The Better, Cheaper, Faster alternative to a massive transport hub at Sia Boey

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Take a good look at these images. This is what we could have at Sia Boey under the Better, Cheaper, Faster framework for transport in Penang.

It would bring public transport right to the front door of Komtar, which could be revitalised at a fraction of the cost of a massive transport hub.

Sia Boey trams alternative

But this idea might be too cheap a solution for those who favour mega projects … including an unwieldy multi-storey interchange with LRT and monorail lines on different floors of a massive concrete complex.

With the Better, Cheaper, Faster alternative, the old Sia Boey market could be turned into a tram station, like so:

Sia Boey trams alternative

Sia Boey trams alternative

Sia Boey trams alternative

And the rich heritage of Sia Boey could be preserved at the same time.

Sia Boey trams alternative

Sia Boey trams alternative

Sia Boey trams alternative

We could have the best of both worlds. What’s not to like about this?

P.S. A big thank you to those who designed these graphics.

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XiaoBee
XiaoBee

Instead of tram, what about Maglev (magnetic levitation) train for Penang?
This is the option Sultan Johor has planned for Johor.

http://www.nst.com.my/news/2016/08/169645/maglev-trains-set-revolutionise-johor

Ray
Ray

Johor Sultan is cash rich with many business connections with many China firms.
So such Maglev train could be a reality in Johor while Penang folks are still debating about tram vs LRT.

Siang Yee
Siang Yee

what say you, Penang Forum?

tunglang
tunglang
“If I were the Transport Minister” Liew Chin Tong http://www.malaysiakini.com/news/353890 MP SPEAKS On Aug 21, Research for Social Advancement (Refsa) organised a talk by renowned architect Kun Lim in the Library for Social Democracy at the DAP headquarters, titled ‘City Design for People’. As Kun Lim was the concept master planner of Putrajaya, I had my doubts about whether the architect behind such a mega project would hold progressive views. I had my views on Putrajaya. In 2002, when I was studying in Australian National University, I took a course called ‘Psychological Perspective on Politics’. In one of the assignments… Read more »
zoro
zoro

pay people to take buses? you can bark at mt komtar but why not at mt putrajaya? you can join marina chin at hilton jail for a week

tunglang
tunglang
‘Liew Chin Tong will never be transport minister’ http://www.malaysiakini.com/letters/354028 Liew Chin Tong is at it again trying to hoodwink the electorate by playing populist games. An absurd proposal by the DAP MP on Sunday reeks of populist politics and is devoid of any transport planning logic whatsoever. His proposal to ‘pay people to take the bus’ was cleverly conceived to pander to the frustrated urban commuters stuck in daily traffic jams. Selangor has since the beginning of this year provided free bus service in some of its most congested areas. RM12.5 million from the state have been paid to provide… Read more »
Lon-Boey Observer
Lon-Boey Observer

BN (UMNO) has created “SiaBoey Controversy” to sidetrack the attention to #MO1 ?

Someone is laughing at the folly created ! if so

umno dedak tastes good
umno dedak tastes good

possibly ? in bolehland, semua pun boleh… from missing planes to coconuts and flying carpets !

tunglang
tunglang

Building above 250ft on the hills are already a possibility!
Breaking its own land laws is possible, CAT laws in civil society is Apa Pun Boleh!
Go back to Komtar Tower 28th Floor to ask “is it?” your political trader master, if you have not been brief completely.
What a pity in perpetual self-denial.

zoro
zoro

penang structure plans has been released. still barking at your recycled stories. you should study them and flawed them

tunglang
tunglang

So UMNO can do, CAT Niao Kong also can do?
Begini lah UBAH tak UBAH! Sama sama sekelompok! Cakap tak serupa bikin tapi shiok-shiok tipu 308!
NYIAMAK …!

zoro
zoro

Tun lang you love side tracks and side lanes… No wonder Anil insist tram with fixed tracks for you not to walkabout.

umno dedak tastes good
umno dedak tastes good

takkanlah umno tak pernah tebus tanah besar-besaran ! takkanlah umno tak pernah buka lombong bauxit atau kilang pelupusan bahan radioaktif !….

umno dedak tastes good
umno dedak tastes good

jadi umno yg ikut semua undang2 ?

takkanlah umno tak pernah membina atas bukit2 ! takkanlah umno tak pernah tebang pokok2 dan musnahkan rumah2 !

inilah suara seorang yg memang dahagakan dedak 2.6 bilion yg diperbuat di Las Vegas ! wakakaka… bleh ‘high’ pulak tu !

tunglang
tunglang

How observant! What level is your Blame Game skill?

Tommy Cay
Tommy Cay

I appreciate the effort put in by you guys to present an alternative plan for the increasingly jam city but like some of the comments noted that there are many flaws and unanswered points needs to be further discussed. How can this tram system service the longer routes, the mainland and the mad traffic in and out of industrial area and air port? any upgrade readily available to service these people? in 5 years or 30 years time?

umno dedak tastes good
umno dedak tastes good

is a slow-moving tram able to service the 18km between Penang Airport and Georgetown ? how many arrivals in Penang yearly ? to the tune of 6.5 million ?

is a tram coach capable of taking this capacity ?

whats the point of having a tram line when KLIA and Changi have faster rail systems connected to the rest of these cities ?

can a tram negotiate the infamous Penang traffic with over 1.6 million private vehicles ? mat rempits ? double parking ? reckless/drunk drivers ?

zoro
zoro

elementary watson. no rocket science. express trams trains buses or lrt

Andy
Andy
And some rebuttal to some SMART points made by concerned folks: 1) Both LRT/Monorail and Tram involves relocation of utilities. Answer: Partially true. Street-level tram tracks involve massive removal of many cables along the tracks; whereas elevated LRT/Monorail tracks can plan their pillars to reduce conflict with underground cables 2) Both LRT/Monorail and Tram involves acquistion of land. Answer: Street-level tram needs 2 lanes to be acquired. Elevated LRT & Monorail only 1 lane 3) SRS said Penang soils are soft, not suitable for building tram. Don’t tell me LRT is not heavy! Answer: Elevated pillars are reinforced structures so… Read more »
umno dedak tastes good
umno dedak tastes good
indeed. parts of SG soil consist of soft clay. yet how did they build MBS and some of the underground portions of the MRT ? careful soil engineering will be very useful for the elevated LRTs. thats the whole point here. Penang forum claims their tram costs between 80 million and 115 million per km ? did it include land acquisition ? digging works on roads ? insurance for underground utilities, if any ? do they dare to demolish houses and raise the ire of residents in the process ? how much land does PG have ? and once completed,… Read more »
umno dedak tastes good
umno dedak tastes good

oh yes, just because Halcrow says so ! is Halcrow chosen to implement this PTMP ? have you checked Oxford/Cambridge/MacMillan for the meaning of ‘ESTIMATE’ ?

have you consulted the real professionals at all and not just your small closed clique ? have you tried to buy those stretches of land yet ? how are you to pay this ? your own deep pockets ?

on second thoughts, paying with your own pockets for your own obedience to Halcrow would be much highly appreciated !

umno dedak tastes good
umno dedak tastes good

Halcrow was engaged in the initial stages. but does it mean their estimates are to be followed every step of the way ? is Halcrow the only professional firm ?

if a study has proven to be unrealistic, do you still insist on it ? did SG listen to the advice of the World Bank then ?

is there not a difference between concept and implementation? as it is, PTMP is not even given the green light by umno !

zoro
zoro

all elevated structures for trams , lrt and cars need piles

Andy
Andy
I figured I just leave some of the observations I made on Penang Forum’s BCF proposal so readers can evaluate for themselves (be informed readers). *I also shared this in Penag Forum’s Facebook page. 1) Halcrow studies recommend 2-track street-level trams but this was deemed as not viable for 91% of the routes. In BCF proposal they suggested some street-level trams actually has 1 track on 1 road, and the 2nd track on another road (more or less parallel) due to many of the routes having 3 lanes or less only. There were some mentions of elevated trams but Penang… Read more »
zoro
zoro

one track on elevated sttucture one on road. like half bake soln. then to townside on road and balek side on elevated structure. pg forum wants people not in time for work but can go home. early going home

Ken
Ken

Slowly, I start to doubt the real intention of that Penang Forum. Maybe they are too egoistic and never ever to admit any mistake no matter what ?

umno dedak tastes good
umno dedak tastes good

indeed. those ‘porfessionals’ in that ‘Penang forum’ have been trying to sound ‘holier than thou’.

but at the end of the day, their ‘plan’ and unfortunately PTMP too will never see the light of day, thanks to their backstabbing the Penang govmen regarding Sia Boey. when that happens, we know who to ‘thank’. the possibility that this could be their plan all this while could not be discounted too.

Teh
Teh

The pictures shown are no different from those typically depicted in glossy and fanciful pics on condominium brochures, very different in reality.

umno dedak tastes good
umno dedak tastes good

indeed ! have you seen BCF illustrations in its website ? oh the holy BCF, while all those elements of PTMP are vandalised with ‘creative’ street art ! thats an ‘intelligent study’ indeed !

on another note, one wonders whether all that ‘creative’ four-letter graffiti we see everywhere are their handiwork. hmm…

peter pang
peter pang
Is it really feasible to run trams from Batu Feringgi, Gurney Drive, Air Itam, Paya Terubong, Bayan Lepas, Batu Maung and Balik Pulau, and end up at this ridiculously unrealistic TWO LINE “”Hub”” at Komtar? TWO LINES? Seriously? For the ENTIRE Island? And we are not even beginning to talk about the Mainland, But as we all know, Island NGOs could not care less about the Mainland which does not “Exist”. I like to see Anil take a tram from Batu Feringgi to Komtar, so this tram does NOT have to stop at Traffic Lights right? Ok, assuming it does… Read more »
umno dedak tastes good
umno dedak tastes good

indeed. how fast is a slow moving tram coach ? how many passengers can it carry ? how much is the land acquisition ? how many houses and shophouses is PG forum willing to sacrifice ? underground utilities ? traffic flow ?

to this day, this BCF still cant provide the answers, as those behind the plan have yet to have a tram line built right in front of their houses !

oh, and whatever happened to their Sia Boey conservation ? call in the UNESCO ? now they want this at Sia Boey ? what clowns they are !

zoro
zoro

the whole tram system stops if a tram.has an accident with cars kapcais or pedestrians. mata2 will come and investigate taking one to two half hours. with the tram grounded other trams will stop too.

umno dedak tastes good
umno dedak tastes good

yes, and who is to blame when this happens ? the whole line being grounded, employees seeing their salaries fly away with every second ? then the line being dug up for repairs, potentially damaging all the utilities underneath ?

when the dust settles, the people of PG will launch a revolt against CM lim mah kui… or at least kick him out of PG via elections. wakakaka…

Pul Accouth

I dont think its fair for you anil to subject the population of penang to think that your tram is good when in actual fact you have not done in depth study and compared point to point with current State govt plans. You should only voice your dissatisfaction to the Penang State once you have solid evidence that trams can work sustainably. ie. did you pay for the halcrow report? or works of any experienced professional to come up with this idea?

umno dedak tastes good
umno dedak tastes good

thats what happens when a ‘porfessional’ clique thinks they have ALL the solutions for THEIR island.
just 1 clique of a few dozen ‘porfessionals’ with no engineering experience in the midst of 1.6 million Penangites !

Vivica 118
Vivica 118

Penang Forum cannot just rely on anilnetto.com to relay its intentions.

Go for roadshow or may for a start set up an appointment with the public at Esplandae Speakers Corner?

zoro
zoro

recommend tun lang and he is itching for challenges. closer to komtar more fiery his speeches wil be.

Damien
Damien

Stop should not get personal with tunglang and vice versa.

Both sit down peacefully yam seng or yam cha or yam kopi, and agree to disagree or disagree to agree, for the benefits of Penang political preferences aside, to brainstorm for brilliant ideas for implementation since the nation is already in crisis whether there is gold or silver or bronze.

tunglang
tunglang
Today, the Komtar Dedak Addict 2-in-1 worked too hard to do what they are fed to do – character assassination, which has no benefit to any reader but their Tokong. By all accounts of what they spewed, I still think they have not worked harder enough! If they want to question other’s point of view, is it any pain .. to counter with their own views or suggestions? Or it is a pleasure to just throw cat dirts at others which I think so of this 2-in-1 Troll approach. C’mon, Komtar Dedak is not free, why waste by way of… Read more »
umno dedak tastes good
umno dedak tastes good

wakakaka… inilah akibat pemakanan dedak umno yg melampau… dah high sangat sampai tak de ‘fact’ langsung… inilah suara org yg dah menyerah kalah sebab terlalu ikutkan dedak umno sampai kehilangan otaknye !…

umno dedak tastes good
umno dedak tastes good

did you see tunglang coming up with brilliant ideas ?

on the contrary, did you see tunglang lapping up his master ?

tunglang
tunglang

Of course you don’t need to come up with any idea, just wakakakakaka.
Pls try harder another time or your pay master won’t be heard “Ooooh, Aaaaarrrg” loud & clear high above Komtar Walk!

zoro
zoro

there it goes again all the barking. bark at what? not directly related but it show his frusco, granniness, wants to challege and personal issues with komtar.damien have a cuppa with him and tell to go see a heart doc. if he does not lisent, tell to contact vivica and become the SPEAKER of esplande close to State Assembly.

tunglang
tunglang
The problem is the Georgie Bush type of attitude of “If you are not with us, you are against us”, no thanks to the CAT & Bunch of Arrogants of Toeing The Line. Just look at the past incidences of sacking & relegations of “dissidents” within the party. What UBAH is there to hope for a Malaysia Baru? What chance is there for new ideas to challenge obsolete practices (like unsavoury swap deals) is the holy mantra of CAT? This stinking political belligerence already has spread inside the intoxicated brains of minions & trolls. Nothing surprising of worshippers obsessed to… Read more »
zoro
zoro

What talking? you always love bush but now you hate bush of George. Better don’t drive 4w drive you always irrelevant side track off topic. No wonder anil wants a tram for you to stick to the line of tropic

zoro
zoro

i always bring facts. but tun lang bring his personal issues with komtar which he. does want to resolve. like what is the alternatives or solutions for penang if there is no development. he just attack will penang youth continue to stay in layback place or migrate to see the wotld. just look at ipoh. ipoh used to be third largest but now ???

umno dedak tastes good
umno dedak tastes good
tung lang with facts ? *scoff* since when he comes up with facts ? tunglang’s only ‘facts’ are his diatribes against the ‘dictatorial’ PG govmen, w/o realising his discriminatory umno govmen has done worse for almost 6 decades ! or is he just lapping up his master … ? anyway, Ipoh is still not as famous as PG. look at their airport : its nowhere near ours. but of course, thanks to macais like tunglang, PG will run the risk of falling behind JB too (as if KL wasnt enough) ! since tunglang loves lapping his master, maybe he should… Read more »
Andy
Andy
This depiction is very misleading, because right in front of Komtar Walk there’s several shops, branching roads leaving very little space for wide pedestrians + trees as depicted. Also the path where the buses are drawn are perpetually parked with cars and any bus who drove in would have to drive out back to the 4 lane one-way road. Also, why a zebra crossing when there’s already pedestrian bridge nearby? Despite the overly idealistic drawing to show “space”, the route drawn is possible for BRT (but I wonder how many of them are on-level and how many is elevated, there’d… Read more »
umno dedak tastes good
umno dedak tastes good

indeed ! thanks for highlighting these ! trams need to be 2 way for an efficient system. but the drawing only shows 1 ?
an alternative suggestion, they say ! obviously they have no engineering foresight !

gk ong
gk ong

Are the pictures drawn to scale? If not, it could be misleading.

Tan Wee Theng
Tan Wee Theng

The shop lots in front of Komtar Walk belongs to the State Government. They were the very first attempt by this state government to revive the dying Komtar after 2008. I witnessed big trees coming down and concrete structures going up just a few years ago. The effort unfortunately has not been successful. Most of the shop units are still vacant today. It should not be an issue for these shop units to make way for BRT.

tunglang
tunglang

Yesterday, I saw a row of trees (more than 10?) next to & after 24hr McDonald & Caltex (if one is travelling towards Farlim) along Lebuhraya Thean Teik cut down to no leaves leaving just the sticking out branches!
What the hell is happening to Greener Penang?
Is this called tree pruning the easy & faster way out by contractors (no MBPP staff involved)?
Hills are botak-ed. Now trees are also “botak-ed”.

zoro
zoro
First time you see botak trees? Trees in Penang have been clear since Francis light and chinese come to Penang. Even the house where you stay, trees have been cleared. You better go and tell Penang forum to preserve trees by staying in tree tops. Ask think city to design tree top houses. Apart from heritage city, Penang forum can make Penang renown as treetop city too. Next step, go and swing from tree to tree. No need cars and is faster to as one travels in air. Better than Tony’s everyone can fly. It will be tun lang’s everyone… Read more »
zoro
zoro

thank you for facts. tun lang can only barks and wags. only generalisation. and events happen one in 100 years.

Tan Wee Theng
Tan Wee Theng

Has Penang Forum been successful in drawing out SRS Konsortium to debate this matter? Is SRS Konsortium still hiding in some tokongs somewhere?

zoro
zoro

debate which topic? topic in this caption is cheaper faster and better. less is clearly cheaper. but … how can it be faster when it is a shared road. better? tell us why it is better?

Tan Wee Theng
Tan Wee Theng

If the Centre of Universe is still not convinced, there is an old Uncle Lim to check out the history. Old Uncle Lim should still remember the sentiment behind Lim Chong Ewe’s defeat in 1990. It was the cumulative stress during the construction of KOMTAR leading up to 1990. I am not for a moment suggesting that one comes close to the caliber of Lim Chong Ewe whom Penangites have badly missed.

zoro
zoro
What is caliber of LCE compare to LKY? We are plain lucky. China was closed bamboo curtain. Vietnam in civil war, who wants to go invest in Thailand, Cambodia and Laos close to Vietnam. But singland was the hottest spot with skill and cheap labour on industrialisation. There is a spillover effect as singland unable to cope with the investors. Penang just tail along … and try to take a bite too. But now things change. There are better hunting ground for investors with china, Vietnam, thailand, Cambodia, Bangla, Sri Lanka and Indonesia. We are relegate to this third world… Read more »
umno dedak tastes good
umno dedak tastes good

awak ade “substance” ? substance ape ? dadah ? dedak umno ?

inilah suara seorang yg telah menyerah kalah. wakakaka…. dah habis “substance’ dia tu ! dlm otaknye pun tak de ! tuan awak mesti terlupa bagi awak dedak pulak tu !

awak jeles terhadap Singapura, tunglang ? kesian… awak tak dapat cari dedak umno di SG ke ? suruhlah tuan awak bagi !

betul tu ! “some (not all) people also benefitted”. siapa yg “some” tu ? org kaya yg beli kondo di sebelah pantai yg ditebus ? perompak ? pencuri kereta ?

tunglang
tunglang

Have you not sang the Singapore national anthem this August 9th?
Oh yes, our national anthem is not so ‘advanced’. Bo bin-chui mah!
Now, development for the nation must have a SingLand hand in it. Never mind Ringgit will continue to be repatriated to down under island.
See Johor. Now some (not all) people also benefitted…
Still not sang the Singapore national anthem yet?

tunglang
tunglang

When there is no substance, wakakakakakaka till the parrot comes home!
When no idea … let’s sing a song!
Such a troll, I have my sympathy for them.
Maybe they haven’t try harder as expected from Komtar Dedak feeding.

umno dedak tastes good
umno dedak tastes good

‘gratitude’ ? marilah kita sama2 menyanyikan lagu “Terima Kasih Kucapkan Padamu” ! hu-hu-hu-hu-hu-hooo….

terima kasih umno, sebab mengambil banyak cukai dari PP tapi tak bersemangat bangunkan PP langsung !

Tan Wee Theng
Tan Wee Theng

LKY who? What had this LKY done for Penang? Most of us feel grateful to LCE. The ability to feel gratitude is an attribute of a human being.

Tan Wee Theng
Tan Wee Theng
Zoro, forgive me if I am wrong but I am under the impression that you and some of your friends here are under instruction to thumb down Penang Forum. Please convey a few simple messages to your Center of Universe. 1. Never destroy the fengshui of your bedrock 2. When one drink, one has to remember the source of the water 3. Remember the battle cries, Tanjong 1, Tanjong 2, Tanjong 3? It is Tanjong, my friend, that the Centre of Universe is now messing with. You may label it as inevitable development but is it for the betterment of… Read more »
umno dedak tastes good
umno dedak tastes good
wah ! cakap bikin hebat ya, org umno ni ! fengshui sana sini pulak tu ! kalau awak suka sangat fengshui, bukalah kedai fengshui awak ! bukalah francais di semua tempat, di KL ke, JB ke, SG ke… wakkaakaka… feng shui hebat konon… jambatan berlapan di Komtar jugak boleh memberikan feng shui bagus kan ? oh punca air… kat mane ye ? Teluk Bahang ? Air Itam ? Sungai Muda di Kedah ? ada 3 Tanjung ? ade banyak lagi Tanjung lah, aduhai… geografi engkau dah gagal ke ? Tanjung Bungah, Tanjung Tokong, Tanjung Malim, Tanjung Pelepas… dan jugak Tanjung… Read more »
Tan Wee Theng
Tan Wee Theng

You have my sympathy.

zoro
zoro

Anil, why “tram” was censored?

Tan Wee Theng
Tan Wee Theng
Shared Road? Zoro, my friend, please think it through. LRT and monorail need elevated tracks. These tracks do not just float on air. They need heavy structures and large column supports. Where are these hugh and ugly structures and columns going to be built? I am afraid they will be built right in the middle of our narrow Georgetown roads. They will permanently occupy (not sharing but occupy) the road 24/7 for the next few decades. Have you ever been to KL downtown? When you go there next time, please spend some time to study the LRT and Monorail in… Read more »
umno dedak tastes good
umno dedak tastes good
jadi ? adakah trem awak gunakan kurang ruang ? adakah ini menjawab soalan tadi ? mungkinkah trem tu akan menimbulkan masalah trafik ? kereta kena henti utk trem ke atau trem kena henti utk kereta ? macam mane awak hendak gali seluruh jalan tanpa merosakkan kabel2 dan utiliti2 lain di bawah jalan ? kalau trem awak rosak, adakah awak akan menutup seluruh jalan, terutamanya Lebuh Lintang / Jalan Ria ? mungkinkah kesesakan trafik bertambah teruk ? jgn lupa trem ini adalah dari Komtar ke Lapangan Terbang, tau ? berapa cepat trem awak boleh berjalan ? berapa org trem awak boleh… Read more »
zoro
zoro

before seeing the plans you start to fear. then it will remain backward. better remain unchanged but cars are getting more and more. smog can cause cancer. did you see srs plans elevated structures and locations? it defeat public transport if it do not bring close. it need not to be exact but within 10 to 15 min walk.

zoro
zoro

There is no firm alignment. Eg may encounter Francis light bath room or Very poor ground condition that they have to shift. The changes are based on paid according to what is done. MACC is watching for lubangs.

Tan Wee Theng
Tan Wee Theng
Yes, I fear. Somehow, I am not as confident as before. Amazing, what a few years can do to a person. I fear being told the contract has been awarded before we have a chance to view the plan. I fear being told the contract is irreversible, without hefty taxpayer compensation to the contractor. I fear future Penangites have to shoulder a debt which we now have a chance to negate. I fear starring out my window and see elevated rail track running across it. I fear why the contractor with its mighty power has not been asked to get… Read more »
glissantia
glissantia
Cheapest, least disruptive, most flexible infrastructure is roads. Curutiba and other cities have proven BRT beyond any argument for decades. All the proponents of fancy alternatives can do is suppress news of BRT or misrepresent it. It is cheaper by 10-100 times, depending on which mad alternative you opt for. Any excess money can buy buses which are (a) cleaner (b) quieter (c) electric (d) jointed. Or used to employ more staff and pay them instead of cheating and exploiting them. The central issue which all the authorities at all levels skirt is transparency. They try to impose changes as… Read more »
zoro
zoro

tell pg forum. anil and tun lang to pester bn umno gomen to build brt. see fed gomen or bn link will operate it. you want to pay the brt but amno link to operate it. can you get the licence from SPAD?

siaboey boy
siaboey boy

How about a sketch for sampan boats coming in from betty via the penguin canal to complete the Cheng shui of water, earth, wood elements?
The fire element may be tunglang can envisage?

tunglang
tunglang
Fire element? Just a genuine passion (which is fire) for consecration of Penang’s authentic cultures & old world charm, no one can recreate, not even by SingLanders. When there’s passion, anything is possible. But for now, let’s be more wary of a CAT fury that can change the destiny of Penang to God knows what is plastics. Just to share: Chinese tourists are travelling on impulse – to Malaysia! http://www.star2.com/travel/asia-oceania/2016/08/26/chinese-tourists-are-travelling-on-impulse-to-malaysia/ Excerpts: Whilst travellers are expecting good shopping options in many travel spots, other factors play a big role in the final selection. In fact, 56% of this segment are motivated… Read more »
umno dedak tastes good
umno dedak tastes good

yes, and if tunglang wants more nostalgia, bring back the old-style toilets or those tin potty from the old days !

use kerosene lamps instead of electricity !

ban all vehicles except bechas and horse carriages !

bring back those secret societies too !

then we can have a complete, old town Penang for everyone to yum-cha, shake legs and enjoy !

zoro
zoro
The tram has to clink and clink, stop and accelerate. Pedestrians have to look for trams and vice versa. How come pg forum never mentions about trams in Hong Kong and Sydney? Or pg forum does not know they exists? They only show trams in the West thinking West is always no 1. Try taking tram from central in Hong Kong to north point where many hokkien people can’t understand Penang hokkien language. See how long tram takes even they run in the central carriage. Hk tram has a long history and is cheap but no pg forum wants to… Read more »
umno dedak tastes good
umno dedak tastes good
zoro, what a joke this is indeed ! an at-grade tram criss-crossing the busy crowded roads ??? how fast can a tram go ? how does the at-grade tram lines solve the congestion around Sia Boey ? will the traffic have to stop for the trams ? or will the trams have to stop for the traffic ? how much does it cost to dig up the roads and the utilities underneath ? will they close the whole stretch when a line breaks down ? in the end how much will this whole laughing stock of a rolling stock worth… Read more »
tunglang
tunglang

Try harder talking to yourself – … wakakakaka.
How convincing!
More like soliloquy!
What a way to earn more Komtar Dedak due kali ganda!

zoro
zoro

Barking all the time without specific facts. Only generalisation drawing rare events make into a big story. Why not draw about missing mas plane. Tell all not to fly or land up like missing persons.

zoro
zoro

Tq for following like a watch dog . A barking dig makes a watch dog.

zoro
zoro
people forget it is only a drawing and an advertisement. asian cities are overcrowded. they never see a real tram ride on one. even if they ride during first few times they focus on the riding. if daily is a chore. go to burke street mall in melbourne or paddy market.and see the dangers. here in asian cities we have to include mat rempits or sh peks on boon siews.any accidents means all the trams in pg have to stop for few hours. then we really need donkey rides. we never learn from ktm is anything happen on the SHARED… Read more »
Calvin Sankaran
Calvin Sankaran
This is the problem with you guys in the Goebbels’ Group. You only been to HK or Singapore and your entire universe revolves around these cities. Penang has a very different character and it has to be preserved to protect our unique heritage and not turn into another over-developed and “Greed-Is-Good” city like HK and SG. The population density and the mindset of the people and the geography is very different. I fully support this low-cost but that is high on sustainability and people-friendliness. You don’t need high speed trains and vehicles in the city centers. Many European cities have… Read more »
zoro
zoro

you are like dicaprio enjoy working in internationak meeting your financiers and doners. you wanr fast on mrt,high speed rail and fast planes as time is money. but you are telling others not to save time? you walk and bicycle in daily life without cars or mbikes? typical bn goon suppressing others. go and tell tun lung throw his 4w and change to husky dog sledge.or donkey cart.

tunglang
tunglang

This is a CAT out of the bag of a Komtar Dedak Addict trolling base on my observation of comments just above.
What a tell-tale sign of a 2-in-1 Komtar Dedak Addict – one after another consecutively commenting & character assassination.
One from (his boss?) office, another … from home. Just look at the time of entries.
Good that Anil programmes his blog so that no one can doppelgänger from the same IP address using different names.

What a waste of bean-counting Tokong’s Komtar Dedak to feed a 2-in-1 Dedak Addict that has no substance but repetition of spinning by 2-time trolling!

umno dedak tastes good
umno dedak tastes good

wakakaka… anda menyerah kalah ? kekurangan dedak ?

sertailah gerakan merah di KL esok, 27 Ogos. dedak adalah percuma !

umno dedak tastes good
umno dedak tastes good

tunglang : woof woof… tuan, boleh bagi saya dedak ? woof woof…

tuan : boleh… tapi hanya lepas ko sertai gerakan merah ku di KL esok. jgn tak datang ya !

tunglang : woof woof… kenapa ku mesti datang ? woof woof

tuan : ko tak suke dedak aku ?

tunglang : woof woof… okie. tak de masalah ! woof woof… dedak 2.6 bilion adalah kegemaranku !

umno dedak tastes good
umno dedak tastes good
PP mempunyai ‘unique heritage and not turn into another over-developed and “Greed-Is-Good” city like HK and SG’ ? jadi bila KL dan SG sedang bergerak ke depan dgn sistem pengangkutan yg lengkap, PP harus berundur ke belakang sebab ‘heritage’ ? kalo awak semua suka sangat heritage engkau tu, jgnlah pakai kereta ! jgnlah pakai tenaga elektrik dan tandas ! biar kita kembali dgn rasa nostalgiknye ke zaman dulu, bila semua org … dlm tong atau tanah, bila lampu kerosin luas digunakan, bila hanya beca saja yg ada. binalah lagi di Dia Boey ! bukankah awak minggu lepas kata Sia Boey… Read more »
David Loman
David Loman
Perhaps slow moving tram is good to slow down the pace of frantic life of modern day? Imagine the good old days when one could spend hours reading newspaper while slowly sipping a cup of morning coffee and dipping their toasted roti on soft-boiled eggs at a kopitiam? The Sia Boey tram station should add such old-styled kopitiam for the Penang Baby Boomers to mingle and be nolstagic of yesteryears. Have a roadside Char Kway Teow (Siam Road franchise) stall so that people could queue for hours and momentarily forget their woes? Also add a branch of the famous Cendol… Read more »
tunglang
tunglang

You want to take us for a donkey ride & spinning?
Pls lah don’t tell us it’s the wild wild west of American clink, clank trains turned trams.
FYI: trams run on electricity, run quietly & safely. If you can’t see them coming, you must be wearing the zoro eye mask!

We are prepared for your next imminent spin: – “TNB will give subsidised electricity while it taxed Penangites higher rate” “hee- haw” and “eeyore.”

zoro
zoro

you want us to donkey and dinkey ride on your 4w drive? you spin around with no answer to hong kong trams. none mention about iconic trams and the solution to public transport. sometimes … bark non stop and appoint self as watch dog and only gelakan has the $¥£€.

tunglang
tunglang

Pls for Venerable Deity’s sake, try harder!
Spinning doesn’t work anymore, much less convince.
Or is it you are hard up for more Komtar Dedak?

umno dedak tastes good
umno dedak tastes good
electricity ? so does LRT ! quietly and safely ? because of its slow-motion ? what happens to the already busy traffic around Sia Boey ? how much will it costs for all those ‘unsightly’ tram pylons and cables ? how fast can it go ? how many people can it carry ? or you expect everyone to just sit there and yum cha, watching time fly away like the good old days ? you may already have your pension and 4WD, but you want their salary to fly away too ??? oh yes ! lets conserve Sia Boey !… Read more »
tunglang
tunglang

After Komtar Dedak chewing, more spinning & character assassination for shiok-sendiri & Tokong exhilaration?
Let the sustainable development option takes place.
Let the businesses flourish.
Let Penangites experience what is Better, Cheaper & Faster alternative.
Nothing to do with my 4WD unless you are bankrupt of applicable ideas & spewing the same stuffs as zoro.
But who already don’t know the 2-in-1 Komtar Dedak Addict trolling here?
Btw, do you actually understand what is sustainable development beyond your shallow wakakakakakaka?

zoro
zoro

All others are not sustainable development. Only yours is sustainable with 4 w drive burning and releasing more C02 into air and cause cancer to others. You are saying you have higher moral than others.

tunglang
tunglang

Anil, pls do it.
2-in-1 trolling creates a lot of noises & distraction from real issue in discussion.
My sympathy to Gerakan, MCA & UMNO for the filth throw at them to spin a twist at a slightest opportunity for political master’s …

umno dedak tastes good
umno dedak tastes good

wakakaka… awak “try harder” lah, tunglang bodoh !

tuan awak tak bagi dedak sama lu ke ? kesian…

Isnin ni 29 Ogos ada perarakan gerakan merah. dedak adalah percuma ! jom !

tunglang
tunglang

Pls lah. How many times have I said: “Try harder”
Sooner, the Komtar Tower Dedak feeding may stop!… C’mon, what other … antics you can offer?

umno dedak tastes good
umno dedak tastes good

inilah akibat pemakanan dedak umno yg berlebihan ! kini sape yg tak de fakta ??

oh, bantah sini bantah sana ! bantah PTMP ! bantah pembinaan Sia Boey ! semuanya utk ape ? tuan awak yg berikan dedak ?

kalo tak bleh jawab satu soalan pun, lebih baik awak diam. sebab org PP bukannye org kampung yg dungu spt awak !

tapi rasanye awak tak bleh diam kan ? awak masih kena menyalak supaya tuan awak bleh dengar ! dah kekurangan dedak ?

sertailah gerakan merah di KL esok, 27 Ogos ! dedak adalah percuma !

umno dedak tastes good
umno dedak tastes good
maaf. terlupa pulak aku ni. kena terjemahkan dlm BM pulak. aku bimbang org kampung spt ko tak paham bahasa England sepenuhnya ! wakakaka… tenaga elektrik ? LRT jugak sama ! senyap dan selamat ? sebab tram bergerak perlahan ? berapa ramaikah org yg boleh satu koc tram ambil ? ataupun awak nak semua org duduk, minum teh dan lihat betapa cepatnya masa berlalu… wakakaka… kamu mungkin dah ada pencen dan 4WD, tapi macam mane dgn org lain ? tak perlu cari nafkah ke ??? duduk dgn senyap dan sabarnye sambil melihat gaji mereka terbang bersama dgn masa… betul tu !… Read more »
Tan Wee Theng
Tan Wee Theng

Hi Anil, please ask Penang Forum to consider putting these sketches up as posters in front of MBPP Concourse at Komtar 3rd floor to make sure our Mr Lim wont miss them and has a chance to comment on them.

Tan Wee Theng
Tan Wee Theng

I like what I see. Over to you, SRS Konsortium. What say you?

tunglang
tunglang
Greener, clean, simple, practical & sustainable model. Easy to retrofit in the future to meet increase demand. And of course cheaper to begin with, without the bin-chui factor for Cosmo-Gaya = Mahal = Pok Kai (in the short run). I would love it more if cycling is add to the equation: cycle lanes & parking spaces, cyclists’ wash rooms, & subsidised take>ride>return public bicycle utility. As for cooling the atmosphere, how about adding fountains along Pranging Mall frontage? And to add an atmosphere of old world charm, have traffic wardens dressed in prewar khaki uniforms at the 2 junctions of… Read more »
Calvin Sankaran
Calvin Sankaran

I agree on the cycle lanes and facilities. In fact I would even go to the extent of banning cars in the city center and making it open only for public transportation and commercial vehicles to transport goods.
I like the idea of a Dissent Corner…..

zoro
zoro

tell dbkl to turn petaling street into a pedestrian mall unless you want to wait for another 4 years for your title

zoro
zoro

why no praise for mppp making cycle lanes and condemn bn lead councils for not doing anything at all. sori forget you are under bn payroll.

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