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		<title>By: orange</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Feb 2009 15:16:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>batu caves is all about money$$ these days. i do not know what sort of people are running that place but i dare say that no respectable or religious hindu would round up snakes (i thought snakes were sacred as they represent wisdom?) and stick them into pathetic little glass tanks to make money off visitors.
and did anyone of you notice the 2 monkeys caged up near the entrance to the gallery? 
fyi - tourists do not react well to such cruelty that the temple authorities deem to be an attraction.
the motivation behind such stupid actions screams of zero compassion, which is against one of the main teachings in hinduism. so is it a wonder that devotees are choosing to abandon fulfilling their penance there?
that place now reeks of despair and sadness.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>batu caves is all about money$$ these days. i do not know what sort of people are running that place but i dare say that no respectable or religious hindu would round up snakes (i thought snakes were sacred as they represent wisdom?) and stick them into pathetic little glass tanks to make money off visitors.<br />
and did anyone of you notice the 2 monkeys caged up near the entrance to the gallery?<br />
fyi &#8211; tourists do not react well to such cruelty that the temple authorities deem to be an attraction.<br />
the motivation behind such stupid actions screams of zero compassion, which is against one of the main teachings in hinduism. so is it a wonder that devotees are choosing to abandon fulfilling their penance there?<br />
that place now reeks of despair and sadness.
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		<title>By: railcoop</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 10:56:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Politicians and the Temple Leaderships over the years have allegedly been in cahoots in conducting the Thai Pusam celebrations at Batu Caves as well as in the temples associated with the celebration and contributions along the route taken by the Ratham.

Would someone reaaly know exactly how much was collected from the Public and Devotees over the years since the War.
l
It is alleged that tenants of the temporary lots for selling odds and ends had to pay under the counter in the past in addition to the rental of about RM4,000.00 to RM 5,000.00 for a Lot.

It is time that an Independant Accounting Firm of REPUTE is assigned all collections from beginning to the end so that the Public and Devotees can feel safe that their contributions are going to be accounted correctly. What happens to the collections after that  - may be another story. Only Lord MURUGA will know that. It is said that unlike Lord Ganesha that Lord MURUGA acts slowly on ..........</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Politicians and the Temple Leaderships over the years have allegedly been in cahoots in conducting the Thai Pusam celebrations at Batu Caves as well as in the temples associated with the celebration and contributions along the route taken by the Ratham.</p>
<p>Would someone reaaly know exactly how much was collected from the Public and Devotees over the years since the War.<br />
l<br />
It is alleged that tenants of the temporary lots for selling odds and ends had to pay under the counter in the past in addition to the rental of about RM4,000.00 to RM 5,000.00 for a Lot.</p>
<p>It is time that an Independant Accounting Firm of REPUTE is assigned all collections from beginning to the end so that the Public and Devotees can feel safe that their contributions are going to be accounted correctly. What happens to the collections after that  &#8211; may be another story. Only Lord MURUGA will know that. It is said that unlike Lord Ganesha that Lord MURUGA acts slowly on &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.
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		<title>By: Drop in Batu Caves donations supports eye-witness impressions &#171; anilnetto.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drop in Batu Caves donations supports eye-witness impressions &#171; anilnetto.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Feb 2008 09:21:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] corroborates the impressions of eye-witness who told me there was a 30-50 per cent drop when they visited the temple site early on Thaipusam [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] corroborates the impressions of eye-witness who told me there was a 30-50 per cent drop when they visited the temple site early on Thaipusam [...]
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		<title>By: dreamlander</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 15:47:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Declaring a hoilday for Thaipusam in KUL/Putrajaya just backfired. The Hindu devotees have the extra time to visit other more remote shrines away from Batu Caves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Declaring a hoilday for Thaipusam in KUL/Putrajaya just backfired. The Hindu devotees have the extra time to visit other more remote shrines away from Batu Caves.
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		<title>By: S.SIVA</title>
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		<dc:creator>S.SIVA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 09:33:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi ALL .. my home in kl batu caves . where i was in indian settelement . maybe some may know where is the indian settelement and how near the place to bt caves temple.. so close the temple for me when i was there for 26years. but recently BN demolish all the houses.. the issue happen last year nov 25 at the temple really heard pain for me, cauz the people who were trapped inside the gate  were sprayed with water tonne and tear gas.. really painful..... so  makkal sakthy boycot to bt caves temple  and i my self went to penang .. its was wonderful place and i  pay ONLY rm5 for parking which u can even get at the bt caves. food n drink given free... its really enjoy and the crowd was very packed..just wondering where nadaraja gone on the thaipusam???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi ALL .. my home in kl batu caves . where i was in indian settelement . maybe some may know where is the indian settelement and how near the place to bt caves temple.. so close the temple for me when i was there for 26years. but recently BN demolish all the houses.. the issue happen last year nov 25 at the temple really heard pain for me, cauz the people who were trapped inside the gate  were sprayed with water tonne and tear gas.. really painful&#8230;.. so  makkal sakthy boycot to bt caves temple  and i my self went to penang .. its was wonderful place and i  pay ONLY rm5 for parking which u can even get at the bt caves. food n drink given free&#8230; its really enjoy and the crowd was very packed..just wondering where nadaraja gone on the thaipusam???
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		<title>By: LC_Teh</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 08:45:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did notice that the Star&#039;s main pictures day after Thaipusam didn&#039;t dare show the &#039;huge&#039; crowd.  The photos only showed some peoples&#039; heads.  Trying to cover some other people&#039;s embarrassment?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did notice that the Star&#8217;s main pictures day after Thaipusam didn&#8217;t dare show the &#8216;huge&#8217; crowd.  The photos only showed some peoples&#8217; heads.  Trying to cover some other people&#8217;s embarrassment?
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		<title>By: Siew Eng</title>
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		<dc:creator>Siew Eng</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 01:56:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See Nanda&#039;s account (and pictures!) in The People&#039;s Parliament. http://harismibrahim.wordpress.com/2008/01/25/nandas-batu-caves-photos/
http://harismibrahim.wordpress.com/2008/01/24/nanda-at-batu-caves/</description>
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		<title>By: Cheeran</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 17:33:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“I have come to Thaipusam since I was 11 years old. I know the crowd. It is the same as before&quot; (Samy quoted). I think he still feel and think like an 11 years old. What a pity? MIC has got a boy to lead them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“I have come to Thaipusam since I was 11 years old. I know the crowd. It is the same as before&#8221; (Samy quoted). I think he still feel and think like an 11 years old. What a pity? MIC has got a boy to lead them.
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		<title>By: raju</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 15:26:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>from johor bahru,yes the crowd was much higher from previous
years.
also never heard from the surrounding indian community that
they are going to batu cave.
finally I can seen the gathering storm and it is getting more
powerful each day.It will strike so powerful that we have not seen
before on election day.
I salute to hindraf,makal sahkthi,ngo and other parties who are
bringing this change</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>from johor bahru,yes the crowd was much higher from previous<br />
years.<br />
also never heard from the surrounding indian community that<br />
they are going to batu cave.<br />
finally I can seen the gathering storm and it is getting more<br />
powerful each day.It will strike so powerful that we have not seen<br />
before on election day.<br />
I salute to hindraf,makal sahkthi,ngo and other parties who are<br />
bringing this change
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		<title>By: 1 million devotees at Batu Caves: Samy Vellu must be kidding&#8230;. to himself.</title>
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		<dc:creator>1 million devotees at Batu Caves: Samy Vellu must be kidding&#8230;. to himself.</dc:creator>
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