Comment posted LIVE: BN routs Pakatan in Bagan Pinang by malaysiaku.
We all have to accept and respect the BP voter decision.Their have make a right choice at the right time.PR needs to reorganize and more forward to 13GE.
Malaysian people needs better government to run this country.Think Big and Think Good for the country.We need to save Malaysia from corrupted BN.Next GE13 is our real goal and not bagan pinang.
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Cant wait to know the result. With God’s help Pas will win.
Hope the next by election to be at Selangor – Pandan
Constitute of Ong T K…
LET THERE BE NO INSULT TO RESULTS
While we wait for the official results
Who can we approach with views to consult
With intelligent voters there’ll be none to insult
Let’s hope no one wins too easily by technical default
(C) Samuel Goh Kim Eng – 111009
http://MotivationInMotion.blogspot.com
Sun. 11th Oct. 2009.
End of the day, its PAS–
PAS FOR ALL
8 – 1
anil, postal votes went almost 100% to BN?
I am disgusted and disheartened with the horrid results and am convinced UMNO must have found a full proof method of cheating their way through. A real black eye for RAKYAT Msia!
1. Have you ever stop and wonder that perhaps your party does not represent what the RAKYAT wants?
2. Perhaps your party’s understanding of what the RAKYAT want is actually what your leaders want?
3. People voted for opposition in GE 12 not because opposition is GOOD, CLEAN and POWERFUL but simply because BN was weak.
Ah, an UMNO … speaking. Go back to your hell hole.
We all have to accept and respect the BP voter decision.Their have make a right choice at the right time.PR needs to reorganize and more forward to 13GE.
Malaysian people needs better government to run this country.Think Big and Think Good for the country.We need to save Malaysia from corrupted BN.Next GE13 is our real goal and not bagan pinang.
a blessing in disguise for Pakatan Rakyat..now they will have to work more harder as a team/coalition
in confronting an awaken BN…
to all the DAP adun of NS….
this is a wake up call…
without the Malay vote DAP or PAS is nothing….unless they start engaging/approaching the Malay voters who are the majority in Malaysia..DAP NS will lose all their state seat…
Despair not. I hope Anwar Ibrahim is studying the aftermath of this massacre closely. Now is not the time to play nice. People are fed up of PR instability. Many who swore allegiance to PR in 2008 are beginning to waver.
Do what Raja Petra said. It is now time to be ruthless and dictatorial. Prune PR of the dead branches and thorns in the side. For starters, a stern warning must be given to the troublemakers in PAS that anymore beer or concert antics will not be tolerated anymore.
Next is to (take action against) Zulkifli Nordin who is more and more a liability everyday. Sack the … useless Klang ADUN who has disappeared from thin air. Ask PAS Kelantan to demand the PERKASA frog to return back Pasir Mas and start putting him under intense PAS Kelantan pressure. A stern word or two to the Top 2 PAS leaders also is in order.
Next discipline the DAP troublemakers who for no reason start attacking their coalition partners. Especially Penang DAP has been very arrogant and hot-headed (their behavior reminds me of Ong Tee Keat style). Jeff Ooi must be disciplined severely for his remark on JIM. A stern word to Lim Guan Eng to tone down his confrontational attitude.
Next is your own party PKR full of … lice. Kick all of them out now before they betray you. Clean up the mess in Sabah PKR. Who doesn’t want to play ball sack them and ask them to join back BN. And discipline the undisciplined PKR ruffians in Sarawak please.
If you can do all that, PR will be a stable and respected coalition. Maybe you won’t win the 13 GE but with stability you can plead more time to get your people in governance at the state and local level. 14th or 15th GE is where you should be gunning for victory. Right now PR is just too weak, inexperienced and not enough manpower to takeover federal government in 3 years time. Make it a 10 year project at least.
goldenscreen
the way i see it…Anwar can’t do as what u mentioned.
PR is weak. Anwar is weaker. He is more interested in
jetting around…giving talks. He is just missing…lots
of the time…..overseas….
Maybe ..he shud do that full time…talking & self glorification. What a shame of a fella.
You all forgot one major factor, the Indian voters. There was a complete swing of the Indian votes Out of 1870 Indian votes, PAS only got 483 votes. 1387 votes went the other way. Thanks to kapitan lge and his arrogant and bullying ways. UNless he is thrown out, KBP will continue to haunt PR. DAP must stop being the chauvinist and bullying party and the achilles heel of PR. It is DAP that is going to cause a debacle for PR in the next GE.
How does one know these specific numbers? Isnt my vote confidential?
PR is weak…from the beginning.
308 is a 1 hit wonder.
Congratulation to BN and 1Malaysia.
bn spins that the indians are returning to bn. How do they know that if they are not in cohort with the EC? If it is true then the indians deserve way the they are threated in the pass 50+ years. However I am sure bn will also spin that the chinese are returning to bn too.
This is an expected result and what I had predicted based on input I received from sources in BP. The Pakatan cheerleaders can sit down and cry and point to various alleged evil plots of BN as the cause, but that won’t help to reverse the result, it will help to delude them.
No doubt in the next few days Mkini and Malaysia Insider will be filled with stories on how the BP win was a hollow win or how UMNO now endorses corruption. For now the alternative media will not allude to the “national implications” and “message” of the people of BP unlike what they did to the previous by-elections.
This was not just a thrashing but a … massacre of PR and a slap in the face of PAS and Pakatan.
We need to accept the fact that PR is a fading force and 0308 was just a Perfect Storm rather than a Tsunami. The 0308 will not repeat. Many fencesitters like me who voted for PR will not vote for them again I am sure. Of course as usual the PR Cybertroopers will jump on this and disagree violently but a fact is a fact.
BN now has the Malay, East Malaysia bumi and Indian votes solidly and only needs some of the Chinese votes to regain their former political strength. Even a non-politician like me know that they will exploit the weakest link in Pakatan, ie the fault lines between DAP and PAS. For Pakatan, they are in a no-win situation. If PAS sticks with DAP, BN will use it to kill both of them. If DAP leaves Pakatan, then the Coalition will fall apart.
My prediction is that Pakatan will not survive as a coalition by the next GE. And I would rather not vote that endorsing Pakatan. They have given me no reason to vote for them. As for BN, I will be watching Najib if he walks his talk and deliver on his promises.
Fatimah you said,
3. People voted for opposition in GE 12 not because opposition is GOOD, CLEAN and POWERFUL but simply because BN was weak -CORRECTION because BN is WORST in terms of GOOD and CLEAN in comparison with PR.
BN is still POWERFUL because they form the FEDERAL Govt that controls the funds .
Money talks.
Good and Clean will be compromised, just like a man who would steal to feed his family and himself.
Stay well BN… rule the World
Sorry people need to be a critic. Only a couple of comments in this blog actually means anything. The rest is the typical gibberish.
The same spin either BN/PR is not the issue but we are still in a coconut shell. We the public know the flaws and the mishaps, yet we, the public continue to sing the same song does us no service except to serve our own needs.
For once if we can be truthful to ourselves and seek just irrespective of our origin with our own sacrifice,then we can really see the change that we all desire for a united Malaysian.
You individually shall be the judge for a collective purpose and the mind set can be there if you pursue what is truth and reality in the ground for others besides for our individual self.
Sorry don’t mean to pry but until and when we are truthful to ourself, the community will always be a secondary consideration for the political needs either individually or for whom we serve.
Ai yah, why so surprised People? By-election, so election bought la!
The people already promised to deliver Bagan Pinang back to BN if he fielded Isa, you really cannot lose with 5000 postal votes la! It was a sure win from beginning. The local Malays want him and the Indians are flocking back to UMNO. There were good times with Isa when he was MB, with truck loads of money spreading out from Nilai to PD. His minions were dropped like flies when new MB took over. Let’s see whether Jibby will be squeezed hard enuff to make Isa MB again. It’ll be interesting to see how the new Yam Tuan factors into the new (old) admin if Isa is made MB again.
For the thousandth time ,STOP insulting Bagan Pinang voters for their decision, they decided,
don’t forget ketuanan rakyat.
Listen to the message, stop spinning reasons for the losses,what is required here is a response to the issues not a reaction.
Actually PAS didn`t lost the Bagan Pinang as it was already an UMNO seat. Despite the last tsunami, UMNO was able to held on to it. This election was no different. In fact the Indian and Chinese voting pattern were more or less the same except that some Indian tilted due to the cash pittance they were given at the last moment. The most drastic change is the postal vote in which more than 80% went to UMNO. causing the majorities to rise significantly. As I see it, PAS and Pakatan should not be alarmed as the pattern goes the same way as Batang Ai in Sarawak.
If Najib or UMNO think that there is such a drastic swing, they should not have been afraid to call for dissolvement of the Perak assembly. Their hesitation shows that Pakatan is not so weak as it seem to be.
Yes, PKR must do something about its deteriorating situation. PKR has been delinquent when it comes to discipline. The mantra of “Pakatan does not sweep things under the carpet” under the free-for-all madness for self-flagellation needs to be seriously examined and qualified in its application. When each and every Tom, Dick and Harry can hide under this slogan and display his indiscipline, prejudices, disdain and personal ambition against the coalition’s principles and aspirations and escape scot-free from punishment and rebuke, this is a sign and precursor for the downfall of the coalition.
Let the Pakatan make doubly clear to any individual who crosses the bar of agreed principles of the coalition, no matter how high or important or indispensable that person is in the hierarchy, he should face the disciplinary committee at once and if found guilty should face the axe. Do it and people like Hassan Ali, Choo Wee Keong, Zulkifli Noordin and many trojan horses within Pakatan will think twice before they create more headaches for Pakatan. Do not wait until it will be too late to do anything about it. Do it now and immediately.
The defeat of Pakatan in Bagan Pinang is a blessing in disguise and has never come at a more opportune time because for so long some parties within Pakatan have become indoctrinated and arrogant in their invincibility and belief that no matter what the Pakatan do or will not do will not affect their popularity. For the past 8 by-elections, there were serious dissensions, mostly triggered by some little Napoleons within the Pakatan itself. The belief that the people will always support the Pakatan no matter what is growing thin and Bagan Pinang has provided a valuable lesson.
Wake up, Pakatan: a house divided against itself will not survive the cut-throat political battle in Bolehland.
A small surprise win at the last GE has made the Pakatan supporters and leadership to become too complacent. All those no brainers think the winning of Pakatan at the next GE is a foregone conclusion. In reality it is more complicated than what they thought. If the Kedah MB and the Penang CM still in power, Anwar’s dream of becoming PM will turn out to be a nightmare! Anwar is also a big time disappointment to those who voted for change not the same; he doesn’t seem to provide the needed leadership to stop the Kedah MB and the Penang CM from misbehave. Instead he is (alleged to be) too busy entertaining the ideas of getting rid of Selangor MB! What a big surprise to a lot of political observers!
yeah I agree all must respect the BP outcome. Whatever raesons should be kept within the next BE or GE. Should the result turned the other way round, I think BN would also accept it. So, only Muslims accept what Allah knows best for us.