Pave paradise to put up 800 parking bays in Youth Park
Canadian song-writer Joni Mitchell felt compelled to write the song “Big Yellow Taxi” when during a visit to Hawaii she took a taxi to a hotel and peered out of the hotel room window the next morning. She described what she saw to journalist Alan McDougall:
… I threw back the curtains and saw these beautiful green mountains in the distance. Then, I looked down and there was a parking lot as far as the eye could see, and it broke my heart… this blight on paradise. That’s when I sat down and wrote the song.
The line “Paved paradise to put up a parking lot” could well describe what we are doing to our Pearl of the Orient, which is rapidly turning into one big parking lot.
“Don’t it always seem to go, you don’t know what you’ve got till it’s gone…”
Now I have stumbled onto plans to put up 800 parking bays at the Penang Youth Park. 800?! Are they out of their minds? We have such limited recreational areas and parks - and they can think of putting up 800 parking bays? Someone, please tell me it’s all a misunderstanding…
I got this information from an official-sounding website Adun PP Net. This is what it says:
Sementara itu bagi untuk Taman Belia/Taman Perbandaran ianya adalah seluas 167 ekar. Di bawah Rancangan Malaysia Ke Sembilan (RMKe-9), Majlis bercadang untuk membangunkan Fasa 2 Taman Belia/Taman Perbandaran seluas 80 ekar di kawasan taman yang sedia ada. Kementerian Pelancongan Malaysia (KPM) dijangka memperuntukan sebanyak RM4 juta bagi projek Pembangunan Pelancongan Taman Perbandaran Fasa 2 ini. Kemudahan-kemudahan yang akan disediakan adalah seperti berikut:-
(i) Pintu gerbang masuk dan keluar
(ii) Tempat letak kereta [800 petak letak kereta]
(iii) Padang serbaguna [2 buah padang]
(iv) Sebuah bangunan/kiosk informasi
(v) Tapak perkhemahan
(vi) Manaiktaraf infrastruktur iaitu jalan dan laluan pejalan kaki
(vii) Lampu-lampu jalan
(viii) Taman permainan kanak-kanakTempoh pembinaan adalah selama 12 bulan dan kerja-kerja pembinaan akan dijalankan selepas mendapat kebenaran memulakan kerja daripada pihak Kementerian.
Our beaches are being polluted and silted, our green hills and parks are disappearing.
Think also of all the new approach highways and road-widening that we’ll have to do with the second Penang Bridge. Paving paradise, that’s what we are doing… and then we wonder why we are getting hit by flash floods more often.
“Don’t it always seem to go, you don’t know what you’ve got till it’s gone…”
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The sad truth is that even those in charge of our Parks are quite often clueless as to what Parks represent.
I used to take my 18 month old daughter to the Lake Gardens in Kuala Lumpur to experience one of the last slivers of green in the city. We went there I’m like most others for the solitude, the sound of birds chirping, insects and just being as close to nature as one could expect to be in the heart of the city. With every visit I noticed changes - most often additional concrete.
The last straw was just before Hari Raya when we were assaulted by the sound of harsh Radio Deejay chattering incessantly and harsh music (not even something soothing) blaring from loudspeakers. I quickly pushed her stroller to get away from what I though would be one speaker but to my dismay I found that the whole Gardens were very completely covered with them - there was nowhere in the Lake Gardens where one could just have some peace and quite anymore! Since that awful experience we have never set foot in the Lake Gardens again. I am sure the individuals responsible are quite proud of their achievement but I think there are many like me who are equally dismayed by this “improvement”.
Please reply if anyone has any Ideas like maybe a signature campaign to return some serenity to our Lake Gardens.
Hi everyone,
The 800 parking lots to be sited in a single huge parking area would definite not in consonance with the natural setting of the recreation park! It would certainly become an eyesore!
The MPPP, State Govt and other authorities concerned should seriously relook this aspect of 800 parking lots, with utmost consideration that whatever parking space planned does not intrude into the natural setting of the Youth Park. Reduce the scale and make sure that it does not ‘deface’ the recreational park.
are you stupid anil?
way to go bro the song touched my heart, haven’t heard it for years.
thats how the gov. planning unit thinks. read about the floods on one of the hills in penang, with pics to boot too lol, since the gov. is famous for their book of records isn’t this an item to be prouds off?
keep up the good work bro will try7 to go up north in three weeks time to burn a candle.
regards julian
Penang not unlike Singapore, with it’s population highly concentrated in a small area cannot afford to have a high vehicle population that eats into precious land for roads and car parks. The best solution is to go for underground public transport like MRT. The cost is high initially but once the system is in place, normal traffic congestion on the roads will be much reduced. Great savings can be derived from less petrol usage not to mention the reduction in carbon monoxide. If the system is efficient and have good coverage, people will prefer to travel by MRT rather than on the roads with it’s usual gridlock. Such project can be spread over a number of years, starting with the city and spread out to the more populated urbanised areas eventually. Surely, this will make Penang more attractive to visitors who would want to visit the island. Many of the local population would not even want to use their cars if they can go about with an efficient MRT.
A teenage girl went up to a counselor and told her that she felt so out of place when she is with her friends. Whenever they sleep over in a friend’s house, they would all talk about their experienced with guys. All her friends have slept with guys before except her. She is still a virgin. She feels she has been left out and her friends always teased and laughed at her.
The counselor told her to go back and tell her friends that she can always be like them, BUT THEY CAN NEVER BE LIKE HER AGAIN! You can proudly say, “I’m a virgin but you can never ever be one again.” to them.
You can build the parking lots but you can never get back the greens again. Don’t destroy what mother nature’s garden for the sake of progress. “Don’t it always seem to go, you don’t know what you’ve got till it’s gone…”
Uh-oh. Tough call.
I’m a regular at the Youth Park. On normal days, there is no parking problem, even though the car park has only err.. modest capacity. A lot of locals walk or jog to the park.
However, on those days where they hold public occasions at the Youth park, its absolutely chaos.
Depends on where the car park is build, I suppose. If they can do it without disturbing the core area, and blend into the environment, maybe…
Obviously you guys haven’t been to the Park to see the numbers of cars there.
Whilst I would agree on being eyesore, intrusion of the natural setting,.etc, there need to balance convenience of the visitors vs preservation of the park.
I would not hold my breath waiting for the underground public transport, maybe not until the Pakatan becomes the Federal Govt.
In the meantime, if there is to be a car park then, it is our responsibility to see it build with minimum impact to the environment and it’s able to encourage more visitor/users, especially the young people, to the park.
Maybe instead of several open car parks like what is happening now, we can have just one multi storey car park with better security.
They can also incorporate better amenities, proper sports & training facilities.
The other existing open car park demolished and utilized for recreations.
Pave paradise
Eyes can see it is alright
The concrete ground nature gone
As people walking by
Vehicles drive in
Drivers smile
Pave paradise
They come to spoil
Nature scream
Loudly in the wind
Only concerned citizens
Crying out for the environment
Pave paradise
Eyes can see it is alright
Money to be made
The state government forgets
About pledges keep the environment
Pave paradise
The concrete on the ground
Drivers smile
Nature cry
I hosted an Aussie friend in Penang early last year. To this day, the most memorable and hilarious experience for her was hiking up Penang Hill to find gym equipment! She still laughs her head off whenever it comes up in conversation. (We’re best friends, so she’s not demeaning, just finds it very random!) I kinda like that it’s there, but it reflects on our lack of appreciation for natural beauty. The amount of tar in our “Botanic Gardens” is another example. Sad.
I used to cycle to school (rarity in urban students these days, only few of us did in my school). I cycle a lot now, mainly environmental reasons and also ofter quicker than being stuck in traffic. It’s my main/preferred means of transport. Are there any groups who encourage cycling in Penang? It makes sense, especially in context of Youth Park.
1. Penang is small enough that we should be able to get everywhere on a bicycle; only reason/excuse is laziness.
2. Helps with traffic congestion.
3. Reduces pollution, Cost savings on petrol.
4. Assuming people go to Youth Park for recreation/exercise, so wouldn’t cycling there make it an even better experience? Cycling home after a good exercise helps loosen the muscles and I even intentionally take an extra long route back after time at the gym.
I was at the Kebun Bunga Charity Run 2008 recently which started at Youth Park and the route included Botanical Gardens. The place is still good. Whether we need the 800 parking lots, I must say they should build more but whether its 800 or not, its to be determined after proper study. But what is obvious is more lots are needed. Go there Anil at 7.30 am and 5 pm when there are most people, then perhaps you can see the cars parked haphazardly everywhere, even on the playground.
C’mon Anil, lets not be anti-development just for the sake of being anti-development. Lets all be pragmatic. I love the Youth Park and the Botanical garden too but if we need to develop them further in terms of infrastructures for more people to enjoy the facilities, lets do it and do it well.
I also want WiFi and WiMax but it looks like I am not gonna have it because your friends (10 of them) have now come out openly to protest. Am I going to be denied this infrastrutural development because these 10 people feel it will harm the health of their infants?
Lets be practical about it. Leave out the rhetorics and the emotions to the few clowns that now populate Parliament. We have lots of issues in Penang, let us all work together and do whatever we can to assist the state government to overcome them, not throw a spanner everytime a new idea crops up.
How come we all know we need the 2nd Bridge badly, how come these 10 people don’t do a demo and hold up their placards to the press and shout about it?
I note that a RM4 million allocation is needed from the Tourism Ministry in KL for this project. Under the present political scenario this will take some time to realize!
Perhaps they can build the carpark as a multistorey structure on the existing carparks, so that no greenery is further destroyed. And they should then CHARGE parking fees! They might even RECLAIM some greenery sacrificed for the nonpaying existing carparks scattered haphazardly along some of the roads.
With a new state government in Penang we hope that such nonsense will not get implemented. Penang’s beauty is in its greenery and heritage. We do not want to be Themepark Bolehland!
Can the CM please look into this?
A big NO from me. I’d be the first to go against that!!
funny you should mention this today, as I left the Botanic gardens to get my bus home I was puzzling why there are any cars in these recreational areas, at all. How about park and ride areas with shuttle buses?
Life is beautiful without cars.
How many do you think is the right figure?
You drive a car too, and isn’t the current parking situation a source of our daily stress and frustration?
Anil, I used some of your photos of the PP by-election in my blog for a new post concerning the Kuala Terengganu by-election. However, I acknowledged you as my source. Thanks.
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Botanical Gardens is packed even on weekdays. Youth Park is so very packed. People are walking into people; groups of people are doing their exercise all along the roads.
So what does the @#%%^^^^ of a politician think of???
Build 800 car parks of course! Build “ecotourism” project of course!
We dont want car parks, we don’t want PROJECTS! We want our trees, we want our air, we want space for our children!
Who the hell is responsible for this clever idea anyway???
first of all, where is this 800 parking spots gonna be located anil? any idea? where is youth park, if can source out some pictures would be great. As i am sure its gonna take a lot of space, 800 lots k not 50 or 100 lots, n 800 more vehicles in the youth park, pollution will increase and so many other factors, what is happening to penang, i agree with you ANIL.
Taman Belia does need a carpark as the crowd there on weekends in pretty huge. Lots of people take their kids there and there is no where to park at all so people park indescriminately. However, the carpark should be well planned so that it does not spoil the natural surroundings.
I concur with Racheljansz and Mag M.
I go to Youth Park every Saturdays.
A properly planned car park will serve both The Botanical Gardens and the Youth Park.
(Funny “politicians”; when everyone is used to calling it “Youth Park” they must change the name into who knows what!!)
I agree with the need for a carpark. But the devil is in the details, isn’t it?
As things stand, we DO NOT have an efficient public transportation system. In order to go to the Park, almost everyone drives (anyone care to hazard a guess on numbers; minus those who live within walking distance?)
I am not so sure about the rest of the structurs though. The faster Penang develops an efficient oublic transportation system, the faster such an issue would be a thing of the past. Having that one park in the midst of Penang does have its pros and cons.
Why are people talking about the need for car parking?
What’s the use of car parks when the parks are so congested already?
The point is we need more green lungs!
Oh ya, we all love Youth Park, we all love Botanical Gardens, we all love Penang so let’s all vote for more car parks.
What a bunch of stupid morons!!!
Or is it for the love of money in my own pocket more like it!!!
They paved paradise
And put up a parking lot
With a pink hotel, a boutique
And a swinging hot spot
Dont it always seem to go
That you dont know what youve got
Till its gone
They paved paradise
And put up a parking lot
They took all the trees
Put em in a tree museum
And they charged the people
A dollar and a half just to see em
Dont it always seem to go
That you dont know what youve got
Till its gone
They paved paradise
And put up a parking lot
Hey farmer farmer
Put away that d.d.t. now
Give me spots on my apples
But leave me the birds and the bees
Please!
Dont it always seem to go
That you dont know what youve got
Till its gone
They paved paradise
And put up a parking lot
Late last night
I heard the screen door slam
And a big yellow taxi
Took away my old man
Dont it always seem to go
That you dont know what youve got
Till its gone
They paved paradise
And put up a parking lot