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		<title>By: miwaki</title>
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		<dc:creator>miwaki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 14:56:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These people have no brains,instead of demo against the company,they went against the state government as if it is the state government who is going to evict them.The company Nusmetro Venture is a small company with a paid up capaital of just RM250,000.00.I believe this company doesn&#039;t even have one single staff !

...Send them to hell-lah idiots !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These people have no brains,instead of demo against the company,they went against the state government as if it is the state government who is going to evict them.The company Nusmetro Venture is a small company with a paid up capaital of just RM250,000.00.I believe this company doesn&#8217;t even have one single staff !</p>
<p>&#8230;Send them to hell-lah idiots !
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		<title>By: anna brella</title>
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		<dc:creator>anna brella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 12:42:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perfume Spray, thank you for the info that KBP is outside the UNESCO delineated heritage zoning. 

Even so, if KBP is indeed of historical value to the state, then CM LGE should still be able to take the executive decision to protect it as a local conservation area and put into motion the process to give that decision legal effect asap either through available intra-vires executive powers or through an urgent new state law approved and passed in the Penang Legislative  Assembly.  

Assuming it is true that the Selangor PR government is indeed putting a stop to all its iffy demolitions, then perhaps CM LGE could give MB Khalid a tinkle for some quick guidance and so save time and energy in having to reinvent any new thinking executive wheels perhaps.

Furthermore, in addition to the known constraints of the current legal tussle, bad publicity and the hard moral and highly emotive fact of KBP being housing trust land that is allegedly tainted with an allegation of illegal fraud (in that original strange transaction between the previous state government and the connected civil service cooperative) if the land also has other legal restrictions on it which the developer will have to apply to the current state government for removal, then if I were to be wearing that developer&#039;s shoes, I really would not want to play hard-ball with CM LGE over this matter.

I may instead see the good commercial wisdom and the logical business sense in my negotiating with CM LGE for a face-saving way out for my company to back out of the whole sorry mess of a deal that should never have been entered into in the first place had my company (through its lawyers) first checked out all the salient facts.  

Still in those developer shoes, I may even consider apologising to the KBP residents and people of Penang for all the hassle and then I would call in some competent lawyers and start the process to sue the pants off that civil service cooperative for unmitigated redress of all my company&#039;s losses.

But that&#039;s just me hypothesising again so I can&#039;t tell what thedeveloper company&#039;s CEO/Board may in fact decide to do over this embarrassing, sorry mess. 

&quot;Imagine Power To The People&quot; John Lennon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perfume Spray, thank you for the info that KBP is outside the UNESCO delineated heritage zoning. </p>
<p>Even so, if KBP is indeed of historical value to the state, then CM LGE should still be able to take the executive decision to protect it as a local conservation area and put into motion the process to give that decision legal effect asap either through available intra-vires executive powers or through an urgent new state law approved and passed in the Penang Legislative  Assembly.  </p>
<p>Assuming it is true that the Selangor PR government is indeed putting a stop to all its iffy demolitions, then perhaps CM LGE could give MB Khalid a tinkle for some quick guidance and so save time and energy in having to reinvent any new thinking executive wheels perhaps.</p>
<p>Furthermore, in addition to the known constraints of the current legal tussle, bad publicity and the hard moral and highly emotive fact of KBP being housing trust land that is allegedly tainted with an allegation of illegal fraud (in that original strange transaction between the previous state government and the connected civil service cooperative) if the land also has other legal restrictions on it which the developer will have to apply to the current state government for removal, then if I were to be wearing that developer&#8217;s shoes, I really would not want to play hard-ball with CM LGE over this matter.</p>
<p>I may instead see the good commercial wisdom and the logical business sense in my negotiating with CM LGE for a face-saving way out for my company to back out of the whole sorry mess of a deal that should never have been entered into in the first place had my company (through its lawyers) first checked out all the salient facts.  </p>
<p>Still in those developer shoes, I may even consider apologising to the KBP residents and people of Penang for all the hassle and then I would call in some competent lawyers and start the process to sue the pants off that civil service cooperative for unmitigated redress of all my company&#8217;s losses.</p>
<p>But that&#8217;s just me hypothesising again so I can&#8217;t tell what thedeveloper company&#8217;s CEO/Board may in fact decide to do over this embarrassing, sorry mess. </p>
<p>&#8220;Imagine Power To The People&#8221; John Lennon.
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		<title>By: nb</title>
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		<dc:creator>nb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 11:29:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JoeJambo

This Perfume Spray talked rubbish, Perfume Spray is either stupid or (perhaps) from the gang that benefited from crony system. 

First he/she mentioned some old NST report, but when he/she is asked whether is he/she keeping all old copies of NST, he/she has no asnwer.

Then he/she talked about the land sold is NOT CHEAP under the close crony system, and gave all rubbish figures and excuses to back up the land sold under close crony system is with reasonable price, maybe even so high no other taker/buyer (hahahaha, what a joker).

Now without any proof this Perfume Spray is throwing more accusation at LGE and PR but acting like he/she is neutral and trying to help the victims.

It is impossible to talk reason with stupid people or with the crony gang.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JoeJambo</p>
<p>This Perfume Spray talked rubbish, Perfume Spray is either stupid or (perhaps) from the gang that benefited from crony system. </p>
<p>First he/she mentioned some old NST report, but when he/she is asked whether is he/she keeping all old copies of NST, he/she has no asnwer.</p>
<p>Then he/she talked about the land sold is NOT CHEAP under the close crony system, and gave all rubbish figures and excuses to back up the land sold under close crony system is with reasonable price, maybe even so high no other taker/buyer (hahahaha, what a joker).</p>
<p>Now without any proof this Perfume Spray is throwing more accusation at LGE and PR but acting like he/she is neutral and trying to help the victims.</p>
<p>It is impossible to talk reason with stupid people or with the crony gang.
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		<title>By: JoeJambo</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 02:17:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perfume Spray on July 2nd, 2009 at 7.36pm 

Pls substantiate your allegations as it does carry some weight as to your last comment. If this is true, this would indeed make DAP look morally wrong (only as to the promises but LGE is still right about not paying the compensation).

Remember, you are categorically specifying DAP instead of PKR / LGE or an individual candidate. You may be subject to a defamation suit if it turns out that u are making unsubstantiated libelous statements. Of course, if you know for a fact that it is true (and not relying on 3rd party info), then u r making a huge contribution to supplement what is already known publicly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perfume Spray on July 2nd, 2009 at 7.36pm </p>
<p>Pls substantiate your allegations as it does carry some weight as to your last comment. If this is true, this would indeed make DAP look morally wrong (only as to the promises but LGE is still right about not paying the compensation).</p>
<p>Remember, you are categorically specifying DAP instead of PKR / LGE or an individual candidate. You may be subject to a defamation suit if it turns out that u are making unsubstantiated libelous statements. Of course, if you know for a fact that it is true (and not relying on 3rd party info), then u r making a huge contribution to supplement what is already known publicly.
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		<title>By: Perfume Spray</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 01:35:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps CM LGE could then go one step further for a win-win solution by preserving the KBP land as a heritage site 

Heritage site ?  Whole of Penang can be considered a Heritage Site or Heritage Island by virtue of it being called Prince of Wales Island once . 
And moreover that place is out of the Heritage Zoning .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps CM LGE could then go one step further for a win-win solution by preserving the KBP land as a heritage site </p>
<p>Heritage site ?  Whole of Penang can be considered a Heritage Site or Heritage Island by virtue of it being called Prince of Wales Island once .<br />
And moreover that place is out of the Heritage Zoning .
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		<title>By: Perfume Spray</title>
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		<description>nb  ?? No ....? I may be stupid but I gotta ... unlike you No ... .

If its cheap don&#039;t you think they are other developers who might be interested ? Are you from Penang ? Have you been to the place in question ? If not I am talking to a piece of dead wood .

The issue today is not the price that the previous govt sold to Nuesmero Ventures , but what exactly happened to get the villagers to protest against the DAP and not the BN and Koh Tsu Koon . 
Don&#039;t try to divert the issue to that of the price of the land .
The issue is the villagers knew they have to be vacated before the last GE . They knew the land was sold , how much and to who is none of their business . They knew they had to move and were talking about compensation until someone came along and promised them the moon and the sky . Hello , no need to move , vote for us , when we are the gomen we will make sure the land comes back to you .
That is the issue .
Do you understand or not or do I have to repeat ...! block head .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nb  ?? No &#8230;.? I may be stupid but I gotta &#8230; unlike you No &#8230; .</p>
<p>If its cheap don&#8217;t you think they are other developers who might be interested ? Are you from Penang ? Have you been to the place in question ? If not I am talking to a piece of dead wood .</p>
<p>The issue today is not the price that the previous govt sold to Nuesmero Ventures , but what exactly happened to get the villagers to protest against the DAP and not the BN and Koh Tsu Koon .<br />
Don&#8217;t try to divert the issue to that of the price of the land .<br />
The issue is the villagers knew they have to be vacated before the last GE . They knew the land was sold , how much and to who is none of their business . They knew they had to move and were talking about compensation until someone came along and promised them the moon and the sky . Hello , no need to move , vote for us , when we are the gomen we will make sure the land comes back to you .<br />
That is the issue .<br />
Do you understand or not or do I have to repeat &#8230;! block head .
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		<title>By: nb</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 04:11:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stupid Perfume Spray, 

YES, YOU ARE MORE STUPID THAN I THOUGHT. Lebih bodoh daripada ...

Corrupt government, corrupt political parties and corrupt politicians can win election after election because of STUPID rakyat like you are still around.

NOT CHEAP???? Why there is no open tender, no open auction???? Only stupid people like you will not agree it is cheap and will not push goverment to be more transparent on land sales and tender.  

You sounded like from the group of people who benefited from this corrupt close system. Stop using this Anil website to justify and to prolong the corrupt close system. 

WHATEVER STUPID FIGURES and STUPID EXCUSES that you put up are not going to fool Penang people unless there is a open land sales and tender system.
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Anyone is free to comment here, subject to my discretion. - Anil &lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stupid Perfume Spray, </p>
<p>YES, YOU ARE MORE STUPID THAN I THOUGHT. Lebih bodoh daripada &#8230;</p>
<p>Corrupt government, corrupt political parties and corrupt politicians can win election after election because of STUPID rakyat like you are still around.</p>
<p>NOT CHEAP???? Why there is no open tender, no open auction???? Only stupid people like you will not agree it is cheap and will not push goverment to be more transparent on land sales and tender.  </p>
<p>You sounded like from the group of people who benefited from this corrupt close system. Stop using this Anil website to justify and to prolong the corrupt close system. </p>
<p>WHATEVER STUPID FIGURES and STUPID EXCUSES that you put up are not going to fool Penang people unless there is a open land sales and tender system.<br />
<em><br />
Anyone is free to comment here, subject to my discretion. &#8211; Anil </em>
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		<title>By: ycg</title>
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		<description>I wanted to know what was the &#039;PROMISE&#039; DAP made to Kg Buah Pala residents? Was the promise to &#039;RE-EXAMINE&#039; the issue OR did they promise that they will &#039;SETTLE&#039; and return the land to these residents?

IF DAP said the latter, then i think Guan Eng is digging his own grave. 

IF DAP said the earlier, then i see no foul play or so called broken promises. 

Suppose THIS was the scenario instead: 
BN is the state government. BN sold their land. Residents complaint to BN. BN says no issue. Residents complaint to DAP, DAP say NO issue &amp; not DAP that sold the land. Then what is the residents then going to do come election?? Vote some more BN? 

The way i see it, if the sale is binding and acted within the power of the then CM, whether morally right or wrong, there is little the current administration can do, unless the state govt want to attract mountains of lawsuits which the &#039;judges&#039; will have their field day. To use S76 and buy back the land, yea rite, the developer will definitely want that, you pay premium la...high high premium! for what?! that is exactly what they wanted...money. 

Head you lose your land, Tail you also lose your land, why not walk out with dignity and say NO to BN which should be what GE12 is all about. Let the tale of your LAND be a bold reminder of a once failed government BN! 

instead of buying back the land at high premium, why not CM direct a large traffic or built a Puspakom around the land?? haha...that would surely drive the value down to almost nothing. hahah...

why not let UthayaKumar be the CM for a day? if he thinks the solution is so simple that is to use S76, why not then ask him where does he thinks the money is going to come from, and when the money is paid to the developer, what would happen to the rest of the Penang folks and the development of Penang now that the state Government is broke?? just let Hindraf be the decision maker la.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wanted to know what was the &#8216;PROMISE&#8217; DAP made to Kg Buah Pala residents? Was the promise to &#8216;RE-EXAMINE&#8217; the issue OR did they promise that they will &#8216;SETTLE&#8217; and return the land to these residents?</p>
<p>IF DAP said the latter, then i think Guan Eng is digging his own grave. </p>
<p>IF DAP said the earlier, then i see no foul play or so called broken promises. </p>
<p>Suppose THIS was the scenario instead:<br />
BN is the state government. BN sold their land. Residents complaint to BN. BN says no issue. Residents complaint to DAP, DAP say NO issue &#038; not DAP that sold the land. Then what is the residents then going to do come election?? Vote some more BN? </p>
<p>The way i see it, if the sale is binding and acted within the power of the then CM, whether morally right or wrong, there is little the current administration can do, unless the state govt want to attract mountains of lawsuits which the &#8216;judges&#8217; will have their field day. To use S76 and buy back the land, yea rite, the developer will definitely want that, you pay premium la&#8230;high high premium! for what?! that is exactly what they wanted&#8230;money. </p>
<p>Head you lose your land, Tail you also lose your land, why not walk out with dignity and say NO to BN which should be what GE12 is all about. Let the tale of your LAND be a bold reminder of a once failed government BN! </p>
<p>instead of buying back the land at high premium, why not CM direct a large traffic or built a Puspakom around the land?? haha&#8230;that would surely drive the value down to almost nothing. hahah&#8230;</p>
<p>why not let UthayaKumar be the CM for a day? if he thinks the solution is so simple that is to use S76, why not then ask him where does he thinks the money is going to come from, and when the money is paid to the developer, what would happen to the rest of the Penang folks and the development of Penang now that the state Government is broke?? just let Hindraf be the decision maker la.
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		<title>By: anna brella</title>
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		<dc:creator>anna brella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 20:11:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder what it is that makes anyone anywhere sit on their laurels and think that smart voters - who live within a one-voter-one equal vote democratic system, such as that in place in Malaysia - only have democratic voting choices between sorry political failures or potentially sorry failures when it comes to choosing their governments and political leaders.  

Isn’t it often said that a day is a long time in politics? So perhaps the PR-political folk should wise-up and heed that saying and perhaps try to understand that everyone only gets one chance to make a lasting, good first impression.  Harsh maybe, but apparently, that’s how it is out there in the cold reality of the fast-spinning political world.

KTK and his BN-state government may have created the problem but only the present state government has the required clout and power to help fix the problem. Perhaps it can use any extraordinary powers that may be vested in it to force the Federal Government, as legal trustee, to re-examine the original KBP housing trust land disposal transaction (by the KTK BN-state government) to the civil service cooperative and to either apply for a court order to set aside that suspected fraudulent transaction resulting from potential alleged collusion and “insider dealings” or to compulsorily re-purchase the KBP land from the developer for the same purchase price taht the developer paid to the civil service cooperative vendor. 

If that sale transaction is forced to be set aside, then if the developer purchaser is in reality a bona fide purchaser in law (although this is somewhat doubtful because the developer must have known that the KBP land was housing trust land and so should have double-checked as to whether the civil service cooperative had the power to pass good legal title) it should be able to pursue the civil service cooperative for redress i.e. repayment of the purchase price paid and/or compensation for any reasonable losses connected with that land transaction.

Perhaps CM LGE could then go one step further for a win-win solution by preserving the KBP land as a heritage site and also building good quality low cost housing there for the benefit of the present villagers and also other Penang folk who may now be unable to find good, affordable housing elsewhere to rent or to buy.

Now wouldn&#039;t that be an all singing, all dancing CAT-alytic solution by a strong and people-oriented smart political leader? 

Gee, even cynical me may want to rush in there and vote for such a caring and winning politician! 

“Imagine Power To The People” John Lennon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder what it is that makes anyone anywhere sit on their laurels and think that smart voters &#8211; who live within a one-voter-one equal vote democratic system, such as that in place in Malaysia &#8211; only have democratic voting choices between sorry political failures or potentially sorry failures when it comes to choosing their governments and political leaders.  </p>
<p>Isn’t it often said that a day is a long time in politics? So perhaps the PR-political folk should wise-up and heed that saying and perhaps try to understand that everyone only gets one chance to make a lasting, good first impression.  Harsh maybe, but apparently, that’s how it is out there in the cold reality of the fast-spinning political world.</p>
<p>KTK and his BN-state government may have created the problem but only the present state government has the required clout and power to help fix the problem. Perhaps it can use any extraordinary powers that may be vested in it to force the Federal Government, as legal trustee, to re-examine the original KBP housing trust land disposal transaction (by the KTK BN-state government) to the civil service cooperative and to either apply for a court order to set aside that suspected fraudulent transaction resulting from potential alleged collusion and “insider dealings” or to compulsorily re-purchase the KBP land from the developer for the same purchase price taht the developer paid to the civil service cooperative vendor. </p>
<p>If that sale transaction is forced to be set aside, then if the developer purchaser is in reality a bona fide purchaser in law (although this is somewhat doubtful because the developer must have known that the KBP land was housing trust land and so should have double-checked as to whether the civil service cooperative had the power to pass good legal title) it should be able to pursue the civil service cooperative for redress i.e. repayment of the purchase price paid and/or compensation for any reasonable losses connected with that land transaction.</p>
<p>Perhaps CM LGE could then go one step further for a win-win solution by preserving the KBP land as a heritage site and also building good quality low cost housing there for the benefit of the present villagers and also other Penang folk who may now be unable to find good, affordable housing elsewhere to rent or to buy.</p>
<p>Now wouldn&#8217;t that be an all singing, all dancing CAT-alytic solution by a strong and people-oriented smart political leader? </p>
<p>Gee, even cynical me may want to rush in there and vote for such a caring and winning politician! </p>
<p>“Imagine Power To The People” John Lennon.
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		<title>By: jue</title>
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		<dc:creator>jue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 19:21:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow, there are so many version of what happened in Kg Buah Pala. The only way to know the truth is to have a live face-to-face 3-way dialogue; Team KSK, Team PR &amp; Team High Chaparal residents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow, there are so many version of what happened in Kg Buah Pala. The only way to know the truth is to have a live face-to-face 3-way dialogue; Team KSK, Team PR &amp; Team High Chaparal residents.
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