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So it’s going to be a straight contest between BN’s Mohd Isa Samad and Zulkefly Mohd Omar of Pas, after the independent candidate failed to find a local seconder.

Malaysiakini reports that the BN and Pakatan crowds were about equally matched, with the BN side thinning out towards the end.

But one eye-witness claims the Pakatan side outnumbered the BN supporters by about five to ten times during a wet morning in Bagan Pinang. The FRU and police kept both sides apart while choppers hovered overhead as usual.

“It must have been demoralising for the BN side.”

A timid group of “Makkal Sakthi supporters” (in BN colours) tried to wade through the Pakatan crowd to get to the BN side but Pas Youth members forced them back amidst much heckling and shouting.

Judging by the respective turnouts, which would give Pakatan the edge, in the end, much would depend on the “postal voters” – and of course the money being spashed around.

If you were there, perhaps you could share your impressions of nomination day in the comments below or tell us what you think of the by-election as a whole.

  88 Responses to “Large crowds for Bagan Pinang nomination”

  1. I was wrong about BN not taking the quietly forced retirement of the Armed Forces Chief of Staff into consideration. Najib announced that Port Dickson will be made an Army Town. I do not know what this really means. I supposed this is a (sweetener) to the Army personnel living there.

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  2. madam gerakan k,pls take note 51 yrs of beend umno control is over,gerakan is too small a fly in the eye of armno. gerakan ex exco told me personally, in exco meeting armno exco said ‘yes’ ,mca, gerakan,mic all had to agree and said ‘yes’.what is the point of voting for beend.i am a gerakan member,i still think pr can do better, let us give pr a chance.51 years is enough for bn to end.stand up to be mr gerakan k .

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  3. Looks like PAS is going to win with a small majority, unless there is some manipulation. The ground support is all out for PAS.

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    • Karma,
      It’ll go either way. But 2 important news that would sink ISA

      1) UMNO has declared that they don’t have to be generous in terms of seat arrangment. Gerakan has submitted thir candidacy plans for GE13. Muhyiddin told Gerakan to back off. By the way, no news on the torn Koh Tsu Koon’s picture. Plus, I am definitely sure Ahmad Ismail that Bukit Bendera division chief might stand for elections after his suspension. ISA Samad is one good example

      2) ISA Samad declared that he’s the MB as compared to Nik Aziz. So you see some malay votes would sway to PAS. Plus, Mohammad Hassan would be at risk of being the bygones MB if ISA comes in

      To Mohammad Hassan, To be or not to be. To support or not to support. This is gonna be fun. Isa chosen, there would be clashes between Hassan & Isa. UMNO (could) be more extremists. In the end, … people like K or even Gerakan K would be rolled over. Come on, UMNO has always on the principle that if these people of no value, just discard them

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    • Stop make accusation without any proof. I can also say that there is manipulation from PR camp. Just recognize that Bagan Pinang is BN strong hold like BN recognizes Permatang Pauh is PR strong hold. The postal voters are not brainless people. They have their on thought.

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      • tell me, whats your stand on Ahmad Ismail’s remark that we are all “pendatang”? I’m no racist but your party blatantly uses race as a calling card…

        Come on boy, we all wanna know. After all, it was made in the dominant party of BN. You tell me Gerakan K

        What happened to the People’s Movement Party that was supposed to unite all races in Malaysia? Did you guys achieve that?

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        • He has been punished by UMNO. What do you want? We simply can’t hang him because of this offence, mind you. We need to follow rule of law.

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          • “He has been punished by UMNO…..We need to follow rule of law.”

            Where is the Sedition act which pass by most of the BN law maker?

            Only punished by UMNO and he can outlaw, this is the BN style of rule of law.

            No wonder we have so many back door minister now days….

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          • dear Y, yes in this case, the AG has acted smart. Charging him with sedition even can escalate the tension caused. KTK even acted smarter by play down the impact so the tension can be defused. What is so big deal about his picture being torn? KTK is a real leader that can tolerate dissent.

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  4. Gerakan K

    Obviously you are one of the BN supporter and I respect that. However, to quote from The Star is not really credible because it is owned by one of the political party in BN.

    Also, if the economy is so great what is the cost of daily produce when compared to income for an average Malaysian (pardon me not 1Malaysia like our beloved PM trying to drive home which is a waste of tax ringgits). How much the average has grown when compared to price for produce. If you can run that number and spin it positively than response if not please go away quietly.

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    • What are you talking about? Job vacancy advertisement also need credibility? Are you mean that The Star publishes fake job vacancy advertisement? Please put some substance to your comment. The Star is a listed company, and I will never believe The Star will ever publish faked job vacancy advertisement.

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      • Job vacancies are legitimate. But it doesnt matter. When big bosses in USA ask to shut down, they shut down and move out.

        BTW. Speaking of job market and economy, answer this:

        Let us look at the differences between salaries earned, the cost of a vehicle and a house between 1973 and 2009.
        YEAR increase
        1973 2009
        1.3 liter Japanese Car 7,000 60,000 8.5
        Double Story House 45,000 300,000 6.6
        Engineer Salary 1,000 2,000 2

        52 years of your BN rule led to this. And you tell me the economy is good. You have been blinded by your political masters.

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        • Salary is commensurate with qualification, experience and the status of the company offering the job. Interpersonal skills and proficient in English also important. There is nothing to do with BN government. Why people don’t study hard during school time and blame BN government instead?

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        • You as die-hard supporter of LGE, what is your stand regarding to LGE’s refusal to declassify all exco minutes and recordings related to Kg Buah Pala? Do you believe LGE trying to coverup its own mistake or even abuse of power?

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          • If LGE made a mistake, then he should be held accountable for it. If he does not declassify, then we will suspect he made a mistake and I will await and apology. Will Koh Tsu Koon be held accountable for destroying Gurney Drive, blatantly breaking construction laws in Tanjung Bungah and such? What about the Jelutong highway and the PGCC?

            Not blame the BN government for lack of qualification? Dude, BN has been butchering our education system for 52 years. Just look at Singapore where everyone speaks English! Government policies do matter. Dont be ignorant. Remember the BM-English-BM flip flop? Pakatan never ruled Malaysia so we didnt do anything to ruin it.

            Though people have to study hard, the content of what they study is important. You can protect your party all you want, but look at the investment outflows. Look at the international debt. Look and the devaluing Ringgit compared to the Singapore Dollar.

            Is this what you call responsible governing?

            You were chosen by the people to govern (manage) the country not rule the country. As China grows stronger, we’ll continue losing billions in investment as long as cronyism isnt eradicated.

            Dont you dare deny all this, that will be you fooling yourself.

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  5. People,
    Just read Malaysia Insider’s article

    http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/index.php/malaysia/39464-the-growing-irrelevance-of-umnos-partners

    I do wonder if people like Gerakan K gonna sleep over this. I hope that such people are not part of leadership. Blind shepherds leading blind sheeps. All fall into the pit hole

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    • Looes74, while you keep whacking me, how about the following question that I posted. No single PR supporter able to respond to my question. See following:

      ————————-
      I think LGE has something to hide in this Kg Buah Pala issue. Reason:

      1)LGE refuse to declassify minute/recording of exco meetings (I mean all, including KTK’s time). Can some PR supporters tell me why? To cover up any malicious decision/directive towards the residents?

      2)Because LGE refuse to declassify these important information (as condition for debate by KTK), LGE has a reason to avoid debate with KTK. Is LGE a coward?

      3)LGE refuse to meet with Kg Buah Pala residents provided they do not bring along a lawyer. What is LGE intention?
      —————————

      KPI for C.A.T = Failed!

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  6. Gerakan K,

    I think BN is doing right by sending Isa as a candidate. He is the best in UMNO. The best in BN as well. Although he is involved in money politic, but he simply the best and most clean among UMNO and BN.

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  7. If you old enough, you will know Isa is experienced politician and administrator. He also very popular in that area. As PM Najib said, he has been punished and even criminal should be given a chance. LGE also ex-convict, mind you.

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  8. U really nuts, u dont even understand. Isa is just punished by a ban, MACC didnt charge him for such a big case which declared guilty, conpare with Teoh Beng hock based on Rm 2k+ was interogated (- and later found dead). Toyol with a mansion by his income as an MB even with x10 times (probably) could not effort such a mansion also nothing done to justice. LGE fought for justice end up in jail. if u dont know keep you … mouth shut

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  9. Just remember …
    Who (snatch) dead body upno or pas
    who call other pendatang upno or pas
    the lines goes on..

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  10. “Gerakan K,

    I think BN is doing right by sending Isa as a candidate. He is the best in UMNO. The best in BN as well. Although he is involved in money politic, but he simply the best and most clean among UMNO and BN.”

    The cleanest (of the lot), eh?

    Funny then that even you previous … Mahathir Mohammad, can’t stand Isa Samad’s …

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  11. I must say that Gerakan K definitely is an intriguing character with time at his disposal as he continues his psycho battle relentlessly for whomever he/she serves. Frankly,no difference to me whether it is BN or PR supporter as long as the truth surfaces.

    My fascination is why do most commentors are perturbed by this character and tend to get into a virtual fist fight with this character. Naturally we are emotional and tend to defend our individual stand for whatever we chose to do minus the facts, issues in hand for the community. Just like our sibling, all five fingers are never alike but there is always compromise and understanding.

    Let him/her be, we should just state our facts and issues in hand and how we can work around it so that the public is at peace with each other. Witch hunting does no good for the public but only increases one’s own blood pressure for someone else’s political agenda minus the truth in the matter.

    How Gerakan K is able to aggravate everyone, is something that concerns me as we the commentors need to understand, that Gerakan K will be whom he/she choses to be, but we the commentors need to be more subjective in a collective manner to address issues for the truth and fairness for the community.

    Someone without a nuance of conscience and morality will eventually wither away. No offense Malaysians, just an observation.

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    • You sounded like a truth hunter. OK what is your stand regarding to my questions over LGE refusal to declassify exco minutes & recordings that related to Kg Buah Pala. Please scroll up, to view my questions posted. Let me hears your subjective opinion.

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  12. y’day Isa interviewed for 1 hr in astro bernama. surprisingly he can give an example of malays and chinese leaving in one kampung(forget the name)at bagan pinang. the situation in this kampung are that chinese having pig farm infront of malay village. but malays can tolerate and live happily. so, what the heck he try to say? why the same level of tolerance not shown during temple demonstration at section 19 in shah alam?

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    • It was due to PAS “Malay majority” concept. Section 19 in Shah Alam is malay majority area. Now you begin to feel the heat when PAS begins to push its Islamic State agenda. Nothing you can do except to back BN in next GE.

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  13. Ok, back to the Bagan Pinang by-election. It’s a by-election to choose between 2 candidates – one, a corrupted ex-MB, and the other one, an honest, capable, hard-working politician. Not sure who the voters will vote for.

    Some people say the ex-MB’s corruption is “technical” … i.e. “not really corruption”, “only money politics within the party”, “already served his sentence so should be given a chance to serve the people” etc. etc. Hmmm …

    Perhaps we can look at it this way. “Money politics” means a person who uses money to buy votes. Where does he get the money from ? Perhaps from some towkays. Where does the towkays get their money from ? Well, they come out with their own money first, and then, when he wins, they will get some “projects” from the state. How much does the state need to pay for those “projects” ? Perhaps 30% above market price. Where does the state get money to pay for those projects ? From taxes. Who pays taxes ? The Rakyat.

    So it starts with money politics in UMNO … and it ends with money coming out from the Rakyat’s pocket.

    So it’s not just “technical” and it’s not just “within the party”. It affects us all. On a wider scale, it affects the overall economy. It affects our competitiveness.

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    • How do you know Pas candidate is of honest, capable, hard-working politician? You assume too much or generalized Pas member as such. Any achievement so far? Unlike Pas candidate, BN candidate is an ex-MB and full of administrative skills and experiences running the state. Vote BN to ensure no beer ban such as in Selangor.

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  14. Gerakan K stand for Gerakan kuku ? or Gerakan Kalah ?or Gerakan Kiasu ? Don’t use the Gerakan shameful lah! Remember the back door minister !

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    • Why you are ignoring contribution made by Gerakan for Penang? Why always harping on backdoor minister? I believe as long as the minister able to do his job well and thus serving the people and country, I see no problem being a backdoor minister. I see KTK perform well until he has to manage another minister.

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  15. I suspect this Gerakan K is actually secretly planted by DAP to deliberately say stupid things so that more and more people come to the defence of PR. The way he is arguing (pretty mindlessly, I must say) is seriously damaging the image of Gerakan and making it a laughing stock.

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  16. Aiyoh… people! Just ignore this Gerakan K character. He’s just here to make you all worked up like hell. And let’s just leave him/her with his/her views and we have ours. Besides, this is freedom on the Internet, right? Where one has the right to express his/her own opinions. However, we can’t get that from the mainstream media, as they are pro-BN for sure. So, after being fed with years of 1-sided information, one would feel like wanting to throw up, right? I myself included. Thus, this biasness have given rise to blogs and alternative news media on the Internet. So, I have to thank the biasness from the mainstream media for the situation we are in now. If it wasn’t for them, blogs offering alternative views would not have surfaced. Not even RPK’s blog or Haris Ibrahim’s blog would have existed in the 1st place.

    Anyway, back to the issue of Gerakan K, I respect his/her views, but that doesn’t mean I agree to what he/she says. I have my own viewpoints as well. And as far as I’m concerned, ‘The Moon Represents My Heart.’ If Gerakan K tries to implement fear into our minds about PAS, well, I have to say I disagree with what he/she says about PAS. The Selangor beer ban was instigated by Hassan Ali, who is strongly suspected to be an UMNO trojan horse within PAS. PAS have moderate leaders like Khalid Samad, Nizar Jamaluddin, Tok Guru Nik Aziz and many more. They know this country cannot progress with racism. If we know this Hassan Ali character well, we would realise that he doesn’t represent what most PAS leaders actually think.

    If you want to look at the difference between PAS and UMNO, just look at its basis of existence. PAS fights on Islamic principles, while UMNO fights on Malay principles. So, if Gerakan K has the perception that Islam is mainly about hudud laws, then I’m sorry that he has the perception, which is formed from the mainstream media. What is beautiful about Islamic principles is that it fights for equity and justice, and also respect and tolerance for other peoples’ beliefs. A verse from the Quran reminds Muslims never to insult other peoples’ religions, as they will get insults in return if they insult their religion.

    So, basically, most PAS leaders are less susceptible to corruption compared to those UMNO leaders. As I said, just look at the basis of their existence. If I am to choose between a PAS candidate and a BN candidate, I would go for the PAS candidate, as he/she is expected to be honest, approachable, and fair in their judgment. Thus, if I am to vote for an almost-corruption free government, I’ll be happy to give my vote to the PAS candidate, as long they are not susceptible to power and as long their Islamic principles of justice and equity are strong at heart. I mean, I don’t mean to say that all BN leaders are corrupted. I know a few clean BN leaders as well, like Ku Li. I have to admit, Ku Li will always be my all-time favourite BN politician because he is realistic and he is always up to date with the sentiments of the people.

    My point is… as long our current leaders are strong with their respective religion, our government will always have a potential to be clean from corruption. However, seeing our sorry state of the government of today, I don’t know what else to say when some politicians in our country have made money their unofficial religion. And you guys will always know when money politics happen.

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  17. Oh ya, talking about past contributions, I don’t think that Gerakan K is able to differentiate between government and political parties. Who helms the government? Political parties. What is the responsibility of the government? To take care of the people as best as it can. If you fail to take care of the people, the government will be changed. So, do you expect people to remember past contributions by the so-called government of the day? Hell no. The job of the government is to govern, not to rule. We pay tax to the government, and regardless of who is the government, they are expected to take care of our money well and not waste it down the drain. If we feel the government of the day does not take care of our money well, then we can easily kick them out, like in the case of Gerakan in Penang. However, if the DAP-led administration screws up as well, we can easily kick them out as well (at least so far they saved RM36 million in operating expenses, which bodes well for people-friendly projects). The point is, Gerakan K, as long the government, helmed by political parties, do a good job of taking care of the peoples’ money and not let it go down the drain, we will continue voting for them. That is the rule of natural politics, in which, any political party cannot escape from. So, if BN component parties, including Gerakan, do not reform, then I won’t see the majority of people voting back for them anytime soon.

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  18. Please stop making conclusions about hudud or Islamic state.

    I don’t think any local government-owned TV stations have given you this information. All they do is telling the non-Muslims that Islamic law is violent and barbaric.

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