Safe cycling lanes: If Vancouver can do it….

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Notice that these are dedicated – and protected – bicycle lanes. Protected bicycle lanes are probably what it would take to enhance public confidence in the safety of cycling in places like Penang, KL, Ipoh and JB.

Even Manchester, a city not previously renown for its cycling infrastructure, has got into the act. Check out the different ways the city has used to protect cyclists using its dedicated bicycle lanes.

One problem with cycle lanes is that those on motorbike and scooters might be tempted to use them. The folks in Amsterdam have staged a protest to keep scooters off their bicycle lanes.

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    • The consultants Halcrow recommended BRT and trams for Penang.. which would have been much cheaper.

  1. Malaysia would not want to host Formula One after this year’s final grand prix there even if it was offered to the country for free, Sepang circuit chief executive Razlan Razali said on Friday.

    Sore loser indeed!

    Sepang F1 suffered dwindling attendance after Singapore F1 night race came onboard. This year’s Singapore F1 concert featured Ariana Grande, Duran Duran, Chainsmokers etc but Sepang F1 concert could only have local artists like M Nasir and Jacklyn Victor. How to attract foreign audience?

  2. @ Khun Pana,

    Yes it is true that such culture exists across our region.

    Quite frankly I feel that mass public awareness and concern only comes after they have had to suffer the effects of industrial and economic “development” much like people in the west had to go through before they became concerned over the effects of pollution.

    Except for a relatively small number of people like those here who are aware of such problems and drawbacks of “development”, most people still regard having a motor vehicle, a mega mall, etc as a symbols of rising affluence and bicycles as a return to their past of poverty.

    It may take future generations born into an affluent society to realise that despite all their material affluence they lack quality of life and that is when they will realise and be more receptive to the kind of attitudes found in the west today.

    As for shared bikes, given our current culture, I think it is more practical to have the bike lanes but let people buy their own bikes, whilst governments can encourage manufacturers to produce affordable bikes for everyone.

    It is obvious from the video that the companies which provide the shared bikes and charge fees for their use are doing so for their own financial gain, not out of any sense of altruism or ideal.

    As for mist fans, they were popular in Malaysia in the 199os and 2000s but no more and that is because cooling by the vapourisation of water droplets is effective in climates where the temperature may be high but humidity low, so they are not all that effective in hot and humid climates such as we find in Malaysia and their proliferation in outdoor areas of chain cafes, restaurants, etc were in most cases more of a matter of stylo mylo – “gotta have them too”.

    In desert areas of countries such as the United States or Australia, such mist fans have been found to cool the area covered by as much as 8 degrees C during summer.

    Such cooling by water vapourisation was implemented in the Middle East since centuries or millennia ago and I understand that they are still instead of air conditioners.

    Basicallt, it is about knowing when and how to use them.

    Some years I had lunch at an outdoor eatery near my home which had the mist line on one wall and the fans blowing against the mist on another mall and it was blowing the mist into my food, which was annoying and showed that the owner of the establishment had no idea about the principles of cooling or concern for customers.

    On the other hand, there is a coffee shop run by some brothers, one of whom is an engineer and they had mist fans in the outdoor areas and just a mist line indoors.

    I asked the owner whether these were effective in our hot and humid climate and he said that he only turns them on at midday when the temperature is highest and the relative humidity the lowest according to a hygrometer he produced. He said that he turns them off at night or when it rains.

    Here is a good, scientific article on misting fans.
    http://www.lumacomfort.com/articles/science-of-misting-fans/

    Here is an research paper on the effectiveness of mist fans conducted by researchers at the National University of Singapore and it’s the same story – i.e. they are most effective when humidity is low.

    https://www.researchgate.net/publication/222826861_Performance_evaluation_of_misting_fans_in_hot_and_humid_climate

    • BN is losing its influence among voters through the major newspapers it controls due to falling circulation figures.

      https://www.themalaysianinsight.com/s/16502/

      According to the Audit Bureau of Circulations Malaysia, figures at the end of last year compared with the same period in 2012 showed that Harian Metro suffered the worst drop – 62.5% – from 379,169 copies to 142,262.

      The New Straits Times was the second worst, with circulation falling 41.6% from 93,321 copies at the end of 2012 to 54,490 copies at the end of last year.

      Major Bahasa Malaysia dailies Utusan Malaysia and Berita Harian each saw their circulation figures fall by 30% in the same period.

    • The mainstream media have only themselves to blame for losing readers and the public’s trust, say media experts, as their pro-Barisan Nasional stance has destroyed their credibility.

      The Internet has also helped this decline as Malaysians migrate online for news and views that are either ignored or suppressed by newspapers, free-to-air television and radio stations.

      Although editors at mainstream outlets say their editorial stance is due to strict laws which regulate permits and licences, observers say that is only half of the story.

      Many mainstream media outlets were led by editors who actually believe and support the BN cause, thus, their content was tailored to fit those convictions, said veteran journalist Wan Hamidi Hamid.

      Though mainstream press have lost readers and more people are getting their news online, experts such as Dr Mustafa Kamal Anuar worry that this has led BN to regulate web content – a breach of the government’s promise made in the 1990s to not censor the Internet.

      https://www.themalaysianinsight.com/s/16722/

      • The decline of print media and their Web presence is systemic and is happening worldwide, and it includes non-political publications such as the one about mobile phones and the mobile lifestyle which wrote for for about four and a half years back in the 2000s and which is defunct now.

        After all, who wants to read about a new model of smartphone or tablet launched on a Malaysian news portal when they can read about it online on sites such as Endgadget, Gizmodo and others by writers who were actually on the scene, rather than Malaysian writers who mostly have to report second hand based upon reports by Endgadget, Gizmodo, etc. And once the same models are launched in Malaysia several months later, they are old news, apart from their price in ringgit. It’s the same with foreign news> If I want to read about foreign news, such as the result of the Catalunya independence referendum, I would read about it on international media sites which have reporters on the ground, rather than second hand on a Malaysian news website and I am pretty sure that this is true of most who are online as well.

        This has been happening in the more advanced economies such as in North America and Western Europe and the infographic in The Broken Elbow article “The Decline Of Newspapers In One Simple Graph…..” explains why and is accessible via the link below:-
        https://thebrokenelbow.com/2016/11/08/the-decline-of-newspapers-in-one-simple-graph/

        The infographic shows that circulation figures are not everything, since they are primarily contribute to circulation revenue and indirectly have a bearing on the inclination for advertisers to want to advertise in the publication. For example, with its current circulation of 316,564 daily copies (excluding Sunday) at a newstand price of RM1.20 each, Star Media Group earns RM379,877 in circulation revenue per day, which may seem a lot but once production and distribution costs are factored in, since the RM1.20 newstand price is a subsidised price below cost and has to be more than made up for by advertising revenue.

        Note how Google and Facebook have drawn away much advertising revenue from US newspapers and being globally accessible online, they can potentially draw away online ad revenue from online publications worldwide, since advertisers are looking for maximum exposure for their advertising dollar and almost everyone online uses Google and a large number access Facebook.

        Hence more significant for any publication, whether print only, print & online, online only or digital is adex (advertising expenditure), the figures of which are harder to come by, though the most recent AllianceDBS Research report on Star Media Group provides much information about adex and circulation trends for all English language newspapers in Malaysia. This PDF can be downloaded via the Bursa Malaysia link below.

        https://eresearchsystem.bursamalaysia.com/eResearch/webdownload.pub?id=19997

        Please note that Star Media Group lumps its print, online and digital revenue under one category.

        You can also check out Star Media Group’s revenue and profit trend over the past five years, including the recent two quarters via the MalaysiaStock dot Biz link below.
        http://www.malaysiastock.biz/Corporate-Infomation.aspx?securityCode=6084

        Also Berjaya Media’s (which publishes The Sun) five year revenue and profit trend via the link below.
        http://www.malaysiastock.biz/Corporate-Infomation.aspx?securityCode=6025

        The Sun is distributed free of charge, is available for free on its website and relies solely on advertsing revenue for its profitability and as of its fiscal Q1 2018 report (ended 31 July 2017), the paper looks like it is headed for its fourth consecutive loss making year, though its Q1 2018 loss after tax, is much less than in Q1 2017. However, we will only know the whole picture by the end of Berjaya Media’s 2018 financial year, since Q1 has been its best quarter in the past few years, whilst losses can be much greater in subsequent quarters.

        Earlier analyst reports on Star Media Group by Alliance DBS Research and TA Securities cab be downloaded from the Bursa Malaysia (Malaysian Bourse) website via the link below.
        http://www.bursamalaysia.com/market/listed-companies/research-repository/research-reports#/?counter=6084

        Many of the recent earlier reports deal with Star Media Group’s sale of its majority stake in its profitable and growing Singapore-listed and Singapore-based subsidiary Cityneon.

        There are no analyst reports on Berjaya Media
        http://www.bursamalaysia.com/market/listed-companies/list-of-companies/plc-profile.html?stock_code=6025

        However Berjaya Media is still listed as a PN17 company on Bursa Malaysia as as of September 2017 per attached and via this link below.
        http://www.bursamalaysia.com/misc/system/assets/21857/Status_PN17_GN3_Companies_(Sept2017).pdf

        Here is a description of a PN17 company:-

        “In general, PN17 companies normally have some financial difficulties. As such, investors get quite worried when some of the shares they hold are for PN17 companies. They usually face a dilemma of whether to cut losses or hope for a rebound for such shares.”

        “Here are some reasons for companies to be classified under PN17: companies’ shareholders’ funds are less than 25% of their total paid-up capital; receivers have been appointed to take control of the companies’ assets; the winding-up of some of their subsidiaries and associated companies; the auditors have expressed adverse opinions on the companies; default in loan interest and principal repayments; the companies have suspended or ceased their operations; and companies do not have any significant businesses or operations.”

        Read more at http://www.thestar.com.my/business/business-news/2010/07/14/what-is-a-pn17-company-do-you-sell-or-buy-its-shares/#AKprIPutoz63ZIAF.99

        If Berjaya Media Group does not manage to turn its fortunes around within the 12 month period required by Bursa Malaysia, it can be delisted from the stock exchange unless it can obtain an extension of the deadline.

        However, Berjaya is a fairly diverse conglomerate with other profitable subsidiaries and a rich sugar daddy in Tan Sri Vincent Tan who can keep Berjaya Media and The Sun in business despite continuous losses.

        Whilst Star Media Group is still profitable, if its decline in profitability continues, it too could end up being served a PN17 (Practice Note 17) by Bursa Malaysia as well.

        However, unlike Berjaya, Star Media Group now does not have other profitable or significantly profitable subsidiaries besides its publications unit, so it is rather curious why it let go of Cityneon. So if Star Media Group goes into the red, it will most probably have to rely on “Uncle MCA” to prop it up.

        The gradual decline in print newspapers began to be felt after Telekom Malaysia launched Streamyx, its ADSL broadband Internet services in April 2001, followed by the cellular 3G operators who launched their respective cellular broadband services from around 2006 onwards, then Telekom Malaysia launched its Unifi fibre broadband service in 2010.

        Between 2006 and 2010, the Malaysian government via its MyICMS 886 straegy, drove deployment efforts and efforts to encourage adoption of high-speed broadband service in Malaysia through what was then the Ministry of Energy, Water and Communications under the late Tun Dr. Lim Keng Yaik which in turn drove it through the communications and multimedia regulator, the Malaysian Communications and Multimedia Commission (MCMC) and by 10 October 2010 had achieved 53% nationwide broadband Internet penetration, which now stands at around 75% or more.

        Therefore, it looks like the decline of print media and its respective online or digital versions have declined somewhat in inverse proportion to broadband Internet penetration, whether fibre or cellular and whether accessed on PC, tablet devices or smartphones.

        Basically, the future does not look good for media in Malaysia, unless the proverbial ‘pendulum’ swings back in favour of print advertising after advertisers had gone along with the online and digital advertising bandwagon, only to find that there is rather poor ROI in terms of sales generated for their advertising dollars, as the Zero Hedge articles via the links below suggest:-

        P&G Slashed Digital Ad Spending, This Is What Happened Next | Zero Hedge
        http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-07-29/pg-slashed-digital-ad-spending-what-happened-next

        A Startling Anecdote About Online Ad Spending From Restoration Hardware | Zero Hedge
        http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-09-11/startling-anecdote-about-online-advertising-restoration-hardware

        This could be a ray of hope for print advertising, TV and radio advertising if advertisers return to these media, unless as some predict, advertisers would adopt direct advertising instead, so too bad for publications and for journalism as a viable paying career on which journalists can depend on for a living.

        Meanwhile, whilst The Malaysian Insight and others here put the decline of mainstream media in Malaysia to their pro-BN bias which drives readers towards alternative media sources, however its predecessor The Malaysian Insider was closed down due to 20 months of continuous losses amounting to a total of RM10 million, so with the exception of Malaysiakini which has managed to break even and be moderately profitable, the others mostly rely on some behind teh scenes rich sugar daddy or suggar daddies to prop them for political reasons as I pointed out in my blog post below:-
        http://itsheiss.blogspot.my/2016/03/so-thats-it-malaysian-insider-finally.html

        So if the new sugar daddies who now finance The Malaysian Insight decide to pull the plug, The Malaysian Insight will close shop too, since advertisers, especially those advertsing mass consumer products and services avoid having ther ads appear on overtly politically inclined websites, since could alienate buyers who are politically inclined the other way.

  3. The road space for BRT or cycling has to be taken away from private cars, a fact that is still politically inconvenient. China is implementing this because its situation is desperate, it can ram its policies through, and the scope for corruption is narrowing. In Bolehland, the average citizen is either in awe of those abusing public wealth or ill-gotten gains to ride around ostentatiously, or desperate to show off himself. The car, highway, petroleum, insurance and enforcement industries continue to exploit ignorance. The dedak continues to flow, much of it to the hypocritical West. When one flyover “link” costing hundreds of millions of RM is completed, another one takes over the congestion, pollution (poisoning) and misery.

    • Rapid KL operates a Bus Rapid Transit on an elevated roadway between an LRT station in Subang Jaya and Bandar Sunway next to it. Perhaps this could be a compromise solution given Penang’s congested and narrow roads.

  4. To live a healthy lifestyle, recommended to walk 10,000 steps a day.
    You can install appon you mobile to monitor your daily steps.
    Most people 1,500 steps on average so compromise health being over dependent on motor vehicles to get around.
    As Malaysians age, hospital bills definitely on rise that’s why medical tourism booming.

  5. The first electric car-sharing programme in Singapore will be launched in December with 30 charging stations and 80 electric cars being rolled out progressively, operator BlueSG said on Sep 27.

    BlueSG, a subsidiary of French conglomerate Bollore Group, signed an agreement with the Land Transport Authority (LTA) and the Economic Development Board in June last year to develop an electric car-sharing programme that will see 1,000 electric cars being deployed in stages.

    http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/singapore-s-first-electric-car-sharing-programme-to-launch-in-9254156

    This is one way to reduce car ownership and road congestion, to allow safer cycling and less carbon emissions to the environment.

      • Penang Forum should register as the Penang People’s Front political party and contest in Penang state only and if it wins, to the right things for Penang people.

      • Talk and giving comments easy. What about you starting Selangor Forum and stand for election

  6. Shriek wrote:-

    “KL has more high rises than Selangor. What no objection to KL enforcement riding kuda? What horses enforcement for? Any presentation to KL minister? How about winning on opposing central projects by central gomen?”

    Speaking for myself, I live in Petaling Jaya, Selangor and expected the PH state government to stop this high rise building which was happening during the time of the previous BN state government but instead, there has been more and faster high-rise development in the nine years of PH rule in Selangor than under the former BN government.

    I read an article where Teresa Kok criticised the rampant high rise development in Kuala Lumpur but was silent on similar development in Petaling Jaya and Selangor and that is double standards to me.

    Basically, it is now apparent to me that there has been no major difference between the PN and PH in this regard.

    • There are more high rise in KL and mega develepment. Bandar Malaysia in S. Besi airbase, Razak Xchange, demolish Merdeka Stadium to built 100 storey highrise. Pudu Jail demolish waiting for another mega development. People living in KL are chased away from the city and become hantu after dark. U only see what in PJ and Subang and not KL

    • Bn chased out KL people and replaced by offices, self service apartments and hotels. Tell us, where KL people supposed to go? Under S. Klang bridges? Of course, some go to PG.

      • Statistics Department’s figures show some 55,000 people from Kuala Lumpur moved to Johor Baru between 2015 and 2016, making KLites the biggest migrant group for the period. JB is the base camp for those Malaysians shuttling to work in Singapore daily.

        http://m.thesundaily.my/node/485935

    • Moving vehicles endanger Love Lane’s alfresco dining customers. The CO emitted from the cars is as harmful as secondary smokes from cigarettes.

  7. My neighbour cleans his car almost daily, while outside his home a big mess. This shows Malaysians treat cars like Precious.

  8. I don’t think Penangites will adopt cycling as most of them love their cars more than their spouses. Anil can conduct a poll among his readers on this.

    • My neighbour cleans his car almost daily, while outside his home a big mess. This shows Malaysians treat cars like Precious.

  9. Cycling is not safe on those narrow Penang roads with so many fast and furious cars and menancing 4WDs that never give way. If you want to cycle, do so on no car day.

    • Dunno but I doubt this O’bike thing will last long. I spotted one resting on a pole along a residential road in Petaling Jaya.

      The best approach to encouraging bicycling is to provide bike lanes along main roads across the city and let people ride their own bike.

    • Being part Thai, I am on the one hand congratulate Thailand for its bike lane, though hopefully it is not just a project to have the “longest”.

      At the same time, I am sad to see that there are Thais, especially motorists and motorcyclists who like many Malaysians lack the civic consciousness and discipline to respect the bike lane.

      I sometimes say Malaysians are is a …. society, or …. in Thai. I can see much of that… behaviour in my own neighbourhood, where drivers park their cars in the service lanes behind link houses which are meant for emergency vehicles such as the fire brigade in case of a fire in one of the houses. The police nor local authority enforcers don’t bother to book them or tow away their cars.

      Besides enforcement by the police or local authorities, it needs the public to conscious and bold enough to scold those who abuse such public facilities, as the public will in countries like the Netherlands and in Vancouver. Social sanction which makes people who abuse such public facilities feel ashamed, is one of the powerful means to prevent abuse.

      Sawatdee khrap.

      • Sadly, that is the culture in this region.
        Abusing the cyclist lane and walkways/pathways.
        Visited the city of Vancouver years ago.(there was no smartphone activated bike rental then )
        Their weather there is terrific and is of nearly the same weather found in many parts of China.
        In most of the Chinese cities and towns, they have dedicated cyclist lane which is as wide as a normal road.
        For Penang, this will be difficult to do due to narrow roads.
        And since most Malaysians or readers will say that our weather is too hot. Yes, it is.
        May i suggest to install wet blower fans or water mist blowers or whatever they are now called as at dedicated spots.
        City of Shenzhen -China installed such water misting fans /water vapouriser on lamp post for cyclist and pedestrian to cool off.
        And problem of bike sharing, i think this video covers it.-

  10. If certain Penang heritage area turns into no motor vehicle zone strictly for pedestrians and cyclists, then the traders there will cry foul citing businesses affected.

    First and foremost need to educate the young not to over dependent on motor vehicles. However, this is tough as most parents don’t lead by example. Basically binchui factor discourages many to walk more, blaming hot weather unlike in Holland – all sorts of excuses not knowing health matter being compromised with little walkabout exercises.

    • A lecturer at a private college in Petaling Jaya told me about a high school student who was given the opportunity to complete a semester at the twinning college in Australia and he went but soon returned before the semester was up and when this lecturer asked why he returned so soon, the student said that he disliked having to take the bus in Australia.

      Obviously this the parents of this privileged spoilt brat gave him use of a car, so he could not adapt to taking a bus.

      I am 63 and during my school days, most students either walked to school, came by bus, by bicycle whilst at most the sixth form students rode motor scooters – i.e. kap chais, whilst none at my school refered to had cars. However today, the same school has provided ample parking place for students to park their cars and I see no bicycles atthe school today, and this is a government-aided school, not a private school.

      So, It will not be easy to convince the majority of Gen Y, Millennials or even older to revert to using bicycles, with few exceptions of course, since not everyone will be receptive to environmental concerns or give it much priority over other concerns, such as personal status, image, one upmanship, keeping up with the Joneses, their personal safety, personal comfort and so forth.

  11. First and foremost Penang do not have qualified highway engineers who are able to design cycle lanes. It is not simply painting a line saying that it is a cycle lane. It involves clear road marking, junction design etc
    Secondly, roads in Penang are narrow and is not possible to have a dedicated cycle lane without impeding the free fkow of traffic.
    Thirdly, in order for cycle lane to function efficiently, cyclist must learn the highway code. For instance places like Denmark and Holland have ‘cycle schools’.
    Lastly, by-laws for cycle lanes must be enacted to prevent motorised vehicle from using it and it should be free from.obstructions at all times.
    The mindset of cyclist must also change to show ‘consideration’ for other users.
    Unfortunately, I am of the opinion that Penang State government do not have sufficient qualified personnel who would be able to design a dedicated cycle lane.
    Nevertheless, the idea is a giod one provided it is carefully thought out.

    • Funny they can find the expertise to come up with a proposal for a six-lane highway that will hug the hills along certain stretches and then tunnel through other stretches.

      Funny they can find the expertise to create three new artificial islands.

      Yet unfortunately, unable to find the expertise to create safe bus lanes and city cycle lanes.

      • That my dear Anil is the problem with the expertise in Malaysia.

        As for bus lanes, it was tried on some major roads in Kuala Lumpur back in the 1990s and if I recall right, it was the idea of Anwar Ibrahim when he was deputy-prime minister. Bus lanes were installed on major roads such as Jalan Syed Putra and are still there but without proper enforcement and civic consciousness they are a total failure.

        Besides enforcement by the police and local authorities, civic consciousness and civic discipline are important for such facilities to work and social sanction by the community is a powerful deterrent to abusers of such facilities and there is a woeful lack of that, unlike in cities like Vancouver where I lived for two years and in the Netherlands.

        Bike lanes have been set up on widened sidewalks in the Petaling Jaya city centre – i.e. “PJ New Town” as well as bicycle stands which people can lock their bike to but the Petaling Jaya city centre is tiny, perhaps less than one square kilometre in area and there are no bike lanes leading up to it, so nobody uses these token bike lanes in PJ New Town.

        This seems to me to be just for show on the part of the Petaling Jaya City Council, to give the world the impression that Petaling Jaya is a “world class” city, when they allow Petaling Jaya to become a concrete jungle with high rises sprouting everywhere.

        An Arab friend who has lived in Malaysia for many years told me, “Malaysia is great on appearances but lacks essence” and he is so right.

        Either that, or their idea of making Petaling Jaya a “liveable city” is to have high rises, air conditioned megamalls and foreign branded chain cafe’s serving lattes all over the city.

        And all this is happening nine years into Selangor state being under the governance of a Pakatan state government, which I had expected to have stopped the buidling, building, building nonsense which was being implemented under the former BN state government before 2008 but alas they did not.

        I suppose as that old saying goes, “Money talks, bull… walks” and even if no corruption is involved, there is money to be made from quit rent and assessment by the city and the state.

        So no CAT (competency, accountability and transparency) or got CAT, we the “plaebian” masses of Petaling Jaya and Selangor still lose. So where is the “competency, accountability and transparency”?

        Perhaps to them, CAT means having a state budget surplus which they can brag about at election rallies, not facilities and regulations in the interest of people.

        Residents of my section had to fight the Selangor state government tooth and nail to oppose the construction of the Kinrara-Damansara Expressway (KiDEX), an elevated four-lane highway running through my neighbourhood and we won, well so far.

        This is my blog against KiDEX
        http://no2kidex.blogspot.my/

        Later a developer wanted to build a four-lane elevated highway called the Petaling Jaya Dispersal Link (PJDlink) which follows most of the planned route of KiDEX, except this time, a part of it runs above the river – Sungai Penchala, which runs behind the backs of the bungalows three parallel roads away from the road where I live.

        https://no2pjdlink.blogspot.my/2016/08/has-corpse-of-kidex-risen-from-grave.html

        Also watch this video
        https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9fqexaobXgBX0xkaEdmQW5IeVU/view

        We went door to door and collected over 500 signatures for a petition opposing PJDlink which we presented to the Menteri Besar Azmin Ali at his office building in Shah Alam. We continued collecting signatures door to door until we got over 1,000 and presented it to the Federal Works Minister.

        https://no2pjdlink.blogspot.my/

        We won again, well at least for now, as the Selangor state government did not approve construction of PJDlink.

        Don’t waste time with online petitions, they are IT scheiss.

        Do the hard work and go door to door and get hardcopy paper petitions in pen and ink and present them in person to the authorities, preferably by a delegation of representatives and you will have a better chance of success.

        I also got to make some great friends amongst my neighbours.

        However, even then no guarantees, as the Selangor state government still approved the Damansara-Shah Alam Highaway (DASH) and the Sungai Besi-Ulu Kelang Elevated Expressway (SUKE), despite protests by residents.

      • Why no proper enforcement on cars on bus lanes but good in calling up opposite for question by aca and polisi? Also imposition of one’ idea and standards on others?
        KL has more high rises than Selangor. What no objection to KL enforcement riding kuda? What horses enforcement for? Any presentation to KL minister? How about winning on opposing central projects by central gomen? We failed because of Central administration policies and in education. Students learn dollars can kau Tim. Cash is king

      • Not only edu fail, but also believe in the almighty. We have the religion in the highest law and and people going to all different places places of worship. What are we supposed to learn from all different places of worship?

    • A. There are no cycle schools in Holland. We are almost born on a bicycle. Migrants can take a course in the wonders of cycling, mostly done by volunteers.
      B. Every vehicle which goes faster than a cyclist and/or a pedestrian needs to show respect for pedestrian or cyclist. A ‘good’ driver stops for a pedestrian who wants to cross the road, lot more good behaviour rules to learnlearn for motorbike riders and car drivers.
      Instead of other way around. A Highway code doesn’t mean get out of MY way…!!!
      C. Be a Gentleman in Traffic!!!
      Most Malaysians can’t drive and have definitely no respect at all in traffic. Wonder how they get there driving license…it is said together with a package of creamy butter!!! I believe that.

      • I first went to China as a media party for a distributors and dealers event of a PC manufacture which held that event in Kunming sometime in 1977 or 1998 and I thought the bus driver very rude when he honked at me who had disembarked from the plane and was standing on the tarmac.

        I also noticed this apparent “rudeness” by motorists and motorcyclists in Kunming until I learned that under the law there, the pedestrain is king and a bicyclist or driver of a larger evjicle is in the wrong if he hits a pedestrian, a motorcyclist or larger vehicle is in the wrong if he hits a bicyclist, a car or larger is in the wrong if he hits a motorcyclist and all the way up to a bus or lorry being in the wrong if it hits a car, smaller vehicles of a pedestrian.

        So they honk their horn furiously so if they hitthe smaller vehicle or pedestrian, they can can say that their tried their best to warn the driver of the smaller vehicle or the pedestrian. Hence the apparent “rudeness”.

        Kudos to China for prioritising pedestrians and cyclists.

    • Uni teaches highway and road engineering. Name which uni or ask board of engrs or engrs Malaysia to recommend bicycle Lanes engrs. Any engrs want to cut pay and do bicycle Lane design?

    • Edu. is central gomen business. BN mca is minister of transport. Did they spend money to educate the public? How about safety programs in TV 1 & 2? Of course unless PF is willing to show and educate the public.

    • Who said no proper local council enforcement like in Ph states? Did you help out when drivers threaten enforcer in Selangor and pg? But bus lanes are in federal roads like Jln TAR, Lornie road, federal highway belongs to federal. You better petition to your BN minister fast.

  12. Safer pedestrian walk a higher priority for Penang, and if got more space then dedicate lane for bicycling.

    Now the pavement uneven filled with protruding dangerous stuffs like metal, screws. Tackle this first otherwise pedestrians get knocked down by careless cyclists.

    • The trade-off shouldn’t be between pedestrians and cyclists. It should be between the interests of motorists vs cyclists/pedestrians/bus lanes.

      • Then your value proposition should be to restrict the rise at alarming rate of private motor (carbon emission) vehicles, and to encourage more bicycles, pedestrians on the roads that currently being deprived proper spaces.
        Time to impose Electronic Road Pricing for cars during peak moments?

    • Talking about pointed screws & bolts, I have had 4 punctures this year alone due to puncturing screws left on our roads.
      One tyre shop told me they had to fix up punctured tyres almost everyday, while I saw one customer had to get rid of a bolt (mind you, not a pointed screw) puncturing his back tyre.

      My Observation: Why nowadays we have more screws + bolts left on our roads which are bad for our tyres?
      Blame the furniture shops & home renovation spree?

      • Who wants to fight? Why so serious and it is just a remark that one strike 4 punctures. You have 2 cars and never voice out getting 4 punctures. If unfortunate strike can happen, Lucky strike can also happen.
        Better blame tokong? Afterall he looks after Pg.

      • Ooh gosh.
        Zoro you change your email and name.

        rajraman.Still fighting as usual with my buddy Tunglang.Go and buy 4 ekor.My car number 6606.Always 1st price every year.I have 4 cars registered under 6606.2 sold after 5 years.Left 2.
        Anyway i don’t buy 4 ekor.

    • In Petaling Jaya, not all motorists respect pedestrian crossings, especially not those which are traffic light controlled but just indicated by white lines on the road or what are called “zebra crossings”.

      Enforcement is required to teach such kiasu motorists to observe the protocol of yielding right of way to pedestrians on zebra crossings but enforcement is lacking, so anarchy and “me first” reigns.

      • Where is the hope if PJ has Um, Religious college, teaching hospital, private unis, middle class who are all control by central gomen and does not obey traffic rules? Edu is federal gomen responsibilty

    • Omg, 4 cars here and now still 2 one on left and the other on right. Of course, your 4 kawan all car owners. How to talk about bicycles? Anil you have to preach harder. Why cars owners not giving good comments on gomen building or widening roads?

      • You change your email again Zoro?
        Jealous ha? I have 3 more cars bought second hand, so I can’t be registered as 6606.

        rajraman. I used all the car, I start one car and all the other cars auto drive and follow my back. How I do it you think whatever way you want. Anyway which GOD you calling – The Deity?
        There is another meaning for shriek -: squawk,: squawk: squawk.

      • Your car’s can auto drive and follow you and expect people to auto follow your PSM and only rights for Indians only?

    • A car is still a car. Whether is brand new, second, third, last hand or bone shaker. A car is not a bicycle and will go onto roads and highway. It release Co, co2 and warm the earth. No wonder pg has big flood recently.
      Pasar mlm trader will do anything. Like governing party will attack person with blue film, sex stories, dancing partners. Just gutter.

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