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		<title>By: kingkong</title>
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		<dc:creator>kingkong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 18:56:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn&#039;t the real meaning of Demo cracy and freedom. People can do want they want to SPEAK UP and bang their chest as long as no violence is incited. Zul is not talking nonsence - you can&#039;t see his real stand - only religion and race forgetting many East Malaysians are bumis and what i sthe point of forming Malaysia to be forced to list to one race and one religion</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t the real meaning of Demo cracy and freedom. People can do want they want to SPEAK UP and bang their chest as long as no violence is incited. Zul is not talking nonsence &#8211; you can&#8217;t see his real stand &#8211; only religion and race forgetting many East Malaysians are bumis and what i sthe point of forming Malaysia to be forced to list to one race and one religion
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		<title>By: K</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 09:50:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this should be submitted for the Joke of The Year contest.

LGE and his clueless exco are reknown for such empty and idiotic ideas that big in promise but tiny in practicality.

Firstly, DAP professes freedom of speech and the right of public assembly. And they had been demanding for these rights and refused BN govt&#039;s offer of closed demos. But here in Penang they want to restrict people from speaking and assembling freely to some far corner.

Secondly, who will dare to use the corner (even if this actually get implemented) when DAP are quick to lodge police reports when people demo against them or (someone) gets smashed by gangsters (after he took part in a demo)...

Recently, DAP has even announce that they will sue the NST for publishing letters questioning the Cheap Minister&#039;s policies.

So, I think DAP should quit fooling us around and just declare a socialist dictatorship in Penang led by ... Lim Guan Eng. Hail the Cheap Minister !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this should be submitted for the Joke of The Year contest.</p>
<p>LGE and his clueless exco are reknown for such empty and idiotic ideas that big in promise but tiny in practicality.</p>
<p>Firstly, DAP professes freedom of speech and the right of public assembly. And they had been demanding for these rights and refused BN govt&#8217;s offer of closed demos. But here in Penang they want to restrict people from speaking and assembling freely to some far corner.</p>
<p>Secondly, who will dare to use the corner (even if this actually get implemented) when DAP are quick to lodge police reports when people demo against them or (someone) gets smashed by gangsters (after he took part in a demo)&#8230;</p>
<p>Recently, DAP has even announce that they will sue the NST for publishing letters questioning the Cheap Minister&#8217;s policies.</p>
<p>So, I think DAP should quit fooling us around and just declare a socialist dictatorship in Penang led by &#8230; Lim Guan Eng. Hail the Cheap Minister !
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		<title>By: SpeakUp</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 18:34:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another wonderful gimmick from the state. Let&#039;s face it, LGE is trying so much nonsense when he can work on more substantial matters not that he is incapable of doing it. Penangites/Malaysians are not ready for such rights. 

Look at the blogs and forums and FB. Cybertrooper la, FB gangs la, usage of foul language by political party supporters on the net ... imagine the same thing at the Speaker&#039;s Corner! Fights will break out.

Then Penang Opposition (BN guys) will use it against LGE and LGE supporters cannot tahan for sure. Then you will have Ng Wei Aik lodging police reports against people or marking them...

Later you will get some crazy cult teaching nonsense or someone as amazing as Zul Nordin talking nonsense....

LGE needs to get real. Get his head out of OPPOSITION MODE and realise he is the CM for a few more years before GE13 ... he is holding Penang in his hands, not some bit of clay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another wonderful gimmick from the state. Let&#8217;s face it, LGE is trying so much nonsense when he can work on more substantial matters not that he is incapable of doing it. Penangites/Malaysians are not ready for such rights. </p>
<p>Look at the blogs and forums and FB. Cybertrooper la, FB gangs la, usage of foul language by political party supporters on the net &#8230; imagine the same thing at the Speaker&#8217;s Corner! Fights will break out.</p>
<p>Then Penang Opposition (BN guys) will use it against LGE and LGE supporters cannot tahan for sure. Then you will have Ng Wei Aik lodging police reports against people or marking them&#8230;</p>
<p>Later you will get some crazy cult teaching nonsense or someone as amazing as Zul Nordin talking nonsense&#8230;.</p>
<p>LGE needs to get real. Get his head out of OPPOSITION MODE and realise he is the CM for a few more years before GE13 &#8230; he is holding Penang in his hands, not some bit of clay.
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		<title>By: Iron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Iron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 13:19:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a gimmick.

Penangites deserve much more than gimmicks.

We need a government which is transparent. Which serves the people. Which is willing to listen to what the people tells them. Which is not going to lord over us. Which doesn&#039;t lie to us.

A &quot;speech corner&quot; is a gimmick that won&#039;t get us anything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a gimmick.</p>
<p>Penangites deserve much more than gimmicks.</p>
<p>We need a government which is transparent. Which serves the people. Which is willing to listen to what the people tells them. Which is not going to lord over us. Which doesn&#8217;t lie to us.</p>
<p>A &#8220;speech corner&#8221; is a gimmick that won&#8217;t get us anything.
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		<title>By: better2mrw</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 12:51:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are spot on KEE. Do also complain, dont do also complain. Where were they last time ( previous government ) Don&#039;t even dare to ... spoilt brat. This present state government has done so much in spite of the economic slowdown and various contraints intentionally imposed by federal government. Give them a chance. It is anytime better than the last 52 years. Don&#039;t you think so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are spot on KEE. Do also complain, dont do also complain. Where were they last time ( previous government ) Don&#8217;t even dare to &#8230; spoilt brat. This present state government has done so much in spite of the economic slowdown and various contraints intentionally imposed by federal government. Give them a chance. It is anytime better than the last 52 years. Don&#8217;t you think so.
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		<title>By: anilnetto</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 11:53:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, it was in a report in the Sun today...</description>
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		<title>By: wira</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 10:24:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In a nutshell, neither MPPP nor the state government is in a position to grant free speech with a speaker&#039;s corner unless that corner is in a private premise.

Internal security is not under the jurisdiction of the state government.

Anyway, YB Chow did not toss the idea of a speaker&#039;s corner. Looks like it&#039;s more your idea, Anil. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a nutshell, neither MPPP nor the state government is in a position to grant free speech with a speaker&#8217;s corner unless that corner is in a private premise.</p>
<p>Internal security is not under the jurisdiction of the state government.</p>
<p>Anyway, YB Chow did not toss the idea of a speaker&#8217;s corner. Looks like it&#8217;s more your idea, Anil. <img src='http://anilnetto.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />
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		<title>By: senibinamalaysia</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 05:08:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agreed the maturity level of Malaysian majority including myself is at doubt... But if i were to comment, i think there are two places that are more suitable for a public&#039;s Speakers Corner, which are opposite the State Legislative Council and at ground floor of KOMTAR... One thing, we don&#039;t have to built new things nor does we have to sacrifice our green space... Opposite the State Legislative Building is a pocket space between the foodcourt and the carpark... On the ground floor at the five road junction beneath Komtar (facing GAMA) is avery nice pocket space that were under-utilised... Public Speakers Corner does not need to have any form of new architectural intervention...

Nevertheless, I believe the police is required to maintain peace... But not the police who are the one giving out the allowance permit to use the space... It must be an independent body made up of government agency, NGOs and some one from the judiciary sector that will liaise to the police for security backup... I think that could be a starting point...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agreed the maturity level of Malaysian majority including myself is at doubt&#8230; But if i were to comment, i think there are two places that are more suitable for a public&#8217;s Speakers Corner, which are opposite the State Legislative Council and at ground floor of KOMTAR&#8230; One thing, we don&#8217;t have to built new things nor does we have to sacrifice our green space&#8230; Opposite the State Legislative Building is a pocket space between the foodcourt and the carpark&#8230; On the ground floor at the five road junction beneath Komtar (facing GAMA) is avery nice pocket space that were under-utilised&#8230; Public Speakers Corner does not need to have any form of new architectural intervention&#8230;</p>
<p>Nevertheless, I believe the police is required to maintain peace&#8230; But not the police who are the one giving out the allowance permit to use the space&#8230; It must be an independent body made up of government agency, NGOs and some one from the judiciary sector that will liaise to the police for security backup&#8230; I think that could be a starting point&#8230;
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		<title>By: SamG</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 04:23:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Step by Step! my fellow blog readers. 1st the location. Next work with the police Head, try and get some guidelines or come to an understanding to prevent police intervention. If this is successful it will also look good for the police and related groups. So, STOP  complaining Dilbert Singh. Any donkey can tell you how it will fail, but it takes a smart person to make it work. So all of you who are complaining - do you want to be a donkey or a smart person??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Step by Step! my fellow blog readers. 1st the location. Next work with the police Head, try and get some guidelines or come to an understanding to prevent police intervention. If this is successful it will also look good for the police and related groups. So, STOP  complaining Dilbert Singh. Any donkey can tell you how it will fail, but it takes a smart person to make it work. So all of you who are complaining &#8211; do you want to be a donkey or a smart person??
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		<title>By: Oh no</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oh no</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 03:59:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So some wise guy wants to build A STAGE (spelled more concrete and more money spent to sell out our &quot;green&quot; spaces)?  

What is the point of a stage????? Is that going to stop the police from charging in and put you in lokap for speaking up?

Sounds like a guise for another procedural hurdle and clever contractor money will make!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So some wise guy wants to build A STAGE (spelled more concrete and more money spent to sell out our &#8220;green&#8221; spaces)?  </p>
<p>What is the point of a stage????? Is that going to stop the police from charging in and put you in lokap for speaking up?</p>
<p>Sounds like a guise for another procedural hurdle and clever contractor money will make!
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