The new Free Malaysia Today portal has a scoop about Zaid Ibrahim ‘smoking the peace pipe’ (figuratively-lah) with Hindraf chairman P Waythamoorthy in Singapore.
K,
Your attempts to swing support back to BN are so lame there isnt any need for rebuttals. In fact they reaffirm my believe on why BN needs to go. There is no place in the future for people who still talk indian, chinese ……..
We can agree to disagree but this is my response. If your agenda is only on race and religion than your you are no different from UMNO, MIC or MCA which are racist by default due to their membership requirement.
HINDRAF initial point is to gain publicity and which it did very well and all PR parties jumped behind it like good politician will. Kudos to them because now we can sit here and argue about it and give BN a run for their money. Dr Zaid was dispatch because he was seen to be neutral to all parties and he have the best view as an outsider before and still act like one. I have my doubts about DSAI but my doubt on our current BN leaders are much more because some comes down to criminal case and all the lies and jokes they make about serious issues. All these leave bad taste in my mouth.
If you think you meed to go with BN that is great but at least put up some good argument to convince me not based on assumptions. For heaven sake BN is not government they are just a political party with serious problem and bad for Malaysia.
The MIC should be actually thankfull to Hindraf because UMNO has taken mic for granted all this while.Let me show you a good example….
After the last GE the indians where rewarded with the DCM post in Penang.The indians where given the speaker post again in PERAK.(Wheather the DCM is a good performer is another story,ok)Under BN when all the indians must be united under MIC as claim by samy we can only dream for this post.I still remember when Samy Vellu Beg for a exco post for mic in Pahang he was rebuked by ADNAN before the last GE.I also understand this same samy is responsible for losing two full minister post in the cabinet.I again challenge Samy to try and get another speaker post in BN controlled states for indians.
What this shows.IT will bring more benefit to the indian community if there is a strong indian prescence in the oppostion.Any goverment based indian party can preform better in this scenerio.Am i right.
The need for Hindraf and Uthayakumar’s party, Human Rights Party, I hope I am correct, is to work together urgently and fast.
Sometimes to be frank, we need to give the PR led
Governments a chance. While there is a need to bring up injustice, as the case of the five killed in shootout with police in Klang, recently, we cannot really blame the PR for not bringing up the matter, as they will be viewed unfavourably and will be fodder for the BN spin master to capitalise on. Therefore, it is necessary for Uthaya’s party to formalize relations quickly and to fight from within. They need good people and badly.
The cause of the rakyat will be taken care of with enough manpower, I mean, committed people like Uthaya. It is easy to always point a finger at every mistake the Governments made, but this was exactly the scenario, when the PR were in the opposition. Really, the shooting of the five is very sensitive for the PR to fight for, as according to police reports, the five were held in Simpang Renggam before. Please excuse me if I am wrong because this is what I gather from the MSM.
Whether they were in Simpang Renggam or not, is irrelevant, as the killings really should be avoided. Therefore the need for Human Rights Party to join the PR and fight the cause from within. I am sure capable people like Uthayakumar will do a lot for Human Rights in Malaysia.
Come on, Uthaya, time to act on your part. We need you to fight together and not to point at us each time an injustice is committed. Together we can make a difference.
Uthaya, the need for your party and you to join PR and to look into injustice meted out to the Rakyat is compelling!
Join a platform where you can carry your reform and Human Rights activities more effectively. There is no time for you to further delay your next move. The Rakyats voice for you to fight on a more effective platform instead of criticizing the PR for non action is now deafening! While it is good if you can fight on the PR flatforms and addressed all shortcomings of the Rakyat from within, we leave it totally to your discretion as to which platform you wish to fight on. The issue is there is a compelling need for you to do so. Act Now and be relevant to the Rakyat, Uthaya.
Anwar need to ensure that Malay and Indian voters still stick to Pakatan. Or else the DAP will emerge the only party with the most seats in Parliament as in Tanjong 2 where the party won 80% of Chinese votes.
Did not realized that you are back again. I am glad that you are back again with your comments…….. Haha
Whatever you said about your knowledge about Indian democracy and so forth, is not worth my 2 sen, as self praise is no praise, but cannot blame people with your mentality…… you are used to being praised by people who want to make you happy with what you wish to hear. But unfortunately, in this blog or whichever blog you are in, you seem to be the only one with your own mind set.
Your analysis of events are just illogical and carry no water. Feel sorry that you are the favourite punching bag of all those who care to post their comments here. So, you can very well see, you are a pretty smart fella…… right?
It is ok, K, you are extremely knowledgeable about Indian democracy, but, unfortunately, you look it from the Malaysian point, sorry, obsolete point of views of your politcal master, that is why you are almost wiped clean throughout the country. Cannot blame them, if they still harbour hopes of winning with people like you……..
Let me assure that you can think whatever you want about my knowledge of Indian democracy and political dynamics, for I’m neither interested nor they have any impact on me.
Just because some people here (who could be the same person posting under different names, from the language this is rather appparent) who disagree with me, it doesn’t make my points wrong.
It is not my points are illogical but on the contrary it is the PR cheerleaders and cybertroppers are being blinded by their misguided by their abjact loyalty to their political masters rather than be guided by their intellect and a sense of fairness and justice.
This mule-headed and partisan thinking is the one which is making the country taking the self destructive path of other democracies like Thailand and India, for example.
To be a progressive and mature nation, we Malaysians need to get rid of this petty partisan politics and focus on the bigger interests of the country.
Hindraf is a failure..the benefactor of the hindraf’s efffort was PKR n DAP.
Hindraf Leaders are lawyers who thinks too much about rule of law in human rights lacks strategy, experience and the shrewdness of politicians like anwar , kit siang and guan eng.
Its would better for Hindraf Leaders to behave like PR Leaders who are … cunning!!!!
… HRP Information Chief, S. Jayathas posting in HRP today 15/11/2009, regarding a posting (about the circumstances surrounding the) lady who tried to commit suicide together with her children. … such irresponsible postings cannot be accepted and tolerated! It is naked and irresponsible lies if the Malaysiakini version of the news of the above incident is correct. No, HRP, has had its credibility seriously damaged and questioned by this questionable posting. They can be absolutely irresponsible, this group of people that is.
Should PR work with such irresponsible rascists? No support for such people who are worst than the worst can ever be!!!!!
K,
Your attempts to swing support back to BN are so lame there isnt any need for rebuttals. In fact they reaffirm my believe on why BN needs to go. There is no place in the future for people who still talk indian, chinese ……..
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Dear K
We can agree to disagree but this is my response. If your agenda is only on race and religion than your you are no different from UMNO, MIC or MCA which are racist by default due to their membership requirement.
HINDRAF initial point is to gain publicity and which it did very well and all PR parties jumped behind it like good politician will. Kudos to them because now we can sit here and argue about it and give BN a run for their money. Dr Zaid was dispatch because he was seen to be neutral to all parties and he have the best view as an outsider before and still act like one. I have my doubts about DSAI but my doubt on our current BN leaders are much more because some comes down to criminal case and all the lies and jokes they make about serious issues. All these leave bad taste in my mouth.
If you think you meed to go with BN that is great but at least put up some good argument to convince me not based on assumptions. For heaven sake BN is not government they are just a political party with serious problem and bad for Malaysia.
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The MIC should be actually thankfull to Hindraf because UMNO has taken mic for granted all this while.Let me show you a good example….
After the last GE the indians where rewarded with the DCM post in Penang.The indians where given the speaker post again in PERAK.(Wheather the DCM is a good performer is another story,ok)Under BN when all the indians must be united under MIC as claim by samy we can only dream for this post.I still remember when Samy Vellu Beg for a exco post for mic in Pahang he was rebuked by ADNAN before the last GE.I also understand this same samy is responsible for losing two full minister post in the cabinet.I again challenge Samy to try and get another speaker post in BN controlled states for indians.
What this shows.IT will bring more benefit to the indian community if there is a strong indian prescence in the oppostion.Any goverment based indian party can preform better in this scenerio.Am i right.
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The need for Hindraf and Uthayakumar’s party, Human Rights Party, I hope I am correct, is to work together urgently and fast.
Sometimes to be frank, we need to give the PR led
Governments a chance. While there is a need to bring up injustice, as the case of the five killed in shootout with police in Klang, recently, we cannot really blame the PR for not bringing up the matter, as they will be viewed unfavourably and will be fodder for the BN spin master to capitalise on. Therefore, it is necessary for Uthaya’s party to formalize relations quickly and to fight from within. They need good people and badly.
The cause of the rakyat will be taken care of with enough manpower, I mean, committed people like Uthaya. It is easy to always point a finger at every mistake the Governments made, but this was exactly the scenario, when the PR were in the opposition. Really, the shooting of the five is very sensitive for the PR to fight for, as according to police reports, the five were held in Simpang Renggam before. Please excuse me if I am wrong because this is what I gather from the MSM.
Whether they were in Simpang Renggam or not, is irrelevant, as the killings really should be avoided. Therefore the need for Human Rights Party to join the PR and fight the cause from within. I am sure capable people like Uthayakumar will do a lot for Human Rights in Malaysia.
Come on, Uthaya, time to act on your part. We need you to fight together and not to point at us each time an injustice is committed. Together we can make a difference.
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Uthaya, the need for your party and you to join PR and to look into injustice meted out to the Rakyat is compelling!
Join a platform where you can carry your reform and Human Rights activities more effectively. There is no time for you to further delay your next move. The Rakyats voice for you to fight on a more effective platform instead of criticizing the PR for non action is now deafening! While it is good if you can fight on the PR flatforms and addressed all shortcomings of the Rakyat from within, we leave it totally to your discretion as to which platform you wish to fight on. The issue is there is a compelling need for you to do so. Act Now and be relevant to the Rakyat, Uthaya.
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Anwar need to ensure that Malay and Indian voters still stick to Pakatan. Or else the DAP will emerge the only party with the most seats in Parliament as in Tanjong 2 where the party won 80% of Chinese votes.
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Hallo! K,
Did not realized that you are back again. I am glad that you are back again with your comments…….. Haha
Whatever you said about your knowledge about Indian democracy and so forth, is not worth my 2 sen, as self praise is no praise, but cannot blame people with your mentality…… you are used to being praised by people who want to make you happy with what you wish to hear. But unfortunately, in this blog or whichever blog you are in, you seem to be the only one with your own mind set.
Your analysis of events are just illogical and carry no water. Feel sorry that you are the favourite punching bag of all those who care to post their comments here. So, you can very well see, you are a pretty smart fella…… right?
It is ok, K, you are extremely knowledgeable about Indian democracy, but, unfortunately, you look it from the Malaysian point, sorry, obsolete point of views of your politcal master, that is why you are almost wiped clean throughout the country. Cannot blame them, if they still harbour hopes of winning with people like you……..
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PR Man
Let me assure that you can think whatever you want about my knowledge of Indian democracy and political dynamics, for I’m neither interested nor they have any impact on me.
Just because some people here (who could be the same person posting under different names, from the language this is rather appparent) who disagree with me, it doesn’t make my points wrong.
It is not my points are illogical but on the contrary it is the PR cheerleaders and cybertroppers are being blinded by their misguided by their abjact loyalty to their political masters rather than be guided by their intellect and a sense of fairness and justice.
This mule-headed and partisan thinking is the one which is making the country taking the self destructive path of other democracies like Thailand and India, for example.
To be a progressive and mature nation, we Malaysians need to get rid of this petty partisan politics and focus on the bigger interests of the country.
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And the biggest interest is “ CORRUPTION “` that is (plaguing) UMNO which we must get rid off.
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Hindraf is a failure..the benefactor of the hindraf’s efffort was PKR n DAP.
Hindraf Leaders are lawyers who thinks too much about rule of law in human rights lacks strategy, experience and the shrewdness of politicians like anwar , kit siang and guan eng.
Its would better for Hindraf Leaders to behave like PR Leaders who are … cunning!!!!
rgds
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… HRP Information Chief, S. Jayathas posting in HRP today 15/11/2009, regarding a posting (about the circumstances surrounding the) lady who tried to commit suicide together with her children. … such irresponsible postings cannot be accepted and tolerated! It is naked and irresponsible lies if the Malaysiakini version of the news of the above incident is correct. No, HRP, has had its credibility seriously damaged and questioned by this questionable posting. They can be absolutely irresponsible, this group of people that is.
Should PR work with such irresponsible rascists? No support for such people who are worst than the worst can ever be!!!!!
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The way K writes, sounds very much like those I know who are active Gerakan members.
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