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		<title>By: penangpek</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2008 17:23:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Future of Penang is in the hand of all Penangites, if our brother and sister from Penang are willing to let Gerakan destroy their island through gradual environmental degradation process in monumental project like PGCC without a fight, then even GOD can&#039;t help them who choose not to help themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Future of Penang is in the hand of all Penangites, if our brother and sister from Penang are willing to let Gerakan destroy their island through gradual environmental degradation process in monumental project like PGCC without a fight, then even GOD can&#8217;t help them who choose not to help themselves.
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		<title>By: Born2reign</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 03:49:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Modernisation does not equate high-rise towers. Modernisation means there is a more efficient transportation for commuters and commercial goods, safe and clean environment (sewerage, waste disposals, etc), good ratio of green lungs in the city for community and social activities.

BN has always been one-track minded - CONSTRUCTION and MEGA PROJECTS (with 100% commission to cronies pockets). However, when it comes to maintenance and enforcement, it is sorely lacking.  Just check the many commercial areas in Puchong, Equine, Old Klang Road, Cheras, etc.  Highways are badly designed, causing MORE congestion, new roads are redrilled and repatched endless times, manhole covers missing, tiles of pavement walks broken and not repaired for years, flash floods (even with the UN-Smart tunnel)- I can go on and on.

I can illustrate the same for my hometown of Melaka. First the govt (Thamby Chick...) took a community football field (where Malaccans of all races play in) and turn it into a Light and Sound shoe ground.  We call it a blodd-sucking-mosquito-party show, who in their right mind wants to sit in open darkness and get stung by hundreds of mozzies while watching some stupid &quot;history&quot; with amateurish lights and shounds display?

They also proceeded to chop off the huge trees which are hundreds of years old, for these development of condomuniums and hotels, etc.  Now the famous Malacca seaside is no more, only in history books.

Of course they also have to change the Jonker St and Heeren St to Malay names, and which no Malaccans can remember, let alone tourists.  All in the name of &quot;wiping out British influences&quot; - and this is a town known for its historical heritage????  So by wiping out the history, can we still call it Historical Malacca?  Bodoh.

Thank God the bridge linking Malacca to Sumatera did not happen, otherwise it will be like Sabah (lots of immigrants with MyKad to vote for UMNO)

BN will not learn. They are only concerned with construction, not maintenance.  Please, Penangites, do not listen to the empty promises of &quot;Masters of Modernisation&quot;.

Buildings will not improve the standard of living.  It&#039;s racial harmony and unity that will.

In KL and Selangor, please come and visit the many empty ghost like building towers with no tenants. If the govt and municipals will just maintain the roads properly and fix broken lights, repairs all the schools, and keep crime low, I will be very happy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Modernisation does not equate high-rise towers. Modernisation means there is a more efficient transportation for commuters and commercial goods, safe and clean environment (sewerage, waste disposals, etc), good ratio of green lungs in the city for community and social activities.</p>
<p>BN has always been one-track minded &#8211; CONSTRUCTION and MEGA PROJECTS (with 100% commission to cronies pockets). However, when it comes to maintenance and enforcement, it is sorely lacking.  Just check the many commercial areas in Puchong, Equine, Old Klang Road, Cheras, etc.  Highways are badly designed, causing MORE congestion, new roads are redrilled and repatched endless times, manhole covers missing, tiles of pavement walks broken and not repaired for years, flash floods (even with the UN-Smart tunnel)- I can go on and on.</p>
<p>I can illustrate the same for my hometown of Melaka. First the govt (Thamby Chick&#8230;) took a community football field (where Malaccans of all races play in) and turn it into a Light and Sound shoe ground.  We call it a blodd-sucking-mosquito-party show, who in their right mind wants to sit in open darkness and get stung by hundreds of mozzies while watching some stupid &#8220;history&#8221; with amateurish lights and shounds display?</p>
<p>They also proceeded to chop off the huge trees which are hundreds of years old, for these development of condomuniums and hotels, etc.  Now the famous Malacca seaside is no more, only in history books.</p>
<p>Of course they also have to change the Jonker St and Heeren St to Malay names, and which no Malaccans can remember, let alone tourists.  All in the name of &#8220;wiping out British influences&#8221; &#8211; and this is a town known for its historical heritage????  So by wiping out the history, can we still call it Historical Malacca?  Bodoh.</p>
<p>Thank God the bridge linking Malacca to Sumatera did not happen, otherwise it will be like Sabah (lots of immigrants with MyKad to vote for UMNO)</p>
<p>BN will not learn. They are only concerned with construction, not maintenance.  Please, Penangites, do not listen to the empty promises of &#8220;Masters of Modernisation&#8221;.</p>
<p>Buildings will not improve the standard of living.  It&#8217;s racial harmony and unity that will.</p>
<p>In KL and Selangor, please come and visit the many empty ghost like building towers with no tenants. If the govt and municipals will just maintain the roads properly and fix broken lights, repairs all the schools, and keep crime low, I will be very happy.
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		<title>By: t</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 21:26:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Albert,

I am 21 and I am from Penang. I highly oppose the PGCC if it is going to be implemented in a manner that will cause further social and environmental problems. Indeed, this sort of development plan is inevitable for Penang island but really, if a development plan that claims to be sustainable is far from it, it would make things worse to disguise it underneath a blanket of environmental jargons.

Please think twice before making the statement that all or most young Penangites would support such a project. I for one know that a few of my friends share my sentiments. Many of my friends have in fact participated in heritage conservation activities in Penang. Seriously, think twice before making assumptions about young people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Albert,</p>
<p>I am 21 and I am from Penang. I highly oppose the PGCC if it is going to be implemented in a manner that will cause further social and environmental problems. Indeed, this sort of development plan is inevitable for Penang island but really, if a development plan that claims to be sustainable is far from it, it would make things worse to disguise it underneath a blanket of environmental jargons.</p>
<p>Please think twice before making the statement that all or most young Penangites would support such a project. I for one know that a few of my friends share my sentiments. Many of my friends have in fact participated in heritage conservation activities in Penang. Seriously, think twice before making assumptions about young people.
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		<title>By: Pigeon</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2007 09:56:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The success of the project depends on how well the state government can restraint anymore encroachment of run-in-the-mill redevelopment into older parts of Penang. While the PGCC is somewhat close to Georgetown, Singapore have proven that it is able to maintain and refurbish entire pre-war neighbourhoods beside redeveloped commercial centres. Kuala Lumpur, Malacca and Georgetown, on the other hand, have shown the complete opposite: Unregulated development with no proper official planning areas, and no effort to designate heritage areas (as opposed to just individual buildings). I&#039;ve seen what KLCC has done to the immediate surrounding (the recent demolition of the Bok House comes in mind; something about soaring land value); imagine what happens to Batu Gantong if this form of mega-project and subsequent developments nearby aren&#039;t properly controlled.

With regards to the ORR, KL&#039;s transport system, in particular, even with its many expressways, is still not enough to address congestion due to excess sprawl outside KL and overwhelming car use, while public transport is still patchy in coverage and inefficient outside the city. With additional linkage to the mainland, how will Penang coup, even with the ORR?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The success of the project depends on how well the state government can restraint anymore encroachment of run-in-the-mill redevelopment into older parts of Penang. While the PGCC is somewhat close to Georgetown, Singapore have proven that it is able to maintain and refurbish entire pre-war neighbourhoods beside redeveloped commercial centres. Kuala Lumpur, Malacca and Georgetown, on the other hand, have shown the complete opposite: Unregulated development with no proper official planning areas, and no effort to designate heritage areas (as opposed to just individual buildings). I&#8217;ve seen what KLCC has done to the immediate surrounding (the recent demolition of the Bok House comes in mind; something about soaring land value); imagine what happens to Batu Gantong if this form of mega-project and subsequent developments nearby aren&#8217;t properly controlled.</p>
<p>With regards to the ORR, KL&#8217;s transport system, in particular, even with its many expressways, is still not enough to address congestion due to excess sprawl outside KL and overwhelming car use, while public transport is still patchy in coverage and inefficient outside the city. With additional linkage to the mainland, how will Penang coup, even with the ORR?
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		<title>By: alfred ho</title>
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		<dc:creator>alfred ho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 15:21:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear marina,

As the Almighty has given your father a new lease of life, and being the fair-minded person that you are, please impress upon him to turn over a new leaf when he has fully recovered, by exposing all the corrupt ministers and top government officials in his previous cabinet. Maybe you could even advice him to return all his ill-gotten gains to all of us poor Malaysians, and at the same time, shed light on the Lingamgate scandal as he may have played a pivotal role in this matter. With hari raya being just around the corner, I think that the time is right for your father to bury the hatchet with Anwar Ibrahim and let bygones be bygones and enlighten us as to what really transpired during Anwar&#039;s ouster. Like all other right thinking Malaysians, I hope that Mahathir will truly repent of all his wrongdoings and make restitution to all his fellow citizens wherever possible. May I take this golden opportunity of wishing your father a speedy recovery and to wish both you and your family a very selamat hari raya.

Yours faithfully,

Alfred Ho.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear marina,</p>
<p>As the Almighty has given your father a new lease of life, and being the fair-minded person that you are, please impress upon him to turn over a new leaf when he has fully recovered, by exposing all the corrupt ministers and top government officials in his previous cabinet. Maybe you could even advice him to return all his ill-gotten gains to all of us poor Malaysians, and at the same time, shed light on the Lingamgate scandal as he may have played a pivotal role in this matter. With hari raya being just around the corner, I think that the time is right for your father to bury the hatchet with Anwar Ibrahim and let bygones be bygones and enlighten us as to what really transpired during Anwar&#8217;s ouster. Like all other right thinking Malaysians, I hope that Mahathir will truly repent of all his wrongdoings and make restitution to all his fellow citizens wherever possible. May I take this golden opportunity of wishing your father a speedy recovery and to wish both you and your family a very selamat hari raya.</p>
<p>Yours faithfully,</p>
<p>Alfred Ho.
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		<title>By: alfred ho</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 15:20:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Anil,

I wish here to relate an incident to you for your amusement. Recently, a private tv station invited me to participate in a reality tv show to highlight the talents of the disabled community where some recordings have already been made for the programme through my participation. However, when the tv authorities visited my blog and found out that I am critical of the government, I was unceremoniously dropped from the show. When I brought this matter to the attention of Malaysiakini, their investigative reporter was told by the tv authorities that the programme was only meant to highlight the talents of muslim handicapped people. It is quite obvious that I was dropped from the programme because of my political views, and not for the lame excuse which they gave to Malaysiakini. Unfortunately, Malaysiakini took their explanation for the gospel truth, and as such, has decided not to follow up with the matter. As we all know, all the tv stations in Malaysia are controlled and owned by the government and their cronies. I have come to the conclusion that the tv station&#039;s management has dropped me from the show because of my dissenting views towards the government. This is certainly laughable, don&#039;t you think? Finally Anil, please share this email with your many readers, so that they can have a better understanding of this very dictatorial, discriminatory and inefficient government.

Yours sincerely,

Alfred Ho.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Anil,</p>
<p>I wish here to relate an incident to you for your amusement. Recently, a private tv station invited me to participate in a reality tv show to highlight the talents of the disabled community where some recordings have already been made for the programme through my participation. However, when the tv authorities visited my blog and found out that I am critical of the government, I was unceremoniously dropped from the show. When I brought this matter to the attention of Malaysiakini, their investigative reporter was told by the tv authorities that the programme was only meant to highlight the talents of muslim handicapped people. It is quite obvious that I was dropped from the programme because of my political views, and not for the lame excuse which they gave to Malaysiakini. Unfortunately, Malaysiakini took their explanation for the gospel truth, and as such, has decided not to follow up with the matter. As we all know, all the tv stations in Malaysia are controlled and owned by the government and their cronies. I have come to the conclusion that the tv station&#8217;s management has dropped me from the show because of my dissenting views towards the government. This is certainly laughable, don&#8217;t you think? Finally Anil, please share this email with your many readers, so that they can have a better understanding of this very dictatorial, discriminatory and inefficient government.</p>
<p>Yours sincerely,</p>
<p>Alfred Ho.
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		<title>By: jeffrey chew</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Oct 2007 02:44:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blog Action Day - write your piece on how you feel about this project. Get a free blog, sign up facebook, mobilize your uncles and aunties to talk about this project. Sooner or later, they will need more than a simple communication company.

www.blogactionday.org - incidentally, Oct 15 - write all about the environment. There is a case in point here. I will be doing that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blog Action Day &#8211; write your piece on how you feel about this project. Get a free blog, sign up facebook, mobilize your uncles and aunties to talk about this project. Sooner or later, they will need more than a simple communication company.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.blogactionday.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.blogactionday.org</a> &#8211; incidentally, Oct 15 &#8211; write all about the environment. There is a case in point here. I will be doing that.
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		<title>By: anilnetto</title>
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		<dc:creator>anilnetto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 11:11:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, publicity could be improved. Meanwhile, there are several websites you can check for info on future events: aliran.com, pht.org.my and penangwatch.net/pgcc</description>
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		<title>By: christina anne</title>
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		<dc:creator>christina anne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 10:45:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>can future forums/meetings like this be disseminated to more penangnites. i for one did not know about this</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>can future forums/meetings like this be disseminated to more penangnites. i for one did not know about this
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		<title>By: paolo</title>
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		<dc:creator>paolo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Oct 2007 09:38:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Desmind

Its the balance of powers we strive to achieve</description>
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<p>Its the balance of powers we strive to achieve
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