Comment posted on Heartfelt prayers at interfaith vigil for peace in Gaza by lilian
May I answer Ganesh’s questions here. I am from the church mentioned and yes, we pray for all, including Kugan during our masses. We remember him and all the victims of war crimes, poverty and other situation. However, not every one of our prayers were highlighted on blogs. As for this interfaith prayer, a lot of work/coordination has to be put into getting all the people of different faith to come together and the Gaza issue is close to all their hearts, hence we had the rare opportunity of having them with us. May I invite you, Ganesh to join us in our mass so that you can see for yourself that we are not merely doing selective prayers according to the ‘hot trends’? The Herald also serves as our information source because The Herald features all the problems faced by the world. So, if you do not mind, do ask for a copy of The Herald for reading.
(sorry if I sound like a broken loudspeaker but I love my church
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It’s Father Francis Anthony. (you can delete this comment
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Thanks…It was past midnight when I blogged that, so I wasn’t thinking straight! Anil
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- Buah Pala villagers grapple with harsh reality
Quoted from Malaysiakini, Athi’s article :Meanwhile George Town OCPD Azam Abd Hamid said that no more grace period will be given to the residents as “they have been granted three-months to move out”.
He said all the affected residents will have to move out to the alternate homes provided by the developer – these temporary homes were built by Syarikat Perumahan Negara Berhad (SPNB).
-unquote-I am only relaying what I heard personally and being told to me. The same news is reported by NST and The Star too. However, some villagers resolved to continue living in the rubbles like Uncle Draviam and I admire him for his tenacity.
- Buah Pala villagers grapple with harsh reality
Just to share what I heard from the press conferences. The developer is giving temporary shelter for two hardcore poor families from Kampung Buah Pala. They have some units of flats in Jelutong.In fact, yesterday, I personally heard the demolition crew leader telling one of the villagers that they will send lorries to help them move their things.
At the same time, those who didn’t signed the compensation of a house, the OCPD said yesterday apartment units will be provided for them too.
Meanwhile, another villager whom had signed and left, told me she is meeting Prof. Ramasamy today and will ask him for more help with regards to shelter.
Some months back, I had already asked Prof. if the state gov, is going to leave these villagers without shelter. He said, “Don’t worry….we will know what to do…” The sad thing is, sometimes the people had all these hostilities, misconceptions, wrong perceptions and people like us who stand by the side made it worse.
- Kg Buah Pala: That RM3.5 million figure…
sam – When you become a reporter, go ask lah. I am merely relaying what I heard because so many people are claiming the figure is plucked out of thin air. It is not because there is a press statement signed by Tamaraj.Unclebuck – Biasaler, people are constipated all the time and I am free today to entertain them.
I forget to tell K, he asked me where I was on Sunday night. Well, I was at the front row, on the left, face to face with Uthayakumar from 7.30 to 11 pm. 80% of the forum was in Tamil but I hang around because I believed sitting behind the computer and whacking people are not productive. I made two videos, of Uthaya and Darshan’s speeches and each had garnered over 20K views. Now, K, what were you doing then?
- Kg Buah Pala: That RM3.5 million figure…
K – Oh dear, you have a lot of time to analyse things, don’t you?1) I was there to meet Uthayakumar and told him how honoured I felt to finally meet him in person bcos I had long admired him for his tenacity in fighting for the downtrodden.
2) I put up the whole speech of Darshan because I feel he deserves to be heard.
3) It is not based on hearsay. Just because you didn’t hear, you think it is hearsay. The CM produced newspapers that quoted the RM3.5 M. There is video made by my fellow CJ.And thanks for the praises you piled on me being PR spokesperson. I hope Anwar Ibrahim, Lim Kit Siang and Tok Guru read this. Woohoo! I wonder how many people worked tirelessly to get that kind of ‘honour’ and I merely need to make a couple of videos to earn this statement. Now, which ADun should I contest in the next GE. *laff till fall off chair*
- Kg Buah Pala: That RM3.5 million figure…
People, if you have time, listen to what I heard from the horses’ mouths.1) The 3.5million was stated in a press statement from the resident. It said in the statement that the piece of land that each house sits on is worth abt 3.5M and that’s why the developer is so keen to tear down their houses. Somehow, one way or another, two newspapers picked this out as a claim. Some people read the paper, called the CM and told him they are claiming such amount. The CM then, at a press conference (which I was there to video) said people called him they are claiming 3.5M. So, that’s how the misunderstanding arise. I heard Mr. Sugu made a police report about it. So, that’s the whole story of the 3.5M.
2) As for the 116 (D), i.e. the court order to stop demolition, as a citizen journalist, I was as curious as all of you to know why it wasn’t filed when we explicitly heard it will be done. So, I tried to get the DCM 2 to explain to me why. He couldn’t officially state the reason. Why? Because when you are in a peace talk, you cannot do this. So, I guess it is because the state government is pleading, and yes, it is YB Mansor who had a hard time getting the developer to agree to give the ex-gratia compensation, they cannot file it. It is like trying to make peace with the developer to give something good to the villagers so you cannot at the same time, give them a punch with 116(D). This of course, is my own understanding based on what I managed to eke out before I was told the ‘No comment’.
3) As for the claims that media have stopped reporting, well, I had been to both Komtar and Buah Pala since June 2nd, their very first picketing and by now, there is almost nothing new that we haven’t heard of. So, if there are less reports, it is because there is really nothing much to report anymore.
4) Though I truly sympathize with the real villagers of KPB, some of you guys cannot deny the fact that many political parties have tried to make the issue their political agenda. And you also cannot deny that some of the villagers too have been known to change their minds faster than lightning.
5) Finally, if we stopped looking at every side and everyone as the good guy-bad guy, we probably will argue less and feel more for the villagers.
And K – thank you for acknowledging the roles of citizen journalists. I noticed you mentioned citizen reporters in your comment above. Yes, I report what I see and I cannot possibly twist words because those are videos. I cannot put words into Darshan Singh, Lim Guan Eng, Prof. Ramasamy, Uthayakumar, Raj, Sugu’s mouths. The only thing that get twisted and divided are people’s mind whom already see everything as good guy-bad guy. As far as I am concerned, a lot of media members have been acting like mediators. We bring the villagers’ concerns to Komtar, we pressed them for answers because those are some of the things we know the villagers want to know.
One last thing – If you guys are so into good guy-bad guy epic, the bad guy is Barisan Nasional who alienated the land in a ‘suspicious manner and sold it’ (Sugumaran’s own words). The good guy, well….all good guys are dead. There are no good guys in this world. Grow up, will ya?
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How come no one is having interfaith prayers for Sri Lanka? After all, more people have been killed there than Gaza. More women and children suffer there.
Loads of rape occur. Infact, dead corpse also kena rape.
How come Malaysia not giving attention and prayers to those victims?
Or is the interfaith vigil practising selective prayers?
Anil
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It’s Father Francis Anthony. (you can delete this comment
Thanks…It was past midnight when I blogged that, so I wasn’t thinking straight! Anil
We are all a bit like frogs under coconut shells. We need to get out and find out what the other guys are doing if we want a better Malaysia. Gaza, Aceh, Sichuan, Sri Lanka, Mumbai, Bosnia, etc etc – we should all lend a hand if we can.
Nice, now, do one for the (custodial deaths at the hands) of police. Don’t you think that Malaysia comes first before others?
anil, the parish priest of the cathedral is fr FRANCIS ANTHONY (not francis xavier), fondly known as FA among us parishioners.
i’m glad i was there as get to learn how the different faith pray. no time to blog about it yet as in the process of updating my blog. hope to blog about it tomorrow.
Oops, I knew that. Must be getting old! Thanks for pointing that out. Now corrected. Anil
Dear Anil,
Please sign the petition to the ICC to try israel for War Crimes:
http://www.petitiononline.com/sr8c1952/petition.html
Please read my initial post here:
http://malaysiantigress.blogspot.com/2009/01/malaysian-citizens-petition-to.html
Thank you.
I think the Herald should stop using Allah and use something else not associated with Islam…
I agree with Shankar. We got even bigger problems in Malaysia. Better to pray and hold a vigil for Kuhan and his family.
No point looking elsewhere when you got issues in your own country.
Charity begins at home.
There are far more people suffering here from unjust practices than Gaza.
There are mothers and babies starving here because of the greedy behaviour of the corrupt wanting to get richer by depriving the poor masses from earning higher wages.
Their sufferings are equivalent to being bombed anyway.
Thanks Anil for the quick report. I am sending a longer version to the Herald. Your input was very informative.
This is fantastic and such a good healing sight for my sadly sore and tired eyes!
I am so impressed with Encik Mohd Rashid Hasnon for breaking down the barriers with his, no doubt beautiful singing of the azan there in that friendly collective Church of Reason & Fellowship.
Now….that could very possibly be that ultimate “WOW” factor that the now flailing-about UMNO/BN would die for perhaps!
So can we have MORE and MORE of these ignorance-busting, fellowship-building inspired churches of reason please?
And last but not least, here’s another cut on the dice and slice perspective for those who are sometimes unfortunately blinded into the self-destructive comparison and measurement game mode in fields and matters where it does not apply:
It is my understanding from personal experience – so whether rightly or wrongly or whether you may agree or think it so or not – that the impact on the human psyche from all truly unnecessary human pain and suffering is the SAME wherever it happens and to whoever it happens and irrespective of whatever arbitrary and convenient box one may want to put that human sufferer or suffering into to either rationalise the guilt away or to justify it as being just collateral damage.
“Imagine Power To The People” John Lennon.
May I answer Ganesh’s questions here. I am from the church mentioned and yes, we pray for all, including Kugan during our masses. We remember him and all the victims of war crimes, poverty and other situation. However, not every one of our prayers were highlighted on blogs. As for this interfaith prayer, a lot of work/coordination has to be put into getting all the people of different faith to come together and the Gaza issue is close to all their hearts, hence we had the rare opportunity of having them with us. May I invite you, Ganesh to join us in our mass so that you can see for yourself that we are not merely doing selective prayers according to the ‘hot trends’? The Herald also serves as our information source because The Herald features all the problems faced by the world. So, if you do not mind, do ask for a copy of The Herald for reading.
(sorry if I sound like a broken loudspeaker but I love my church
)