Jul 162008
 

Almost all (97%) of you picked Anwar as the more convincing of the two debaters last night (see also: Anwar gets bloggers’ vote) – but today he is arrested – again. 

Here we go again – it’s like a re-run…no, a re-make… of a bad movie, complete with the balaclava-clad special squad. You just don’t want to sit through such a sordid saga again. Once in a life-time is enough, thank you very much.

Anwar was detained on his way back from the ACA office by a team of police officers just before 1.00pm – an hour before a 2.00pm deadline for him to report to the police station.

Nurul Izzah writes in her blog:

Dad was arrested by the cops whilst on his way to the IPK to give his statement. The cops gave till 2pm for dad to report but still arrested him before the deadline. Dad was on his way back home to have lunch in Bukit Segambut, and then head to the IPK but the cops blocked off the road and arrested him like a criminal. And the cops who arrested him were Special Squad cops with balaclavas!!! Is that necessary!!!

I hope and pray for our nation today. I ask all Malaysians to be calm but strong in this event. I truly do believe our nation’s future rests on what happens in the next weeks.

Please please do not give the authorities any reason to crack down on us. Let us do everything by the book and do what’s right.

And most of all, please pray.

Izzah

Minutes before his arrest, pandemonium broke out in Parliament when Khairy asked for Anwar’s DNA sample to be given to the police (see Harakah report below).

His family and many other Malaysians are already deeply concerned about how he will be treated in custody. Abdullah Badawi and his administration will be held accountable for this.

For the record, Anwar gave a polished performance last night and looked magnanimous by not responding to Shabery’s personal attacks. His suggestion for a 50-sen oil price reduction sounded feasible and do-able to alleviate some of the pain felt by the lower-income group and to revive the economy. The BN would have had a tough time explaining why it can’t do that. 

Neither side, however, addressed the issue of conservation and sustainable development to preserve oil resources nor did they touch on the importance of carrying out research on renewable energy such as solar power.

But whatever goodwill the Abdullah administration may have generated from allowing such an unprecendented debate on “live” television last night will undoubtedly be squelched in the uproar that is bound to follow in the wake of Anwar’s arrest. I hope PR supporters and other Malaysians will remain calm and avoid giving the authorities a pretext for any further draconian measures.

This is just a temporary setback in the struggle for justice – there have been many before – but we shall overcome. The struggle for justice must go on – this time led by all of us who cherish justice and democracy.

Meanwhile, an uproar broke out in Parliament this morning centring on Khairy’s bizarre request for Anwar’s DNA sample. This from Harakah Daily:

Anwar ditahan, Azmin sangsi kenapa Khairy minta sampel DNA Anwar

Wan Nordin Wan Yaacob

KUALA LUMPUR, 16 Julai (Hrkh) – Beberapa minit sebelum Ketua Umum KeADILan, Dato’ Seri Anwar Ibrahim ditahan berhampiran rumahnya pada jam 1.15 petang tadi Dewan Rakyat turut kecoh berhubung kes Liwat Anwar.

Dewan Rakyat kecoh hampir setengah jam ketika menantu Perdana Menteri, Khairy Jamaluddin berucap dengan membuat tuduhan terhadap Ketua Umum Parti Keadilan Rakyat (KeADILan), Dato’ Seri Anwar Ibrahim berhubung dakwaan liwat.

Khairy mencetus kemarahan ahli Parlimen Pakatan Rakyat antaranya, Ketua Pembangkang, Dato’ Seri Dr Wan Azizah Wan Ismail; Azmin Ali (KeADILan Gombak); Gobind Singh Deo (DAP Puchong); Yusmandi Yusof (KeADILan Balik Pulau) dan beberapa ahli Pakatan Rakyat lain yang turut mengecam Khairy.

Perang mulut antara Khairy dengan Azmin bermula apabila Khairy menyifatkan Anwar tidak mengikut undang-undang kerana tidak ke Balai Polis untuk memberi keterangan kepada pihak polis.

Malah, Khairy juga mendesak sampel DNA Anwar diserahkan kepada polis jika Ketua Umum KeADILan itu meskipun bagi Azmin dan Gobind siasatan polis belum selesai.

Tuduh menuduh bergelandangan dalam Dewan Rakyat antara Azmin dengan Khairy ditambah dengan beberapa orang ahli Parlimen yang menyebabkan suasana tak keruan.

Azmin juga menyifatkan bahawa Rembau (Khairy) adalah Perdana Menteri yang sebenarnya mentadbir Malaysia walaupun Perdana Menteri yang dinamakan kini adalah dari Kepala Batas (Dato’ Seri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi).

Timbalan Speaker Dewan Rakyat, Dato’ Wan Junaidi Tunku Jaffar yang menjadi orang tengah dalam perdebatan itu terpaksa beberapa kali meminta ahli-ahli dewan bertenang dan tidak melontarkan sebarang tuduhan.

Sementara itu di Azmin yang ditemui di Lobi Parlimen menyatakan kesangsiannya terhadap kenyataan Khairy, itu yang disifatkan menjustifikasikan awal dalam kes liwat Anwar.

“Soal DNA, kita setuju dengan soal dia nak satu forensik bebas menyiasat, tetapi siapa yang akan menganggotai forensik itu benar-benar berwibawa dalam jalankan siasatan,”

Namun kata Azmin, beliau melihat bagaimana Khairy seperti boleh tahu tentang laporan polis terhadap Anwar itu sedangkan pihak yang dituduh sehingga kini tidak pernah mendapat salinan laporan itu.

Sedangkan, katanya sepatutnya pihak yang dituduh (Anwar) menerima laporan polis tersebut.

“Bagaimana Rembau (Khairy) boleh tahun tentang laporan itu, saya cabar dia agar dia jawab dalam dewan, ” katanya.

Beliau juga sangsi bahawa mungkin ada satu konspirasi terhadap tuduhan liwat Anwar.

Perkembangan mengenai Anwar, sehingga kini Anwar dilaporkan dibawa ke IPK Kuala Lumpur dan orang ramai mula berkumpul bagi memberi sokongan kepada Anwar.

Polis yang menahan beliau dilaporkan memakai topeng dan berkaca mata gelap.

Antara pimpinan PAS yang ada di IPK ialah, Dr Hatta Ramli dan Dr Zulkifly Ahmad.

  41 Responses to “Anwar “wins” debate hands down – but is now arrested”

  1. Hello,

    Personally for the debates my comments is similar from the rocky bru’s comment, is that Shabery played the blame game but not that excessively. DSAI Anwar previously was Minister of Finance, so he has no problem in giving such debates. He was indeed a part of the policy-making BN machine.

    The Info Minister had reminded Anwar that in 1997 he was subscribing to IMF prescriptions, such as pushing up interest rates sky high, which hurt a lot of business people and the layman.

    However both speakers conducted themselves very well. They were not emotional and stuck to the topic.

    Hopefully this debate program could be done frequently in the future for food of thoughts for the public and the government towards developing our country.

    Of course he would be arrested as he is involve with his sodomy case. You don’t expect suspect of the case to be walking freely in this place, right?

    It doesn’t matter if he is innocence or otherwise, let the law of justice decide it all.

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  2. Anwar’s arrest is living testimony that the UMNO/BN s***bags have no more answers to all the queries he raised about their corruption, cronyism, nepotism and mismanagement. Anwar has exposed all their dirty skeletons and (perhaps) the only way they can stop Anwar is to arrest him. Perhaps the time has now come for the King to intervene and sack the PM, DPM and the whole bunch of those UMNO s***bags. The time has also come for people’s power to (oppose) this sickening gomen which has no legitimacy to govern. 1 million people should now take to the streets in KL, Putrajaya to demand that the PM release Anwar at once!

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  3. Mister ,

    That is easy for you to say. I hope one day your son gets arrested and bail is not given and the Courts take 6 years for your son/daughter’s case to come to trial and he rots in jail for 6 years.

    Let me hear you talk about “Let the law of justice decide it all”

    Best of all, after 6 years of your sons/daughters life wasted away in detention, hope the Judge then declare “Innocent”.

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  4. Sunwayopal,

    Your lack of understanding in reading judgments is symptomatic of the problems facing most Anwar’s supporters.

    However, we are surprised that Police have taken action in arresting Anwar. However, we are not surprised if we consider Anwar as just another normal citizen, accused of a sexual offence.

    We pray that the truth will prevail, regardless in favor of whom.

    On the debate, UMNO D.U has come up with a response that Shabery clearly failed to raised yesterday

    Read it @ http://www.suaradu.com

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  5. The World is watching. Every right thinking Rakyat is angry. Watch your conducts, esp the Polis. You’ve no rights to manhandle Anwar. Release him as he is still innocent until proven guilty.
    BN, do it right, not dirty!

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  6. History teaches us important lessons. There is strength in numbers!

    Some examples of popular responses to tyranny:

    1. General strike e.g. May 1968 in Paris, France (ended Charles de Gaulle’s rule)

    2. Refusal to obey unjust laws e.g. Mahatma Gandhi’s Salt March of 1930

    3. Mothers of the Plaza de Mayor in Buenos Aires, Argentina i.e. weekly protests for their loved ones who had been “disappeared” by the military regime of the mid-1970s

    4. Chilean women banging pots and pans to protest hyperinflation during the rule of President Salvador Allende

    5. People Power movement of the Philippines (ended the rule of Ferdinand Marcos and Erik Estrada)

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  7. Dear sunwayopal,

    May I add please. “Hopefully your son rot … in the dungeon, then they say he is innocent. Or probably Mister rot first and could only hear his son is innocent without being able to response.”

    I think that is better…

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  8. Sorry, should be Joseph “Erap” Estrada!

    Flying fingers!

    The Spanish term for banging pots and pans is CACEROLAZO

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  9. To UMNO DU,

    If you all still consider yourself as human being,
    pls convey the message to your leader snfd ask them to stop insulting Rakyat’s Intelligence on the allegation against DSAI!

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  10. Now they are looking for Raja Petra. Those so-called humans are not in the mode of destruction, any obstacles will be terminated.

    Pray for their safety. If anything should happens to both of them, we the rightful rakyat should walk out and uphold the justice. Bring those morons down!

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  11. quote mr mugam:
    ==”Of course he would be arrested as he is involve with his sodomy case. You don’t expect suspect of the case to be walking freely in this place, right?

    It doesn’t matter if he is innocence or otherwise, let the law of justice decide it all.”==

    no. 1 – then what happened to the other VVIP? he was also a suspect but the police never arrest him… oh… never even question him!!

    no. 2 – what law of justice? there’s no justice in malaysia!! not esp. if you are anwar, anwar’s followers, opposition, ordinary rakyat.

    we have lost confidence in justice, the law and the police! all bulls***!

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  12. These idiots are clever. They charge DSAI and RPK simultaneously so that the peoples’ support will be divided. But not so clever though. I am wondering what would be the comment from the … BADWI from the south.

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  13. The b******* have done it again, Anil. (In my opinion), Musa is the biggest … culprit who carries the anarchy on his shoulder. The A-G is an irresponsible t…… who can’t even move an inch in his own thoughts. How can these people claim to be the high officials standing in to protect and safeguard lives and interests of those in civil establishments? I don’t want talk about PM here, as he is unworthy of any words we may have in the dictionary. A damn superficial fella.

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  14. Why the hell are the authorities treating Anwar like some-kind-of-an-Osama? The PM being the kepala for PDRM has just bunked his credibility to the pits. And so should fall all of humpty dumpty’s horses too. No?!?

    Please Mr PM do you not realize that this arrest has now totally betrayed the rakyat’s iota of hope in you and your fellow stooges? More so when Anwar had publickly stated that he will be there at PDRM at 2.00 pm.

    My God, the dark clouds are indeed setting all around us.

    What have our last bastion His Majesty the King got to say?

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  15. It is so clear there is one law for THEM! and one separate law for the rest of us.

    There is no justice for all as alluded by mr Mugam.

    And UMNODU, i have one question to ask you and if this doesnt prove that this politically motivated , I dont know what is!!!

    I ask you this, from Merdeka 1957 up to now, can you tell me how many males have been arrested for the crime of sodomising another man (lets leave alone conviction).

    Just tell me how MANY!!!!

    ZERO!!!!! Other than Datuk Seri!!!!

    Not politically motivated???? 51 years from 1957 to 2008!!!!ZERO!

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  16. A normal citizen gets arrested by a multitude of policemen in baclava and a 15 car convoy? The next time u get mugged, try shouting loudly. 99% of the time, no police is around. Then you go to the Balai to report, and will never get feedback. DSAI did not get preferencial treatment, he got preferencial intimidation. Please think before writting, most UMNO lovers still think that there is rule of law. Tell that to UMNO Penang who can demonstrate and nobody get caught.

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  17. mugam,
    You are trying to be righteous in a WRONG way.Maybe you atre not aware that sodomy is NOT a crime in many civilised countries.If those countries do not consider them criminals, I believe that they are not violent and not a threat to human lives. Why treat Anwar in such a harsh manner?
    Remember that we have an alleged murder who was allowed bail and this guy is well connected.
    Mugam, just compare the two of them!!!

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  18. Our hearts and prayers go out to you, Izzah, your mum and the rest of the family.

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  19. To put the record straight Anwar did NOT support the IMF measures in the 1997 crisis. This was a mischevious statement put out by Mahathir when he brought Anwar down in the first “sodomy” conspiracy when Anwar opposed him for using huge sums of public funds from the GLCs to bailout his cronies’ companies who were bleeding badly from the currency turmoil exarcebated by lack of proper governance and transparency in financial management. Anwar had given various public statements about the need for these measures (good governance & transparency) around the time prior to his arrest (please look up the newspapers of that time period) and also pushed through the Anti-Corruption Act (when he was acting Prime Minister while Mahathir took a 2 month leave). Ironically, transparency & anti-corruption measures were also among the chief concerns of the IMF prescriptions in countries such as Indonesia & South Korea, who ironically have rebounded stronger than Malaysia since the crisis. This was among the things that drove Mahathir to turn against his deputy. Remember that Mahathir never wanted Anwar as his no. 2 – he was forced to appoint him when Anwar won the UMNO internal party polls decisively.

    Because of Anwar’s intellectual superiority (compared to existing UMNO contemporaries which isn’t too difficult!), his oratorial & public relations skills, leadership, favourable reputation with other world leaders – the Muslim world and the West, and crucially seen as a leader with good moral values & strong family life: the only way to bring him down, especially in the Malay Muslim majority, is to drag his morals into question – and the case cannot just be one of loose women / gambling etc (since so many of the UMNO leaders seem to be smirched with this), but a story that would arouse such horror and disgust among the Malay muslims that would cause even the staunchest supporters to feel some doubt in their support for him.

    They could never touch him on corruption simply because there is nothing there. It was easier to put out a story that he is a serial rapist of unwilling men, who overpowered by his brute strength, succumbed to being sodomised – what could be easier than getting someone’s dna these days and putting it in strategic places? Never mind connecting the dots (a sad reflection of the strength of critical thinking among some segments of the Malaysian public, Malaysia O Malaysia….).

    This second “sodomy” conspiracy leaves a lot of us, the silent Malay muslim majority, in grave disquiet. UMNO has done a lot for the Malays but no “gratitude” is due – you serve us because we are your masters, not the other way around. The last election was a real watershed. I will never vote for “party” ever again. Each time, I will examine the background & demeanour & track record of the candidate who is representing himself as the best servant for the public.

    If Anwar has done nothing else, if he fails, if he falls, this is his legacy.

    He is not an unfallible human being. His economic arguments are well thought out and well communicated. But there is so much economic uncertainty in the world today, that I do not know if all of it will work. But 10 years ago: I do know this, after following the case & reading Stanley Augustines 100+ pages of judicial judgement: he is NO sodomite. The judgement raised more questions in my mind then answers as the “story” the learned judge “painted” just did not gel. There were too many gaps in the storyline. I have no doubt the spin doctors are as hard at work this time, and this time they will no doubt be more crafty and devious having learned that the “black-eye” approach only served to turn many people off (even their supporters).

    Well, men may plot and plan, but God has far greater plans too…

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  20. The emergence of the new MAHAFIRAUN..

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  21. They going to pay for this. BN & the gang have done a sin. You see Khir Toyo lost the state because of his wrong doing.

    Is killing is more humane than liwat? Well arrest the VVIP (and others linked to that case) too Mr Mugam. Don’t try to be fair when actually you make a fool of urself.

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  22. Whatever the charge is, whatever the evidences are, no matter how much the Govt, police and media will try to convince us; the manner the Government and police are handling this (with no human decency at all)..there is NO WAY the ordinary rakyat will believe Anwar is guilty.

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  24. (UMNO) at work, no one can critize the gomen, no one can stand in the way of the gomen. Anwar phobia at its peak, its scripted that he will be charged in the court.it a political execution.sodomy become the NO 1. in list of serious crime.

    now, the stupid khairi demands DNA, … the underhand dirty tactics by UMNO govt is disgusting, ungentlemanly,unfair and discriminative. i think the more agressive and foolish handle this matter, the event could be the catalyst for the downfall of this undemocratic govt.

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  25. For me – as a muslims – still I was very proud to say go to hell with …

    Pls all can u imagine is it so easy for us to do this to a normal guy (lelaki sejati) as claim by his fiance.
    This is bull s*** … unless saiful was a gay… and he claims done by DSAI.
    Everything is possible.
    anything possible when you’re trying to frame…

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