Comments on: Widow facing eviction dies after deadline expires http://anilnetto.com/religion-and-ethnicity/christianity/anxious-widow-74-facing-eviction-dies-as-deadline-expires/ Let justice flow like a mighty river Fri, 25 May 2012 07:25:47 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: Jerry http://anilnetto.com/religion-and-ethnicity/christianity/anxious-widow-74-facing-eviction-dies-as-deadline-expires/comment-page-2/#comment-26442 Jerry Sun, 05 Jul 2009 12:22:08 +0000 http://anilnetto.com/?p=12360#comment-26442 Greg, Your comments make an utter mockery of the teachings of Jesus and the Apostles. Greg,

Your comments make an utter mockery of the teachings of Jesus and the Apostles.

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]]> By: Sudah http://anilnetto.com/religion-and-ethnicity/christianity/anxious-widow-74-facing-eviction-dies-as-deadline-expires/comment-page-2/#comment-26214 Sudah Thu, 02 Jul 2009 14:58:02 +0000 http://anilnetto.com/?p=12360#comment-26214 Everyone knows the church is rich. RM10,000 will get you nowhere in finding a new home. Especially since they are all retired. How heartless can the Church get. They should be practising what they preach - all that stuff about loving your neighbour and charity. What hypocrites. Everyone knows the church is rich. RM10,000 will get you nowhere in finding a new home. Especially since they are all retired. How heartless can the Church get. They should be practising what they preach – all that stuff about loving your neighbour and charity. What hypocrites.

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]]> By: greg http://anilnetto.com/religion-and-ethnicity/christianity/anxious-widow-74-facing-eviction-dies-as-deadline-expires/comment-page-2/#comment-25550 greg Sun, 21 Jun 2009 09:40:19 +0000 http://anilnetto.com/?p=12360#comment-25550 anne brella perhaps you should go investigate yourself and if your investigation does not serve you, go and take the church to court. I was laughing reading your post with all the questions. Just to inform you, the church existed in Tanah Melayu for the past almost 500 years solidly so perhaps your questions have been answered already. And also the church run on donations even Vatican. I am still laughing haha anne brella perhaps you should go investigate yourself and if your investigation does not serve you, go and take the church to court. I was laughing reading your post with all the questions. Just to inform you, the church existed in Tanah Melayu for the past almost 500 years solidly so perhaps your questions have been answered already. And also the church run on donations even Vatican. I am still laughing haha

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]]> By: Anthony http://anilnetto.com/religion-and-ethnicity/christianity/anxious-widow-74-facing-eviction-dies-as-deadline-expires/comment-page-2/#comment-25118 Anthony Thu, 11 Jun 2009 15:23:31 +0000 http://anilnetto.com/?p=12360#comment-25118 Dear writer, Its wrong to blame the bishop as you know if every Roman catholic wants to occupy the church land then the church will have no land . even the western road cemetery is full. I don't think what the writer knows what is going on there in the Francis Xavier church land.so let the Bishop decide what is right. its better others keep off the church business no outsider intervention. order miltia templi. Dear writer,
Its wrong to blame the bishop as you know if every Roman catholic wants to occupy the church land then the church will have no land . even the western road cemetery is full. I don’t think what the writer knows what is going on there in the Francis Xavier church land.so let the Bishop decide what is right.
its better others keep off the church business no outsider intervention.

order miltia templi.

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]]> By: Lourdes http://anilnetto.com/religion-and-ethnicity/christianity/anxious-widow-74-facing-eviction-dies-as-deadline-expires/comment-page-2/#comment-25106 Lourdes Thu, 11 Jun 2009 08:31:05 +0000 http://anilnetto.com/?p=12360#comment-25106 Y-goreng-me I was under the impression that only the BN Government rob the poor rakyat of their bare necessities. Now the Church authorities mainly the head of the Catholic Church in Penang has jumped into the bandwagon to torment and thumb down the poor. O GOD! Have Mercy! Don't the saying "Charity Begins at Home" hold any water at all even in the Catholic Church? I think it is time for the Head - the Bishop to retire... Y-goreng-me

I was under the impression that only the BN Government rob the poor rakyat of their bare necessities.

Now the Church authorities mainly the head of the Catholic Church in Penang has jumped into the bandwagon to torment and thumb down the poor.

O GOD! Have Mercy!

Don’t the saying “Charity Begins at Home” hold any water at all even in the Catholic Church?

I think it is time for the Head – the Bishop to retire…

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]]> By: Jerry http://anilnetto.com/religion-and-ethnicity/christianity/anxious-widow-74-facing-eviction-dies-as-deadline-expires/comment-page-2/#comment-25058 Jerry Wed, 10 Jun 2009 12:47:08 +0000 http://anilnetto.com/?p=12360#comment-25058 The church, (and some of) the clergy and Bishops are the same as the Pharisees whom Jesus rebuked in the Gospels: Mark 12:40 “They take advantage of widows and rob them of their homes, and then make a show of saying long prayers. Their punishment will be all the worse!”. The church, (and some of) the clergy and Bishops are the same as the Pharisees whom Jesus rebuked in the Gospels:

Mark 12:40

“They take advantage of widows and rob them of their homes, and then make a show of saying long prayers. Their punishment will be all the worse!”.

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]]> By: rakyat http://anilnetto.com/religion-and-ethnicity/christianity/anxious-widow-74-facing-eviction-dies-as-deadline-expires/comment-page-2/#comment-25012 rakyat Tue, 09 Jun 2009 08:04:18 +0000 http://anilnetto.com/?p=12360#comment-25012 Dear reader, 1.One more person also very sick at the village now.Very Soon will expired.So the next blame goes to bishop too.Pls beware the person face alot of suffering from the family memmbers... 2. The families are staying generation by generation.They have thier own properties.No one there are poor peeple.All of them have thier own houses.All the houses are rented to outsider.The reason why they do want to leave the place because the place is very convinient and also very cheap renting. 3. The church did so much for them but they are very ungrateful pepole.Only god can judge them.For ur information the disadvantage: a) alot of drugs exchanging b) every celebration there will be a big party going on infront of the church and also sleeping when they are over drunk and also fighting each other. 4.They fight for the catholic church land but they are going to different mission like serve at the temple,jeohvah witness,worshiping the charm(BOMOH).Do you think they are still have to diserve the land???and also convert to other religion.This land rented for only catholic people. 5. All the golden people pls "LISTEN" dont worried about your shelter.Where is your Houses??Why you all ask your children to rent your own houses??Pls ask them back your property.. THIS IS MY HUMBLE REQUEST Dear reader,

1.One more person also very sick at the village now.Very Soon will expired.So the next blame goes to bishop too.Pls beware the person face alot of suffering from the family memmbers…

2. The families are staying generation by generation.They have thier own properties.No one there are poor peeple.All of them have thier own houses.All the houses are rented to outsider.The reason why they do want to leave the place because the place is very convinient and also very cheap renting.

3. The church did so much for them but they are very ungrateful pepole.Only god can judge them.For ur information the disadvantage:

a) alot of drugs exchanging
b) every celebration there will be a big party going on infront of the church and also sleeping when they are over drunk and also fighting each other.

4.They fight for the catholic church land but they are going to different mission like serve at the temple,jeohvah witness,worshiping the charm(BOMOH).Do you think they are still have to diserve the land???and also convert to other religion.This land rented for only catholic people.

5. All the golden people pls “LISTEN” dont worried about your shelter.Where is your Houses??Why you all ask your children to rent your own houses??Pls ask them back your property..

THIS IS MY HUMBLE REQUEST

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]]> By: mmm http://anilnetto.com/religion-and-ethnicity/christianity/anxious-widow-74-facing-eviction-dies-as-deadline-expires/comment-page-2/#comment-24827 mmm Thu, 04 Jun 2009 20:14:49 +0000 http://anilnetto.com/?p=12360#comment-24827 Annon, it's not a case of the Church against the families. It's certain personalities within it, rather than the Church per se. With Anil's kind indulgence, I'll reproduce a posting I made elsewhere in this site some days ago, which amply illustrates what I mean. This is from the 19.04.09 church bulletin, from The Church of the Immaculate Conception, Pulau Tikus, Penang. Read between the lines for a bigger picture. “Very often we priests hear of things happening in the Church, only after the fact, i.e. when your Bishop decided to sell part of the land in the compound of St. Francis Xavier, it was only after the sale that we heard about it… and we had to take the flak from you, the people. Our Church teaches/preaches transparency but often forgets to practise it… could be partly the fault of us, the priests and you the Laity… we do not question our “superiors” enough, or we try a few times and when we are not listened to, we give up. This is one way in which we encourage injustice/evil. I have been hearing rumours that our Bishops are wanting to sell part of College General lands ‐ is it the Bishops or Propaganda Fidei (The Propagation of Faith), in the Vatican? What are we going to do ‐ especially when the Penang people are trying so desperately to preserve what green remains in Penang and we are faced with the evils of hillside developments. Another rumour is that College General is to be leased out… remember what happened to Wisma Uskop, which was built for you, with much of your money! Look into these rumours, and if true, see what could be done.. Godbless.” The Church then, is an organisation with a layered structural hierarchy. It is run by men. Whether holy or haughty, pious or petty, wise or unwise, driven by love or by ambition, liable to mistakes and full of foibles and follies, or inspired and directed by God... you decide. As the Lord said, by its fruit can you judge the tree. Annon, it’s not a case of the Church against the families. It’s certain personalities within it, rather than the Church per se. With Anil’s kind indulgence, I’ll reproduce a posting I made elsewhere in this site some days ago, which amply illustrates what I mean.

This is from the 19.04.09 church bulletin, from The Church of the Immaculate Conception, Pulau Tikus, Penang. Read between the lines for a bigger picture.

“Very often we priests hear of things happening in the Church, only after the fact, i.e. when your Bishop decided to sell part of the land in the compound of St. Francis Xavier, it was only after the sale that we heard about it… and we had to take the flak from you, the people.

Our Church teaches/preaches transparency but often forgets to practise it… could be partly the fault of us, the priests and you the Laity… we do not question our “superiors” enough, or we try a few times and when we are not listened to, we give up. This is one way in which we encourage
injustice/evil.

I have been hearing rumours that our Bishops are wanting to sell part of College General lands ‐ is it the Bishops or Propaganda Fidei (The Propagation of Faith), in the Vatican?

What are we going to do ‐ especially when the Penang people are trying so desperately to preserve what green remains in Penang and we are faced with the evils of hillside developments. Another rumour is that College General is to be leased out… remember what happened to Wisma Uskop, which was built for you, with much of your money! Look into these rumours, and if true, see what could be done.. Godbless.”

The Church then, is an organisation with a layered structural hierarchy. It is run by men. Whether holy or haughty, pious or petty, wise or unwise, driven by love or by ambition, liable to mistakes and full of foibles and follies, or inspired and directed by God… you decide. As the Lord said, by its fruit can you judge the tree.

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]]> By: Annon http://anilnetto.com/religion-and-ethnicity/christianity/anxious-widow-74-facing-eviction-dies-as-deadline-expires/comment-page-1/#comment-24813 Annon Thu, 04 Jun 2009 16:15:04 +0000 http://anilnetto.com/?p=12360#comment-24813 Before blame on each other .try to find out what is happening behind the scene.”Don’t judge the book by cover”.dont look from one side only.is that all resident don’t have house ???...each of the family have a own house and rented.if this fact not true ask them to proof but its their personal things.but my question is why they wanna to find out the sympathy?.if really they are poor 100% I will support them.they are pretend like don’t have anything .i was survey on this problem since last year.lets come to one of them not able to pay rental for few months to church.but the person able to rental part of his house and get payment.is that fair ??...if you don’t believe survey first is that true or not …I can proof who is doing that.i have lot of proof like this.but my concernt are not to pin point anyone or hurt.just don’t spoil the church name.and don’t simply create a story with out clarified the true.again don’t look from one angle only…….. they it self having lot of problem.one more example…this guy already move out from church house.before this he rented his partion room for RM300 few of ladyboy staying there and pariest priest get know and warned that person.because of that house become spot of ladyboy.other then that the person collect money from hawker are parking the trolley at his compound.but cannot pay less then 100 ringgit rental to church.is that fair??...but people from outside looking one side only.and blame why catholic church doing like this to poor people…but church doing lot to poor people and helping in few ways.example anyone know church giving a education loan to catholic people.???they are giving.in term of payback after get job.and how many of them payback after get job???..if get loan from bank is that we just leave it like that and not payback ????.lot of things we need to know before we blame generally about catholic church .thank you. Before blame on each other .try to find out what is happening behind the scene.”Don’t judge the book by cover”.dont look from one side only.is that all resident don’t have house ???…each of the family have a own house and rented.if this fact not true ask them to proof but its their personal things.but my question is why they wanna to find out the sympathy?.if really they are poor 100% I will support them.they are pretend like don’t have anything .i was survey on this problem since last year.lets come to one of them not able to pay rental for few months to church.but the person able to rental part of his house and get payment.is that fair ??…if you don’t believe survey first is that true or not …I can proof who is doing that.i have lot of proof like this.but my concernt are not to pin point anyone or hurt.just don’t spoil the church name.and don’t simply create a story with out clarified the true.again don’t look from one angle only…….. they it self having lot of problem.one more example…this guy already move out from church house.before this he rented his partion room for RM300 few of ladyboy staying there and pariest priest get know and warned that person.because of that house become spot of ladyboy.other then that the person collect money from hawker are parking the trolley at his compound.but cannot pay less then 100 ringgit rental to church.is that fair??…but people from outside looking one side only.and blame why catholic church doing like this to poor people…but church doing lot to poor people and helping in few ways.example anyone know church giving a education loan to catholic people.???they are giving.in term of payback after get job.and how many of them payback after get job???..if get loan from bank is that we just leave it like that and not payback ????.lot of things we need to know before we blame generally about catholic church .thank you.

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]]> By: lilian http://anilnetto.com/religion-and-ethnicity/christianity/anxious-widow-74-facing-eviction-dies-as-deadline-expires/comment-page-1/#comment-24778 lilian Thu, 04 Jun 2009 01:12:32 +0000 http://anilnetto.com/?p=12360#comment-24778 Tks 'rakyat' for that info. Please do furnish us with more info if you have any. Tks ‘rakyat’ for that info. Please do furnish us with more info if you have any.

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