena kau kau from a Malay phD fellow representing the plastic association in a public forum at Kompleks Masyarkat Penyayang for alleging there is BPA in plastic bags and a host of other bull s….

     
    • CAP’s philosophy over the years has been this: Propose nothing. Oppose everything. The greater ethical good of the many should take precedence over the narrow selfish interest of the few, including CAP.

      That is why I never read Utusan Konsumer, even if it is givn free to me.

       
  10. Cap ayam memang Cap ayam.

    Naik feri, feri terbakar. Naik kapalterbang pun bakar, masak di rumah, rumah kena bakar.

    If too free go ronda2 supermarket see which one jual mahal lagi bagus. Ini protest not your job lah. Anyone knows what this Cap ayam suppose to do huh?

     
  11. I agree that this president of CAP sometimes shoots without thinking. They keep harping on the fact that public transport is better than highways when everyone already knows that, everyone already says they want that but the fact is that it is legally not possible. The other thing about the tunnel is that these ppl do not think outside the narrow confines of their mind. Everyone knows that building the tunnel is not so much as to alleviate traffic congestion but to safeguard the interest of the state govt. LGE wants to ensure, rightly or wrongly that at least one crossing is controlled by the state because right now the two bridges and the ferry are federal controlled. I am not saying it is a good or bad thing to do but Penangites should just stop pretending that they do not know this. That includes the president of CAP. Stop pretending that they don’t know why LGE wants the tunnel.

     
  12. CAP, as a whole, is a good consumer watchdog and over the years has kept consumers generally well informed. However, if you were to adhere to every warning given, you would have to stop eating.

    If you consider general public sentiment, we have not, unfortunately, past the status symbol of car ownership: the more the better.

    Coupled with our tropical climate, alternative transport is not an option politically.

    We will just have to wait for the day when the whole of Penang becomes a huge car park. When attitudes change, the solutions will come fast enough.

     
  13. Something wrong with Makaysians. They like to oppose and oppose with no valid reason. The undersea tunnel proposal is not new. It was proposed by sanusi junid way back in 1997 and also by Sammy vellu and previous CM some years back before the northern Penang island tunnel route was shot down by badawi for a southern bridge which someone suggested could enrich one crony with extensive land holdings near bayan leaps.

    This new proposed bridge, tunnel and land to Telekom Bahang is brilliant. Hopefully the state government can assist owners of Malay reserve land at both ends to benefit from the project. It will spur growth of sungai petani and Kulim. Maybe a new coastal highway may be required to sungai petani to bagan ajam.

     
    • Well said #sputjam.. especially the part on how our Pg State Govt should engage the owners of the Malay reserve land on BOTH sides of the channel to see how they can benefit from this tunnel project..

      ALL these yields an exciting time ahead for the next 10 years !! I believe all this are also part of the Penang Paradigm vision too which extends till 2023 !!

       
  14. Sorry for the gaffe in my previous posting.The present north channel depth is 11 metres so the tunnel should be placed at least more than 10 metres below the sea bed to allow dredging of the seabed and deepening the sea to 18.5 metres.

     
  15. I quote LGE saying “We must not turn the next generation into a traffic jam generation to suffer what we had suffered due to lack of foresight and long term planning”.YAB LGE,these highways and tunnel project itself reflects a lack of foresight and long term planning in the part of your administration.More highways and tunnels means more cars on our roads and lead to more traffic congestion,as simple as that.The state government also appear not to care about the impact the project has on the environment.I appeal to Penangites to vote PR out of office for not heeding the views and concerns of NGO”s and the public.

     
  16. “Kau Kau” kena saboh !!!
    THAT’s the way to “show hand” as they say in poker !!

    CAP’s benang-benang basah dropping 1 by 1..
    Like I always opined.. The Rakyat is what really matters.. The Rakyat of Penang in this case.

    Even as I fully agree with the need of the 4 Highways.. It’s exact route and impact shall be assessed by the Detailed Environmental Impact Assessment (Detailed EIA).. same goes with my reserved opinion on the Tunnel till the scientific ecological study is completed.

    TILL THEN.. let us as Penangites support any venture that may alleviate our traffic situation for the better.

     
  17. The state government is adamant in pursuing these project .I foresee a disaster looming after the tunnel project commences.The narrow channel is going to get silted and ships can’t sail through and LGE (could) announce the closure of the more than 200 years old Penang Port.Is this what Penangites want?If the state government wins in the election and decides to proceed with the tunnel project,the tunnel should be more than 20 metres below the sea bed as Penang Port Comission chairman,Dr. Hilmi Yahya had said the channel had to be dredged and deepened to 14.5 metres as soon as possible and in the future further to 18.5 metres in line with other deep water international seaports.

     
  18. I’m intrigued by the CAP statement – Road widening and new roads would attract more traffic? And then, if they don’t build new roads, what then? Choke to death? Seriously, people don’t buy cars just because there are new roads, it’s only the other way round.

     
    • The problem with CAP, they always think they are above everyone. without listening to others. They always think inside the box. They must open up and listen then give their view. It look like CAP is another party within BN.

       

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