From a source, I hear that the following compensation was offered to the villagers at tonight’s meeting:
Two-storey cluster houses: upstairs – 600 square feet; downstairs – 600 sq feet; outside porch, etc – 200 sq feet.
The developer would allocate 0.7 acres of the 6.5 acres for the villagers’ houses.
No compensation for temporary rental reimbursement while the project is ongoing.
A few may have agreed; others, who may have a few families living under one roof, are uncertain.
Instead of this 0.7 acres, the residents had asked the state for two acres of adjacent land. But they were told that that was state reserve land and it would create a bad precedent. This they felt was unfair, given the unique circumstances of this case.
Meanwhile, they have a date with the Federal Court on 18 August on one side, while on the other, the developer has given them until Friday to leave.
Good job to LGE for getting such a good compensation deal. Look forward to a safer penang without cattle crossing our streets killing people like what happened to my beloved aunty a few years ago. That was a price too huge to pay for heritage.
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//watch out…there is at least one SPOILER in the committee.
look closer…it is obvious.
4RAKYAT//
one spoiler only?Once gain,HINDRAF/MAKKAL SAKTI/MIC bluffS have have succeded in convincing/brainwashing the settlers.Oh,World wide community is going to save Buah Pala..Waytha,Uthya going to appeal to world governing body to save buah pala,samy going to give the RM3.2 million,bla bla bla.The settlers are not aware that LGE and Pakatan are aware of their details.Come on lah,a person rearing cows is a poor fella kah?Everday they are insulting LGE,and DAP(Look at the posters at Buah pala).It’s very clear,MIC/HINDRAF/MAKKAL SAKTI are using this issue to for thier own olitical agendas.
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Greedy. Take it idiot and stop complaining. you think you want something like toyo palace??? S***!!!!!
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Mr rajan as a villager of KBP yourself, you are well verse with what is happening around you in the village than any of us here commenting.By accepting this compensation, it is really brave/great sacrifice on your part.But we must have a positive view of every bad things that happen to make us stronger to move forward.You still get to stay in KBP ground, have new house( better quality ),good investment in new house( imagine few years down the line,how much the house will go up in velue),maybe this time you guys will wise up and on your own set up your own heritage/cultare in this area after all so much history has been make during these past month.
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The developer wants to resolve the issue at hand. The state government wants to resolve it, so does the residents. It is only those “spoilers” planted in the committee which want to see this mayhem continue – perhaps to bring down the DAP-led state government. Bring Koh Tsu Koon into the picture, I say!
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If there are no third parties supporting the residents, do you think they being cowherds would have the bad manners to call for LGE to quit? I am sure there are hidden hands. I just pray the residents wake up from the spell of these troublemakers. I have lost my respect for MIC/Makkal Sakthi/Hindraf although I walked with them in their rally. They have since then shown their true colours. Its not Malaysian Malaysia they want, its HINDRAF Malaysia…
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Anil, looks like you are suppressing opinions not in line with yours? I have not posted anything seditious but it looks like you delete my posts because of what I wrote is against your own belief? Tell me not.
I dont remember deleting your posts. So many comments here – even those that are critical of my views.
You can see a lot of opposing and different views here. I do edit comments that are problematic and even delete a few, but not many. – Anil
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The compensation is miserly. A typical house could now be constructed at around RM40 per square feet with average material. If the house is constructed using hollow bricks and poor finishing then it could be a lot less. So the value of the compensation came to about RM 48,000. If cheap material and workmanship is used than it could be much lower. Would the house be on leasehold land or freehold land ? Would subdivided individual titles be given ? Could the owners sell without the permission of the developer ?
The deal stinks ! LGE should pursue the avenue of fraud but unfortunately he seemed to be wishing that the problem would go away soon.
(Many) seemed to agree that there was fraud and if so why is the pr government being held ransom by the civil servants…? Either lge lead and guide the civil service or the civil service will run circles around him.
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Good Job LGE, only those who are greedy will reject the offer. Some years back, I was compensate for 600 sq ft apartment for my 12 family members. What more they are asking for?
If MIC/HINDRAF/MAKKAL SAKTI arer really sincere in wanting to help Indian, pull their resources together and fight / buy from the the actual land owner. Don’t always want other people to do your way.
Any how, the state PR govenrment is doing a very find job. Keep it up. we will always behing you.
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Hello S.Rajan (August 5th, 2009 at 10.36am)
Do re-read and think for a while the comment by remaja
LGE statement on “development order would be revoked” IS and the only possible way to force the developer to compromise and so the villagers will have some bargaining power.
Hey you S.Rajan, can you find other CM, menteri besar, or minister in history that had acted so fiecely just to defend the common people against the capitalist ?
LGE is very smart.
First, he let the villagers to try all legal means. But it has failed (i.e. the Federal Court backs the developer as the legitimate land owner. When this happened, almost all legal arguments such as there is caveat on the land, the owner cannot sell/transfer/etc clauses are deemed academic)
Now, LGE is trying out-of-court settlement which is favourable to the villagers but on the other hand a great slap for the developer.
I can see no wayang kulit here by LGE but instead it is a brilliant move. Now the developer is checkmated.
I can forsee the villagers happily owned a new house after losses a battle in Federal Court. S.Rajan you see, they (the villagers) have lost but still ended with a new house.
Don’t act dumb, S.Rajan. By Federal Court decision, the villagers are just the mere squatters. Any neutral people in race/politic must be grateful that there is a hero called LGE who engineered this miracle despite various hurdles.
To the kampung buah pala folks, take the consolation prize now before it is too late. The battle was over. Under the olympic standard, the developer takes silver and the villagers take bronse. While many of us will see LGE takes gold.
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Everyone … we should all be squatters with this kind of offers
GO occupy state land, and dont have to pay cukai pintu, dont have to spend hundreds of thousand to buy house and pay bank loan… when the time comes, just demonstrate and form human barriers and we will all get double storey houses
When they occupied the land, it wasn’t state land. – Anil
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Villagers LOST EVERYTHING in court. Be happy ADUN and CM have pampered them and got house compensation, using their salvos. Take it and leave / live peacefully.
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These village had been there for 200 years, and 50 years under bn? And nobody cared to fight for legal rights to the land for the past 200 years? They are in the same situation as the native NCR land in S’wak. They will just get bulldozed in finally.
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About preserving heritage:
If you really want to preserve heritage, then start with protecting our Malaysia’s rain forests…i see open burning everywhere.
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I was sympathatic towards the villagers, simply because of the previous BN govt elites having suspicious motive in this deal. There never will be a satisfaction to any side but, the lastest offer by the developers if it is true, the villagers should accept it…under unwinable circumstances on the side of the villagers. Legally, they have no ground to stay, take it or loose the public sympathy.
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Dear Anil,
I have propose this in your earlier post and I am go to say it again.
The folks of KBP want to continue with their present High Chapparal way of life and livelihoods. Relocate them! Obviously, not on the Island. There would be land in Seberang Prai suitable for High Chapparal.
If the PR (Pembangkang Rakyat) Government is sincere in resolving this issue, please do that. The PR government have the power to allocate Agriculture Land with TITLES to the KBP folks.
The developers have agreed to compensate!
This would be a win-win-win for ALL.
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This link was posted before, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhqlN9GXe-A .Anyway im posting it again for the commentators to think wisely and brush their memory before they comment.
Even a kid can interpret what PR leaders is telling the residents in KBP.
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2.6 hectares (land size of kg buah pala) equal to 6.42 acres
6.42 acres equal to 279,861.24 square feet
(1 acres equal to 43,560 square feet)
Land’s current value approx RM 150,000,000.00
as stated by DCM II P Ramasamy (Read STAR newspaper 30th July 09 page N20 “HOUSE AND HALL FOR VILLAGE FOLK”)
So 2.6 hectares equal to RM 150,000,000.00
or 6.42 acres equal to RM 150,000,000.00
or 279,861.24 square feet equal to RM 150,000,000.00
or 1.00 square feet equal to RM 535.00 (price before any building constructed on it, i presumed)
The question is
1) what is the price after developed?
2) is it logic for RM20 per square feet of land to increased by 2,625% (read two thousand six hundread and twenty five percent) in just a year or two (assuming the deal inked out just before PR take over or after that?)
3)Or the price is just a ‘make up’ by a “some body”? or by their ignorance
4) how about all of us go for real estate since it is very, very veryyyyy profitable
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pada pendapat saya para penduduk setinggan kg buah pala ambil lah peluang yg diberi pemaju itu,jangan lepaskan peluang itu daripada awak semua nak lawan dimahkamah yang sudah sah awak akan kalah.Jangan jadi tamak cuba fikir banyak kes kes setinggan diKL ,semua kena halau,rumah kena roboh,awak bernasib baik dibela oleh ramai NGO.
Harap faham ,saya tak pandai cakap mat salleh sebab saya orang kampung.
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Hey everyone, I’m going to look out for some idle land to squat on. Who knows perhaps in a few years I’ll get evicted and compensated in the process.
I’ll register my whole clan as living there so that I will get maximum returns.
Maybe you guys pay me a commission and I’ll list available kampung areas with potential.
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Why cant PKR just relocate the Kampung? I doubt the storey house offer, let the developer build it 1st then only talk. They might cheat on quality of the house. Build 1st then only demolish. And of course 1400 sq feet is not enough. Not a good deal.
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Anil is doing a great service with his news updates, so I appeal to all of you folks visiting his site to please be objective, fair and non-judgmental in your comments. Keep your racist, biased and opinionated views to yourself…. I agree that because this involves (a certain ethnic group), there’s no sympathy or empathy forthcoming from many groups who speak as though theirs is the word of logic and reason. And it is true that had it been a BN-controlled state, it would be a different story, with greater support and lobbying, as it would be too if it had been the plight of one of the other two main ethnic groups. It makes me sick that how terribly racial we are in this country! And please stop bashing Hindraf. What started as Police Watch against police cruelty and abuse eventually grew into the Nov 25 demo. Admittedly, the wording on their claims may not have been well chosen, but it is these Indians who bravely went out there in the thousands, and were met with utter brutality and abuse, followed by sham cases against them aimed at breaking their spirit and to ‘teach’ them never to protest again. An astute political observer can see how the ‘powers-that-be’ are employing various tactics to break this solidarity that brought the Indian people together. Just read the news and read between the lines and you will see it is true. Can anyone deny that it is this Nov 25 demo started by Hindraf that set off the chain of events that led to the change in the political scenario in our country, as well as the small changes the administration is making in reaching out to the neglected, marginalized and disgruntled population? If it is any help: for those who criticise the KBP villagers, try this: Imagine this is a problem that affected a people of your own race, and ask yourself how you will truly react/respond? Thank you.
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It is funny that some people here just can’t see the issue even after months of being in the news.
All they care is the preservation of LGE’s and DAP’s name. They don’t give a hoot to the poor vilagers or their plight. They are just wishing that the villagers just disappear in to the thin air so that DAP and LGE can carry on as normal with their CAT BS !
…all kind of offers and promises were made but later not fulfilled. It is obvious that this is a ruse to get the villagers out of the way of the bulldozers so that … the developers can start to build the luxury condo ASAP.
Once the houses are demolished, there is nothing to stop …. from breaking … promises….
Who knows what excuses he will give….
And even in the miraclous case where the houses are actually built, who knows what is the location or the quality of the houses ?…. They could make the houses such way that it is difficult for the villagers to live there freely.
You see, when the villagers are allocated just 10% of the land they have now, they cannot live freely and practicse their culture as now. They can’t keep cattle or organise other cultural activities with such puny space. Furthermore the size of the houses are so small that a typical villager’s family would not able to live there.
I said it before and said it again…this deal smells rat. KBP folks… demand that LGE keeps to his promises. Nothing more, nothing less.
No more CAT, no more BS please !!
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The orang asli got chased out of their land and nobody cares. they were there since centuries ago. so do u think that the govt cares if one is to claimed that their forefathers were staying on the land 200 years ago. they are ready to use the laws to back them so where does one stands. to go against the law is wrong but to accept it also means that their land is gone, it is alwasys a lose lose case for the poor citizens.
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