HINDRAF must not threaten but find out who is the real culprit. I am not an indian but I support the Indian cause 100%. LGE will definately do something but please you HINDRAF people please realise the that PKR is for equality for all races. As for this problem I simpatise but don`t you worry Justice will prevail in the end. Right now, BN & Gerakan (KTK) motive is to cause discontent and hope the Indians go back to BN So Hindraf , be strong and let LGE find a way. This the S*** that LGE has to clean.
who are the s*** in there??? demands,threatening etc.Think they are so great and powerful?? Brainless group of people. There should be water cannon etc to rid of this people. I am sick of this so call Malaysians
For those criticizing the PR Penang govt. just remember if this is the BN govt. do you think the villagers will be able to see the DCM with their grouses? Or will the bulldozers be moving in backed by police and FRU?
The problem is created by the BN govt and all the mess thrown to the PR govt. The villagers should not think they are kings just because they voted PR. The state govt is trying to help them but they are being very rude and demanding.
The Penang govt must act within the law or they are no better than BN. Waytha Moorthy is suggesting that LGE forcibly acquire the land and compensate the developer at way below market price. This sort of political gangsterism where might makes right is typical of BN and sanctioned by Hindraf but PR must not stoop to their level.
Otherwise what will stop the state govt from taking over any private land by force and pay peanuts in compensation? Is this the sort of govt that the Penang people want?
The issue is current and it is in current government hands to resolve this. I hate to be in current government shoes but it is up to them to be able to resolve this with the Federal government. In a democratic country usually this can be resolved because state and Federal will try to be on the rakyat side but with BN as our Federal government they are more interested in screwing PR than helping rakyat. So, this is a chance for BN to show they have a heart after Chin Peng screw up, Kugan death screw up… However, I don’t believe they can make a wise decision.
Have you ever had your home threatened to be bull dozed down? These so-called “sickening” people are the poor and down-trodden. I think you should be more restrained in your comments! These are the desperate and poor, terrified and seeking for someone, anyone to help them save their homes! They have nowhere else to go! It is only fair that current government of the day assist them in resolving this issue. LGE has to inherit the good and the bad. He should stop whining and start working. I think the people are quite tired about the BN bashing from PKR, people need to see some results or at the least, some attempt being made at achieving results. I know that there has been too many years of s*** in the BN govt but LGE has to start from somewhere.
Again the the Hindraf chief in London threatening the Penang Govt. and calling LGE Racist. Please be fair and don`t be so demanding. Don`t assume that LGE is Racist and pushibg the bug to his deputies. I am very disappointed with your approach to this problem. Can`t you damn well see who caused this problem and their motives. Things cannot be done overnight. There are laws and obstacles confronting LGE. There is now a months reprieve and just see what can be done. You seem to always threatening PKR, LGE, DAP etc. to change hindraf`s support. I think you and HIndraf go support BN and see what they do. More than 50 years of BN what did you`ll get? …. nothing except for Velu and and Gang. Please for God`s sake be reasonable and polite. Go threaten KTK, Gerakan, BN etc. This problem is caused by the DEVIL. Use your brains lah …………………
Only registered houses and only the owner of the house received compensation. The villagers demanded that all extended families, brothers, sisters, uncles, aunties,grandfathers, grandmothers, and tenants,in the house also to be compensated. They think that the developer is a charity and welfare organisations to give everything for free . The unregistered houses as they called it now are only cow sheds build for cows and they are demanding to be compesated. The descendands of this village today are no more cattle rearers. Some are professionals and some working with reasonable pay. Get your own houses.
First I occupy someone else’s land illegally
Then after a few years, I conveniently assume that it is mine
I then assume it is my right to stay on it forever
The government did not do anything, in fact they even provided me with water and electricity
Then the actual owner wanted it back
I said…no way…this is my land…pay me and I would move out
The owner, out of goodwill, decided to pay
I said not enough, pay me more…..
If there is wrongdoing in the transfer, of course I would support action taken ! Maybe someone is confusing the duty of the state to help the poor own affordable housing with the right to squat on someone else’s land. The breaching of a contract entered into is madness (unless it is proven to involve wrongdoing in court, no less). And yes, should the tenants receive good grants of title, then they have to pay. So far, the questionable transfer is the only thing they have going for them, and it will not be easy to prosecute.
Until that happens, there is nothing the state govt can do as the transfer is done and dusted. Can the state stop the demolition? On what grounds? Or simply stop “because they can?” Won’t this be the thing that opens the government to lawsuits (I’ll bet there are enough lawyers who will say the state government can win before the case goes to court but will back out if they are asked to stump up the money!)
Or does Waytha and his Hindraf backers want to write down a guarantee for this amount? After all, if they lose the money, it is “for the people” too. Just make sure it is enough. What’s the matter, is this proposition only for the state coffers and not for Hindraf? It is as if they haven’t dealt with the courts before. The state is already stumping up million for an ongoing land case. Or is talking bull as if the state has got oilfields offshore a Hindraf trademark? They have got a Federal Court order (by fair means or foul). Anything the state government does will be bound by that.
Does anyone in Hindraf have any idea apart from threats and legalising these squatters? If no, then Waytha should shut up and just go to Wimbledon to watch the tennis! If the Rent Control Act took its course in due time, so will this case!
Just like in the Tg Bungah case, I say if they want to vote BN next election, LET THEM ! It suits their mentality just fine. No problems for me. Things will be all rosy and they can welcome back Koh and his UMNO goons who presided over the sorry affair.
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They are barking up the wrong tree. It was the previous state govt who sold their land. They should be demonstrating outside Gerakan’s office!
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HINDRAF must not threaten but find out who is the real culprit. I am not an indian but I support the Indian cause 100%. LGE will definately do something but please you HINDRAF people please realise the that PKR is for equality for all races. As for this problem I simpatise but don`t you worry Justice will prevail in the end. Right now, BN & Gerakan (KTK) motive is to cause discontent and hope the Indians go back to BN So Hindraf , be strong and let LGE find a way. This the S*** that LGE has to clean.
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Don’t you just loathe and despise all money-grubbing opportunists who keep trying to convert our homeland, Tanah Benar, into “real estate”?
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who are the s*** in there??? demands,threatening etc.Think they are so great and powerful?? Brainless group of people. There should be water cannon etc to rid of this people. I am sick of this so call Malaysians
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Calling YB an office boy makes Darshan a worse of the lot
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For those criticizing the PR Penang govt. just remember if this is the BN govt. do you think the villagers will be able to see the DCM with their grouses? Or will the bulldozers be moving in backed by police and FRU?
The problem is created by the BN govt and all the mess thrown to the PR govt. The villagers should not think they are kings just because they voted PR. The state govt is trying to help them but they are being very rude and demanding.
The Penang govt must act within the law or they are no better than BN. Waytha Moorthy is suggesting that LGE forcibly acquire the land and compensate the developer at way below market price. This sort of political gangsterism where might makes right is typical of BN and sanctioned by Hindraf but PR must not stoop to their level.
Otherwise what will stop the state govt from taking over any private land by force and pay peanuts in compensation? Is this the sort of govt that the Penang people want?
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The issue is current and it is in current government hands to resolve this. I hate to be in current government shoes but it is up to them to be able to resolve this with the Federal government. In a democratic country usually this can be resolved because state and Federal will try to be on the rakyat side but with BN as our Federal government they are more interested in screwing PR than helping rakyat. So, this is a chance for BN to show they have a heart after Chin Peng screw up, Kugan death screw up… However, I don’t believe they can make a wise decision.
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hindraf cannot be trusted. count them out.
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Have you ever had your home threatened to be bull dozed down? These so-called “sickening” people are the poor and down-trodden. I think you should be more restrained in your comments! These are the desperate and poor, terrified and seeking for someone, anyone to help them save their homes! They have nowhere else to go! It is only fair that current government of the day assist them in resolving this issue. LGE has to inherit the good and the bad. He should stop whining and start working. I think the people are quite tired about the BN bashing from PKR, people need to see some results or at the least, some attempt being made at achieving results. I know that there has been too many years of s*** in the BN govt but LGE has to start from somewhere.
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Again the the Hindraf chief in London threatening the Penang Govt. and calling LGE Racist. Please be fair and don`t be so demanding. Don`t assume that LGE is Racist and pushibg the bug to his deputies. I am very disappointed with your approach to this problem. Can`t you damn well see who caused this problem and their motives. Things cannot be done overnight. There are laws and obstacles confronting LGE. There is now a months reprieve and just see what can be done. You seem to always threatening PKR, LGE, DAP etc. to change hindraf`s support. I think you and HIndraf go support BN and see what they do. More than 50 years of BN what did you`ll get? …. nothing except for Velu and and Gang. Please for God`s sake be reasonable and polite. Go threaten KTK, Gerakan, BN etc. This problem is caused by the DEVIL. Use your brains lah …………………
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Only registered houses and only the owner of the house received compensation. The villagers demanded that all extended families, brothers, sisters, uncles, aunties,grandfathers, grandmothers, and tenants,in the house also to be compensated. They think that the developer is a charity and welfare organisations to give everything for free . The unregistered houses as they called it now are only cow sheds build for cows and they are demanding to be compesated. The descendands of this village today are no more cattle rearers. Some are professionals and some working with reasonable pay. Get your own houses.
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First I occupy someone else’s land illegally
Then after a few years, I conveniently assume that it is mine
I then assume it is my right to stay on it forever
The government did not do anything, in fact they even provided me with water and electricity
Then the actual owner wanted it back
I said…no way…this is my land…pay me and I would move out
The owner, out of goodwill, decided to pay
I said not enough, pay me more…..
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If there is wrongdoing in the transfer, of course I would support action taken ! Maybe someone is confusing the duty of the state to help the poor own affordable housing with the right to squat on someone else’s land. The breaching of a contract entered into is madness (unless it is proven to involve wrongdoing in court, no less). And yes, should the tenants receive good grants of title, then they have to pay. So far, the questionable transfer is the only thing they have going for them, and it will not be easy to prosecute.
Until that happens, there is nothing the state govt can do as the transfer is done and dusted. Can the state stop the demolition? On what grounds? Or simply stop “because they can?” Won’t this be the thing that opens the government to lawsuits (I’ll bet there are enough lawyers who will say the state government can win before the case goes to court but will back out if they are asked to stump up the money!)
Or does Waytha and his Hindraf backers want to write down a guarantee for this amount? After all, if they lose the money, it is “for the people” too. Just make sure it is enough. What’s the matter, is this proposition only for the state coffers and not for Hindraf? It is as if they haven’t dealt with the courts before. The state is already stumping up million for an ongoing land case. Or is talking bull as if the state has got oilfields offshore a Hindraf trademark? They have got a Federal Court order (by fair means or foul). Anything the state government does will be bound by that.
Does anyone in Hindraf have any idea apart from threats and legalising these squatters? If no, then Waytha should shut up and just go to Wimbledon to watch the tennis! If the Rent Control Act took its course in due time, so will this case!
Just like in the Tg Bungah case, I say if they want to vote BN next election, LET THEM ! It suits their mentality just fine. No problems for me. Things will be all rosy and they can welcome back Koh and his UMNO goons who presided over the sorry affair.
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Could someone please confirm if the Housing Trust Act 1950 is current law or if it has been repealed. Thanks.
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