Comment posted 5 state govts back call to free ISA detainees, Guan Eng tells Makkal Sakthi crowd by John Keadilan Borneo.
Dear Anil,
Although i agree with your last sentence in this blog article, I still hae some admiration for the guy who made the suggestion that Mahathir should be the LAST isa detainee.
Let me say it this way…
THE ONLY WAY TO CONVINCED STRONG SUPPORTERS ON RETAINING THE ISA TO CHANGE THEIR MIND IS TO LET THE DOCTOR MAHATHIR TO TASTE HIS OWN MEDICINE… hell, (Mahathir) was previously a medic doctor wasnt he? But he never check the taste of his medicine before forcing his patients to swallow them.
As for me, whoever supports ISA even in the past, will never ever get my vote. If I know of a candidate who once supported ISA, i will still campaign against him. We have more than enough qualified pple to be future MPs so those outdated ISA supporters now deserved to be retired. Let them disappear into oblivion.
The question that has never been answered is this…
HOW MANY ISA DETAINEES ARE REALLY A SECURITY RISK TO THE COUNTRY?
How many of the detainees were arrested NOT because they are harmful to the country OR actually are risk to the everlasting political power of the UMNOputras?…
Lotssss of question still not answeered…
SO IN FUTURE, WE WANT THE PKR GOVT TO ORDER ANOTHER ROYAL COMMISSION OF INQUIRY ON THE BASIS OF DETAINING LOTS OF PPLE UNDER THE ISA, AND THE ROLE OF THE POLICE IN THESE EVENTS….
Recent comments by John Keadilan Borneo
- Sin Chew journalist detained under ISA
Dear Anil…YOU are in the position to get people to appeal to the UNITEd nation chapter of human rights…
UN intervention is needed now if the UMNO govt has turned into a dictator and Junta combined in one.
The reporters have not committed anything against the country… they were asked to report facts by none other than Badawai himself, why is she arrested.?
I can understand rpk arrest BUT not the reporters….
PLEASE CALL UP THE UNITED NATION before all the rest of us too gets arrested….
- Aliran, Kin Woon slam RPK’s arrest, show-cause letters
RPK Isa-ed?This is a message to… BN and UMNO..
we will start to kempen against U harder not just in internet but everywhere …
- My “disgusting” coverage: Blogger crackdown looms?
Anil, allow me to reply to this BN dog….BN sakti …konon…..
1. Bias coverage, maybe… but why is it OK for your MSM, RTM, TV3 to be biased in favor of your corrupted masters????
2. Rought tactics by PKR goons? a few maybe I believe due to constant ….. sodomeee, arrest, DNA etc etc.. but I would believe they (could be) all your (people) infiltrating the opposition and wearing pkr uniform to give them a bad name…
For example, how come the the man caught in the photo strangling a journalist is never found or Idied? …3. 15,000 vote for your Arif with a fake PHD? …
4. Most of us bloggers never got anything from your BN and UMNO.
My education is from my own hard work… saiful a failure can still get scholarship.
Until today, i am still paying for my study loan for my uni studies, even though i am a full blood bumiputra. …
I got 8 A’s in SPM, what did your saiful get?
I dont OWE anything to (the) govt, not a cent, but people like you are sucking my taxes everyday…5. Wipe out opposition? ha ha ha ha… even your NAJIB been trying to please the opposition saying, proof of democracy alive, but you??
… you represent the dictators…
A man from sabah
who suffered under BN rule.. - Puspakom gets additional concession, 15-yr extension
Agree, another 15 years of (allegedly) fleecing the motorist.We are already suffering from petrol hike, inflation, are they not bad enough???
- Why not reveal Saiful’s police report?
In response to “Killer on July 20th, 2008 at 11.15pm ”IT IS NOT the maturity of the blog commenters that is in question, rather the IMMATURITY of the BN govt and their running ****….
Have u ever made a police report? I have, concerning a burglary in my house, and instead of trying to help the victim, I get scolded instead. Thats malaysia police for you.
Also, the double standard in investigations IS DOWNRIGHT obvious, even the uneducated can see.
A fool makes an allegation, he gets protection.
RPK makes an allegation, he goes to jail.Boy, Malaysians are born equal, only the UMNOputras are more equal than others.
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Dear Anil,
Although i agree with your last sentence in this blog article, I still hae some admiration for the guy who made the suggestion that Mahathir should be the LAST isa detainee.
Let me say it this way…
THE ONLY WAY TO CONVINCED STRONG SUPPORTERS ON RETAINING THE ISA TO CHANGE THEIR MIND IS TO LET THE DOCTOR MAHATHIR TO TASTE HIS OWN MEDICINE… hell, (Mahathir) was previously a medic doctor wasnt he? But he never check the taste of his medicine before forcing his patients to swallow them.
As for me, whoever supports ISA even in the past, will never ever get my vote. If I know of a candidate who once supported ISA, i will still campaign against him. We have more than enough qualified pple to be future MPs so those outdated ISA supporters now deserved to be retired. Let them disappear into oblivion.
The question that has never been answered is this…
HOW MANY ISA DETAINEES ARE REALLY A SECURITY RISK TO THE COUNTRY?
How many of the detainees were arrested NOT because they are harmful to the country OR actually are risk to the everlasting political power of the UMNOputras?…
Lotssss of question still not answeered…
SO IN FUTURE, WE WANT THE PKR GOVT TO ORDER ANOTHER ROYAL COMMISSION OF INQUIRY ON THE BASIS OF DETAINING LOTS OF PPLE UNDER THE ISA, AND THE ROLE OF THE POLICE IN THESE EVENTS….
Penang should create their own city police and send the federal cops back BN states. Like we have it here ( US ). Limit the police power to patrol duties and stay out of any political gathering.
Anil
Ever since my first visit to your blog months ago, I am glad you are continuing to write without fear or favor. It’s one of the most well balanced blogs that continue to strike my passion of the things around me. Thank you for your contribution. I have many strong thoughts of Makkal Sakti. I have kids just like kids of some of the detainees. I feel for them…and…we are all Malaysians. Seriously, I see them no threat to this country other than the ones that put them at Kamunting. We must continue to speak for them. Were there any MIC, MCA or even Gerakan folks there? I guess they seek mileage by talking behind the press. Sorry – 2013 may just be the same fate for them…..thank you Anil
I almost thought the Pakatan Rakyat politician forgot about the HINdraf.Well its good to hear the five new PKR goverment support their release.
Just for querries,most of the time i just hear or read DAP do champion Hindraf,but hardly or myself overlook the PAS AND KEADILAN learders strongly issue any statement about Hindraf.
This Anwar Ibrahim,act like MGR with indians during Hindraf rally,Where is he?
Keep the pressure on this apartheid regime. Its not 1969 to throw everyone into Klab Kemunting.
Hi anil,
I have some queries about working for activist groups like Aliran. Would you be so kind as to permit email contact for a private discussion on this?
ISA should be gone
Yet the BN government wants it to stay
It is a convenient tool to silence critics
Giving the lame excuse
It is for national security
Years of those days
It had gone
The communists had given up arms struggle
Recognizing the rights to govern
through democratic elections
The BN government wants it to stay
The BN leaders shall not change
The people’s power must initiate it
ISA must be buried for good
There are many people throwing in
Without trials or reasonable hearing
These people are put into Kamunting Inn
It is to rehabilitate souls……………?
The agony of detained families
Friends and community leaders
NGOs and other opposing parties
ISA must go let the freedom flow
Nobody in sane mind
To destroy the country they are born
It is the backbone for them and generations to come
It is the corruption, lies and deceptions
The BN government doesn’t want to tackle
Makkal Sakthi will flow
On the minds into the government
The peoples’ cries shall not be in vain
ISA must go
It’s time it too retired
Into Annals of History of the country
I believe that liberty is the only genuinely valuable thing that men have invented,at least in the field of government.
I believe that it is better to be free than to be not free, even when the former is dangerous and the latter safe.
I believe that the finest qualities of man can flourish only in free air –
that progress made under the shadow of the policeman’s club is false progress, and of no permanent value.
I believe that any man who takes the liberty of another into his keeping is a tyrant, and
that any man who yields up his liberty, in however slight the measure, is bound to become a slave…HL Mencken
Dear Anil,
Let me first congratulate you on your blog which in my view is the best on latest Penang-cum-national developments.
On the Hindaf 5 and ISA, would it not be a good idea for ex-detainee and Penang CM LGE to lead in a signature campaign, say to get half a million signatures, to submitted to the Abdullah govt for their release along with the demand to abolish the ISA? We should try to do this before the parliamentary debate that LGE wants to introduce soon.
oooh yes, Tun M shud be given his own medicine first before we bring it down .
Gud to see that we have 5states now who backs the abolishment of ISA.
[...] as a blogger puts it, ” Malay activist addressing a largely Indian crowd at the Chinese Town Hall [...]
ISA should not be abolished just that! Wait till PR at helm forming Federal Govt. and take those UMNOputras in Kamunting, otherwisethey will never regret what they did to others and their love ones.
Tun M should be given the honour to be priority visitor
in Kamunting and the first ISA detainee under PR led govt.
Strange but true, those thrown in ISA detention emerge stronger, fine example Mr LKS & SON.
[...] rocked Penang!) curtesy of Ong Boon Keong. Also see Anil’s blog for a very very good report: 5 state govts back calls to free ISA detainees; and some great [...]
All the ISA detainess should be released without any condition attached immediately and ISA should be abolished AFTER we sent some of these BN leaders under ISA arrest such as Khir Toyo,Hishamuddin, Nazri, KJ and of course Dr.M, agreed should let him taste the life there.Waiting for PRM to form the Federal Goverment soonest possible.
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I was very touched to see so much support for the 5 Hindraf detainees at the PCTH forum. Unfortunately, only a handful of non-Indians were there. We need to keep reminding everyone that there are still 60+ detainees apart from these Hindraf 5. Pls continue with the pressure on the Govt to free tham all and abolish the ISA altogether.
Dear Anil,
Congratulations.Your blog is very interesting these days.Keep it up.
You are very right,ISA must be abolished.I think the time for that eventful day is not far away.
God bless
Do you also notice that UMNO is trying to pop-up its ugly head by bringing up uncalled for racial pronouncements to create racial trouble. In addition, PAS too has forgotten that the Malays’, Chinese’ and the Indians’ votes that won them all their seats in Selangor, Perak, Penang and Kedah.
They are talking about introducing their Islamic State concepts. It is high time the bloggers take this up seriously and warn the Rakyat not to vote PAS anymore in all future elections.
Bn gomen is not listening to MAKKAL SAKTHI ‘ S voice. all 5 state goverments should collectively pressure federal govt. DSAI should also voice out on this issue – pressure PM to release the isa detaines.
True enoough. The draconian ISA should be abolished ASAP. Turn the detention centre in Kamunting to be a pig farm instead. High tech pig farm somemore.
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Please start an online petition to abolish ISA and free our Indian friends. I’ll be the first person to sign the petition.
TO.
ANILL
I read few comments regarding hindraf 5.As some of Malaysian knows hindraf is a wake up call for BN and the winner of this PKR party due to some extend to hindraf factors.
Most of your bloggers in your blog are not using their real name.I just wonder whether this bloggers to your side is indian,malay,chinese or ext.
I am not a racist,but just want to know how the overall Malaysian feel regarding the indians.Is there any a bias for Malaysian to adrress themself and support all race born in this motherland to champion bangsa malaysia.
Pingback mention its only handfull of other race in championing or attend the MAKKAL SAKTHI.
MR.ANIL,CAN YOU PLEASE CLARIFY THIS.IS THERE STILL THE BIGGER PIE TAKEN AWAY FROM INDIAN BUT CLAIM THEY ARE THE CHAMPION.
RAJ RAMAN.START SOUND A BIT RACIST BUT I AM NOT A RACIST.
Raj,
I concur with you. DAP seems to be most vocal whereas other PR parties seems to be quiet. Tian Chua’s Batu has a number of Indians and Eli Wong NGO on Human Rights voice are very soft on Hindraf under ISA
As far i concern politician like orang minyak,not snake ( pity the snake,human see the snake kill them ).
Thanks for your support jughead.
Pardon me to say this anil in your blogs.
RAJ RAMAN.F*** THE SPIDER WITH THIS NGO POLITICIAN.CAKAP TAK SERUPA BIKIN.STARTED SHOWING THE SLEEPERY POLITICIAN ATTITUDE.I THINK POLITICIAN HAVE SPECIAL DNA IN THEM.THAT WHY MOST HAVE THEM SOMETHING IN COMMON.
The nation is bleeding away its resources, time,energy and effort in attempting to get the powers that be to do away with ISA.
Meanwhile the power brokers will fight tooth and nail to keep it. Afterall, the lessons learnt from the corridors of undemocratic power and control reinforce this believe in the minds and hearts of our local politicians.
Perhaps only a people’s (mobilisation) of sorts can bring down the ISA practice like a highland towers episode — minus innocent victims of course.
Hear you loud and clear.May not be vocal but you have my full support and backing for their release. Just add to your list.
Hi Anil,
Thanks for this article ! We really need ” fresh ” news other than the standard news from ” MSMs’” dish out to us in line with their master’s wishes.
If we don’t read the daily news from the MSMs’, we are uninformed and if we do read them, we are illinformed !!!
So, better not read them and save some ” cents ” to have more sense then to be mislead and misguided.
This is why we need ISA.
to stop all this nonsense.
The biggest thread of the nation is the people who always make road demonstration, yelling at public, and gathered as many as possible in public road.
Mahathir and Samy Vellu in Kamunting together? We want to see how brave and loud-mouthed these “tyrants” are then….
Hang Jebat, think carefully.
Do you know the meaning of “rule of law”? It means the rule of JUST AND FAIR laws. It also means that an accused person must be TOLD EXACTLY what he/she is accused of and the evidence produced in a COURT free of manipulation by the government.
Is this in line with or is this against the teachings of Islam? You can only answer honestly to yourself. May Allah guide you to the truth.
Firstly I believe that ISA is obsolete in its relevance in today’s world. The only reason the government would hold on to it is because they are incompetent to catch and convict a suspect. Hence, they rather impose ISA on a suspect than to gather the proper intelligence for a conviction of a crime.
If you have a look at the list of detainees and the charges against them, it is all ALLEGED.
Why not be open and make public the actual reason why they are detained in the first place? Are they saying that they have no proof on the alleged crimes of the detainees?
Abolishing ISA will not solve anybody’s problem. There are many more than the 5 Hindraf guys in ISA. Even India has tightened the POTA act. Why, there will always be guys with vested interests to undermine the country’s peace. So we need ISA. It easy for people to talk about the detainee’s children and wife situation, after being in ISA. In this blessed country, the Chinese are prospering.There are Indian workers from India who are paying 6-8k to agents come to work here to earn money. Blaming Umno/BN does not solve our Indians problem. What can we learn from the Chinese, Sikhs, Indian Muslims, Gujaratis who are not getting any gomen help nor crying about the situation.
You think PKR PAS are interested to help Indians? They just helped themselves in the last elections riding on the Hindraf created wave.
Creating a antagonastic attitude towards a majority community only invites a similar response. We simply don’t have the stength in economic power to dictate terms. Learn from Fiji, Uganda, Burma’s Indians experience. Don’t repeat it.
Think how with cooperation and collaboration, we can build a win win situation for everyone. What plans have Hindraf, Makkal Sakthi, DAP, MIC etc to improve the economic well being of the Indians? With the recession looming, the hardest hit will be Indians. It’s easy to arouse passion to hate, protest etc and create lasting divides. Ask what you can do to improve the Indians lot without blaming others for the situation Indians are in.
Dear anan duran,
Please do not use the term “we need ISA”. You are right blaming UMNO wont resolved the problems but purging them out.Yes the problems will be solved.
What can you improve the condition of Indians by detained the 5 Hindraf ? Chinese prosperous not because they are in blessed or cursed country. Don’t linked the Chinese when you talk about ISA.It seems like Chinese will lost all their monies if they don’t follows your advise. Chinese have brain, sorry to inform you.
Are you threatening the minority? Please bear in mind majority doesn’t like ISA. Plaese don’t talk about win win situation when there is still “you lose I win” game plan.
Are you really compassionate with the Indian community. why don’t you try this ISA food. Asked Theresa Kok. May be you are too prosperous with all the tasty food. Just Try it! I think you will like, weird species!
Anan Duran, by the manner of your statements you obviously have never been part of the ISA program. You should go thru it first before sending out your views.
Indians in many Afrikan nations prospered. Indians are prospering in USA, Europe, Australia, Canada … u left them out and concentrated on the areas they were mistreated. Have you been to these countries and talked to these people? U arent well traveled.
ISA allows a person to be detained WITHOUT TRIAL. There are other laws that allow a person to be detained WITH TRIAL. You obviously are not a lawyer. U dont know the law.
Mahatma Ghandi was just an old man, who lead an entire nation. Dont tell me we Indians dont have the strength in us. You are obviously a pessimist.
Cooperation and collaboration? What have we been doing the past 50 years? Fighting as guerrilas against the UMNO led BN govt? NO. We HAVE been cooperating and we HAVE been colaborating. It has got us NOWHERE! and created ppl like you.
To improve the Indian’s lot, we need regime change.