Tg Bunga hill-slope project problems unresolved

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Tanjung Bunga residents have been urging the MPPP to closely monitor what is going on in the Surin property development project on the steep hill-slopes facing Chee Seng Gardens.


Photos by Tanjung Bunga residents – Click icon on bottom right to expand to full-screen slideshow

After much effort by the residents in highlighting the issue of uncovered hill-slopes, the MPPP has taken some action and the contractor has now partially covered the slopes, more so on the higher slopes. But many patches remain uncovered.

The residents have also complained that work is being carried out at night, sometimes past 8.00pm. They want the Council to confirm if the developer is allowed to carry on work beyond 6.00pm.

The residents are also upset about a host of other project-related issues:

  • floods
  • blasting outside permitted times
  • blasting within five seconds of sounding the siren
  • flying rocks
  • failure to stop passing vehicles when the blasting siren goes off
  • absence of police, geotech and MPPP officials during blasting
  • extraction of rocks and earth without monitoring the lorries leaving the premises
  • incessant noise and nauseating diesel fumes
  • unmaintained retention ponds which may cause malaria
  • improperly maintained drains
  • overflowing retention ponds and mud and soil erosion into the sea whenever it rains

They are thus asking the Council to ensure that the developer follows all requirements to the letter.

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daniel
daniel

In Malaysia we see black and white colour only? So many project build on the high hill slope in the world. The biggest and tallest Jesus statue in Rio De Janeiro is on the hill slope.

So, enforcement in the past is always talking about “favours”. But PR government is not giving any “favour” as what my friend told me.

It is time to improve enforecement by “stringent engineering” practice. CAT is not against development, but with sound engineering practises applied in Building Industry.

Accountabilty
Accountabilty

The likes of Andrew and TBRA should have the decency to seek an accountability from KTK given that you lot had repeated voted him in as your assemblyman in pre March 2008 and by extension Penang’s CM.

He is after all, still an active politician aspiring to recapture Penang.

Don’t expect the rest of Penangites to cough up the dole when the developers sue should LGE revokes their projects which were approved by KTK.

kee
kee
Yang, thks. Penang is definitely in a better hand under Lim Guan Eng/DAP/Pakatan, so was Perak under Nizar/PAS/Pakatan. The developer paid off their bridging loan pretty quick, and I also note that their loan is not huge. Yes, the developer put the blame on the new administration, that is DAP, as a result of which they have to compensate the purchasers. It comes out to be quite a big chunk of money. During construction, I went to have a look and I noticed that the drains were very deep, I suppose they have no choice but to adhere to the… Read more »
malgal128
To: Yang I don’t live in Tg. Bungah but it doesn’t mean that I or anyone who does not live there should care less about the plight of the residents there. How would you feel if your house was flooded everytime there is rain? How would you feel if stone and rocks are flying around and endangering your property and family? How would you feel if the noise is disturbing your peace? I don’t live there but I feel the pain that these residents are going through. I hope that I won’t ever have to be in that situation. I… Read more »
kongkong
kongkong
Malgal Everyone has its own interest. Sometimes, things are small but writers love to hydrogen bomb them blowing them out of proportion. Like George saying trees are out of line. That is natural but houses maybe distances away and out of harm. On the other hand, there are many still living in slums and without proper housing. So you prefer them to continue to live in such sqalor conditions without opportunity. If the developer wanted to built, let him spend/invest his money. On one want to buy, then it is his problem just like you do not want to buy… Read more »
Gerakan K
Gerakan K

Well said, malgal123.
I like this sentence:
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LGE must do something more positive for the people coz they are the voters
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LGE, be warned that put your priority for us, the ordinary people instead of bosses of big business. I think YANG is possibly a cybertrooper from LGE/DAP/PR. He support everything for LGE administration.

Lim BC
Lim BC

Then you should be checking with Kanda or DID for your concerns before posting this half truth situation. When one read it, it really reflects very bad either on the state government or the federal government who sponsor the project. Is it fair to both parties?
I hope you realise the situation base on the reply of your posting. Or you purposely want to heat up the situation?

LimBC
LimBC
That’s the problem with some people here, they do complaint and at the same time, they have given the explaination etc, etc. But the problem with these people is that they do not except the government explaination, they just want the government to do it their ways. Like I said before, some of Anil’s posting are only half truth and this has lead all those silly and stupid accusations all over the place. Here are a few examples. 1) Another public space lost? – what a misleading statement. Anil should check with the authourity first to see what are they… Read more »
Reflections
Reflections

Kee,

The readers here are not blind, far from it. Some of them are just Gerakan / BN cronies who are finding it hard to adjust to life having now fallen off the gravy train.

We must have pity on these poor souls. Imagine no more access to cheap prime state land at RM 10 psf ala Buah Pala.

…..and you are so right. We never saw the pots and pans demonstrations during the umpteen years of that political eunuch KTK’s rule and he was their assemblyman and neighbour, no less !!!

kee
kee
I find it so funny, i didnt see any complaints or sorts during the 18 years of Gerakan or BN’s rule of Penang… However, since DAP/Pakatan took over Penang, suddenly, Pakatan is told, Cheap Minister LimGuanEng, you cant do this and you cant do that, the best is, Mr Cheap Minister, LImGuanEng, go back to Melaka because you are not a Penangnite. I was thinking, truly, stupid people give stupid remarks… Dont know why most of our politicians when they open their mouths, you cant hear anything actually but piles and piles of rubbish just roll out… To be fair… Read more »
Yang
Yang

Kee,
Your developer is lying when he tried to pin the blame on the DAP. His projects must have some financial problem and that it must fulfilled certain conditions and criteria such as completion of the drain, road and other amenities before the OC is issued. I brought an apartment in May 2007 and the project which was started in 2006 was completed in Dec 2007. The OC was issued in March 2009. If until now the OC has not come out, you better check out his financial status and whether certain things that need to be done has been done.

Yang
Yang

Sorry, the OC was issued in March 2008

Ong Eu Soon

If LGE can not ensure that MPPP enforce the MSMA requirement, he should just forget about hill slope development. Why until now, LGE still refuse to enforce the MSMA requirement? All we ask is just be a law abiding state government. Follow the law. You want DEVELOPMENT. Fine. Just follow the law, implement whatever measures as required by the MSMA to prove that you are different from BN. You are not from BN why try to compete to be BN or another KTK?

Chew Fong Kuan
Chew Fong Kuan
This message is for TBRA and the organisers of the protest of the Solok Tan Jit Seng development. 1. 60 protestors in not enough to get the state government to listen. Make it 600 or better 6000 people. 2. TBRA must cast the net wider and invite more people from Hillside, especially those in Jln Marie Pitchat, Haji Rafaie, Loh Poh Heng, Bunga Okid, Tan Jit Seng, Cheah Phee Cheok….ie those living at the foot of the Pearl Hill in their multi-million dollar homes. 3. Those rich people in their multi-million dollar homes at Hillside are influential and have the… Read more »
George Aeria
George Aeria
Dear All, Do look at the tree line in the 1st Photograph. That was where the hill slope was. It has since been cut and moved into what you see in the current photographs. NO one denies the fact that development must happen. However, residents in Chee Seng are against Dangerous Hill Slope development that put us residents in danger of possible future land slides. We are also against any developer coming & developing and causing the many hazards as listed out in Anil’s article. Finally we are appalled at MPPP’s lack of monitoring, control and enforcement of the requirements… Read more »
KM
KM

People, talk is free.

What you want the present gomen to do, stop the project pay compensation to the developer? You and I (as Penangites) will bear the costs, of course the environmental costs too. I am not supporting PAKATAN here or BN, but, fact is fact, it was approved by who? You know better.

Ong Eu Soon

Hi why to enforce the MSMA? Why follow the footsteps of BN counter parts? LGE where is your wisdom and gut?

Ong Eu Soon
38.4 GENERIC GUIDELINES 38.4.1 Minimising Soil Erosion 1. Before development begins, preventative measures shall be put in place to minimise erosion through the preparation of: (i) a preliminary Site Evaluation (PSE) (ii) an Erosion and Sediment Control Plan (ESCP) Erosion and Sediment Control Plans are discussed in detail in Chapter 41. 2. Reducing the working area: The working area for various facilities within a development site should be kept to less than twice the plan area of the building. 3. Regulate phases of development: The development schedule must be clearly defined. The completion date for each phase of development shall… Read more »
kongkong
kongkong

Ong

You put Aussie Football Rules into malaysian context. We watch FIFA football and not Australian football. So why use Victoria Rules heree. You are totally bankrupt.

Ong Eu Soon

Stupid that is not the Aussie rule! That is the guideline MSMA took from Victoria state.

kingkong
kingkong

If were to follow Vic, then DID fail in all respecrt. The drainoff quality, DID never implement. So what is the big MSM if they never look in the discharge water qaulity.

Ong Eu Soon
(b) Land Clearing Measures 1. Logs should be removed in such a manner as to reduce erosion. 2. Only relatively small areas should be cleared at any one time. 3. Clearing should be scheduled to avoid likely periods of heavy rainfall. 4. Buffer strips should be left along all waterways. 5. All stream crossings should be protected. 6. Steep slopes should be monitored regularly for any sign of erosion or mass movement and remedial measures implemented immediately if required. All of you the LGE apologists please tell us did any of the above mentioned land clearing measures involving hill slope… Read more »
Yang
Yang
Ong There are rules and regulations with regards to hill slope development. An example is hill development can be approved on slope for a certain gradient only and trees chop down have to be replaced. You have alreday mentioned some. If you should find any lacking then its either the enforcement officer are sleeping or they are on the take. In that case shouldn`t you as a responsible Penangite make a complaint to MPPP,the Occupational & Safety Department or to any proper authorities for action. SAMG : There is a meet the people session with the MPPP every month or… Read more »
Ong Eu Soon

TBRA did that many times. Complaint after complaint to MPPP, what is the action? Shouldn’t LGE make sure that the developer comply to MSMA? Why until now he still refuse to implement the MSMA?

Ong Eu Soon
Below is an except from MSMA (Manual Saliran Alam Mesra) 38.3.7 Hillslope Development (a) Planning Guidelines 1. For extensive developments, soil and geological surveys should be undertaken. 2. The development of slopes with high potential for landslides should be avoided. 3. All cut and fill slopes should be stabilised immediately after construction by means of appropriate drainage and vegetative cover. 4. Road construction should be kept to a minimum. From the pix, pls tell us whether the project violate any of the guidelines or not? “The development of slopes with high potential for landslides should be avoided.” This project site… Read more »
kongkong
kongkong

Ong

Again you insult the professional – the Engineers this time. The Engineers have a Board just like the Doctors. The Engineers and Doctors are both regulated by our UMNO/Gerakan Government for 50 years. If they deviate, you can lodge the complain to the Board that they are not acting professionally. Either you are in total ignornant or trying to score points.

Ong Eu Soon

The MSMA has been gazetted since 2001. BN refuse to enforce it. Now LGE also refuse to enforce it. What is the rational?

kingkong
kingkong

If you are a Engineer your licence must be kopi o. You so takut if the Geotech has done his design using Plaxis 3D. The Engineer not only design but also supervise the construction.

About MSMA they are rubbish. They cannot different between a silt trap and sedmentation pond. They did not account for different type of soil. Imagine Malajis approve silt trap.

Again you insult the profeesional Engineer. What is your reg No, I report to the Engr Board for your imcomepency.

Ong Eu Soon

I am an Engineer by profession! What are you talking about. On my free time, I am an ancient oriental medicine man. When your LGE refuse to enforce the MSMA, you blame the engineers for what?

looes74
looes74

Me too……Ah so, all houses in Hong Kong should be banned

PR Man
PR Man
No thanks for your support Gerakan K, we are definitely impartial citizens of Malaysia and we work towards the betterment of Malaysians at large. We do not need the support of people who spews half truth and mostly lies, like you. To work towards a better Malaysia, everyone must sacrifice and the Rakyat had started since 308 and are prepared for the worst. If not for the bad management and the total screw up of the State administration led by Gerakan and BN, our children will not be looking to work outside Penang, unless of course if they can get… Read more »
Ong Eu Soon
Here we are talking about an environmental issue. Why LGE apologists can not understand the seriousness of the problem. Any landslide occurred in all those areas, who will ultimately bear the responsibility? You want to blame Andrew Aeria or George Aeria or Anil or me for highlighting the issue? You seriously think LGE will be blameless if something bad happen? You guy have no gut to debate the issue in the proper context except surrender your rights as citizen of the state to LGE. Worst all of us are chose to be anonymous, dare not reveal your true identity. You… Read more »
Orang Penang
Orang Penang

Hi guys,

have a look here..

http://www.apartment-penang.com/2009/11/proposals-wanted-for-development-of.html

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Quoted from the article as below

The Penang state government is looking to
invite proposals for the development of five
parcels of land on the island and on the
mainland, according to a CIMB Research report
on Nov 5.

Gurney Drive Offshore — proposed reclamation
of land along Gurney Drive;and Relau/Paya Terubong Hill on a 400-acre plot with an elevation of 250ft to 1,700ft with a good view of Georgetown.

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-Proposed gurney drive reclamation of land? Means PORR is on? What the!!!

-Relau/Paya Terubong Hill, Majestic Heights/Green Garden are massive failures and you wanna built more?
Later landslide how?

Rhino
Rhino
From where I live, I get a bird’s eye view of the development. When the wind howl and the rain pour like last night, I wonder if the people in those houses at the foothill of the development are able to sleep. I wonder too of those people in the apartments directly beside it. And the poor workers who live in that construction site we forget. There are women and children living on that hill, and I see them walking around on the sliced off barren hill slope. They are living in deplorable and dangerous conditions. If this is not… Read more »
Gerakan K
Gerakan K

Well said, PR Man. What a impartial view from PR camp. Possibly LGE administration will wait until something happened (lost of life or else) and react then, just because they know that there are plenty blind supporters behind his passive administration. Please wake up LGE or someone please send memo to his assistant. We simply cannot wait until massive landslide occurred.

Yang
Yang

Well look who is talking, its always the BN that waits for something to happen. The highland condominium, the recent bridge mishap where 3 children were killed, highway landslide a few year ago and so many you can think of…….. And if something were to happen to some of the hill slope condo, please don`t blame it on PR or LGE. Its been built in the days of Zero KPI Gerakan KTK unless those built after GE08

PR Man
PR Man
dav, that is it, we had been voting PAS since God knows when, even before you are aware of the goodness of a two party system to Malaysia. Together we are going to chart the future of a brighter and better Malaysia, rather than listening to the non stop propaganda by the political elites. The journey is long and difficult one and many may not see the success of this plan, but, together we can make a difference dav. I am glad and I assume you are with the same team and share the same ideology, that is to see… Read more »
Be Positive
Be Positive
Cute dav, I am, and never will be associated with the “dacing”. Had been a PAS man since I started voting! I mean I am not condemming or criticising for the sake of doing it, but really, how will you feel if you are staying in Chee Seng Garden. If you had been to the site, along the road and further up, you can see the damage done to the environment and the danger it poses. The whole stretch of road is really in danger if further developments are allowed. Just see the condos on those hillslopes and you feel… Read more »
dav
dav

PR Man is Gerakan!!!!

looes74
looes74
Frankly, if you look at the dynamics of Penang politics. Nobody would dare to let DAP to lose Not if Gerakan could only stand in 13 seats Perhaps, we should ask Anil the Great, who to solve the problem practically. It’s great to highlight issues. But like people say, No money No Honey Even the Great Deng says To be rich is Glorious. You won’t be surprised that people like George Aurea & Sugumaran are singing those tunes too Anyway, me like the Benjamins in the Animal Farm would look wryly on this. That’s even the Great Anil becomes CM,… Read more »
lucia
lucia

oops sorry wrong link. that link links to CJ.MY without pictures. if wanna see pictures, please go direct to my reflections blog.

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