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Kugan Ananthan, 22, from Puchong was arrested on 15 Jan in connection with car theft cases. He collapsed and died on 20 January at the Taipan police station in Subang Jaya.
A Serdang Hospital post-mortem revealed he died due to ‘liquid in his lungs’. The family are now seeking an independent post-mortem.
Klang MP Charles Santiago was reported as saying that statistics revealed in Parliament last year showed that there were 1,535 custodial deaths in the country between 2003 and 2007.
And the government has still not yet set up an Independent Police Complaints and Misconduct Commission, a key recommendation of the Royal Commission.
CKT,
Can your detailed out how TORTURED (could have been) carried out to a 100% NOT YET proven suspect like Kugan who confessed to the POLICE on the whereabout of the hideout where the YET TO BE CRIMINALS keep the luxury cars ?
It will be very interesting, the whole Malaysia wanted to know. Can you do it for the sake of Royal P Of Malaysia
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CKT,
As I said, when you have nothing intelligent to say, better to keep quiet then to open your mouth and to show the world how ignorant you are.
I rest my case.
George
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Yo CKT,
Something for you to think about. If the police already had the evidence why the interrogation especially when you yourself say he confessed. If Kugan had really confessed to everything then why all the brutal beating? Mmmm or was it the beatings that made him confess. Can you wrap your head around that? Are you even aware that criminals have rights too. Think about that the next time you get a ticket for speeding violation. Do I expect you to understand this of course not after all you are a product of the system.
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sabahan,
you said …”MAKE you confess” – hey, they did not make him confess. If they MAKE him confess without him knowing anything, how on earth could Criminal Kugan showed them the stolen cars ? Dreaming ?
sabahan,
pls improve your England..
lightblurr.. err.. lighblue,
Cheras Mahkota residents are NOT criminals. This Kugan is a CAR THIEF/ROBBER. See the difference ?
lightblue,
Yes, let the police do their job. Dealing with criminals need DIFFERENT approach than dealing with your mother-in-law. Not the same.
sabahan,
On your comment of January 28th, 2009 at 4.51pm, it shows that you lack thinking skill and have serious substandard understanding of specific terms. Pls go back to school.
George,
- Don’t be too coward.
- I repeat my question:
Can your detail out how a proper and complete INVESTIGATION should be carried out on a 100% proven suspects like Kugan who CONFESSED to the POLICE on the whereabout of the hideout where the INDIAN CRIMINALS keep the luxury cars ?
- I expect an answer, not strings of excuses and name-calling.
- And some people are ignorant to the fact that Kugan IS a criminal (of course, some Indians appear to idolise criminals).
Ravin
- You need to understand that the Police need to interrogate the suspect to get LEADS for MORE evidence, to round up more gang members. Sometimes, the whole Indian family (could be) criminals.
- Criminals have rights to be kept in a place where they belong, to ensure the rights of the society at large are in place, i.e to prevent their cars from being robbed, at least by Kugan.
- Come on.. speeding is not a crime. Pls read some law books.
- So you’re telling me that you’re not a product of the ‘system’. What system? Marriage? If marriage, yes i am….
- Please tell (the criminals), stop being criminals. Sell ladu, maruku, cut hair, tar road, tap rubber also can make money maahh.. Oh yes, bartender and car jockey also can, but dont duplicate the keys ok?
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Deyy George,
- For your benefit, i rephrase my question briefly:
Can your detail out how a proper and complete INVESTIGATION should be carried out ?
- I expect an answer, not strings of excuses and name-calling.
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CKT,
1st of all – I am not Indian.
2nd – I have got guts enough to state my full name and be known for my views. I do not put in synonyms or abbreviations to remain anonymous
3nd – it is for the PDRM who have been “trained” to do proper investigation. Maybe they should look at some good police movies on the TV to know more. I am NOT the person to state what is good Police Investigation, for I am not police. If I did then quite a large part of the Police force should resign and I go in there to clean up. But then again I am only a Layman who knows enough (via reading widely) to say that the Police CANNOT & MUST NOT beat a man (to death) in the lock up. My next book will be on proper Police Investigations so that I may share this with you.
Sadly, you have not enough sense to see the difference. I was trying to be polite when I said – you were ignorant. Since you see fit to use unpolite language i.e. “Deyy”, thus I must admit you sound STUPID in your exultations that what the police are doing is acceptable.
So, CKT – you are the only one in this blog that says what you are saying. You are the exception and thank god for that, as it shows that there is some hope for us in Malaysia
So ONE MORE time I say to you – when you have nothing MUCH intelligent to say, Please Remain silent/quiet/shutup. Otherwise the whole world will know how dumb you are. This is not name calling. This is a FACT.
Happy New Year CKT. Don/t be so “Bull” headed to realise what we are all telling you.
George
p.s. CKT – do read a bit more to expand that little mind of yours.
p.s. 2 – An ex-IGP (name Rahim Noor) was arrested and jailed for beating up a man in 1998. He was jailed for several months. He is what we call – an Ex-convict. Thus the whole Judical system (tainted as it is) says beating a man in the lock up is wrong. ONLY CKT says it is fine….. Hmmm…. i wonder what is truly your motive for saying so.
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CKT,
I can well sympathise with your experiences with the criminal elements but let us not confuse the issues at hand. The police has a job to do and often it is difficult and no one wants to do it. It is also hardwork and thankless. That is their job and they had chosen this profession, for better or for worst. Because of the difficulties and the temptations that were often thrown their way they became very susceptible to taking the path of least resistance. Professionalism of the police force or lack of it then became a real challenge for the nation.
The problem at the moment is that we (it is becoming more and more difficult to) distinguish between (certain) police (personnel) and the criminals.
You had also said that he had confessed. Unless you have inside information or you are a PDRM disinformation officer no where had I read that he ever confessed. And I think other commentors above also made similar disbelief.
Do tell where you got your information from ?
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George,
Aiyyohh… Again you confused yourself. You said that you’re NOT the person to state what is good Police Investigation, for you’re not police.
So, similarly, you’re also NOT the person to state what is bad police investigation, for you’re not police.
The police know their job better.
They interrogate criminals to make sure they can catch other criminals before they rob/rape/steal/kill.
Can you at least say thanks to them.
And now you’re painting them as devil, and trying to idolise/godify/glorify criminals like Kugan.
What happened to you guys ???
So,
Can your detail out how an INVESTIGATION should be carried out on a hard core criminals like Kugan who TOLD the POLICE on the whereabout of the hideout where the INDIAN CRIMINALS keep the luxury cars ?
Can we at least be happy that we have one less criminal/robber ?
Can we address the root cause of the symbiosis between Indians presence and crime rates ?
Indians are just less than 5% of the population, but they contribute to more than half of the crime rate in the country.
Can someone take up the challenge to clean this country from… crimes ?????
Any takers ? Manika ? Samy Veloo ? Waytamoorthy ?
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Mist,
I give you a hint.
Pls ask Kugan’s family members. Some of them are (allegedly) also car robbers/thieves.
Pls also ask the family members of two other guys who were detained together with Kugan.
Just ask them, “tell me sincerely and nicely, do they steal cars ?”
Grow up. Reality bites. Moreover if you’re an Indian.
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Dear CKT,
For god sake please stop your arguments. It’s all nonsense… Kugan is death now and you can ask the stupid questions as below:
Just ask them, “tell me sincerely and nicely, do they steal cars ?”
Aren’t you matured enough to talk about this issue? if your answer is no means please do stop commenting in this page.
Now the matter is Kugan was not sentenced as a criminal he was just a suspect. How would you feel if this situation happens to 1 of your family member? You’ll say they are criminal is it?
CKT, please STOP commenting because psycho’s like you need more rest and medical assistance..
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See some pics http://minaq-jinggo.fotopages.com/?source=1486723
In Shah Alam, a car robber also cut the hand of one victim.
In Cheras, a car robber did not just rob the car, he raped the driver
Anyone fighting for them ?
Kugan is a robber. Robbery is a crime. Kugan is a criminal.
Understand ????
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dear “concern human”,
why did you say that it is a stupid question ?
- Because the answer is obvious, that he steals car ? So you admit that Kugan is a thief/robber ?
And again, none of my family members are robbers…
How about your family ?
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CKT,
it seems u r determined to stir up RACIAL sentiments. Furthermore, u have indicated that u have no respect for the LAW, nor human rights. This will be my final reply to you and i hope fellow commentators would refrain from replying to your baiting.
1. No one is guilty unless proven in a court of LAW.
2. PDRM does not have the right to abuse criminals/suspects/civilians.
Happy CNY to CKT and all fellow commentators.
Lightblue
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CKT,
You are angry and lost your mind. In the first place how could I “improve my England”? What do you mean by “England” ??? You better go to see your psychologist immediately or else go and see your play school teacher. Low IQ…
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HELLO CKT,
I repeat my question:
Can your detailed out how TORTURED (could have been) carried out to a 100% NOT YET proven suspect like Kugan who confessed to the POLICE on the whereabout of the hideout where the YET TO BE CRIMINALS keep the luxury cars ?
Don’t try divert attention, I bet you can. The whole Malaysia is waiting….
Char Keuy Teow(CKT) why busy char keuy teow hahaha…
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sabahan,
i know you come from sabah. and i do understand your dilapitted living condition.
but please pay more attention to grammar, sentence structure and choice of words.
niamah..
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(wow.. anil didn’t approve my comment in reply to lightblurr…)
Which reply to lightblurr? – Anil
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(toned down version)
I dont have even an aorta of intention to stir up racial sentiments. But some ‘malaysians from indian origin’ are turning this into a racial issue. They know that Kugan is a criminal. BUT THEY WORSHIP HIM.
Criminals should be treated as criminals. But (some indians) are idolising “criminals”…
Do you expect the Police to give a heavenly treatment complete with spa and jacuzzi with babes to criminals like Kugan ?
How many men in blue had been killed by the criminals ?…
I do have an utmost respect for the LAW, but the Criminals like Kugan don’t. So respectful that i even never receive any speeding ticket since i got my licence.
Does Kugan respect the LAW ???
I do defend human rights.
But does Criminals like Kugan has respect for OTHER HUMAN’s right ?
Isnt it our right to have our property (including cars) not to be stolen ?
Why is it that Criminals like Kugan don’t have proper RESPECT for other human and MALAYSIAN’S RIGHT ?? Is it hereditary (sabahan please look for the meaning in dictionary), or lack of parental guidance, or peer pressure ?
1. No one is guilty unless proven in a court of LAW, and EVERYONE must respect the spirit of the LAW. The investigation process needs to be carried out to prevent greater damage to te society. The police are to be lauded and appraised to maintain law and order, if not, Klang will have much higher crime rate.
2. The criminals do not have the right to abuse civilians, including your mother and me.
Hey.. he was detained after a brutal car chase, and lead the police to where they keep the 15 stolen cars….
Niamah..
Makkal Sakhti !!!
Down with Criminals !!!
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Kugan is innocent until proven guilty unless he was shot during shootout with the police while getting away from the scene of crime or else he will escape and at large….
Just because a criminal is not (yet) sentenced in court doesn’t mean that he is innocent.
Recently a statutory rapist was set free due to flaw in prosecution. He is innocent, right? Yeah, until he meets your daughter.
Police are doing their jobs and sometimes they make mistakes. But they caught the criminal, that’s a relief to a lot of people especially owners of luxury cars.
You alway criticise the police for not acting fast enough to catch kidnappers and pickpockets and you want to protect big time car thieves and robbers?
Cheh!
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A person suspected of a crime can never be a martyr.
A suspect can be a person who has been arrested at least once for a similar crime, or any crime, before.
A suspect can be an ex-convict.
A suspect can be a person who happens to be at the scene of crime and arouses suspicion.
A suspect can be a person caught red handed.
A suspect is as good as a criminal itself and the police seldom wrongly catch a suspect because there is a set of procedure and guidlines to identify a suspect.
Police doesn’t simply pick a random person from the street and beat him to death. That only happens in Tamil movies.
Too much Tamil movies also not good
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CHAR KEUY TEOW (CKT)
WHAT IS NIAMAH? please pay more attention to you grammar, sentence structure and choice of words.”NIAMAH” IS NOT ENGLISH BAH.Please read more English books….
Don’t try to divert attention. You still did not answer our questions.
Can your detailed out how TORTURED (could have been) carried out to a 100% NOT YET proven suspect like Kugan who confessed to the POLICE on the whereabout of the hideout where the YET TO BE CRIMINALS keep the luxury cars ?
Whole Malaysia still waiting ….? I dare you don’t know how to answer.
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sabahan,
it is my self-imposed discipline of not replying to immature kids with iodine deficiency like you. i’m sorry i broke that.
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