Comments on: Climate signs “surpass worst-case scenarios” http://anilnetto.com/economy/development-issues/climate-change-surpasses-worst-case-scenarios/ Let justice flow like a mighty river Sun, 12 Feb 2012 15:45:54 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: detoxdietguy http://anilnetto.com/economy/development-issues/climate-change-surpasses-worst-case-scenarios/comment-page-1/#comment-32476 detoxdietguy Fri, 02 Oct 2009 12:47:20 +0000 http://anilnetto.com/?p=15531#comment-32476 recently, there has been some massive flooding in the Philippines and Vietnam which i think is also due to Climate Change. the tropical storms in asia are somewhat getting stronger stronger each year. recently, there has been some massive flooding in the Philippines and Vietnam which i think is also due to Climate Change. the tropical storms in asia are somewhat getting stronger stronger each year.

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]]> By: kingkong http://anilnetto.com/economy/development-issues/climate-change-surpasses-worst-case-scenarios/comment-page-1/#comment-32335 kingkong Wed, 30 Sep 2009 11:25:00 +0000 http://anilnetto.com/?p=15531#comment-32335 Soohauy When many were killed in Victoria Bushfire, the greenies under the extreme left Senator Brown were very quiet over the incidence. But when Howard was running the show, they are behaving just like you- frenzy. When the Labour party did not fulfil their election promise as to cut down the carbon output, they are still quiet. Clearly, the greenies are a selfish lot with their agendas. I know many talk about green environment. But they also loves to drive gas guzzling cars during weekends, expansive imported food involving heavy carbon footprints Soohauy
When many were killed in Victoria Bushfire, the greenies under the extreme left Senator Brown were very quiet over the incidence. But when Howard was running the show, they are behaving just like you- frenzy. When the Labour party did not fulfil their election promise as to cut down the carbon output, they are still quiet. Clearly, the greenies are a selfish lot with their agendas. I know many talk about green environment. But they also loves to drive gas guzzling cars during weekends, expansive imported food involving heavy carbon footprints

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]]> By: soohuey http://anilnetto.com/economy/development-issues/climate-change-surpasses-worst-case-scenarios/comment-page-1/#comment-32315 soohuey Wed, 30 Sep 2009 09:23:40 +0000 http://anilnetto.com/?p=15531#comment-32315 I see.... People wanted "to do some clearing" and "greenies said cannot even fell a single tree". "The fire fighters have to dose every ambers". You have taught me so much about how Australia manages its land and how CFA controlled the fire. You're truly learned. There is nothing Soohuay or anyone else can teach you. I see…. People wanted “to do some clearing” and “greenies said cannot even fell a single tree”. “The fire fighters have to dose every ambers”. You have taught me so much about how Australia manages its land and how CFA controlled the fire. You’re truly learned. There is nothing Soohuay or anyone else can teach you.

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]]> By: kingkong http://anilnetto.com/economy/development-issues/climate-change-surpasses-worst-case-scenarios/comment-page-1/#comment-32311 kingkong Wed, 30 Sep 2009 08:44:53 +0000 http://anilnetto.com/?p=15531#comment-32311 Soohuay your actions show greenies are very rash, emtional, not rational and quick to anger. You even do not know the first basic, fundamental principles. How can fire burn vast areas without wood? People wanted to do some clearing. But there are greenies said cannot even fell a single tree!!! What bushy you are talking? The fire fighters have to dose every ambers what the fire may start again. Greenies are just making fires without wood!!! Soohuay

your actions show greenies are very rash, emtional, not rational and quick to anger.

You even do not know the first basic, fundamental principles. How can fire burn vast areas without wood? People wanted to do some clearing. But there are greenies said cannot even fell a single tree!!! What bushy you are talking? The fire fighters have to dose every ambers what the fire may start again.

Greenies are just making fires without wood!!!

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]]> By: soohuey, not soohuay http://anilnetto.com/economy/development-issues/climate-change-surpasses-worst-case-scenarios/comment-page-1/#comment-32304 soohuey, not soohuay Wed, 30 Sep 2009 07:27:56 +0000 http://anilnetto.com/?p=15531#comment-32304 @kingkong September 29th, 2009 at 8.27pm: I can't believe you're using Victoria bushfires as an example!!! It just shows how blatantly naive you are!! Country Victoria has suffered tremendously over the past decade because of falling of trees for monoculture plantations. The result is that the land is unable to retain as much water. Cutting of trees contributes to why the land is so dry!!!! Don't speak when you don't know what you're talking about! HAVE YOU SEEN COUNTRY VICTORIA??? DO YOU KNOW HOW IT IS LIKE THERE??! Each time I go back, it gets worse and worse. When they cut the trees, the remnants are just left lying there. Land that has been stripped of growing trees are still left with remnant wood that ALSO BURNS when there is a fire!! When you see how country Victoria is like now, it is like the land is being *raped*! It is so painful that even though I'm only a visitor, thinking of it brings tears to my eyes. I know farmers in country Victoria and one family is like blood family to me. Their pain and uncertainty is something the likes of you will never understand, but will still ignorantly make assumptions and naive statements about. Unlike *ignorant fools*, people who understand the plight of these people (including "Greenies") don't make *unnecessary noise*. There was already so much grief. The focus was on helping the communities rebuild themselves and providing support for survivors. If Greenies made noise then, they would just be opportunists! You have no clue how the feeling was like in the aftermath. Victoria has been in a drought for decades. Deforestation or not, it is a very dry exhausted land. Changes in our climate is making it worse. Everyone knows that. There is no need for sustainability groups to blow their trumpets. The urgency highlighted in the post-mortem is focused on emergency response. There will be fires in Victoria for many years to come. Btw, what are you saying?? That "Greenies" contributed to the bushfires because they opposed deforestation? So we should clear all forests to avoid bushfires?! Are you going to start campaigning for all trees on Penang Hill to be cut down and completely removed in case there is a fire? You're a such clever person. BN would love you as their adviser. You'll fit right in! Your mention of kangaroo meat once again shows how ignorant you are. Please see links below and don't compare them with whales. You're such a laugh. http://www.abc.net.au/science/features/skippysizeme/ http://www.ecosmagazine.com/?act=view_file&file_id=EC145p26.pdf http://www.sciencealert.com.au/news/20092004-19032-2.html Also, I don't think you're from Penang. If you are, you will know about all the highrise buildings mushrooming on the island and how we can't possibly have that many people to occupy these buildings. We aren't building buildings for housing, but for foreign (and some local) investors. I'm no economist, but supply will soon exceed demand and we will just have empty buildings that only serves as an eye sore to our skyline. ==================================================== I'm sorry Anil and everyone else if my comment above is more angry than my usual ones. Kingkong's inaccurate and uninformed use of such a terrible tragedy such as the Black Saturday Bushfire was insensitive and inappropriate. I guess the moral of the story is that everyone who brush aside environmental and sustainablity issues because they think they understand all the issues and know better should do their research and actually understand the complexity of debates before making up their minds and making loud statements (aka noise). @kingkong September 29th, 2009 at 8.27pm:

I can’t believe you’re using Victoria bushfires as an example!!! It just shows how blatantly naive you are!! Country Victoria has suffered tremendously over the past decade because of falling of trees for monoculture plantations. The result is that the land is unable to retain as much water. Cutting of trees contributes to why the land is so dry!!!!

Don’t speak when you don’t know what you’re talking about! HAVE YOU SEEN COUNTRY VICTORIA??? DO YOU KNOW HOW IT IS LIKE THERE??! Each time I go back, it gets worse and worse. When they cut the trees, the remnants are just left lying there. Land that has been stripped of growing trees are still left with remnant wood that ALSO BURNS when there is a fire!! When you see how country Victoria is like now, it is like the land is being *raped*! It is so painful that even though I’m only a visitor, thinking of it brings tears to my eyes. I know farmers in country Victoria and one family is like blood family to me. Their pain and uncertainty is something the likes of you will never understand, but will still ignorantly make assumptions and naive statements about.

Unlike *ignorant fools*, people who understand the plight of these people (including “Greenies”) don’t make *unnecessary noise*. There was already so much grief. The focus was on helping the communities rebuild themselves and providing support for survivors. If Greenies made noise then, they would just be opportunists! You have no clue how the feeling was like in the aftermath.

Victoria has been in a drought for decades. Deforestation or not, it is a very dry exhausted land. Changes in our climate is making it worse. Everyone knows that. There is no need for sustainability groups to blow their trumpets. The urgency highlighted in the post-mortem is focused on emergency response. There will be fires in Victoria for many years to come.

Btw, what are you saying?? That “Greenies” contributed to the bushfires because they opposed deforestation? So we should clear all forests to avoid bushfires?! Are you going to start campaigning for all trees on Penang Hill to be cut down and completely removed in case there is a fire? You’re a such clever person. BN would love you as their adviser. You’ll fit right in!

Your mention of kangaroo meat once again shows how ignorant you are. Please see links below and don’t compare them with whales. You’re such a laugh.

http://www.abc.net.au/science/features/skippysizeme/
http://www.ecosmagazine.com/?act=view_file&file_id=EC145p26.pdf
http://www.sciencealert.com.au/news/20092004-19032-2.html

Also, I don’t think you’re from Penang. If you are, you will know about all the highrise buildings mushrooming on the island and how we can’t possibly have that many people to occupy these buildings. We aren’t building buildings for housing, but for foreign (and some local) investors. I’m no economist, but supply will soon exceed demand and we will just have empty buildings that only serves as an eye sore to our skyline.

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I’m sorry Anil and everyone else if my comment above is more angry than my usual ones. Kingkong’s inaccurate and uninformed use of such a terrible tragedy such as the Black Saturday Bushfire was insensitive and inappropriate.

I guess the moral of the story is that everyone who brush aside environmental and sustainablity issues because they think they understand all the issues and know better should do their research and actually understand the complexity of debates before making up their minds and making loud statements (aka noise).

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]]> By: LBJ http://anilnetto.com/economy/development-issues/climate-change-surpasses-worst-case-scenarios/comment-page-1/#comment-32301 LBJ Wed, 30 Sep 2009 06:13:55 +0000 http://anilnetto.com/?p=15531#comment-32301 Do not worry about human over population. Nature has its own way of correction. We may not like what mother nature do to cure the problem, the problem will be fixed. Climate change will be one way of culling excess population. Do not worry about human over population. Nature has its own way of correction. We may not like what mother nature do to cure the problem, the problem will be fixed. Climate change will be one way of culling excess population.

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]]> By: nkkhoo http://anilnetto.com/economy/development-issues/climate-change-surpasses-worst-case-scenarios/comment-page-1/#comment-32291 nkkhoo Wed, 30 Sep 2009 03:43:46 +0000 http://anilnetto.com/?p=15531#comment-32291 An error, tropical lans shall be read as tropical land. An error, tropical lans shall be read as tropical land.

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]]> By: nkkhoo http://anilnetto.com/economy/development-issues/climate-change-surpasses-worst-case-scenarios/comment-page-1/#comment-32290 nkkhoo Wed, 30 Sep 2009 03:42:14 +0000 http://anilnetto.com/?p=15531#comment-32290 I just finished watching some films from History.com channel about "The Universe". The earth axis is changing in conical shape, your version of north pole was a tropical lans was NEVER happened. BUT the plateaus in north and south poles were in tropical or other climate before drifting to present positions. Besides earth polar axis changes, the shape of earth orbit rotating against the sun is changing too from time to time and our solar system spatial movement in the galaxy all causing climate change on earth. I just finished watching some films from History.com channel about “The Universe”.

The earth axis is changing in conical shape, your version of north pole was a tropical lans was NEVER happened. BUT the plateaus in north and south poles were in tropical or other climate before drifting to present positions.

Besides earth polar axis changes, the shape of earth orbit rotating against the sun is changing too from time to time and our solar system spatial movement in the galaxy all causing climate change on earth.

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]]> By: nkkhoo http://anilnetto.com/economy/development-issues/climate-change-surpasses-worst-case-scenarios/comment-page-1/#comment-32289 nkkhoo Wed, 30 Sep 2009 03:25:49 +0000 http://anilnetto.com/?p=15531#comment-32289 All scientists agree that global warming is a real event, only differ on its root causes. The root causes have to be identified first, and shooting blindly may be catastrophic to our human kind. All scientists agree that global warming is a real event, only differ on its root causes. The root causes have to be identified first, and shooting blindly may be catastrophic to our human kind.

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]]> By: Ong Eu Soon http://anilnetto.com/economy/development-issues/climate-change-surpasses-worst-case-scenarios/comment-page-1/#comment-32285 Ong Eu Soon Wed, 30 Sep 2009 01:35:47 +0000 http://anilnetto.com/?p=15531#comment-32285 If this issue is brought up before March 8 election, there won't be any arguement from Pakatan die hard supporters. Now with some states go to the Pakatan, the supporters become so complacent, thinking that by the next election, BN will surely lose. Before Pakatan even toppled the federal government, the supporters already all out to attack anyone who deem to offer a different view from Pakatan in particular LGE. You can't talk about sustainable development anymore, it means you going to attack LGE. Did the supporters realised that LGE also begin to talk about sustainable development (with his own distorted interpretation). If Penang is to leap into the high-income country category, we need to go back to basics in the three institutional characteristics stated above. But to reverse Penang’s decline and make Penang the next economic growth centre again, we have to do more. There are 5 key additional areas that Penang has to adopt if we are to transform ourselves into an international city that can compete globally. <i> A Quote from LGE: 1) A people oriented government based on 3Es to Enable the people with skills and knowledge, Empower the people with rights, opportunities and freedom and Enrich the people for an equitable share in the economic cake; 2) Development of human capital towards excellence, creativity and innovation; 3) Observing the rule of law to promote certainty and justice; 4) CAT(Competency, accountability and transparency) governance to establish a leadership with integrity; and 5) Branding for Penang to ensure quality, reliability and <b>sustainable development </b> </i> If this issue is brought up before March 8 election, there won’t be any arguement from Pakatan die hard supporters. Now with some states go to the Pakatan, the supporters become so complacent, thinking that by the next election, BN will surely lose. Before Pakatan even toppled the federal government, the supporters already all out to attack anyone who deem to offer a different view from Pakatan in particular LGE.
You can’t talk about sustainable development anymore, it means you going to attack LGE. Did the supporters realised that LGE also begin to talk about sustainable development (with his own distorted interpretation).

If Penang is to leap into the high-income country category, we need to go back to basics in the three institutional characteristics stated above. But to reverse Penang’s decline and make Penang the next economic growth centre again, we have to do more. There are 5 key additional areas that Penang has to adopt if we are to transform ourselves into an international city that can compete globally.

A Quote from LGE:
1) A people oriented government based on 3Es to Enable the people with skills and knowledge, Empower the people with rights, opportunities and freedom and Enrich the people for an equitable share in the economic cake;

2) Development of human capital towards excellence, creativity and innovation;

3) Observing the rule of law to promote certainty and justice;

4) CAT(Competency, accountability and transparency) governance to establish a leadership with integrity; and

5) Branding for Penang to ensure quality, reliability and sustainable development

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