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The political turmoil in Perak has taken on a new twist with Election Commission chairperson Abdul Aziz reportedly saying that no by-elections would be held because of doubts over the resignation letters of the two state assembly members.

Aziz pointed out that the assembly members had sent in new letters to deny the validity of the resignation letters submitted by the Perak Speaker.

Where does this leave Perak? Will we see a battle in the courts?

See Aliran president P Ramakrishnan’s statement here in which he says the Election Commission’s decision is ultra vires.

Of course, if the two assembly members were to defect, the Pakatan would have a majority of one. And if that majority is threatened, then they have the option of dissolving the assembly and calling for fresh elections – if the Sultan consents, that is.

  53 Responses to “No by-elections, says EC – so what happens now?”

  1. K,

    YOU are ignorant of the Malaysia politic, “Katakcracy” started by UMNO in Sabah during 1994 election when PBS win a narrow 25-23 victory but within 2 weeks 3 MPs from PBS changed side who believe to be bought by UMNO. Result of this,PBS collapsed. Sabah suffered.

    Who actually started the “katakcracy” a dirty and wicked tricks. Not Anwar, my friend, it was TM. UMNO had set the precedent, Anwar or no Anwar. One day they will come and get Perak.

    Now history is repeating itself again. Anwar sodomise case, sound familiar.

    I am holding these wicked politicians and those who ignorant of Malaysia politic for all these.

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  2. Asalamualaikum,

    just call for fresh election and InsyaAllah we Perakians will kicked BN into the straits of Malacca..

    MB nizar we are firmly behind you….

    Ameen..

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  3. What happen now?? Very simple, they remain as ADUN as EC says, one already quit PKR, next one will follow suit. Claim to remain as Independent ADUN(for how long. My prediction next week they will defect to BN. EC makes it easy for them to defect to BN. EC another BN ……(What ever you want to fill in the blank, as you pleasure)

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  4. Let’s call a state snap election
    PR government doesn’t have to wait
    Tell the Sultan of Perak
    He is the right person to know about law
    He knows inside out of the legal system
    Once he was the Lord President

    The buying and cajoling
    The PKR representatives didn’t think properly
    Maybe they want to escape the law
    Maybe they are the Trojan horses
    Kick up dust and smoke testing the ground
    In the end it is just shadow playing
    They said they haven’t jumped ship

    By the end of the day
    Pakatan will have a slim one seat majority
    Pakatan still rules the state
    Without much breathing space

    In this scene
    I am sure most Perakians want to decide
    The state government to rule
    I am one of them
    Shifting my base to Perak

    Hold the by election
    Gazette the state snap election
    We will go to vote
    And decide the outcome of it all
    Let the voters make the change
    Decide the trend for the country

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  5. In Chile, politicians used to disappear under Pinochet authoritarian rule. Now I see the same thing happening in my beloved nation. It is surely turning into a police state!!!

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  6. Snap Election….This two will lose badly.I bet on it

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  7. What happens now? See who jumps where.

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  8. When politicians control EC and other public offices this is what will be the outcome. Like Lim Kit Siang said, the EC has no jurisdiction to interfere into the state administrative affairs except acting on the formal request made by speaker. In this case the EC chairman has become the judge and EC is the courtroom.

    Hope PR government gets the nod of the palace to dissolve the state assembly. But again … even if it happens, EC would (probably) only fix the election date after Umno election in March…

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  9. The EC is in contempt of the Perak State Assembly. It’s duty is to carry out the decision of the State Government. The EC should be opulled up for contempt and be duly dealt with.

    It is NOT a Constitutional Court.

    However, it (appears to be) topped up with cronies of BN. That is the problem that Perakans face.

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  10. can we (do away with) the two cousin brothers Ngeh & Nga ?

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  11. I didnt expect the *** ******* *** to agree to the elections though I prayed otherwise. BN’s will, will be done. However, I am sure this decision will later return to haunt BN when the shose is on the other foot.

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  12. You will continue to see turmoil whether in Malaysian politics or Malaysian current affairs even after Najib takes over the helm of UMNO. With numerous controversies still unanswered for, he will definitely create more later on. And so he will forever be remembered in Malaysian history as “Bapa Kontrovarsi”. What a legacy…

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  13. Dear All,

    Some of you seem to very easily blame Anwar for this situation in Perak, But have any of you stopped to think what kind of leader is the aspirant to the seat of the Prime Minister this March is? With all evidence pointing on his involvement either directly or indirectly, we might as well have one dictator who rules as he pleases and makes all of us slaves who will go missing or just vanish into thin air if we disagree to do as we are told!

    So please for the sake of all and for the sake of the future of this beloved country of ours, support the call for a snap elections in the state of Perak and decide once and for all on whom you would want to lead the state of Perak. We need leaders of stature and quality and not the corrupt ones that so easily become leaders at every level of our decision making process.

    Has anyone noted why the MACC not started investigating the numerous reports and Statutory Declarations which have been made by those who have said that they were asked to help by the ruling Federal Government to intice PR assemblymen to cross over? It is clear as day, so the best solution will be to call for fresh elections before a legal suit is filed, who knows,…

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  14. I ask the same … Where is Bala?!! We want Bala! We want Bala! We want Bala!

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  15. While our attention is being deflected by the Perak stand-off, something may be happening in the room at the top of the stairs.

    A realignment of political forces in this country may or may not occur.

    It is sad, very sad to see this country with so much potential with enough for each and every Malaysian going to the dogs – all because of some half-past-six politicians.

    Of course, it all began in 1986 when Dato Seri Musa Hitam resigned as Deputy Prime Minister and deputy president of Umno.

    From that year on, we in Malaysia have had our attention deflected from one crisis to another crisis while our national heirloom was systematically piratised.

    It began with Operation Lalang … and the rest is history.

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  16. The missing people are place in Time Capsule will be release for public view when time comes. Anil, I miss the smiling face of the Ex-Mr Posman, Ex-Sexco Oops Exco & Ex Adun of Behrang En Jamaluddin.

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  17. As the Pakatan Rakyat component political parties get stronger and generate more hope in the hearts of the people who are hungry for progressive change in Malaysia, they will attract people of stronger principles and higher capabilities as potential Parliamentary and State Assembly candidates. This will allow the weeding out of the undesirable and the incompetent e.g.
    ex-UMNOputras who are now in PKR.
    With more and more Malays supporting the PR,
    UMNO is fast becoming the party of the corrupt, the racists and the fooled)

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  18. to me , the people have done their duty on march 8, instead if leaders can stop hopping around, then there would be no problems, its people power, so the people choosed a leader under whicever party, thus if the leader wanna jump party, he should relinquish his seat, i agree with YB Karpal on the anti hopping law and also his view that if such a law is in place, it will be retrospective 31 august 1957, meaning all those who hopped before the law also be charged and tried in court if they had done so against the peoples will, We all want PAKATAN in power now which is no doubt, but just hopping over is not the answer, because we must nt forget, there are still people who support BN. calling for a snap election may not be the best solution but can still be a solution but a snap election will raise many questions about our election system and will create unnecessary precedents.

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  19. Febuary

    UMNO/BN requires all their MPs and ADUNs to sign akujanji. It is a pledge that they will be loyal and remain within UMNO/BN. Actually they thought all this while that they are invincible that none of their elected reps will ever jump ship.

    l am sure, after Bota man fiasco, UMNO/BN will make mandatory that all their candidates in GE sign the undated resignation letters as security. l think DAP will fillow suit too.

    bat8

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  20. Recently in Perak, when they wanted to change jalan Silibin to jalan P.Patto , Sivanesan was tasked with organising a referendum to gather views, come on Siva-think out of the box, organise a statewide referendum and present it to the Sultan who has declared his neutrality, at least then the Sultan can have a basis to decide.
    take a que from the Bolivians who voted in a referendum to give greater political power and revenues from the vital natural gas industry to the indigenous majority, who are the poorest segment in South America’s poorest nation.

    It would be a great precedent if a referendum happens, after that we can do a nationwide referendum on ISA and shut the home ministers mouth forever on his statement the Malaysians support the ISA.

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  21. Well,
    I believe SNAP election is inevitable now. 48 hours ultimatum is given so as to buy time for further negotiation with 3 coaliation parties in preparing themselves for the election. I believe Ngeh is working on it now.
    Sorry to sound a bit partisan. I believe DAP would be negotiating for increase candidacies in this SNAP election. DAP has asked for 10 parliamentary and 20 state constituencies in the GE2008. However, it’s kenna backed down/whacked down to 7 parliamentary and 18 state constituencies. In the last GE2008,

    PAS has 7 Parliamentary and 21 state constituencies
    PKR has 10 Parliamentary & 20 state constituencies

    DAP only has 7 Parliamentary and 18 state constituencies

    However

    DAP won all 18 state seats and 6 out of 7 parliamentaries

    PAS only got 2 parliamentaries & 6 states (One MB in the bag)
    PKR only got 2 parliamentaries & 7 states (3 Excos in the bag and plus can’t even handle their EXCOs). I don’t know what to say. The village chief thingy and the rest of the mess. It’s time for PKR to relegate to a junior party in this state

    Like it or not, in this coming SNAP election, even if you put a dog, PR would win. I felt it would be fairer if DAP would take a larger share this time. PAS’s public image has been improved because of DAP. You know the land thingy. PAS got Nizar as MB. PKR is the one creating so much mess. Frankly, I don’t give a hoot to Tian Chua or Lee Boon Chye, perhaps, PKR should take a back seat on this time. Thinking of big picture, like most PKR folks would say.Do some spring cleaning. Stop doing nonsense thingy like the Village Chief thingy. One might say DAP too has organisation problem.

    I would suggest that any political parties with the PR coaliation that has below 2000 votes to win apart from Behrang and Changkat Jering should remain as it is.

    To be continued……….

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  22. The conundrum here is that, constitutionally under article 113 , EC is compelled to call a by election after a seat is declared vacant…
    To do this the speaker must present evidence like resignation letters,death cert or a court conviction of an assemblyman.
    The EC here has cleverly subverted the role of the speaker by declaring that it had a right to peruse authencity of documents tendered to it,
    I am inclined to thinh that even if it goes to court, the decision will be the same as those opposing the plaintiff’s (Perak pakatan) will argue on the very same precedents.

    The clever way out woul be to call a referendum to let the people decide,
    but UMNO will resist because they know such a referendum will go against them…..even online polls show that

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  23. By the way, Simpang Pulai was given away for free to PKR in 2008 GE. DAP obtains more votes in 2004 GE

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  24. Si Jamaludin dan Osman kemanakah pergi nya engkau?. Satu Malaysia dok cari ampa. Masa kecil-kecil dulu tak pernah main “achilot”(Hide & seek) ke? Menyusahkan orang, kata masih ADUN di Kawasan ampa, tapi muka tak nampak pun. Hang orang ni Lelaki ke atau sebalik-nya.
    Kita hidup sekali aje biar hidup cara Gentlemen, kalau tak boleh tolong pakai baju kurung isteri tuan-tuan ye.

    Nak jaga & bertanggungjawab kepada rakyat/pengundi di kawasan konon. Harap maklum pengundi dok tunggu YB dengan penyapu dan kasut buruk.

    Sekian pandangan aku kepada si bodoh yang berkenaan.

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  25. Lompat si katak lompat
    Lompat dalam perigi
    Sekat BN sekat
    Keputusan SPR memang keji

    Lompat si katak lompat
    Lompat di tepi pagar
    Dengar suara rakyat
    Oh wahai Menteri Besar

    Lompat si katak lompat
    Lompat di air tenang
    Ini angkara budak tingkat empat
    Jangan bagi Ezam duduk senang

    Lompat si katak lompat
    Lompat di rumput muda
    SPR jadi alat
    BN sanggup buat apa jua

    pantun VKM-09

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