Comments on: Anwar drops by at the RPK trial (updated) http://anilnetto.com/democracy/human-rights/anwar-drops-by-at-the-rpk-trial/ Let justice flow like a mighty river Sun, 12 Feb 2012 06:53:43 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Dr. Hamid Ibrahim http://anilnetto.com/democracy/human-rights/anwar-drops-by-at-the-rpk-trial/comment-page-2/#comment-11771 Dr. Hamid Ibrahim Wed, 22 Oct 2008 03:48:46 +0000 http://anilnetto.com/?p=3935#comment-11771 21st Oct 2008 JUDICIAL INDEPDENCE - BRIBERTY, CORRUPTION AND ACCOUNTABILITY I forward herewith Press briefing by Tan Sri Ramon Navaratnam, President of Transparency International Malaysia (TI-Malaysia), on the judicial independence survey done in Malaysia. Transparency International Malaysia (TI-M) is an independent, non-governmental and non-partisan organisation committed to the fight against corruption. The organisation is committed to the achievement of a socially just and equitable society within a sustainable, plural democracy that is free of corruption. TI-M will, as the lead national anti-corruption organisation, promote the culture of zero corruption in public service, the private sector and civil society through advocacy, education, information and research. INTRODUCTION A RECENT survey by Transparency International Malaysia (TI-Malaysia) conducted among the members of the Malaysian Bar Council revealed that the Malaysian judiciary has yet to see the beginning of the end to the popularly-held opinion that influence from outside plays a key role in the operations and decisions of the Courts. The survey found that the overall perception is quite negative and unforgiving. The Malaysian judiciary came under harsh criticism from among the 339 respondents, with only 1% of the interviewees holding the judiciary in high esteem. The majority of between 209 and 317 (between 62% and 96%) held a very low opinion of the judiciary. The survey was done between March and April 2008. A questionnaire was prepared and distributed to the Malaysian Bar Council members via e-mail. The members printed out the questionnaire, answered it and sent it back to TI-Malaysia. Below are the 10 questions asked during the survey to gauge the current situation in the Malaysian judiciary. JUDICIAL INDEPENDENCE Q: In your opinion, is the judicial process in the High Courts, the Court of Appeal and the Federal Court in Malaysia (the superior courts) free from influence from the executive or legislative branches of government? The Report on JUDICIAL INDEPENDENCE referred to two Judicial sectors: (i) the Superior Courts comprising the High Court, Court of Appeals and the Federal Court; and (ii) the Inferior Courts or the Sessions Courts and Magistrates’ Courts. The Superior Courts were, according to survey participants, often subjected to undue influence (48%); mostly subjected to undue influence (25%); or always subjected to undue influence (18%) from the Government or any other sources. The respondents seemed to have a better opinion of the Inferior Courts. (i) 40% - often subjected to undue influence; (ii) 20% - mostly subjected to undue influence; and (iii) 14% - always subjected to undue influence. 91% of the respondents rated that the Superior Courts were subjected to “undue influence”, whereas only 74% were of the same opinion about the Inferior Courts. What could have held back the 17% in the Inferior Courts from succumbing to the undue influence? Perhaps many of the respondents, being young and still instilled by honour and enthusiasm to do their duty to King and Country, have resisted, or that they had not tasted the fruits of undue influence. BRIBERY and CORRUPTION Q: In your opinion, is the judicial process in the subordinate courts in Malaysia free from undue influence? The perception on BRIBERY and CORRUPTION, according to the poll, was that many opined that the Courts (both Superior and Inferior) were susceptible to bribes that could secure favourable judgments. 46% thought the judiciary was: (i) often subjected to such influence; while (ii) 33% thought it was mostly subjected to such influence; and (iii) another 15% thought the judiciary was always subjected to such influence. 1% and 5% of the respondents felt that the judiciary was being very free and being mostly free from such influence, respectively. With regards to clients asking if judges would accept bribes, the response was as follows: 26% of the respondents had never been asked such a question by their clients. Those who were asked: (i) very rarely, 12%; (ii) sometimes, 40% (iii) often, 14%. 8% said the majority of their clients asked such a question. ACCOUNTABILITY AND DISCIPLINE Q: In your view, is there effective accountability and oversight of the judiciary? Concerning ACCOUNTABILITY AND DISCIPLINE, one can feel rather uncomfortable as there was no indication whether both were conjunctive or disjunctive. (i) Are there systems in place for judges to be accountable for their conduct? (ii) Are there mechanisms to deal with judiciary misconduct? 1% (4 respondents) believed there were effective mechanisms and 3% (9 respondents) thought adequate mechanisms were in place. 27% (93 respondents) of those who responded said the mechanisms needed improvement. 2%, or 6 respondents, held no opinion. But 67%, or 227 respondents, felt that there was a serious problem which should be addressed. Still, the answers could not be taken literally that judges were accountable for their (mis)conduct. Reforms are suggested for this part on accountability and discipline. Q: The final question was asked to further gauge the perception on the Malaysian judiciary, especially when compared with other countries. The judiciary was further put in bad light when it was compared with better judiciaries in other countries. There was the 1% (4 respondents), who believed our judiciary was comparable with the best in other countries. They were supported by 11 persons (slightly more than 3% of respondents), who thought our judiciary was ‘sufficiently qualified given our state of development’. 2 respondents held no opinion. 96 people (28%) considered that the judiciary was in need of improvement. A huge majority of 226 respondents (67%) said the judiciary was facing serious problems, which need to be addressed. APPOINTMENT OF JUDGES Q: Do you feel there are effective mechanisms in place to deal with judicial misconduct? Roughly 1% (3 respondents) was of the view that the APPOINTMENT OF JUDGES was very independent, while 3% (9 respondents) believed that the appointment of judges was mostly independent. The others, comprising 70 (20%) and 93 (28%) respondents, differed in their opinion that the process was: (i) often subjected to undue influence; and (ii) mostly subjected to undue influence. In addition, there were 162 (48%) who held the view that the process was always influenced and, therefore, not independent. It can be assumed that perception(s) may or may not be real and those who responded may or may not have had direct contacts with the judges. It can also be assumed that many could have obtained their information from the Main Stream Media (MSM) and the Alternative Media (AM) and, therefore, could have been influenced by the blogs or complaints published in the newspapers. CONCLUSION The results of the survey clearly reflect the negative view of the legal fraternity on the integrity of the judiciary. Therefore, to eliminate any weaknesses and restore confidence in the judiciary, significant measures to reform the judiciary need to be carried out, and TI-Malaysia welcomes the Prime Minister’s commitment to reform the judiciary before he leaves office in March 2009 and calls on civil society to also support the PM on this measure. These findings will also encourage further research into the impact of corruption on the Malaysian judiciary. ** Analysis done based on the premised statistics supplied. ** The survey was facilitated by the Malaysian Bar Council. Dr. Hamid Ibrahim xxx see also: JUDGES AND JUDICIAL ACCUNTABILITY - Edited by Dr. Cyrus Dass and K Chandra Published by Printworks: email: zimolen@yahoo.com 21st Oct 2008

JUDICIAL INDEPDENCE – BRIBERTY, CORRUPTION
AND ACCOUNTABILITY

I forward herewith Press briefing by Tan Sri Ramon Navaratnam, President of Transparency International Malaysia (TI-Malaysia), on the judicial independence survey done in Malaysia.

Transparency International Malaysia (TI-M) is an independent, non-governmental and non-partisan organisation committed to the fight against corruption. The organisation is committed to the achievement of a socially just and equitable society within a sustainable, plural democracy that is free of corruption. TI-M will, as the lead national anti-corruption organisation, promote the culture of zero corruption in public service, the private sector and civil society through advocacy, education, information and research.

INTRODUCTION

A RECENT survey by Transparency International Malaysia (TI-Malaysia) conducted among the members of the Malaysian Bar Council revealed that the Malaysian judiciary has yet to see the beginning of the end to the popularly-held opinion that influence from outside plays a key role in the operations and decisions of the Courts.

The survey found that the overall perception is quite negative and unforgiving.

The Malaysian judiciary came under harsh criticism from among the 339 respondents, with only 1% of the interviewees holding the judiciary in high esteem. The majority of between 209 and 317 (between 62% and 96%) held a very low opinion of the judiciary.

The survey was done between March and April 2008. A questionnaire was prepared and distributed to the Malaysian Bar Council members via e-mail. The members printed out the questionnaire, answered it and sent it back to TI-Malaysia.

Below are the 10 questions asked during the survey to gauge the current situation in the Malaysian judiciary.

JUDICIAL INDEPENDENCE

Q: In your opinion, is the judicial process in the High Courts, the Court of Appeal and the Federal Court in Malaysia (the superior courts) free from influence from the executive or legislative branches of government?

The Report on JUDICIAL INDEPENDENCE referred to two Judicial sectors: (i) the Superior Courts comprising the High Court, Court of Appeals and the Federal Court; and (ii) the Inferior Courts or the Sessions Courts and Magistrates’ Courts.

The Superior Courts were, according to survey participants, often subjected to undue influence (48%); mostly subjected to undue influence (25%); or always subjected to undue influence (18%) from the Government or any other sources.

The respondents seemed to have a better opinion of the Inferior Courts. (i) 40% – often subjected to undue influence; (ii) 20% – mostly subjected to undue influence; and (iii) 14% – always subjected to undue influence.

91% of the respondents rated that the Superior Courts were subjected to “undue influence”, whereas only 74% were of the same opinion about the Inferior Courts.

What could have held back the 17% in the Inferior Courts from succumbing to the undue influence?

Perhaps many of the respondents, being young and still instilled by honour and enthusiasm to do their duty to King and Country, have resisted, or that they had not tasted the fruits of undue influence.

BRIBERY and CORRUPTION

Q: In your opinion, is the judicial process in the subordinate courts in Malaysia free from undue influence?

The perception on BRIBERY and CORRUPTION, according to the poll, was that many opined that the Courts (both Superior and Inferior) were susceptible to bribes that could secure favourable judgments.

46% thought the judiciary was:

(i) often subjected to such influence; while

(ii) 33% thought it was mostly subjected to such influence; and

(iii) another 15% thought the judiciary was always subjected to such influence.

1% and 5% of the respondents felt that the judiciary was being very free and being mostly free from such influence, respectively.

With regards to clients asking if judges would accept bribes, the response was as follows:

26% of the respondents had never been asked such a question by their clients.

Those who were asked: (i) very rarely, 12%; (ii) sometimes, 40% (iii) often, 14%.

8% said the majority of their clients asked such a question.

ACCOUNTABILITY AND DISCIPLINE

Q: In your view, is there effective accountability and oversight of the judiciary?

Concerning ACCOUNTABILITY AND DISCIPLINE, one can feel rather uncomfortable as there was no indication whether both were conjunctive or disjunctive.

(i) Are there systems in place for judges to be accountable for their conduct?

(ii) Are there mechanisms to deal with judiciary misconduct?

1% (4 respondents) believed there were effective mechanisms and 3% (9 respondents) thought adequate mechanisms were in place.

27% (93 respondents) of those who responded said the mechanisms needed improvement.

2%, or 6 respondents, held no opinion.

But 67%, or 227 respondents, felt that there was a serious problem which should be addressed.

Still, the answers could not be taken literally that judges were accountable for their (mis)conduct. Reforms are suggested for this part on accountability and discipline.

Q: The final question was asked to further gauge the perception on the Malaysian judiciary, especially when compared with other countries.

The judiciary was further put in bad light when it was compared with better judiciaries in other countries.

There was the 1% (4 respondents), who believed our judiciary was comparable with the best in other countries.

They were supported by 11 persons (slightly more than 3% of respondents), who thought our judiciary was ‘sufficiently qualified given our state of development’.

2 respondents held no opinion.

96 people (28%) considered that the judiciary was in need of improvement.

A huge majority of 226 respondents (67%) said the judiciary was facing serious problems, which need to be addressed.

APPOINTMENT OF JUDGES

Q: Do you feel there are effective mechanisms in place to deal with judicial misconduct?

Roughly 1% (3 respondents) was of the view that the APPOINTMENT OF JUDGES was very independent, while 3% (9 respondents) believed that the appointment of judges was mostly independent.

The others, comprising 70 (20%) and 93 (28%) respondents, differed in their opinion that the process was: (i) often subjected to undue influence; and (ii) mostly subjected to undue influence.

In addition, there were 162 (48%) who held the view that the process was always influenced and, therefore, not independent.

It can be assumed that perception(s) may or may not be real and those who responded may or may not have had direct contacts with the judges.

It can also be assumed that many could have obtained their information from the Main Stream Media (MSM) and the Alternative Media (AM) and, therefore, could have been influenced by the blogs or complaints published in the newspapers.

CONCLUSION

The results of the survey clearly reflect the negative view of the legal fraternity on the integrity of the judiciary. Therefore, to eliminate any weaknesses and restore confidence in the judiciary, significant measures to reform the judiciary need to be carried out, and TI-Malaysia welcomes the Prime Minister’s commitment to reform the judiciary before he leaves office in March 2009 and calls on civil society to also support the PM on this measure.

These findings will also encourage further research into the impact of corruption on the Malaysian judiciary.

** Analysis done based on the premised statistics supplied.

** The survey was facilitated by the Malaysian Bar Council.

Dr. Hamid Ibrahim

xxx

see also: JUDGES AND JUDICIAL ACCUNTABILITY – Edited by Dr.
Cyrus Dass and K Chandra

Published by Printworks: email: zimolen@yahoo.com

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]]> By: Surind http://anilnetto.com/democracy/human-rights/anwar-drops-by-at-the-rpk-trial/comment-page-1/#comment-11156 Surind Fri, 10 Oct 2008 04:19:58 +0000 http://anilnetto.com/?p=3935#comment-11156 Well said Antares :) Those chauvinistic & arrogant UMNO #@%$@^#@ must pay! Hope to see you next Monday morning. I usually pop in for the afternoon sessions, but seing how they have ended early the last 2 days, better pop in in the morning before going back to work. Free RPK! Well said Antares :)

Those chauvinistic & arrogant UMNO #@%$@^#@ must pay!

Hope to see you next Monday morning. I usually pop in for the afternoon sessions, but seing how they have ended early the last 2 days, better pop in in the morning before going back to work.

Free RPK!

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]]> By: Antares http://anilnetto.com/democracy/human-rights/anwar-drops-by-at-the-rpk-trial/comment-page-1/#comment-11128 Antares Thu, 09 Oct 2008 15:31:18 +0000 http://anilnetto.com/?p=3935#comment-11128 I'd be there every day for RPK if I didn't live a 3-hr commute back & forth away. What struck me was the great spirit of camaraderie around the courthouse - good to spot so many in their Free RPK T-shirts. Met a guy who had "FREE RPK - ABOLISH THE ISA" embroidered on a dark blue shirt (he explained that he can't wear collarless shirts to work, so he paid a few ringgit at Sungai Wang to get the slogan stitched on, what a resourceful guy!) While waiting for a chance to give RPK ahug and pass him a book I had a drink at a nearby cafe with some friends. It struck me hard how precious FREEDOM is - just to be able to walk across the road and order an iced lemon tea would seem such a privilege to somebody under police detention! With every sip I ferevently wished RPK the same pleasure - how he must look forward to living a normal life as a free man among his beautiful and affectionate family and friends. I can't see Umno abolishing the ISA or even releasing the detainees - it would be too great "a loss of face" for these thick-skinned jingoists. No, the only way is for Pakatan Rakyat to take over the government - let's all pray that it's SOON!!! I’d be there every day for RPK if I didn’t live a 3-hr commute back & forth away. What struck me was the great spirit of camaraderie around the courthouse – good to spot so many in their Free RPK T-shirts. Met a guy who had “FREE RPK – ABOLISH THE ISA” embroidered on a dark blue shirt (he explained that he can’t wear collarless shirts to work, so he paid a few ringgit at Sungai Wang to get the slogan stitched on, what a resourceful guy!) While waiting for a chance to give RPK ahug and pass him a book I had a drink at a nearby cafe with some friends. It struck me hard how precious FREEDOM is – just to be able to walk across the road and order an iced lemon tea would seem such a privilege to somebody under police detention! With every sip I ferevently wished RPK the same pleasure – how he must look forward to living a normal life as a free man among his beautiful and affectionate family and friends. I can’t see Umno abolishing the ISA or even releasing the detainees – it would be too great “a loss of face” for these thick-skinned jingoists. No, the only way is for Pakatan Rakyat to take over the government – let’s all pray that it’s SOON!!!

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]]> By: Rakyat@Work http://anilnetto.com/democracy/human-rights/anwar-drops-by-at-the-rpk-trial/comment-page-1/#comment-11096 Rakyat@Work Thu, 09 Oct 2008 07:29:42 +0000 http://anilnetto.com/?p=3935#comment-11096 Day 4 Arrived 10.20am, court just reconvened 5 mins ago. As usual, the room was packed. Couldn't get in. More ppl were present today and more new faces too. Great!! Keep em coming. Those outside the court house had the opportunity to mingle around great minds like Din Merican and the faithful bloggers. These are real rakyat who are down to earth and humble lot. A sense of euphoria was in the air as more and more ppl turning up each day. Inside the court house, each bench supposed to sit 5 ppl are now occupied by 7 ppl. Half way on, another group of ppl were asked to vacate the room because they were the standing lot. Too bad. Anyway, many smaller groups are visible now sharing and discussing what went on inside the room. The hearing ended about 12pm, unusually early. habis, habis hari ini.That's it for today? I asked. Ya, ya came a joyous reply from those geting out of the room. Its a nice feeling this time round. I leave the details out coz you can read it from M'siakini and MT. Better get in to wish Pete and family.At this point many are lining up inside the room to do the same. Was so tempted to take a picture, but lets not abuse the law, right? so no pictures lah. Pete was in high spirit. The family support remain as strong as ever, so are the supporters. Ok,now to quckly get out and try to take pictures of RPK as he's about to leave the room. What do you know, unable to take pictures because the van is park behind the court house.Anyway, make do what we could. All journalist and camera were clicking away just as the van turn out and began its journey to '?' By then, banners and entire supporters were there to say goodbye for the day, yet again. Though the van was tinted and RPK were blinded folded, we all understood its not important becuase by now, RPK and us are already communicating in spirit. RPK knows and we all knows, we are family and we are bonded as one.The crowd cheer and gave a standing ovation to RPK's lawyers for doing a fine job. Marina were holding bunch of flowers from well wisher and some took the opportunity to have photo taken with her too. Well, the day ended in a high spirit mode. Yes, ppl We shall prevail! NEXT COURT SESSION ON MONDAY October 13th, 9am. Be there!! Get your T-shirts when you arrived. P/S, I don't earn commission ok? Just come as you are. Continue to show your support. Day 4

Arrived 10.20am, court just reconvened 5 mins ago. As usual, the room was packed. Couldn’t get in. More ppl were present today and more new faces too. Great!! Keep em coming.

Those outside the court house had the opportunity to mingle around great minds like Din Merican and the faithful bloggers. These are real rakyat who are down to earth and humble lot. A sense of euphoria was in the air as more and more ppl turning up each day.
Inside the court house, each bench supposed to sit 5 ppl are now occupied by 7 ppl. Half way on, another group of ppl were asked to vacate the room because they were the standing lot. Too bad. Anyway, many smaller groups are visible now sharing and discussing what went on inside the room.
The hearing ended about 12pm, unusually early. habis, habis hari ini.That’s it for today? I asked. Ya, ya came a joyous reply from those geting out of the room. Its a nice feeling this time round.
I leave the details out coz you can read it from M’siakini and MT.
Better get in to wish Pete and family.At this point many are lining up inside the room to do the same.
Was so tempted to take a picture, but lets not abuse the law, right? so no pictures lah. Pete was in high spirit. The family support remain as strong as ever, so are the supporters. Ok,now to quckly get out and try to take pictures of RPK as he’s about to leave the room. What do you know, unable to take pictures because the van is park behind the court house.Anyway, make do what we could.
All journalist and camera were clicking away just as the van turn out and began its journey to ‘?’ By then, banners and entire supporters were there to say goodbye for the day, yet again. Though the van was tinted and RPK were blinded folded, we all understood its not important becuase by now, RPK and us are already communicating in spirit. RPK knows and we all knows, we are family and we are bonded as one.The crowd cheer and gave a standing ovation to RPK’s lawyers for doing a fine job. Marina were holding bunch of flowers from well wisher and some took the opportunity to have photo taken with her too. Well, the day ended in a high spirit mode. Yes, ppl We shall prevail! NEXT COURT SESSION ON MONDAY October 13th, 9am. Be there!! Get your T-shirts when you arrived. P/S, I don’t earn commission ok? Just come as you are. Continue to show your support.

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]]> By: Rakyat@Work http://anilnetto.com/democracy/human-rights/anwar-drops-by-at-the-rpk-trial/comment-page-1/#comment-11084 Rakyat@Work Thu, 09 Oct 2008 04:21:04 +0000 http://anilnetto.com/?p=3935#comment-11084 Today THURSDAY 9.10.08. A quick one. PLS NOTE TODAYS COURT CASE ENDED AT 12PM. NEED NOT GO THIS AFTERNOON. CASE WILL CONTINUE ONLY NEXT MONDAY 13.10.08 9AM. GOT TO GO NOW. CHEERS WILL WRITE MORE THIS EVENING Today THURSDAY 9.10.08.

A quick one.

PLS NOTE TODAYS COURT CASE ENDED AT 12PM.
NEED NOT GO THIS AFTERNOON.
CASE WILL CONTINUE ONLY NEXT MONDAY 13.10.08 9AM.
GOT TO GO NOW. CHEERS WILL WRITE MORE THIS EVENING

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]]> By: rider http://anilnetto.com/democracy/human-rights/anwar-drops-by-at-the-rpk-trial/comment-page-1/#comment-11055 rider Wed, 08 Oct 2008 19:00:49 +0000 http://anilnetto.com/?p=3935#comment-11055 I'm reading this piece late, but am happy , this is the most cheerful news in about the last 10 days, RPK will come out of it triumphantly, good to read that Anwar was there and Raja delighted. I’m reading this piece late, but am happy , this is the most cheerful news in about the last 10 days, RPK will come out of it triumphantly, good to read that Anwar was there and Raja delighted.

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]]> By: kkitsam http://anilnetto.com/democracy/human-rights/anwar-drops-by-at-the-rpk-trial/comment-page-1/#comment-11050 kkitsam Wed, 08 Oct 2008 17:56:40 +0000 http://anilnetto.com/?p=3935#comment-11050 Hi Enforcer, today ends earlier because the Judge was not feeling well. Marina had told us earlier that it's going to end at 11am, but apparently after the 15mins break at 10.30am it resumes until 12. In the morning all went well, the judge was fair, the prosecution team were screwed many times, with their stupid question, and the way it goes, they seems to be dragging the case. For example, they ask the police witness "Bagaimana kamu pergi ke rumah RPK di Sg Buloh (2/5/08)?" RPK and the rest of us just shaking our heads, man if they don't go by cars, then what? walk? Then the police Victor San Jos, have to identified his team mates who went along with him, and the Judge really annoyed, two of the police were seen wearing the name tag, so what's the point of identifying? and at one point, the Victor was asked to identified RPK, of which he was given a picture, again really silly, RPK was there sitting in the dock and the police was given a picture to identified instead of pointing him out straight. The prosecution team is really really bad, unprofessional, which is good to us anyway. Haha. Hi Enforcer, today ends earlier because the Judge was not feeling well. Marina had told us earlier that it’s going to end at 11am, but apparently after the 15mins break at 10.30am it resumes until 12. In the morning all went well, the judge was fair, the prosecution team were screwed many times, with their stupid question, and the way it goes, they seems to be dragging the case. For example, they ask the police witness “Bagaimana kamu pergi ke rumah RPK di Sg Buloh (2/5/08)?” RPK and the rest of us just shaking our heads, man if they don’t go by cars, then what? walk? Then the police Victor San Jos, have to identified his team mates who went along with him, and the Judge really annoyed, two of the police were seen wearing the name tag, so what’s the point of identifying? and at one point, the Victor was asked to identified RPK, of which he was given a picture, again really silly, RPK was there sitting in the dock and the police was given a picture to identified instead of pointing him out straight. The prosecution team is really really bad, unprofessional, which is good to us anyway. Haha.

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]]> By: Candy Wong http://anilnetto.com/democracy/human-rights/anwar-drops-by-at-the-rpk-trial/comment-page-1/#comment-11036 Candy Wong Wed, 08 Oct 2008 16:36:10 +0000 http://anilnetto.com/?p=3935#comment-11036 tomorrow full day hearing, Friday half day only. tomorrow full day hearing, Friday half day only.

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]]> By: Enforcer http://anilnetto.com/democracy/human-rights/anwar-drops-by-at-the-rpk-trial/comment-page-1/#comment-11032 Enforcer Wed, 08 Oct 2008 16:01:06 +0000 http://anilnetto.com/?p=3935#comment-11032 Can any bro out there help out? What actually happened in the morning? Other then YB DSAI, YB KOK and a couple more came? Was there around 1pm, so that there's car park when all out for lunch. Then a couple of more guys and a gal came along for the afternoon session. We waited till 2pm but nobody around except us. After enquiring at the counter we were told there's no afternoon session but to continue tomorrow morning. So the few of us just chatted around till 2.45pm and to meet up again tomorrow. Can any bro out there help out?
What actually happened in the morning? Other then YB DSAI, YB KOK and a couple more came?
Was there around 1pm, so that there’s car park when all out for lunch. Then a couple of more guys and a gal came along for the afternoon session.
We waited till 2pm but nobody around except us. After enquiring at the counter we were told there’s no afternoon session but to continue tomorrow morning.
So the few of us just chatted around till 2.45pm and to meet up again tomorrow.

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]]> By: grkme http://anilnetto.com/democracy/human-rights/anwar-drops-by-at-the-rpk-trial/comment-page-1/#comment-11023 grkme Wed, 08 Oct 2008 14:56:49 +0000 http://anilnetto.com/?p=3935#comment-11023 I take my hat to you,DSAI. I take my hat to you,DSAI.

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