Comments on: Protest at Allah verdict in Penang http://anilnetto.com/religion-and-ethnicity/christianity/protest-at-allah-verdict-in-penang/ Let justice flow like a mighty river Sun, 12 Feb 2012 06:53:43 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: O http://anilnetto.com/religion-and-ethnicity/christianity/protest-at-allah-verdict-in-penang/comment-page-2/#comment-36693 O Wed, 06 Jan 2010 06:46:06 +0000 http://anilnetto.com/?p=17475#comment-36693 JUST WHO IS IN CHARGE IN UMNO? IS IT TDM? NAJIB? DPM? HISHAMUDDIN? NAZRI? IT IS JUST SO CONFUSING! NAJIB SAID HE WILL TAKE THE DECISION ON THE ALLAH ISSUE AND ASKED THE REST TO STOP THE DEBATE, BUT, OH MY GOD! IT JUST SHOWED HOW HIS INSTRUCTION ARE SO BLATANTLY IGNORED BY SO MANY OF HIS SUBORDINATES! NOW EVEN WANITA UMNO AND ALL THE UMNO NGO'S ARE GETTING INVOLVED! SUCH A LAUGHABLE MATTER, AS THEY SHOULD KNOW THE MALAYS TODAY AIN'T THAT STUPID NO MORE! NO MORE POLITICAL CAPITAL! TOO MANY SCANDALS! TOO MUCH CORRUPTION! FAILING ECONOMY! HIGH CRIME RATES! DETERIORATING EDUCATION SYSTEM! MASS MIGRATION OF PROFESSIONALS OF ALL RACES! AIYOH YOH, POR CHI LA! 1MALAYSIA. JUST BECAUSE HE NEVER WALK THE TALK, NO ONE BOTHERS TO LISTEN TO HIS TALK! JUST SO WEAK AND TO MAKE MATTER WORSE, HE HAD NOT SPOKEN A WORD SINCE THE OTHER UMNO WARLORDS STARTED SHOUTING THEIR WAR CRY! SO WEAK IS OUR PRIME MINISTER EVEN HIS COUSIN IS DEFYING HIS INSTRUCTION! AS MENTIONED EVEN BEFORE THE SANDIWARA ESCALATED, IT IS THE PR WHO WILL COME TO THE RESCUE OF THE MASSES FROM THESE EXTREMISTS! WHO ELSE BUT PAS & PKR? PLEASE DO NOT PLACE ANY HOPES ON MCA, MIC OR GERAKAN! JUST WHO IS IN CHARGE IN UMNO? IS IT TDM? NAJIB? DPM? HISHAMUDDIN? NAZRI? IT IS JUST SO CONFUSING!

NAJIB SAID HE WILL TAKE THE DECISION ON THE ALLAH ISSUE AND ASKED THE REST TO STOP THE DEBATE, BUT, OH MY GOD! IT JUST SHOWED HOW HIS INSTRUCTION ARE SO BLATANTLY IGNORED BY SO MANY OF HIS SUBORDINATES! NOW EVEN WANITA UMNO AND ALL THE UMNO NGO’S ARE GETTING INVOLVED! SUCH A LAUGHABLE MATTER, AS THEY SHOULD KNOW THE MALAYS TODAY AIN’T THAT STUPID NO MORE! NO MORE POLITICAL CAPITAL! TOO MANY SCANDALS! TOO MUCH CORRUPTION! FAILING ECONOMY! HIGH CRIME RATES! DETERIORATING EDUCATION SYSTEM! MASS MIGRATION OF PROFESSIONALS OF ALL RACES! AIYOH YOH, POR CHI LA! 1MALAYSIA.

JUST BECAUSE HE NEVER WALK THE TALK, NO ONE BOTHERS TO LISTEN TO HIS TALK! JUST SO WEAK AND TO MAKE MATTER WORSE, HE HAD NOT SPOKEN A WORD SINCE THE OTHER UMNO WARLORDS STARTED SHOUTING THEIR WAR CRY!
SO WEAK IS OUR PRIME MINISTER EVEN HIS COUSIN IS DEFYING HIS INSTRUCTION! AS MENTIONED EVEN BEFORE THE SANDIWARA ESCALATED, IT IS THE PR WHO WILL COME TO THE RESCUE OF THE MASSES FROM THESE EXTREMISTS! WHO ELSE BUT PAS & PKR? PLEASE DO NOT PLACE ANY HOPES ON MCA, MIC OR GERAKAN!

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]]> By: Bigjoe http://anilnetto.com/religion-and-ethnicity/christianity/protest-at-allah-verdict-in-penang/comment-page-2/#comment-36638 Bigjoe Tue, 05 Jan 2010 05:44:13 +0000 http://anilnetto.com/?p=17475#comment-36638 Both side is missing the big picture: WHY is Najib AND Muhiyiddin, BOTH without real legal expertise, SO CONFIDENT that the Appeal Court 'will resolve the issue'???... Both side is missing the big picture: WHY is Najib AND Muhiyiddin, BOTH without real legal expertise, SO CONFIDENT that the Appeal Court ‘will resolve the issue’???…

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]]> By: kee http://anilnetto.com/religion-and-ethnicity/christianity/protest-at-allah-verdict-in-penang/comment-page-2/#comment-36633 kee Tue, 05 Jan 2010 04:42:40 +0000 http://anilnetto.com/?p=17475#comment-36633 ... If the Malaysian Muslims want to claim that Allah is rightfully and exclusively theirs, for God's sake, give them back la, why do Catholics want to quarrel over God's name? Really, Malasian, greatest joker in the world !!! Just wonder whether can I call my God as HeHeHaHa, that means my God is a happy God. … If the Malaysian Muslims want to claim that Allah is rightfully and exclusively theirs, for God’s sake, give them back la, why do Catholics want to quarrel over God’s name?

Really, Malasian, greatest joker in the world !!!

Just wonder whether can I call my God as HeHeHaHa, that means my God is a happy God.

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]]> By: Jong http://anilnetto.com/religion-and-ethnicity/christianity/protest-at-allah-verdict-in-penang/comment-page-2/#comment-36628 Jong Tue, 05 Jan 2010 03:09:55 +0000 http://anilnetto.com/?p=17475#comment-36628 What we see today in Malaysia a political party UMNO feeling so insecured, trying to gain political mileage in the name of Islam/Allah, nothing else. Disgraceful! I am sure to The Herald(supported by many Muslims and non-Muslims alike), it must be a matter of principles, the BULLYING HAS TO STOP! No one has the right to claim ownership of another, not even a word ..."ALLAH". What we see today in Malaysia a political party UMNO feeling so insecured, trying to gain political mileage in the name of Islam/Allah, nothing else. Disgraceful!

I am sure to The Herald(supported by many Muslims and non-Muslims alike), it must be a matter of principles, the BULLYING HAS TO STOP! No one has the right to claim ownership of another, not even a word …”ALLAH”.

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]]> By: nkkhoo http://anilnetto.com/religion-and-ethnicity/christianity/protest-at-allah-verdict-in-penang/comment-page-1/#comment-36624 nkkhoo Tue, 05 Jan 2010 01:28:22 +0000 http://anilnetto.com/?p=17475#comment-36624 Islam in other country like Indonesia is rational, open and liberal unlike version in the Bolehland. These people here are giving bad image to Islam. Islam in other country like Indonesia is rational, open and liberal unlike version in the Bolehland.

These people here are giving bad image to Islam.

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]]> By: vsp http://anilnetto.com/religion-and-ethnicity/christianity/protest-at-allah-verdict-in-penang/comment-page-2/#comment-36608 vsp Mon, 04 Jan 2010 17:16:01 +0000 http://anilnetto.com/?p=17475#comment-36608 I read in one of the UMNO-supported blogs saying that Islam is the sole property of the Malays. He is wrong, Islam is a universal religion, just as Christianity, Buddhism, Hinduism are universal religions. Where in the constitution was it stated that Allah cannot be used by others? The east Malaysians and the Sikhs have been using the word "Allah" for hundred of years. I doubt that Sabah and Sarawak would be willing to be part of Malaysia if it were known that they cannot use the word "Allah" in their worship of God. In so doing, have they insulted Allah and have the law being thrown at them? No, it did not happen for years since Independence, but only recently when UMNO were forced against the ropes by their opponents did they exploit the sanctity of Islam to sanction their misdeeds. Religion is a very powerful tool and whoever controls it wrongly would bring untold misery for the masses. History is replete with many horrible atrocities, all committed in the name of religion. The decaying Roman Catholic Church before the Reformation, Hilter and many Islamic regime today all used religions as the basis for their justification to do harm. Even before there is a Islam, the word Allah was used. Islam, Christianity and Judaism worship the same God so it doesn't matter what name is used for God. It can be interchangeable with the language that is being used. Christianity believe that the message of God should be transmitted in the local language unlike Islam Hadhari which wants its believers to imitate the Arabs. So like the east Malaysians who only speaks the local language, Allah has been in use for many years. Mahathir confirms this: "I accept the term 'Allah' had been used in Sabah and Sarawak before the two states joined Malaysia." For Christians who speak other languages such as English, Chinese or Tamil you don't find them referring to God as Allah because that was not the term of God in that particular language. Just like if we use the term "car" in English and "kereta" in Malay it doesn't mean that "car" is a horse and "kereta" is a buffalo. Both refer to a road vehicle with four wheels. Was there anywhere in the Koran where the name of Allah is confined within the Islamic religion only? In fact the Koran states that it would be a confirmation of the greatness of God if other religion should refer him as Allah. Because "Allah" is the term for God in the Arabic language. In Islam Allah is unfathomable to the mind of mere mortals. Words are insufficient to describe the attributes of God. That's why there are 99 other names for Allah and still it would be wanting. Allah is all-powerful. It's only men who have inferiority complex who want to confine Allah in a gilded cage. As a Muslim one should be proud that other religion wants to use Allah as a term of reference. Let's be frank about it. The Islam that is practiced in Malaysia is purely political Islam. It is about control and stupefying the masses into accepting man-made rules. UMNO which is so corrupt does follow the true dictates of Allah but only uses Islam to perpetuate their rule with cruelty and unIslamic methods. Religion is just a tool for them to silence any divergent views. Pity the Malays who do not see this subterfuge of UMNO. The Malay race will not progress for a thousand years with such siege mentality and inferiority complex until they throw off this yoke of UMNO bondage. I read in one of the UMNO-supported blogs saying that Islam is the sole property of the Malays. He is wrong, Islam is a universal religion, just as Christianity, Buddhism, Hinduism are universal religions. Where in the constitution was it stated that Allah cannot be used by others? The east Malaysians and the Sikhs have been using the word “Allah” for hundred of years. I doubt that Sabah and Sarawak would be willing to be part of Malaysia if it were known that they cannot use the word “Allah” in their worship of God. In so doing, have they insulted Allah and have the law being thrown at them? No, it did not happen for years since Independence, but only recently when UMNO were forced against the ropes by their opponents did they exploit the sanctity of Islam to sanction their misdeeds.

Religion is a very powerful tool and whoever controls it wrongly would bring untold misery for the masses. History is replete with many horrible atrocities, all committed in the name of religion. The decaying Roman Catholic Church before the Reformation, Hilter and many Islamic regime today all used religions as the basis for their justification to do harm.

Even before there is a Islam, the word Allah was used. Islam, Christianity and Judaism worship the same God so it doesn’t matter what name is used for God. It can be interchangeable with the language that is being used. Christianity believe that the message of God should be transmitted in the local language unlike Islam Hadhari which wants its believers to imitate the Arabs. So like the east Malaysians who only speaks the local language, Allah has been in use for many years. Mahathir confirms this: “I accept the term ‘Allah’ had been used in Sabah and Sarawak before the two states joined Malaysia.” For Christians who speak other languages such as English, Chinese or Tamil you don’t find them referring to God as Allah because that was not the term of God in that particular language. Just like if we use the term “car” in English and “kereta” in Malay it doesn’t mean that “car” is a horse and “kereta” is a buffalo. Both refer to a road vehicle with four wheels.

Was there anywhere in the Koran where the name of Allah is confined within the Islamic religion only? In fact the Koran states that it would be a confirmation of the greatness of God if other religion should refer him as Allah. Because “Allah” is the term for God in the Arabic language. In Islam Allah is unfathomable to the mind of mere mortals. Words are insufficient to describe the attributes of God. That’s why there are 99 other names for Allah and still it would be wanting. Allah is all-powerful. It’s only men who have inferiority complex who want to confine Allah in a gilded cage. As a Muslim one should be proud that other religion wants to use Allah as a term of reference.

Let’s be frank about it. The Islam that is practiced in Malaysia is purely political Islam. It is about control and stupefying the masses into accepting man-made rules. UMNO which is so corrupt does follow the true dictates of Allah but only uses Islam to perpetuate their rule with cruelty and unIslamic methods. Religion is just a tool for them to silence any divergent views. Pity the Malays who do not see this subterfuge of UMNO. The Malay race will not progress for a thousand years with such siege mentality and inferiority complex until they throw off this yoke of UMNO bondage.

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]]> By: daniel http://anilnetto.com/religion-and-ethnicity/christianity/protest-at-allah-verdict-in-penang/comment-page-2/#comment-36602 daniel Mon, 04 Jan 2010 13:14:19 +0000 http://anilnetto.com/?p=17475#comment-36602 I am agreed. Most Sarawakians language is just Bahasa Melayu. But that does not warrant Catholics to make a issue out of it. Again, the Bahasa Melayu has to be clearly define Tuhan and Allah. Sarawakians may have dialects and their written language maybe just Bahasa Melayu. I am agreed. Most Sarawakians language is just Bahasa Melayu. But that does not warrant Catholics to make a issue out of it. Again, the Bahasa Melayu has to be clearly define Tuhan and Allah. Sarawakians may have dialects and their written language maybe just Bahasa Melayu.

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]]> By: O http://anilnetto.com/religion-and-ethnicity/christianity/protest-at-allah-verdict-in-penang/comment-page-1/#comment-36601 O Mon, 04 Jan 2010 12:52:57 +0000 http://anilnetto.com/?p=17475#comment-36601 Who actually is the real Talibans in Malaysia? Is it PAS together with PKR and DAP or the UMNO led BN supported by MCA, MIC, Gerakan and other mosquito parties? Makes one wonder, why is BN who claimed to be the party who considers themselves moderates, but, their actions are worse than ... extremists ...? Even the Talibans would be magnanimous enough and happy if the Americans say Allah in their prayers! It just showed how successfully the religion has spread. But in Malaysia, well a different set of rules apply. Just wonder why Gerakan, MIC had not spoken a word till yet, though the MCA had lauded the judgment of the Court. KPI Minister surely dare not say a word for the Rakyat. It is his position that matters? Perhaps some Gerakan state chairman or youth chiefs will voice their opinions? Who actually is the real Talibans in Malaysia? Is it PAS together with PKR and DAP or the UMNO led BN supported by MCA, MIC, Gerakan and other mosquito parties?

Makes one wonder, why is BN who claimed to be the party who considers themselves moderates, but, their actions are worse than … extremists …? Even the Talibans would be magnanimous enough and happy if the Americans say Allah in their prayers! It just showed how successfully the religion has spread. But in Malaysia, well a different set of rules apply.

Just wonder why Gerakan, MIC had not spoken a word till yet, though the MCA had lauded the judgment of the Court. KPI Minister surely dare not say a word for the Rakyat. It is his position that matters? Perhaps some Gerakan state chairman or youth chiefs will voice their opinions?

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]]> By: Stevie http://anilnetto.com/religion-and-ethnicity/christianity/protest-at-allah-verdict-in-penang/comment-page-2/#comment-36587 Stevie Mon, 04 Jan 2010 08:01:47 +0000 http://anilnetto.com/?p=17475#comment-36587 The Christians in East Malaysia have been using Allah for the One God for a long long time, NOW IT IS THE TIME FOR EAST MALAYSIAN TO USE THE 1 MALAYSIA VOTE TO VOTE OUT THE BN UMNO IN THE NEXT GE. THE ACTUAL CHRISTIAN POPULATION OF CHRISTIANS IN SARAWAK IS 56% The Christians in East Malaysia have been using Allah for the One God for a long long time, NOW IT IS THE TIME FOR EAST MALAYSIAN TO USE THE 1 MALAYSIA VOTE TO VOTE OUT THE BN UMNO IN THE NEXT GE. THE ACTUAL CHRISTIAN POPULATION OF CHRISTIANS IN SARAWAK IS 56%

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]]> By: daniel http://anilnetto.com/religion-and-ethnicity/christianity/protest-at-allah-verdict-in-penang/comment-page-2/#comment-36584 daniel Mon, 04 Jan 2010 06:38:00 +0000 http://anilnetto.com/?p=17475#comment-36584 This issue will create tensions amongst Catholics and Muslims. Our country leaders must stand out for the Malaysians. This is all about language. It hurts feelings of so many Malaysians. There you are...sensitive issue! Neither side want to give in. There is no end to it. For the good, our leaders should appeal to all media to avoid this topic now. This issue will create tensions amongst Catholics and Muslims. Our country leaders must stand out for the Malaysians. This is all about language. It hurts feelings of so many Malaysians.

There you are…sensitive issue! Neither side want to give in. There is no end to it. For the good, our leaders should appeal to all media to avoid this topic now.

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