Comments on: Labuan residents suffer as taps run dry http://anilnetto.com/economy/energy-resources/labuan-residents-suffer-as-taps-run-dry/ Let justice flow like a mighty river Sun, 12 Feb 2012 10:47:40 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Labuanite64 http://anilnetto.com/economy/energy-resources/labuan-residents-suffer-as-taps-run-dry/comment-page-1/#comment-39594 Labuanite64 Tue, 23 Feb 2010 03:29:42 +0000 http://anilnetto.com/?p=15074#comment-39594 Anil, referring to your question to Salleh. That Petronas facility also suffer. My friends working there are complaining about the water shortage because they can only run 1 out of 2 plants in considering the needs of the people. They are losing hundreds of millions since they stopped operations in July or something. Hundreds of millions that will come into our coffers as the rakyat. Anil, referring to your question to Salleh.

That Petronas facility also suffer. My friends working there are complaining about the water shortage because they can only run 1 out of 2 plants in considering the needs of the people.

They are losing hundreds of millions since they stopped operations in July or something. Hundreds of millions that will come into our coffers as the rakyat.

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]]> By: Labuanite64 http://anilnetto.com/economy/energy-resources/labuan-residents-suffer-as-taps-run-dry/comment-page-1/#comment-39593 Labuanite64 Tue, 23 Feb 2010 03:25:48 +0000 http://anilnetto.com/?p=15074#comment-39593 I am a Labuan resident. This water shortage issue has been there ages already. The people here are used to it. However, to just blame Petronas on this issue would be lopsided, especially if (a big if) one has not visited Labuan and not know what is happening in East Malaysia. Refer: http://www.dailyexpress.com.my/news.cfm?NewsID=43863 Refer para 3. Article dated in 2006. Obviously the govt HAD plans to develop Labuan. If I remember correctly, that new petronas plant not even built and govt are talking of resolving the water issue (remember, its a promise made 4 years ago!). I dont think Petronas would want to build the new plant if they think the JBA cant supply them with water. Simple sense, if I want to build a billion dollar facility, I'll make sure the people who will supply my raw materials CAN supply them when I need them. Sounds like some promises were made and only some are kept. Refer: http://www.lowtax.net/lowtax/html/jlbcfir.html http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn6207/is_20001116/ai_n24903685/ Look at the population growth numbers. Is amazing how it has expanded, yet the infrastructure cant keep up. I think to just bash Petronas is simplistic conclusion when underlying problems are either poor planning and/or execution by you guess who. I am a Labuan resident. This water shortage issue has been there ages already. The people here are used to it.

However, to just blame Petronas on this issue would be lopsided, especially if (a big if) one has not visited Labuan and not know what is happening in East Malaysia.

Refer:
http://www.dailyexpress.com.my/news.cfm?NewsID=43863

Refer para 3. Article dated in 2006. Obviously the govt HAD plans to develop Labuan. If I remember correctly, that new petronas plant not even built and govt are talking of resolving the water issue (remember, its a promise made 4 years ago!). I dont think Petronas would want to build the new plant if they think the JBA cant supply them with water.

Simple sense, if I want to build a billion dollar facility, I’ll make sure the people who will supply my raw materials CAN supply them when I need them.

Sounds like some promises were made and only some are kept.

Refer:
http://www.lowtax.net/lowtax/html/jlbcfir.html
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn6207/is_20001116/ai_n24903685/

Look at the population growth numbers. Is amazing how it has expanded, yet the infrastructure cant keep up.

I think to just bash Petronas is simplistic conclusion when underlying problems are either poor planning and/or execution by you guess who.

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]]> By: Salleh http://anilnetto.com/economy/energy-resources/labuan-residents-suffer-as-taps-run-dry/comment-page-1/#comment-31653 Salleh Wed, 16 Sep 2009 02:57:27 +0000 http://anilnetto.com/?p=15074#comment-31653 No that's not what i meant Anil. Of course its not allright for ordinary people to suffer. and I think I allude to that as much when I said in my earlier posting ie " promises to deliver the water supply are broken and now the people of labuan suffer". No that’s not what i meant Anil. Of course its not allright for ordinary people to suffer. and I think I allude to that as much when I said in my earlier posting ie ” promises to deliver the water supply are broken and now the people of labuan suffer”.

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]]> By: Salleh http://anilnetto.com/economy/energy-resources/labuan-residents-suffer-as-taps-run-dry/comment-page-1/#comment-31647 Salleh Wed, 16 Sep 2009 01:32:51 +0000 http://anilnetto.com/?p=15074#comment-31647 “Agreed with LBJ. This has nothing to do with metanol. For an investment to take place in Labuan certain infrastructure has to be in place and certain promises were surely made to that effect, to deliver on the requirements needed by investors. But as LBJ said incompetence caused supply not delivered on time or the infrastructure not completed on time in order to deliver the required water supply. I don’t know for sure but hopefully somebody can shed more light on this. The crux of the matter is this; the plant wouldn’t be there if promises on the supply of water were not made. Promises to deliver the water supply are broken and now the people of Labuan suffer. I heard that the plant people are doing the best they can by shutting down one of the plant. But can they be expected to shut everything down when they have international clients and promises to deliver to their clients? Why should businesses suffer due to incompetence of other people? <em>So it's all right for ordinary people to suffer - but not big businesses? - Anil</em> “Agreed with LBJ. This has nothing to do with metanol. For an investment to take place in Labuan certain infrastructure has to be in place and certain promises were surely made to that effect, to deliver on the requirements needed by investors. But as LBJ said incompetence caused supply not delivered on time or the infrastructure not completed on time in order to deliver the required water supply. I don’t know for sure but hopefully somebody can shed more light on this. The crux of the matter is this; the plant wouldn’t be there if promises on the supply of water were not made. Promises to deliver the water supply are broken and now the people of Labuan suffer. I heard that the plant people are doing the best they can by shutting down one of the plant. But can they be expected to shut everything down when they have international clients and promises to deliver to their clients? Why should businesses suffer due to incompetence of other people?

So it’s all right for ordinary people to suffer – but not big businesses? – Anil

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]]> By: Bozaki http://anilnetto.com/economy/energy-resources/labuan-residents-suffer-as-taps-run-dry/comment-page-1/#comment-31561 Bozaki Mon, 14 Sep 2009 15:37:11 +0000 http://anilnetto.com/?p=15074#comment-31561 this problem occur since last el nino..when is that? Oh no, around 10 years ago...or eleven... Since then, nothing has been done or less had been done to fix labuan low water pressure problem. I hope everything will get better soon.. this problem occur since last el nino..when is that? Oh no, around 10 years ago…or eleven…

Since then, nothing has been done or less had been done to fix labuan low water pressure problem.

I hope everything will get better soon..

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]]> By: taskforce101 http://anilnetto.com/economy/energy-resources/labuan-residents-suffer-as-taps-run-dry/comment-page-1/#comment-31541 taskforce101 Mon, 14 Sep 2009 11:03:28 +0000 http://anilnetto.com/?p=15074#comment-31541 Labuan was Mahathir's hair brained idea. The problems have not stopped since. From the death of a GM of (a) Bank who did not get medical treatment in time to Labuan being the cowboy town during the 90s to this non sense. I have been and worked in Labuan and all said is a nice place. But its just incompetence and also having idiots as leaders in E.Malaysia that is compounding the problem. When will our brothers learn that Barisan is bankrupt of ideas and only enriching themselves. Labuan was Mahathir’s hair brained idea. The problems have not stopped since. From the death of a GM of (a) Bank who did not get medical treatment in time to Labuan being the cowboy town during the 90s to this non sense.

I have been and worked in Labuan and all said is a nice place. But its just incompetence and also having idiots as leaders in E.Malaysia that is compounding the problem.

When will our brothers learn that Barisan is bankrupt of ideas and only enriching themselves.

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]]> By: Concerned parent http://anilnetto.com/economy/energy-resources/labuan-residents-suffer-as-taps-run-dry/comment-page-1/#comment-31526 Concerned parent Mon, 14 Sep 2009 06:35:42 +0000 http://anilnetto.com/?p=15074#comment-31526 My son is a second year student in UMS Labuan. According to the university authority, the water issue will be resolved in November. Everyday, he need to get up early to store water for washing. So sad that this thing happened in the "International Campus" of a local university. Again bad planning, it should have a big water reservoir in the building plan campus. Again poor planning and selfish Petronas. My son is a second year student in UMS Labuan. According to the university authority, the water issue will be resolved in November. Everyday, he need to get up early to store water for washing. So sad that this thing happened in the “International Campus” of a local university. Again bad planning, it should have a big water reservoir in the building plan campus. Again poor planning and selfish Petronas.

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]]> By: LBJ http://anilnetto.com/economy/energy-resources/labuan-residents-suffer-as-taps-run-dry/comment-page-1/#comment-31520 LBJ Mon, 14 Sep 2009 05:36:27 +0000 http://anilnetto.com/?p=15074#comment-31520 Maybe there is no money to build additional capacity for water. Maybe some politician(s) swiped the money. This is not unfamiliar in Malaysia. Maybe there is no money to build additional capacity for water. Maybe some politician(s) swiped the money.
This is not unfamiliar in Malaysia.

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]]> By: SamG http://anilnetto.com/economy/energy-resources/labuan-residents-suffer-as-taps-run-dry/comment-page-1/#comment-31517 SamG Mon, 14 Sep 2009 03:15:34 +0000 http://anilnetto.com/?p=15074#comment-31517 My nephew joined UMS-KAL (Kampus Antarabangsa Labuan) in Jun 2009. He is struggling to cope with the water shortage. He has not used the toilets in his hostel/"House" (each house has 3 rooms with 5 students). Everyday he has to walk for 15 minutes to have a bath. The University has provided water tanks in the yards, and on their part they are trying their best. Very often the students bath in the open next to the water tanks. Sounds familar? (complaints about foreign workers bathing in the open in housing estates). The painful thing here is that Petronas has been totally irresponsible, siphoning off water when the population is struggling with a massive water shortage. Have they made attempts to source water from elese where? So will Petronas say, "if they don't have water to drink, let them have Coke"? Or in this case "beer" as beer is as cheap as coke My nephew joined UMS-KAL (Kampus Antarabangsa Labuan) in Jun 2009. He is struggling to cope with the water shortage. He has not used the toilets in his hostel/”House” (each house has 3 rooms with 5 students). Everyday he has to walk for 15 minutes to have a bath. The University has provided water tanks in the yards, and on their part they are trying their best. Very often the students bath in the open next to the water tanks. Sounds familar? (complaints about foreign workers bathing in the open in housing estates).
The painful thing here is that Petronas has been totally irresponsible, siphoning off water when the population is struggling with a massive water shortage. Have they made attempts to source water from elese where?
So will Petronas say, “if they don’t have water to drink, let them have Coke”? Or in this case “beer” as beer is as cheap as coke

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]]> By: whispering9 http://anilnetto.com/economy/energy-resources/labuan-residents-suffer-as-taps-run-dry/comment-page-1/#comment-31515 whispering9 Mon, 14 Sep 2009 00:56:42 +0000 http://anilnetto.com/?p=15074#comment-31515 Water pressure in Labuan has always been bad. If the campus hostel did not install a larger water storage tank and a good water pump, getting water for bath will be difficult; on the first come first get basis. It bad during Fridays and Saturdays, when guests from neighboring countries and states pop into town for some duty free holidays and partying. Most Labuan folks have gotten used to the situation. Not fair to put the blame it on Petronas Methanol facility. Without Petronas and other off-shore supply activities, Labuan will be another ghost town. There must always be a co-existent of economy and populace. Maybe, if there is a need to blame, well not blame the planners who put the campuses in Labuan without considering the need to plan for a larger water reservoir. Yes...incompetent planning is usually the culprit. Water pressure in Labuan has always been bad. If the campus hostel did not install a larger water storage tank and a good water pump, getting water for bath will be difficult; on the first come first get basis. It bad during Fridays and Saturdays, when guests from neighboring countries and states pop into town for some duty free holidays and partying. Most Labuan folks have gotten used to the situation. Not fair to put the blame it on Petronas Methanol facility. Without Petronas and other off-shore supply activities, Labuan will be another ghost town. There must always be a co-existent of economy and populace. Maybe, if there is a need to blame, well not blame the planners who put the campuses in Labuan without considering the need to plan for a larger water reservoir. Yes…incompetent planning is usually the culprit.

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