Comments on: Thank God for the “mega setback” to Penang infrastructure projects http://anilnetto.com/economy/energy-resources/mega-setback-on-penang-infrastructure-projects-is-a-golden-opportunity/ Let justice flow like a mighty river Mon, 13 Feb 2012 04:39:52 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Fender Stratocaster http://anilnetto.com/economy/energy-resources/mega-setback-on-penang-infrastructure-projects-is-a-golden-opportunity/comment-page-2/#comment-8210 Fender Stratocaster Wed, 03 Sep 2008 17:33:34 +0000 http://anilnetto.wordpress.com/?p=434#comment-8210 Anil I am totally in support of your suggestion on how to spend Rm3-4billion to improve the transportation service. Firstly, the suggestion to expand the ferry service and to increase the existing numbers of terminals is an excellent idea. Allow me to suggest that the ferry service should be upraded to better and bigger ferries to give an air of comfort for users. The new terminals should be planned in such a way that it is also a tourist draw as well as for locals to 'lepak'. What this means is that the terminal itself can be planned as a commercial/entertainment place. Kopitiams, restaurants, pubs etc must be opened as this will attract people to want to lepak at this terminals for their food, drinks or just to take a leisure casual ferry ride and back. I am sure more can be done along those lines and I am not surprised this could be a hit with locals and foreigners alike. As for the trams, it's also a good suggestion. Baring that the trams are not going to disrupt the present traffic condition or make it worse than it already is, the tram would be a very good tourist draws. It would be very good to actually see nice looking trams cruising around the island. Although it may not be the most effective mode, it is save to assume that it would at least help. As I said, so long as it is not going to make the situation worse, think of the economy of Penang. The stations on these trams should also be located at strategic tourist spots and also businesses open around it. I hope the present state govt. would explore all ways to make the tourist come back to this island. Chief Minister LGE, it is your duty now to make this Pearl Shine again! For the People of Malaysia. Anil

I am totally in support of your suggestion on how to spend Rm3-4billion to improve the transportation service. Firstly, the suggestion to expand the ferry service and to increase the existing numbers of terminals is an excellent idea. Allow me to suggest that the ferry service should be upraded to better and bigger ferries to give an air of comfort for users. The new terminals should be planned in such a way that it is also a tourist draw as well as for locals to ‘lepak’. What this means is that the terminal itself can be planned as a commercial/entertainment place. Kopitiams, restaurants, pubs etc must be opened as this will attract people to want to lepak at this terminals for their food, drinks or just to take a leisure casual ferry ride and back. I am sure more can be done along those lines and I am not surprised this could be a hit with locals and foreigners alike.

As for the trams, it’s also a good suggestion. Baring that the trams are not going to disrupt the present traffic condition or make it worse than it already is, the tram would be a very good tourist draws. It would be very good to actually see nice looking trams cruising around the island. Although it may not be the most effective mode, it is save to assume that it would at least help. As I said, so long as it is not going to make the situation worse, think of the economy of Penang. The stations on these trams should also be located at strategic tourist spots and also businesses open around it.

I hope the present state govt. would explore all ways to make the tourist come back to this island. Chief Minister LGE, it is your duty now to make this Pearl Shine again! For the People of Malaysia.

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]]> By: SL http://anilnetto.com/economy/energy-resources/mega-setback-on-penang-infrastructure-projects-is-a-golden-opportunity/comment-page-2/#comment-1877 SL Wed, 14 May 2008 03:46:56 +0000 http://anilnetto.wordpress.com/?p=434#comment-1877 Everyone, write to Penang state government by email: http://www.penang.gov.my Everyone, write to Penang state government by email:

http://www.penang.gov.my

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]]> By: donplaypuks http://anilnetto.com/economy/energy-resources/mega-setback-on-penang-infrastructure-projects-is-a-golden-opportunity/comment-page-2/#comment-1856 donplaypuks Fri, 02 May 2008 14:21:43 +0000 http://anilnetto.wordpress.com/?p=434#comment-1856 Dear Anil I came ascross this yahoo news posting today about the opening of the 36 km world's longest sea bridge in Shanghai at US1.7b or RM 5.5 billion. The web link is at: http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080501/sc_afp/chinaconstructionbridgeroad Perhaps you would like to highlight the comparison with the 24 km RM 4b Penang 2nd Bridge in your blog. Our local costings would seem to be way out of whack given the China bridge is all over sea, while our is a mix. This would be so even if you factor in increase in materials cost and inflation. Dear Anil

I came ascross this yahoo news posting today about the opening of the 36 km world’s longest sea bridge in Shanghai at US1.7b or RM 5.5 billion. The web link is at:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080501/sc_afp/chinaconstructionbridgeroad

Perhaps you would like to highlight the comparison with the 24 km RM 4b Penang 2nd Bridge in your blog.

Our local costings would seem to be way out of whack given the China bridge is all over sea, while our is a mix. This would be so even if you factor in increase in materials cost and inflation.

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]]> By: Moaz Yusuf Ahmad http://anilnetto.com/economy/energy-resources/mega-setback-on-penang-infrastructure-projects-is-a-golden-opportunity/comment-page-2/#comment-1889 Moaz Yusuf Ahmad Wed, 30 Apr 2008 08:25:37 +0000 http://anilnetto.wordpress.com/?p=434#comment-1889 Anil You have my support in any campaign for improved public transport. Whether it turns out to be tram or subway or bus or BRT does not matter right now. Looking at technology is premature right now. What does matter is that there is a plan, that this plan is based on realistic numbers, and the plan will prepare us for the next 10 years and beyond. Cheers, Moaz Yusuf Ahmad Anil

You have my support in any campaign for improved public transport. Whether it turns out to be tram or subway or bus or BRT does not matter right now.

Looking at technology is premature right now.

What does matter is that there is a plan, that this plan is based on realistic numbers, and the plan will prepare us for the next 10 years and beyond.

Cheers, Moaz Yusuf Ahmad

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]]> By: Thank God for the “mega setback” to Penang infrastructure projects : MAILEH http://anilnetto.com/economy/energy-resources/mega-setback-on-penang-infrastructure-projects-is-a-golden-opportunity/comment-page-2/#comment-1888 Thank God for the “mega setback” to Penang infrastructure projects : MAILEH Wed, 30 Apr 2008 04:20:52 +0000 http://anilnetto.wordpress.com/?p=434#comment-1888 [...] Anil Netto  [...] [...] Anil Netto  [...]

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]]> By: anilnetto http://anilnetto.com/economy/energy-resources/mega-setback-on-penang-infrastructure-projects-is-a-golden-opportunity/comment-page-2/#comment-1887 anilnetto Tue, 29 Apr 2008 17:51:10 +0000 http://anilnetto.wordpress.com/?p=434#comment-1887 Dear Tuan Sher I am not the only one in favour of trams. But you are free to agree or disagree. Ric himself has been advocating a return of trams in Penang. Perhaps you might care to look into why the historical and heritage City of Edinburgh is putting up a modern tram system in a big way. Its streets are not any wider than Penang's. Check out this link: http://www.tramtime.com/tramfacts.html Outdated? Think again. best wishes Anil Dear Tuan Sher

I am not the only one in favour of trams. But you are free to agree or disagree.

Ric himself has been advocating a return of trams in Penang.

Perhaps you might care to look into why the historical and heritage City of Edinburgh is putting up a modern tram system in a big way. Its streets are not any wider than Penang’s.

Check out this link:
http://www.tramtime.com/tramfacts.html

Outdated? Think again.

best wishes
Anil

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]]> By: Tuan Sher http://anilnetto.com/economy/energy-resources/mega-setback-on-penang-infrastructure-projects-is-a-golden-opportunity/comment-page-2/#comment-1883 Tuan Sher Tue, 29 Apr 2008 14:27:07 +0000 http://anilnetto.wordpress.com/?p=434#comment-1883 Dear Anil, do you stand for the truth and fair comment? i cannot understand why you lead a one track campaign for trams. Trams were removed from Penang because they FAILED in Penang.Its in the book by Vic himself.You dont invite nor appreciate transport experts opinions , in fact your followers chide and ridicule them . this makes your blog quite irresponsible , just like main stream media that we deplore. This new era is about constructive debate rather than traditional one sided views being pumped into you daily by MSM You are turning into what you despise one sided one tracked opinion that pushes your agenda,...without considering you could very well be wrong.Case in point is trams,totally irrelevant and outdated system for Penang.It is very good system for cities that have wide roads and enoungh space to give up the space for trams or have it for nostalgic reasons like the becha or rickshaw,but not as a mode public transportation for the tight conditions that we have. as many have commented in your blog the answer lies in a good subway system. Trams are not it god bless Dear Anil,
do you stand for the truth and fair comment?
i cannot understand why you lead a one track campaign for trams.
Trams were removed from Penang because they FAILED in Penang.Its in the book by Vic himself.You dont invite nor appreciate transport experts opinions , in fact your followers
chide and ridicule them . this makes your blog quite irresponsible , just like main stream media that we deplore.
This new era is about constructive debate rather than traditional one sided views being pumped into you daily by MSM You are turning into what you despise one sided one tracked opinion that pushes your agenda,…without considering you could very well be wrong.Case in point is trams,totally irrelevant and outdated system for Penang.It is very good system for cities that have wide roads and enoungh space to give up the space for trams or have it for nostalgic reasons like the becha or rickshaw,but not as a mode public transportation for the tight conditions that we have. as many have commented in your blog the answer lies in a good subway system. Trams are not it
god bless

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]]> By: jim http://anilnetto.com/economy/energy-resources/mega-setback-on-penang-infrastructure-projects-is-a-golden-opportunity/comment-page-2/#comment-1886 jim Tue, 29 Apr 2008 10:30:43 +0000 http://anilnetto.wordpress.com/?p=434#comment-1886 dont be so sure oil has hit its peak, $200 per barrel may happen, get ready for a financial crash dont be so sure oil has hit its peak, $200 per barrel may happen, get ready for a financial crash

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]]> By: Penang http://anilnetto.com/economy/energy-resources/mega-setback-on-penang-infrastructure-projects-is-a-golden-opportunity/comment-page-2/#comment-1885 Penang Tue, 29 Apr 2008 07:45:06 +0000 http://anilnetto.wordpress.com/?p=434#comment-1885 BTW, Anil, can you please tell our ...CM that we don't need that monorail thing. It just won't work for Penang. With the MAX capacity of ferrying 16K people per hour, which we can do with an additional 300 buses, we ought not spend 2.2 billion on the monorail. Rather, we should get a subway system that has a max capacity of more than 200K passengers per hour, PER TRACK, PER LINE. (For example, East-west bound line - from Paya Terubong to Ferry Terminal - can have up to 4 tracks, two on each ways, so they can stop at alternate subway stations, speeding up the deliveries. North-south bound line (Tanjung bunga to Bayan Lepas can have the same too !) And please tell that ... CM that if he wants to do it, do it properly. Stop looking for patchwork or band-aid solutions. We need something that would work for us for the next 50 years, or more. BTW, Anil, can you please tell our …CM that we don’t need that monorail thing. It just won’t work for Penang.

With the MAX capacity of ferrying 16K people per hour, which we can do with an additional 300 buses, we ought not spend 2.2 billion on the monorail.

Rather, we should get a subway system that has a max capacity of more than 200K passengers per hour, PER TRACK, PER LINE. (For example, East-west bound line – from Paya Terubong to Ferry Terminal – can have up to 4 tracks, two on each ways, so they can stop at alternate subway stations, speeding up the deliveries. North-south bound line (Tanjung bunga to Bayan Lepas can have the same too !)

And please tell that … CM that if he wants to do it, do it properly. Stop looking for patchwork or band-aid solutions. We need something that would work for us for the next 50 years, or more.

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]]> By: Penang http://anilnetto.com/economy/energy-resources/mega-setback-on-penang-infrastructure-projects-is-a-golden-opportunity/comment-page-2/#comment-1884 Penang Tue, 29 Apr 2008 07:38:38 +0000 http://anilnetto.wordpress.com/?p=434#comment-1884 Kah Seng, please DO NOT compare HK with Penang. HK is made up of SEVERAL ISLANDS, and the mainland (san gai) Penang, however, is made up of ONE main island, and the mainland (Prai) HK needs boats, because of the several island. Penang, we can do away with the ferry, because we have but one main island which can be hooked up with bridges or tunnels to the mainland. I worked in HK too, on assignments. I'm as familiar with HK as you are, Kah Seng. So there's no comparison, okay? Kah Seng, please DO NOT compare HK with Penang.

HK is made up of SEVERAL ISLANDS, and the mainland (san gai)

Penang, however, is made up of ONE main island, and the mainland (Prai)

HK needs boats, because of the several island. Penang, we can do away with the ferry, because we have but one main island which can be hooked up with bridges or tunnels to the mainland.

I worked in HK too, on assignments. I’m as familiar with HK as you are, Kah Seng. So there’s no comparison, okay?

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