Comments on: Anwar seeks firm assurance of security for self, family http://anilnetto.com/democracy/civil-society/anwar-seeking-assurance-of-security-for-self-family/ Let justice flow like a mighty river Sun, 12 Feb 2012 15:45:54 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: selvaraja somiah http://anilnetto.com/democracy/civil-society/anwar-seeking-assurance-of-security-for-self-family/comment-page-1/#comment-3200 selvaraja somiah Tue, 01 Jul 2008 03:32:36 +0000 http://anilnetto.com/?p=335#comment-3200 This Saiful fellow was planted and we knew it even before March 8th while I was campaigning for Party Pasok in Sabah. Even as far as Sabah, it was known that this fellow was planted in the PKR camp. So guys, just relax and watch what is going to be unfolded shortly. This time the conspirators and the co-conspirator will be caught with their pants down with regards to the "BACKSIDE" thingy. Let's wait and see the fun. This Saiful fellow was planted and we knew it even before March 8th while I was campaigning for Party Pasok in Sabah. Even as far as Sabah, it was known that this fellow was planted in the PKR camp.

So guys, just relax and watch what is going to be unfolded shortly. This time the conspirators and the co-conspirator will be caught with their pants down with regards to the “BACKSIDE” thingy. Let’s wait and see the fun.

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]]> By: Kenny Gan http://anilnetto.com/democracy/civil-society/anwar-seeking-assurance-of-security-for-self-family/comment-page-1/#comment-3182 Kenny Gan Mon, 30 Jun 2008 13:09:37 +0000 http://anilnetto.com/?p=335#comment-3182 Hector said, "I believe that is the law. If not, everytime someone files a police report against another, there will be a defamation suit against the complainant — and surely after that no poor person who is victim of a crime is even going to dare to make any police report…." Hector is a real shallow thinker. That really depends on whether the report is true or not. It should not deter anybody making a real report but deterring those who make scurrilous reports for ulterior motives is certainly not a bad thing. Hector said, “I believe that is the law. If not, everytime someone files a police report against another, there will be a defamation suit against the complainant — and surely after that no poor person who is victim of a crime is even going to dare to make any police report….”

Hector is a real shallow thinker. That really depends on whether the report is true or not. It should not deter anybody making a real report but deterring those who make scurrilous reports for ulterior motives is certainly not a bad thing.

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]]> By: Kenny Gan http://anilnetto.com/democracy/civil-society/anwar-seeking-assurance-of-security-for-self-family/comment-page-1/#comment-3181 Kenny Gan Mon, 30 Jun 2008 13:05:22 +0000 http://anilnetto.com/?p=335#comment-3181 My take is that Charles Hector does not have a point with regards to the defamation suit filed by Anwar. For such a public figure like Anwar, filing a report of such a vile crime is itself a huge defamation to Anwar's reputation and may mean political death if swift action to counter it is not taken. Hector should not speak from a moral high horse when he is far removed from the actual events. He should distinguish between the type of crime alleged and the fame of the person accused. Some crimes are more vile than others, some people have more sensitive reputation than others. There is no one size which suits all. My take is that Charles Hector does not have a point with regards to the defamation suit filed by Anwar. For such a public figure like Anwar, filing a report of such a vile crime is itself a huge defamation to Anwar’s reputation and may mean political death if swift action to counter it is not taken.

Hector should not speak from a moral high horse when he is far removed from the actual events. He should distinguish between the type of crime alleged and the fame of the person accused. Some crimes are more vile than others, some people have more sensitive reputation than others. There is no one size which suits all.

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]]> By: KK http://anilnetto.com/democracy/civil-society/anwar-seeking-assurance-of-security-for-self-family/comment-page-1/#comment-3180 KK Mon, 30 Jun 2008 12:48:25 +0000 http://anilnetto.com/?p=335#comment-3180 I agree with you, Anil, on Hector's point. As much as it is important for us to uphold and protect the rights of everyone, one must not forget the context within which our judiciary and police have operated. It is truly sad that given the kind of judiciary and police we have had, not just the fact that they have been under direct or indirect influence of the BN government but also that some of the major individuals of such institutions have become so closely tied to the BN political leaders, how can one not take all that into consideration as well when weighing the human rights of the different people and parties involved. Indeed, it behoves on all of us to take the unlevel playing field into consideration if we really are interested in making sure everyone's rights are fairly, equally and objectively upheld and protected. For more on the sorry state of unlevel playing field that we have had, read Raja Petra's article today offering a very good account comparing the responses, together with their implications, of the PM, the police and the attorney general to his statutory declaration and the police report on Anwar. Petra is, of course, an interested party here, but many of his points cannot be dismissed or denied if we truly want to uphold and protect every Malaysian's rights. I agree with you, Anil, on Hector’s point. As much as it is important for us to uphold and protect the rights of everyone, one must not forget the context within which our judiciary and police have operated. It is truly sad that given the kind of judiciary and police we have had, not just the fact that they have been under direct or indirect influence of the BN government but also that some of the major individuals of such institutions have become so closely tied to the BN political leaders, how can one not take all that into consideration as well when weighing the human rights of the different people and parties involved. Indeed, it behoves on all of us to take the unlevel playing field into consideration if we really are interested in making sure everyone’s rights are fairly, equally and objectively upheld and protected.

For more on the sorry state of unlevel playing field that we have had, read Raja Petra’s article today offering a very good account comparing the responses, together with their implications, of the PM, the police and the attorney general to his statutory declaration and the police report on Anwar. Petra is, of course, an interested party here, but many of his points cannot be dismissed or denied if we truly want to uphold and protect every Malaysian’s rights.

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]]> By: kenny http://anilnetto.com/democracy/civil-society/anwar-seeking-assurance-of-security-for-self-family/comment-page-1/#comment-3177 kenny Mon, 30 Jun 2008 06:55:34 +0000 http://anilnetto.com/?p=335#comment-3177 Bro' Anilnetto, I like your quick updates as various events unfold. Juz wanna point out on your KLCI update. The drop is 0.6% instead of 6. Thanks. Bro’ Anilnetto,

I like your quick updates as various events unfold.

Juz wanna point out on your KLCI update. The drop is 0.6% instead of 6. Thanks.

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]]> By: matt http://anilnetto.com/democracy/civil-society/anwar-seeking-assurance-of-security-for-self-family/comment-page-1/#comment-3176 matt Mon, 30 Jun 2008 06:03:56 +0000 http://anilnetto.com/?p=335#comment-3176 If the turkish ambassador has been summoned it is (probably) only a matter of time that anwar will be arrested. If the turkish ambassador has been summoned it is (probably) only a matter of time that anwar will be arrested.

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]]> By: The Yarning http://anilnetto.com/democracy/civil-society/anwar-seeking-assurance-of-security-for-self-family/comment-page-1/#comment-3175 The Yarning Mon, 30 Jun 2008 05:41:08 +0000 http://anilnetto.com/?p=335#comment-3175 I wish their side can disclose more the kind of threat he is under. This is hardly the same as seeking refuge for a political charge. So many things dun add up. In crying that this is a political murder plotted against Anwar..would the power that be not be attempting killing themselves in the process, based on the popularly held believe and perception of what happened in 1998, and how shaky the speculation that it's the government's doing is. on the other hand, like some other bloggers or their commentators have suggested, this might be his own doing to further dismantle whatever the country has as a semblance to stability. I wish their side can disclose more the kind of threat he is under. This is hardly the same as seeking refuge for a political charge. So many things dun add up. In crying that this is a political murder plotted against Anwar..would the power that be not be attempting killing themselves in the process, based on the popularly held believe and perception of what happened in 1998, and how shaky the speculation that it’s the government’s doing is. on the other hand, like some other bloggers or their commentators have suggested, this might be his own doing to further dismantle whatever the country has as a semblance to stability.

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]]> By: Andrew http://anilnetto.com/democracy/civil-society/anwar-seeking-assurance-of-security-for-self-family/comment-page-1/#comment-3167 Andrew Mon, 30 Jun 2008 03:44:19 +0000 http://anilnetto.com/?p=335#comment-3167 The self inflicted accusation theory is now being officially peddled to the masses... And what do people with good memories make of the assurances of police protection for Anwar? Once beaten, twice shy perhaps? The self inflicted accusation theory is now being officially peddled to the masses…

And what do people with good memories make of the assurances of police protection for Anwar? Once beaten, twice shy perhaps?

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]]> By: Edwin SJ Ng PJK http://anilnetto.com/democracy/civil-society/anwar-seeking-assurance-of-security-for-self-family/comment-page-1/#comment-3166 Edwin SJ Ng PJK Mon, 30 Jun 2008 02:45:40 +0000 http://anilnetto.com/?p=335#comment-3166 Can you please get someone to have translated and then post it again in your blog. While I have got a gist of it, I would love to understand what really is Our Friend saying. Thank you. Can you please get someone to have translated and then post it again in your blog.

While I have got a gist of it, I would love to understand what really is Our Friend saying.

Thank you.

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