Comments on: Town hall meeting to de-congest Pulau Tikus http://anilnetto.com/democracy/town-hall-meeting-to-de-congest-pulau-tikus/ Let justice flow like a mighty river Sun, 12 Feb 2012 10:47:40 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: kingkong http://anilnetto.com/democracy/town-hall-meeting-to-de-congest-pulau-tikus/comment-page-1/#comment-33124 kingkong Mon, 12 Oct 2009 12:32:24 +0000 http://anilnetto.com/?p=15721#comment-33124 The comments are all for the sake of opposing because you are a Gerakan Man and have a very deep hatred for the ruling party. See the comments are doubtful and this or that cannot. You never commented when you yourself say about malaysian driver mentality. So when MPPP decided to try to clamp cars, this is to change their mind set. People like you will never change. The comments are all for the sake of opposing because you are a Gerakan Man and have a very deep hatred for the ruling party. See the comments are doubtful and this or that cannot. You never commented when you yourself say about malaysian driver mentality. So when MPPP decided to try to clamp cars, this is to change their mind set. People like you will never change.

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]]> By: soohuey http://anilnetto.com/democracy/town-hall-meeting-to-de-congest-pulau-tikus/comment-page-1/#comment-33114 soohuey Mon, 12 Oct 2009 09:57:15 +0000 http://anilnetto.com/?p=15721#comment-33114 No worries, BC. Thanks for letting us know about the market trader. I'm sure some people got the flyers, but the publicity was nowhere near sufficient. I know what you mean about people complaining only afterwards... It's sad, but hopefully with more stakeholders meetings that are better publicised n better run (so that ppl feel there is actually a discussion n not juz an announcement), then slowly ppl will realise they have the power to affect things before they are in place. I don't support this proposal because it doesn't reflect thorough background study. Instead it shows DAP likes to come up with ideas, but do little to make sure it will genuinely work longterm. All hot air. Very disappointed with a lot of things they have come up with. Always half past six. No worries, BC. Thanks for letting us know about the market trader. I’m sure some people got the flyers, but the publicity was nowhere near sufficient.

I know what you mean about people complaining only afterwards… It’s sad, but hopefully with more stakeholders meetings that are better publicised n better run (so that ppl feel there is actually a discussion n not juz an announcement), then slowly ppl will realise they have the power to affect things before they are in place.

I don’t support this proposal because it doesn’t reflect thorough background study. Instead it shows DAP likes to come up with ideas, but do little to make sure it will genuinely work longterm. All hot air. Very disappointed with a lot of things they have come up with. Always half past six.

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]]> By: soohuey http://anilnetto.com/democracy/town-hall-meeting-to-de-congest-pulau-tikus/comment-page-1/#comment-33113 soohuey Mon, 12 Oct 2009 09:50:20 +0000 http://anilnetto.com/?p=15721#comment-33113 Anil & K, It was reported in the Star newspaper before the hrs got extended. Unsure of other msm as I've only got Star subscription at home, but I'd assume yes too. I haven't noticed a price hike. Still only 30 or 40 cents. For example, the very popular Gurney Drive is till 30sen/30minutes. This means when I park my car 9pm-12am, I only pay RM1.80 to MPPP, instead of RM5 to someone who doesn't have any right to charge me for parking on public land. I'm surprised the extension to collection hrs are affecting K's colleagues. They'd only be affected if they work 5pm - midnight and previously didn't have to pay. Perhaps there have been price hikes in Georgetown that I'm unaware of, but I'm suspicious that it is as bad as you say since even Gurney is only 30sen. I'm more inclined to believe that you've made this up just to make the State Gov look bad... Anil & K,

It was reported in the Star newspaper before the hrs got extended. Unsure of other msm as I’ve only got Star subscription at home, but I’d assume yes too.

I haven’t noticed a price hike. Still only 30 or 40 cents. For example, the very popular Gurney Drive is till 30sen/30minutes. This means when I park my car 9pm-12am, I only pay RM1.80 to MPPP, instead of RM5 to someone who doesn’t have any right to charge me for parking on public land.

I’m surprised the extension to collection hrs are affecting K’s colleagues. They’d only be affected if they work 5pm – midnight and previously didn’t have to pay. Perhaps there have been price hikes in Georgetown that I’m unaware of, but I’m suspicious that it is as bad as you say since even Gurney is only 30sen. I’m more inclined to believe that you’ve made this up just to make the State Gov look bad…

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]]> By: A peek at the Pulau Tikus town hall meeting « anilnetto.com http://anilnetto.com/democracy/town-hall-meeting-to-de-congest-pulau-tikus/comment-page-1/#comment-33109 A peek at the Pulau Tikus town hall meeting « anilnetto.com Mon, 12 Oct 2009 09:27:31 +0000 http://anilnetto.com/?p=15721#comment-33109 [...] of meeting invitation can be seen here. The invitation defines “stakeholders” as “the local communities and traders, commercial and [...] [...] of meeting invitation can be seen here. The invitation defines “stakeholders” as “the local communities and traders, commercial and [...]

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]]> By: K http://anilnetto.com/democracy/town-hall-meeting-to-de-congest-pulau-tikus/comment-page-1/#comment-33065 K Mon, 12 Oct 2009 00:43:51 +0000 http://anilnetto.com/?p=15721#comment-33065 soohuey I disagree. Paying money to MPPP instead of some opportunist doesn't seems like a solution to me. And I doubt the intention is so eliminate the touts either. The hours not only had been extended to midnight but now they also staring to collect eralier as well. I also hear that this will soon be extended to all other areas.BTW I heard that the compound for illegal parking has been reduced too. Also the rate for all areas covered by parking attendants (instead of meters) had been raised quite drastically too. I think the state should get of these state-sanctioned touts called parking attendants. soohuey

I disagree. Paying money to MPPP instead of some opportunist doesn’t seems like a solution to me. And I doubt the intention is so eliminate the touts either. The hours not only had been extended to midnight but now they also staring to collect eralier as well. I also hear that this will soon be extended to all other areas.BTW I heard that the compound for illegal parking has been reduced too.

Also the rate for all areas covered by parking attendants (instead of meters) had been raised quite drastically too.

I think the state should get of these state-sanctioned touts called parking attendants.

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]]> By: K http://anilnetto.com/democracy/town-hall-meeting-to-de-congest-pulau-tikus/comment-page-1/#comment-33064 K Mon, 12 Oct 2009 00:36:56 +0000 http://anilnetto.com/?p=15721#comment-33064 King Kong I m sure you would have noted the comments the participants gave during the forum as explained by some of the people here. The key points in engaging the public is getting the information out to key stakeholders and also being receptive and not just give an illusion of being consultative as being acted out in this sandiwara by LGE the Great Leader. What people like me want is not some silly and pointless piece-meal solutions but a macro-level planning. Conduct that and I will be there to give my 2 sen. Otherwise quit wasting my time. King Kong

I m sure you would have noted the comments the participants gave during the forum as explained by some of the people here.

The key points in engaging the public is getting the information out to key stakeholders and also being receptive and not just give an illusion of being consultative as being acted out in this sandiwara by LGE the Great Leader.

What people like me want is not some silly and pointless piece-meal solutions but a macro-level planning. Conduct that and I will be there to give my 2 sen. Otherwise quit wasting my time.

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]]> By: soohuey http://anilnetto.com/democracy/town-hall-meeting-to-de-congest-pulau-tikus/comment-page-1/#comment-33061 soohuey Sun, 11 Oct 2009 23:08:36 +0000 http://anilnetto.com/?p=15721#comment-33061 Did you think that it drew home the message that we really do need elected local council members who are more connected to the local community and accountable for expenditure and measures taken? Also, that it would be easier to get the relevant authority up to scratch and the State to manage its well-being if it had more direct control of things like the police, education and transportation (JPJ), instead of the current system where they are controlled by an uncooperative federal government? Enabling local councils to managed themselves, and then the State to manage itself will make things so much more effective. All the role players can then sit down for a proper consultation between all parties including the police, get to the root of the problem and then have the ability to genuinely do something about it. Did you think that it drew home the message that we really do need elected local council members who are more connected to the local community and accountable for expenditure and measures taken?

Also, that it would be easier to get the relevant authority up to scratch and the State to manage its well-being if it had more direct control of things like the police, education and transportation (JPJ), instead of the current system where they are controlled by an uncooperative federal government?

Enabling local councils to managed themselves, and then the State to manage itself will make things so much more effective. All the role players can then sit down for a proper consultation between all parties including the police, get to the root of the problem and then have the ability to genuinely do something about it.

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]]> By: kah seng http://anilnetto.com/democracy/town-hall-meeting-to-de-congest-pulau-tikus/comment-page-1/#comment-33052 kah seng Sun, 11 Oct 2009 16:37:39 +0000 http://anilnetto.com/?p=15721#comment-33052 I also notice better retarring of roads. My guess is DAP and MPPP are under pressure to perform and tarring of road is under their control. This is how a government should serve. But then I observe severe deterioration in traffic light maintenance in the past year. Are traffic light contractors under JKR and federal control? Are the contractors being paid in time and monitored by whoever in charge? There are some seriously dangerous lights around these days. I also notice better retarring of roads. My guess is DAP and MPPP are under pressure to perform and tarring of road is under their control. This is how a government should serve.

But then I observe severe deterioration in traffic light maintenance in the past year.

Are traffic light contractors under JKR and federal control? Are the contractors being paid in time and monitored by whoever in charge? There are some seriously dangerous lights around these days.

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]]> By: soohuey http://anilnetto.com/democracy/town-hall-meeting-to-de-congest-pulau-tikus/comment-page-1/#comment-33049 soohuey Sun, 11 Oct 2009 16:13:53 +0000 http://anilnetto.com/?p=15721#comment-33049 All I know is that before the move to extend MPPP collections to midnight, rouges would come illegitimately extort people for RM3 (or even RM5!) to park their cars. Police weren't doing anything and civilians were helpless because if you don't pay these people, they'd scratch your car or worse. I'm not sure what has happened in the background that we aren't aware of, but the types of people who are now MPPP parking attendants have changed and its been a long time since an intimidating man ask me for RM3 to park my car in an MPPP slot at night after MPPP collection times have ended. So....... if you ask me, I think whatever deal was struck with whoever, as long as the alternative (which we arent aware of) isn't too bad, this is a pretty good maneuver by the State gov. All I know is that before the move to extend MPPP collections to midnight, rouges would come illegitimately extort people for RM3 (or even RM5!) to park their cars. Police weren’t doing anything and civilians were helpless because if you don’t pay these people, they’d scratch your car or worse.

I’m not sure what has happened in the background that we aren’t aware of, but the types of people who are now MPPP parking attendants have changed and its been a long time since an intimidating man ask me for RM3 to park my car in an MPPP slot at night after MPPP collection times have ended.

So……. if you ask me, I think whatever deal was struck with whoever, as long as the alternative (which we arent aware of) isn’t too bad, this is a pretty good maneuver by the State gov.

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]]> By: K http://anilnetto.com/democracy/town-hall-meeting-to-de-congest-pulau-tikus/comment-page-1/#comment-33044 K Sun, 11 Oct 2009 15:40:21 +0000 http://anilnetto.com/?p=15721#comment-33044 anil, It was reported at all and I was surprised when I found it out. Around the area where I work, the parking problem worsened recently. I am lucky since I have a parking spot provided by the company but that also meant I wasn't aware of these changes. When I was talking some of my colleagues about the parking situation, they told me that the drastic increase in the parking fees had driven people to park illegally. I would be overjoyed if this was done to encourage the usage of public transport but my sources in MPPP told me the reason was rather less noble. anil,

It was reported at all and I was surprised when I found it out.

Around the area where I work, the parking problem worsened recently. I am lucky since I have a parking spot provided by the company but that also meant I wasn’t aware of these changes.

When I was talking some of my colleagues about the parking situation, they told me that the drastic increase in the parking fees had driven people to park illegally.

I would be overjoyed if this was done to encourage the usage of public transport but my sources in MPPP told me the reason was rather less noble.

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